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PearlJamChick
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Re: New boss same job vent
Is there a way for you to just get the shot during your lunch break every other Friday? Wouldn't that solve the whole 'making up the time' issue?
If you answered that, then I apologize. I scrolled through but didn't see an answer to that..
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jellybean78
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New boss same job vent
I'm there with you. I hate micromanaging. I think it brings down morale. With that said I would just tell him you will make the 30 minutes up at lunchtime. Different people have different views. Being that he is new he may not want to come off as a pushover KWIM. He could also be feeling out the group/unsure of protocols etc.
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| Posted 3/22/13 1:21 PM |
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neener1211
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Re: New boss same job vent
Arrive 3 minutes early and stay 3 minutes later each day. That makes up the 30 minutes for the week. Problem solved-he didn't say you had to make it up all in one shot. 
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| Posted 3/22/13 1:27 PM |
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tara73
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Re: New boss same job vent
Posted by stinger
Posted by tara73
Again, from a different perspective:
Since it took him 2 days to respond, it sound like he possibly may have been clarifying policies with HR to see if it is allowed. HR's standard answer is likely to be no, it's against policy etc. because of laws and policies etc.
If you are currently working through lunch? Stop. He says he doesn't WANT you working through lunch, so then don't work through your lunch, take it. Also, aren't meeting requests usually scheduled ahead of time? If you know you have a meeting at a lunch time hour, say 12, then either take lunch before it or after it. Or, ask him for permission to have a standing set time for lunch that you aren't available to do these appointments every other Friday during your lunch.
He IS working with you by allowing you to flex the time. Remember, he doesn't have to allow that at all. It doesn't matter that you work extra, work your lunches etc. If your hours are stated as 8 to 4 or whatever, then him allowing you to flex IS being adaptable and flexible. He's giving an inch, you have to give an inch as well. Again, he could deny your request completely and make you use up your time.
As far as meeting requests I have to go by everyone else's schedule so no the meeting times are not as flexible or determined by me. Also if we have no set lunch time then why can't i take my lunch at 830 in the morning. Just saying.
I never suggested the MEETINGS be flexible, but your LUNCH TIME is!
If a meeting is at 1, take a lunch at 11:30-12:30. Meeting at 11:30? Go after. Why is this such a difficult concept? And if it is problematic that you have constant meetings at 11 that last until 3 and you won't be able to take a lunch, then you need to document that it is a reoccurring problem and bring it to your boss because you aren't getting your lunch hour.
I hate to say it, but YOU are the only one being inflexible. He gave you an option, he didn't have to give you one at all. He could have told you no, could have made you use vacation time, could have made you go the FMLA route etc. YOU are the one complaining about being micromanaged, about him not being flexible and refusing to acknowledge that he actually is trying to work with you on this issue.
If you can do the shot on your lunch, ask your boss if it is a problem if you take your lunch at 2pm every other Friday, and remind him that you would be unavailable for meetings at that time and would have to turn them down because of the appointments.
It took him TWO days to respond AND you work for a large corporation. This tells me there is a very very good chance he discussed the issue with HR. As such, HE may have been ok with it, but wanted to make sure it was an acceptable policy. If HR tells him it's not allowed, what is he to do? Just because your former boss let you or ignored corporate rules doesn't mean this guy will or even should.
I am sure that this comes across as harsh, but really, it's time to suck it up, and like I said before, stop the gossiping and listening to the coworkers/office toxicity. If you want your job, and like your job, then go to work and clean the slate. Give the man a shot, a FAIR shot, keep a positive attitude and start working WITH him not against him. And I don't blame him for being unhappy. It really sounds like from what you said before that your group is pretty much working against him, not being very accepting or cooperative.
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| Posted 3/22/13 2:00 PM |
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stinger
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Re: New boss same job vent
Posted by tara73
Posted by stinger
Posted by tara73
Again, from a different perspective:
Since it took him 2 days to respond, it sound like he possibly may have been clarifying policies with HR to see if it is allowed. HR's standard answer is likely to be no, it's against policy etc. because of laws and policies etc.
If you are currently working through lunch? Stop. He says he doesn't WANT you working through lunch, so then don't work through your lunch, take it. Also, aren't meeting requests usually scheduled ahead of time? If you know you have a meeting at a lunch time hour, say 12, then either take lunch before it or after it. Or, ask him for permission to have a standing set time for lunch that you aren't available to do these appointments every other Friday during your lunch.
He IS working with you by allowing you to flex the time. Remember, he doesn't have to allow that at all. It doesn't matter that you work extra, work your lunches etc. If your hours are stated as 8 to 4 or whatever, then him allowing you to flex IS being adaptable and flexible. He's giving an inch, you have to give an inch as well. Again, he could deny your request completely and make you use up your time.
