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MsSissy
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Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
Did anyone read it this morning?
Newsday story
It's long, but worth reading.
It broke my heart reading the story being told by her mother and father.
They tried so hard to help her.
They now want to get a law passed that will allow parents to have control over their children till they are 21 yrs old in situations like this, where they need rehabiliation. But since she was 18, there was nothing more they could do for her. 
I can't even imagine what this family is feeling these days.
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:49 AM |
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
It's so sad when drugs are involved.
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:54 AM |
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
omg. What an awful story. Those poor people
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:54 AM |
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MetsGirl07
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
i read it this morning and it was so sad
my heart goes out to her parents .. i cant imagine
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:55 AM |
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
I am glad they were able to arrest the people that were involved with this. It is so sad for the family of Natalie though.
What ever happened to the guy that had the party? I know they arrested him...but is he still in jail?
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:56 AM |
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DaniJude
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
I'm still confused - this is such a terrible story... but, they wrote that she collapsed in her bedroom three weeks before she died. At that point, I mean, they knew something was wrong? And they knew she was using drugs?? Her mom even said something like you like your boyfriend b/c you and him are always high... My parents would have held me in the house at gunpoint if that is what it took... But, is that the problem? That she is 18 and legally can run away or whatever - is that what they were worried about??
IDK - I feel like they had so many signs - not "this came out of nowhere, this was not the type of kid to use heroin" like they stated in the video. It is a tragedy either way but I just feel like I wish they would have done more - like someone needed to step in for this kid. My parents would have FORCED me on a plane to another state to go to a facility if need be.
 This is awful.
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
Horrible
How do these kids afford these drugs?
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:57 AM |
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Horrible
How do these kids afford these drugs?
that's another one of my questions.
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:58 AM |
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
 How horrible
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:58 AM |
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MetsGirl07
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
Posted by DaniRella
I'm still confused - this is such a terrible story... but, the wrote that she collapsed in her bedroom three weeks before she died. At that point, I mean, they knew something was wrong? And they knew she was using drugs?? Her mom even said something like you like your boyfriend b/c you and him are always high... My parents would have held me in the house at gunpoint if that is what it took... But, is that the problem? That she is 18 and legally can run away or whatever - is that what they were worried about??
IDK - I feel like they had so many signs - not "this came out of nowhere, this was not the type of kid to use heroin" like they stated in the video. It is a tragedy either way but I just feel like I wish they would have done more - like someone needed to step in for this kid. My parents would have FORCED me on a plane to another state to go to a facility of need be.
This is awful.
i see what you are saying...
reading the article it seemed like the parents tried everything they can to help her , but still were too lenient .. they should have maybe tried a little harder to save their child... does that seem harsh to say that??!!
i just feel bad either way.. i couldnt imagine.
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| Posted 7/10/08 8:59 AM |
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It is sad, but the way they described her in the original articles was completely different. They never mentioned drugs. They said she was a singer and a babysitter.
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| Posted 7/10/08 9:03 AM |
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MsSissy
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
Unfortunately at 18 they could NOT force her. They could not make her get on a plane, they could not make her sign herself into rehab. They could have given her an ultimatium and maybe they did. They did mention she started working and coming home by curfew. They felt it was a turning point.
I don't know, I'm sure there is even more to the story they didn't share. The ex-boyfriend was under investigation for a long time and was just arrested. Maybe the aren't telling the whole story right now.
It's so sad. I just hope they can get the law passed. It certainly couldn't hurt to have a parent in control of the situation till at LEAST drinking age!
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Posted by MetsGirl07
i see what you are saying...
reading the article it seemed like the parents tried everything they can to help her , but still were too lenient .. they should have maybe tried a little harder to save their child... does that seem harsh to say that??!!
i just feel bad either way.. i couldnt imagine.
yes, this is what i'm trying to say - i mean, the father asked her that night where she was going and she said, flat out, to a party... and she went right back to school after that first overdose and said it was alcohol poisoning - there would have been NO going back to school for me, no resuming life like everything was fine and normal... and my mom would have, and i hate to say this, but she would have BEAT my asss in if i ever even THOUGHT of doing something like that. 18 or not 18 - it doesn't matter and at 18 i wouldn't have had anywhere to go and i would have done everything they said. cell phone they found? I wouldn't have even had one - car? i would not have had one. so, yeah i think they let a lot of things go - that breaking point three weeks before she died should have been what saved her. that was their sign, their big red flag.
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
while it's true that b/c she was 18 they could not force her... i had this discussion with my mom last night and she said the last thing she would do was throw up her hands and give up!! not saying that's what this girl's parents did... but like Danielle said, my parents would have held me in my room at gunpoint if that's what it took!!
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DaniJude
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
Posted by Mssissy
Unfortunately at 18 they could NOT force her. They could not make her get on a plane, they could not make her sign herself into rehab. They could have given her an ultimatium and maybe they did. They did mention she started working and coming home by curfew. They felt it was a turning point.
I don't know, I'm sure there is even more to the story they didn't share. The ex-boyfriend was under investigation for a long time and was just arrested. Maybe the aren't telling the whole story right now.
