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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by stickydust
After reading the last thread I was thinking this exact same thing. I love dogs - we have two - however, children and dogs ARE NOT the same!!
My DD does not lick other children's butts. Plain and simple - dogs are animals and unpredictable at that. No matter how well trained you never know how a dog will react (granted you never know how a child will react but usually a child will never attack). For instance, I have a pug - such a mild mannered good dog - would never hurt a fly. That being said I still don't leave him alone with DD, because he IS a DOG and you never know what he may do. What if several people brought their dogs to an establishment? It can certainly cause some commotion between the dogs.
Anyways, they just aren't the same - people have more tolerance for kids because they are HUMAN - they came from us. I would be really sad when my dog passes but if God Forbid anything happened to my DD - I don't knwo what I would do.
ITA.... I get really insulted when people try to draw comparisons to what it's like to have a child and having a pet. It is NOT the same.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Funny I was just thinking of this. I went to lunch today and there was a kid about 4 or 5 yrs old at the table next to me.
He proceeds to pick his nose and wipe it on his cup...and his mother starts going on and on about "mommy will get the boogies out, blah blah blah".
I picked up my food and went to another table. Seriously, I would rather have seen a dog sitting at that table than that gross little kid. And as for the parent, have some manners. Maybe you are used to your son's nasty habits, but the rest of us aren't. The rest of us eating don't want to hear you talk about your son's boogies.
So where do I stand? Some parents of human children are rude and selfish, just as some parents of "furry" children are. They exist in every bunch.
I have encountered children brought to places they really didn't belong (not legally, but common sense wise), for many reasons, and to me I find that just as frustrating as someone might find a shopper toting their dog in their purse.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
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Ive been in conversations before where I tell someone something my dd did and they then tell me what there dog did...I am always like 
i do that all the time. i dont think there is anything wrong with it - i am not comparing my dog to your child. . .i am just sharing a similar experience. . .i hope that i am not offending anyone when i do that.
Actually, I JUST did this a few moments ago. My coworker's daughter just got over a stomach virus and I was explaining how my dog was throwing up all night and how upsetting it was. She did not seen to mind that I brought it up!
I would.
You would mind because I was sharing a similar experience? It would offend you bc I was talking about a pet that I loved instead of a child? I don't really understand that.
heck, i dont care when i talk about my dog and people bring up their kids 
I have a child and I still bring up my dog sometimes when people talk about their kids!!! There are similarities. I have been up at night with my dog just as I have been up at night with my baby. I do think that there are similarities between a dog and a child. We just have to know where those similarities end and they do end before I stick my dog into a fancy handbag and head for the supermarket.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
i agree that sharing the responsibility with your husband or your family of having a dog is different than a baby, but when you dont HAVE babies, i believe it's the same thing when you're in that state of life. some people choose not to have children but have dogs and they love their dogs as they THINK they would of their children.
i was in no way saying that when I have children I will love my dog more than I love my child, but they will be a very close 2nd. My dogs need me as much as a child will need me. end of story
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
So I guess you guys would think someone was crazy if they wore this? LOL
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by Kerie-is-so-very
I have a child and I still bring up my dog sometimes when people talk about their kids!!! There are similarities. I have been up at night with my dog just as I have been up at night with my baby. I do think that there are similarities between a dog and a child. We just have to know where those similarities end and they do end before I stick my dog into a fancy handbag and head for the supermarket.
I do find many similarities as well. Dogs are helpless, as children are. Dogs solely rely on humans, as babies do. Dogs are innocent in nature, as babies are. Dogs need food, water, love, attention, playtime, interaction, etc as babies do.
I do think they are very similar as well.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
While I can see both sides, I don't think that anyone can say that either side is wrong for how they feel. Some people are very attached to their pets, just like parents are to their children. I love my dog sooo much and we just found out that she has a heart condition and might have a cancerous tumor on her heart. When she was in the hospital, I was worried sick and would be heartbroken if anything happened to her. She has been an integral part of my family for 7 years and got quite a few of us through some hard times. I guess it is hard to explain, but to us, she more than just an animal. She really is one of the family. The vet was laughing yesterday b/c when he was telling us what was wrong with her, we were all there in his office -- my mom, dad, sister, her husband, me and my husband. We all LOVE this dog. Granted, when I have children, I will definitely love them more b/c they are my children, but to say that my love for my dog is less valuable, is unfair to say. While my family comes first, she definitely comes before anyone else I know.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by luckyinlove
While I can see both sides, I don't think that anyone can say that either side is wrong for how they feel. Some people are very attached to their pets, just like parents are to their children. I love my dog sooo much and we just found out that she has a heart condition and might have a cancerous tumor on her heart. When she was in the hospital, I was worried sick and would be heartbroken if anything happened to her. She has been an integral part of my family for 7 years and got quite a few of us through some hard times. I guess it is hard to explain, but to us, she more than just an animal. She really is one of the family. The vet was laughing yesterday b/c when he was telling us what was wrong with her, we were all there in his office -- my mom, dad, sister, her husband, me and my husband. We all LOVE this dog. Granted, when I have children, I will definitely love them more b/c they are my children, but to say that my love for my dog is less valuable, is unfair to say. While my family comes first, she definitely comes before anyone else I know.