As far as meeting requests I have to go by everyone else's schedule so no the meeting times are not as flexible or determined by me. Also if we have no set lunch time then why can't i take my lunch at 830 in the morning. Just saying.
I never suggested the MEETINGS be flexible, but your LUNCH TIME is!
If a meeting is at 1, take a lunch at 11:30-12:30. Meeting at 11:30? Go after. Why is this such a difficult concept? And if it is problematic that you have constant meetings at 11 that last until 3 and you won't be able to take a lunch, then you need to document that it is a reoccurring problem and bring it to your boss because you aren't getting your lunch hour.
I hate to say it, but YOU are the only one being inflexible. He gave you an option, he didn't have to give you one at all. He could have told you no, could have made you use vacation time, could have made you go the FMLA route etc. YOU are the one complaining about being micromanaged, about him not being flexible and refusing to acknowledge that he actually is trying to work with you on this issue.
If you can do the shot on your lunch, ask your boss if it is a problem if you take your lunch at 2pm every other Friday, and remind him that you would be unavailable for meetings at that time and would have to turn them down because of the appointments.
It took him TWO days to respond AND you work for a large corporation. This tells me there is a very very good chance he discussed the issue with HR. As such, HE may have been ok with it, but wanted to make sure it was an acceptable policy. If HR tells him it's not allowed, what is he to do? Just because your former boss let you or ignored corporate rules doesn't mean this guy will or even should.
I am sure that this comes across as harsh, but really, it's time to suck it up, and like I said before, stop the gossiping and listening to the coworkers/office toxicity. If you want your job, and like your job, then go to work and clean the slate. Give the man a shot, a FAIR shot, keep a positive attitude and start working WITH him not against him. And I don't blame him for being unhappy. It really sounds like from what you said before that your group is pretty much working against him, not being very accepting or cooperative.
He is not NOT happy with his team he is not Happy with the new organization!! He is gossiping and negative too.
Anyway he ended up talking about another issue with me and we had a frank talk.
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| Posted 3/22/13 2:42 PM |
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Re: New boss same job vent
I think I said this earlier, but getting sucked into gossip and negativity is so toxic.
And honestly, tends to make everything seem 1000% worse then it really is.
We actually had a staff meeting the other day with the VP and at the end of it, all of the issues people were complaining about could also be transferred over to any other company out there IMO.
Annoying clients, feeling you are overworked and underpaid, not having enough hours in the day, thinking that the people at the top don't understand your job/how hard you work, difficulty justifying new staff financially, etc.
What sux even more is that there are a couple new people starting soon and the Head of the Negative Committee is ALREADY going around talking about how the newbies are going to hate the agency and be scared away.
Most people I don't feel even THINK about this, but then when she starts going on and on about it, they then jump on the bandwagon.
It takes a really concious effort, but I would try really hard to make a goal for yourself this week to not get sucked in.
I've read through your whole thread, and understand your frustrations, but IMO, I don't think your boss/company is being all that unreasonable.
I'm not single, but I am a FTWM and most of my son's needs do fall on me because of the nature of DH's business, so I totally get it.
I also have a REALLY hard time believing you can't figure out another time to fit in your healthcare needs.
There's gotta be something more going on because I can't imagine this would get the average person so riled up.
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| Posted 3/22/13 2:53 PM |
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CaseyGirl
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Re: New boss same job vent
I have worked in a place like the OP is talking about and morale was very low. I now work in a place where if a salaried employee came in a half hour late every Friday no one would notice or care because we all have laptops and the time would be made up somehow. And the morale is much better. I think you keep the leash too tight and people start to resent and rebel. Loosen it a little and if they are truly non-exempt salaried employees dedicated to their work it will get done and not abused. Just my 2 cents.
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| Posted 3/22/13 4:29 PM |
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JennP
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Jenn
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Re: New boss same job vent
Posted by ttnkidz
I work for a large company and I would never have an issue with an employee I supervise coming in late once a week. We are all adults and know what we need to do, as long as they are willing to stay late to get there job done, I do not see an issue. They are being paid to complete a job, if they can complete it in less than 40 hours great if it takes more and they still complete it, I have no issue. There are times we are here extremely late and times the workload is less and people can leave earlier. I hate being treated like a child that has no sense of responsibility, totally understand the original OP frustration.
I am a teacher now but this used to be me and I very much agree with the above.
Unfortunately there isn't much you can do but I wanted to say that I see where you are coming from.
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