It's so sad. I just hope they can get the law passed. It certainly couldn't hurt to have a parent in control of the situation till at LEAST drinking age!
i see what you are saying and everyone is going to feel a little differently about this but when i was 18 - with my parents - it made no damn difference from when i was 17. maybe that is their way of rationalizing this? i don't know - it doesn't matter at this point because she is gone, unfortunately. but for me - 18 would not have mattered. everyone is different.
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
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Posted by MetsGirl07
i see what you are saying...
reading the article it seemed like the parents tried everything they can to help her , but still were too lenient .. they should have maybe tried a little harder to save their child... does that seem harsh to say that??!!
i just feel bad either way.. i couldnt imagine.
yes, this is what i'm trying to say - i mean, the father asked her that night where she was going and she said, flat out, to a party... and she went right back to school after that first overdose and said it was alcohol poisoning - there would have been NO going back to school for me, no resuming life like everything was fine and normal... and my mom would have, and i hate to say this, but she would have BEAT my asss in if i ever even THOUGHT of doing something like that. 18 or not 18 - it doesn't matter and at 18 i wouldn't have had anywhere to go and i would have done everything they said. cell phone they found? I wouldn't have even had one - car? i would not have had one. so, yeah i think they let a lot of things go - that breaking point three weeks before she died should have been what saved her. that was their sign, their big red flag.
yea i totally agree with you!!
well said!!
i just wish the parents were more up her @ss then they were.
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Dani
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
this is so sad. i know it is easy to say we what we all do as parents, but it does seem as thought they did what they thought would work. fighting with her to stay home, locking her in her room, who knows if that would have worked..
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MsSissy
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Posted by DaniRella
i see what you are saying and everyone is going to feel a little differently about this but when i was 18 - with my parents - it made no damn difference from when i was 17. maybe that is their way of rationalizing this? i don't know - it doesn't matter at this point because she is gone, unfortunately. but for me - 18 would not have mattered. everyone is different.
Believe me I know what you're saying. I know if it was my daughter I would do whatever it takes. I'm also saying this without any experience of dealing with a drug user. I'm sure it's completely different territory.
And like you mentioned, regardless, it's too late now.
I just hope this story helps another mother and father or better yet, helps another kid from this same ending.
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| Posted 7/10/08 9:22 AM |
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
Posted by DaniRella
IDK - I feel like they had so many signs - not "this came out of nowhere, this was not the type of kid to use heroin" like they stated in the video. It is a tragedy either way but I just feel like I wish they would have done more - like someone needed to step in for this kid. My parents would have FORCED me on a plane to another state to go to a facility if need be.
This is awful.
honestly, I think that is unfair to say. Parents do the best they can and kids still get wrapped up in stuff. What a tragedy.
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It is sad, but the way they described her in the original articles was completely different. They never mentioned drugs. They said she was a singer and a babysitter.
Yes when this story first broke they made it out to be like she had never done drugs, and was a good student on her way to college etc...And if you read the first story printed it was treated like a homicide not an overdose.
I read the entire article last night, and although i understand that she was 18 and they couldnt help her, They knew she was on drugs, they should of done more, she almost died 3 weeks ago, why wasnt she in a program.
This girl lives about 5 blocks from my house, so its very scary knowing that kids in my area are doing heroin.
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| Posted 7/10/08 9:26 AM |
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kms717
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
It's a scary world that we live in. It concerns me that this could happen anywhere.
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| Posted 7/10/08 9:33 AM |
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
iF she is 15 or 18 if she wanted to get out of the house she would when her parents went to bed she would sneak out... granted her parents shouldnt have let her go they should have taken her car, her phone, but it would still be easy for her to sneak out. I think it is easy to blame the parents, but my parents were super super strict and I still found ways to do things if I had a curfew at 11:00pm I would do things before.
Please if her parents locked her in her room, locked the windows or did something you know they would be the ones getting in trouble, she probably would have called the cops on them.
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| Posted 7/10/08 9:38 AM |
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Re: Newsday articile on the Seaford girl
I think this is so sad, but I also think back to when this first happened and a poster said that she was pretty sure Nicole had died of an overdose and the parents knew because she had OD'd a few weeks ago.
I know that you can't know everything unless you've walked in someone's shoes, but I have to agree that it seems that parents are just too lenient in general nowadays.
When I was growing up, there were no "extras" unless I worked and paid for it myself. Today, kids are given cell phones at 8 or 9 years old. There is no sense of responsibility. Just the fact that her curfew was 2:30 a.m. bothers me...when I was living at home I had to be home at midnight or 1 a.m. And I dabbled with drugs, nothing serious - mostly because my mother drilled the dangers into my head.
I just think people today find it easier to blame someone or something else...in this case the laws and/or her boyfriend.
Maybe we should be held accountable for our own actions. Maybe they should have made her stay home after ODing, maybe they should have taken away her car, phone, myspace, etc. after they saw she had problems. Maybe they should have seen the difference in her actions at 17 when she was more under their control.
The reality is this girl JUST turned 18...it's not like she was almost 19.
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