Nicely put. I don't see how what you wrote could be hard for anyone to understand.  
And I have been checking the pets board to see if you replied to your thread...so sorry to hear about your doggie's heart condition...
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by luckyinlove
, but to say that my love for my dog is less valuable, is unfair to say. While my family comes first, she definitely comes before anyone else I know.
I did not say that. ever. I specifically said that LOVING something has nothing to do with how society feels about it.
I understand LOVING a pet. I've had pets too. mone of my best friends just spend thousands on chemo for her cat. she LOVES her cat. BUT she doesn't take him to the store with her...she doesn't give the cat carte blanche in the house...that is reserved for her son.
but I would never compare a child going where HUMANS go to a dog going where HUMANS go.
it's just not the same. that is the comparison I took issue with...no matter how gross a child may be to you....it's stlll NOT an animal and therefore is socially accepted.
what if the animal I loved was a Gorilla? what would you think if me and my pet gorilla were walking down the street and picking up bananas at the grocery store?????
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by Ophelia
what if the animal I loved was a Gorilla? what would you think if me and my pet gorilla were walking down the street and picking up bananas at the grocery store?????
Did you EAT the bananas before paying for them?
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Sweet Jesus...this thread is
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
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Posted by Ophelia
what if the animal I loved was a Gorilla? what would you think if me and my pet gorilla were walking down the street and picking up bananas at the grocery store?????
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Did you EAT the bananas before paying for them?
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
I have two dogs that I love and in two weeks I will have two babies under 2.
It is ridiculous to compare animals to children.
dogs can stay home alone and shouldn't be allowed in as many places as children as babysitters aren't always available.
should I take my 15 months old to a fancy white table cloth restaurant- no! But there is no need for a dog- for any reason in a supermarket.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by Goobster
Funny I was just thinking of this. I went to lunch today and there was a kid about 4 or 5 yrs old at the table next to me.
He proceeds to pick his nose and wipe it on his cup...and his mother starts going on and on about "mommy will get the boogies out, blah blah blah".
I picked up my food and went to another table. Seriously, I would rather have seen a dog sitting at that table than that gross little kid. And as for the parent, have some manners. Maybe you are used to your son's nasty habits, but the rest of us aren't. The rest of us eating don't want to hear you talk about your son's boogies.
So where do I stand? Some parents of human children are rude and selfish, just as some parents of "furry" children are. They exist in every bunch.
I have encountered children brought to places they really didn't belong (not legally, but common sense wise), for many reasons, and to me I find that just as frustrating as someone might find a shopper toting their dog in their purse.
I actually hurled a little when I read this. Honestly I still gag over boogies, even if they are DSs.
I was at a diner once & a kid stuffed a fry up his nose, pulled it out with a trail & then ate it. His mother was like, XXX don't do that it is not nice. But she did NOTHING to keep him from doing it a second third or fourth time. I hurled.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by XFINALLYX
As far as people that dress up their dogs for the hell of it, I think they're bored. I don't think they get attention from anyone so they try to give their dogs the attention they want. Or they're just mental. Yes, I do buy my dogs t-shirts for certain occassions cause it would make a cute picture, but I buy functional tshirts and jackets for them since they're short haired dogs and they dog get cold quicker than other fur coats.
A little hypocritical, don't you think?? You 1st say that people who dress their dog up for the hell of it are just bored & want attention, then proceed to say you buy special t-shirts for certain occassions cause it'd make a cute pic.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
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You're stranded on a deserted island. It's you, small child, small dog, nothing else...who do you eat first?
End of discussion...
Sorry, but I would die before I would eat my dogs...there is no way.
I don't have children, I hope to someday. I'm not saying my dogs are exactly like my children, but having my dogs has emotionally saved me during some difficult points in my life. Eating them is out of the question.
yeah...no way I'd EVER eat my dog!!
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
I love all my pets, I'm a huge animal lover. People actually tease me about it.
But, I do not consider them my children. I also find it disturbing when people refer to me as my dog's mommy. I don't have children, but assume there is no comparison between a pet and a child.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
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, but to say that my love for my dog is less valuable, is unfair to say. While my family comes first, she definitely comes before anyone else I know.
I did not say that. ever. I specifically said that LOVING something has nothing to do with how society feels about it.
I understand LOVING a pet. I've had pets too. mone of my best friends just spend thousands on chemo for her cat. she LOVES her cat. BUT she doesn't take him to the store with her...she doesn't give the cat carte blanche in the house...that is reserved for her son.
but I would never compare a child going where HUMANS go to a dog going where HUMANS go.
it's just not the same. that is the comparison I took issue with...no matter how gross a child may be to you....it's stlll NOT an animal and therefore is socially accepted.
what if the animal I loved was a Gorilla? what would you think if me and my pet gorilla were walking down the street and picking up bananas at the grocery store?????
I wouldn't bring her anywhere she shouldn't go. It just seemed that this particular post was directed at people who feel that they love their pets as much as some people love their children. Yes, some people do. There are may people out there who do not have children and treat their pets as if they are their children. If this is what makes them happy, who cares. I don't understand why people are so crazy about what other people feel. I don't judge anyone for their feelings. The issue with bringing animals into stores is a different topic altogether. Of course they shouldn't go into stores for health reasons. However, saying that people who compare their pets to children are strange or wrong for doing this is wrong in my eyes.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
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So I guess you guys would think someone was crazy if they wore this? LOL
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
I'm going to chime in here for a second. We recently lost our puppy - 5 months ago - when my son was 4 months old.
My husband was sick over it for days. He THOUGHT he loved this dog as much as he loved our son. He said she was one of his children. I was slightly appalled when he said this. As much as I loved Molly - she was still - in the end a dog - her death could not compare to ANYTHING happening to our son.
Two weeks later we got another dog that we love. She will never replace Molly - but she has brought that love of a puppy back into our lives.
He now realizes that there is NO COMPARISION between your own child - and a puppy. God forbid anything ever happened to our son - we can't go out a week later and get another. We can't go on without him. We were able to do this after Molly's passing.
So - yes - I love my dog very much - but in no way will she be as important as my son.
I do think that before I had my son - I would have said that I loved my dog like she was my child....but, that was before I had my son.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by luckyinlove
I wouldn't bring her anywhere she shouldn't go. It just seemed that this particular post was directed at people who feel that they love their pets as much as some people love their children. Yes, some people do. There are may people out there who do not have children and treat their pets as if they are their children. If this is what makes them happy, who cares. I don't understand why people are so crazy about what other people feel. I don't judge anyone for their feelings. The issue with bringing animals into stores is a different topic altogether. Of course they shouldn't go into stores for health reasons. However, saying that people who compare their pets to children are strange or wrong for doing this is wrong in my eyes.
you are not reading or interpreting what I am saying correctly...there isn't really much I can do about that except to say AGAIN...that this thread is addressing the comparison between pets and children in the context of socially accepted behaviors.
I haven't the slightest care about what you do with your pets in the confines of your own home. you can call them your children...put them in diapers and bake them birthday cakes until the cows come home.
but to equate them to being like (or even better than) a child in the context of the greater world...and in human situations...is just baffling to me still.
and that is all.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
I hate these threads. Why must it always turn into a competition? And honestly, just because society feels a certain way about pets or children, I don't think that should dictate how I feel. Society gives no rights to farm animals - does that make factory farming morally right? Society also gives little rights to the environment, does that make drilling for oil and destroying animal habitats right?
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
Posted by TheLorax
I hate these threads. Why must it always turn into a competition? And honestly, just because society feels a certain way about pets or children, I don't think that should dictate how I feel. Society gives no rights to farm animals - does that make factory farming morally right? Society also gives little rights to the environment, does that make drilling for oil and destroying animal habitats right?
You are so right, great post!. 
We each feel different things in different circumstances and are entitled to feel what we do.
Bottom line. No one can tell anyone their dog isn't the same as a human if they feel the dog is just as important as a human to them.
Some people prefer dogs/animals to humans and that is their right/preference.
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
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Posted by TheLorax
I hate these threads. Why must it always turn into a competition? And honestly, just because society feels a certain way about pets or children, I don't think that should dictate how I feel. Society gives no rights to farm animals - does that make factory farming morally right? Society also gives little rights to the environment, does that make drilling for oil and destroying animal habitats right?
You are so right, great post!.
We each feel different things in different circumstances and are entitled to feel what we do.
Bottom line. No one can tell anyone their dog isn't the same as a human if they feel the dog is just as important as a human to them.
Some people prefer dogs/animals to humans and that is their right/preference.
I think the OP was trying to understand WHY...
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Re: little dogs vs. small children
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Posted by TheLorax
I hate these threads. Why must it always turn into a competition? And honestly, just because society feels a certain way about pets or children, I don't think that should dictate how I feel. Society gives no rights to farm animals - does that make factory farming morally right? Society also gives little rights to the environment, does that make drilling for oil and destroying animal habitats right?
You are so right, great post!.
We each feel different things in different circumstances and are entitled to feel what we do.
Bottom line. No one can tell anyone their dog isn't the same as a human if they feel the dog is just as important as a human to them.
Some people prefer dogs/animals to humans and that is their right/preference.
I think the OP was trying to understand WHY...
Then the OP would need to accept it at face value when people say they feel that way, not dispute or challenge it.
If you are someone who doesn't feel that way, all the posts in the world and you won't be able to understand. If you are not in someone else's shoes, it is rather hard to understand why someone else feels the way they do.
Here are the facts:
-Some people prefer animals to humans or children
-Some people feel their animals are their children
-Some people can't have children and they treat their animals as their children
-Others have already had their children who are grown ups now, and feel their pets are just the same as their children (I know this, my parents feel that way about their cats who have all passed on)
-Some people treat their animals as they treat their children
And that's that. If others can't understand any of this, then no one can convince you or should try to. To each is own and respect others feelings. So that was Lorich's point and I agree with her.
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