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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by ChilisWife

Whether he can do this or not, I think it is still symbolic in that it shows that it is time to move on and people should start thinking for themselves instead of blindly following random rules that change daily. Regardless of what schools actually do, I take it as a good sign that people are ready to start living again.



What? Remember when they tried the same thing last Spring? Nothing happened. I think 1-2 districts took them off for a day and then right back on.

And sorry to say, if you think there is a teacher/sub shortage now, see what’ll happen when you take away masks.

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by Katareen

Posted by ChilisWife

Whether he can do this or not, I think it is still symbolic in that it shows that it is time to move on and people should start thinking for themselves instead of blindly following random rules that change daily. Regardless of what schools actually do, I take it as a good sign that people are ready to start living again.



What? Remember when they tried the same thing last Spring? Nothing happened. I think 1-2 districts took them off for a day and then right back on.

And sorry to say, if you think there is a teacher/sub shortage now, see what’ll happen when you take away masks.



Down south there has been no issues so why do you think it would be worse?

Posted 1/7/22 6:56 AM
 

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No masks required in schools in Nassau County

There is too much too quote, but I respectfully disagree that the constant threat of remote isn’t a big deal.

At the end of the day, most of us on these boards will still feed our kids and keep our heat on. That isn’t the case for many, many children. For some kids, being remote means being left alone. It means their parents quit their jobs and can’t pay the bills. The only food some kids get is school breakfast and lunch. If they aren’t in school, they go hungry. Can you imagine being a little kid living in constant fear that you’ll have nothing to eat because school might close?

Child abuse, mental health issues and suicides have skyrocketed in children. Just the other day, the NYT did damning piece on the horrors of the pandemic on children and it’s primarily the direct result of schools being closed.

It’s a crisis, plain and simple and no one seems to have the capacity, or, more importantly, the interest, in doing anything to fix it.

Posted 1/7/22 6:59 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by LuckyStar

There is too much too quote, but I respectfully disagree that the constant threat of remote isn’t a big deal.

At the end of the day, most of us on these boards will still feed our kids and keep our heat on. That isn’t the case for many, many children. For some kids, being remote means being left alone. It means their parents quit their jobs and can’t pay the bills. The only food some kids get is school breakfast and lunch. If they aren’t in school, they go hungry. Can you imagine being a little kid living in constant fear that you’ll have nothing to eat because school might close?

Child abuse, mental health issues and suicides have skyrocketed in children. Just the other day, the NYT did damning piece on the horrors of the pandemic on children and it’s primarily the direct result of schools being closed.

It’s a crisis, plain and simple and no one seems to have the capacity, or, more importantly, the interest, in doing anything to fix it.



That's because of one word.....privilege.
It's very easy to say things like well It's not the end of the world, stop complaining, etc when like you said, you are able to continue to pay your bills, feed your family and keep your child safe.
I don't think many think beyond their little bubble though.

Posted 1/7/22 7:50 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by LuckyStar

There is too much too quote, but I respectfully disagree that the constant threat of remote isn’t a big deal.

At the end of the day, most of us on these boards will still feed our kids and keep our heat on. That isn’t the case for many, many children. For some kids, being remote means being left alone. It means their parents quit their jobs and can’t pay the bills. The only food some kids get is school breakfast and lunch. If they aren’t in school, they go hungry. Can you imagine being a little kid living in constant fear that you’ll have nothing to eat because school might close?

Child abuse, mental health issues and suicides have skyrocketed in children. Just the other day, the NYT did damning piece on the horrors of the pandemic on children and it’s primarily the direct result of schools being closed.

It’s a crisis, plain and simple and no one seems to have the capacity, or, more importantly, the interest, in doing anything to fix it.



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No masks required in schools in Nassau County

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.

Posted 1/7/22 9:06 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by LuckyStar

There is too much too quote, but I respectfully disagree that the constant threat of remote isn’t a big deal.

At the end of the day, most of us on these boards will still feed our kids and keep our heat on. That isn’t the case for many, many children. For some kids, being remote means being left alone. It means their parents quit their jobs and can’t pay the bills. The only food some kids get is school breakfast and lunch. If they aren’t in school, they go hungry. Can you imagine being a little kid living in constant fear that you’ll have nothing to eat because school might close?

Child abuse, mental health issues and suicides have skyrocketed in children. Just the other day, the NYT did damning piece on the horrors of the pandemic on children and it’s primarily the direct result of schools being closed.

It’s a crisis, plain and simple and no one seems to have the capacity, or, more importantly, the interest, in doing anything to fix it.



I agree with you.

Last year, my third grader's teachers asked what was for lunch and one kid answered pancakes and garlic knots. They were like wow, what a combo and he's like pancakes are the only thing I can make myself.

He wasn't home all alone but he was in the care of his high school aged brother who was also doing remote learning. But both parents worked outside of the home.

I feel bad for the students of NYC - there are lawmakers challenging Eric Adams' decision to open schools. These kids have missed so much in person learning.

Posted 1/7/22 9:09 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



Chicago is a good example
And there was an article today that my husband read me- not sure where he saw it- that some NYC lawmakers are urging the mayor to have the schools in NYC go remote (he's against it)

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Posted 1/7/22 9:12 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



Chicago is a good example
And there was an article today that my husband read me- not sure where he saw it- that some NYC Union folks are urging the mayor to have the schools in NYC go remote (he's against it)



It's politiicans too - I just saw it in the Post - they are urging Adams to send schools remote for 2 weeks so that they can test and vaccinate to slow the spread.

Posted 1/7/22 9:14 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



Chicago is a good example
And there was an article today that my husband read me- not sure where he saw it- that some NYC Union folks are urging the mayor to have the schools in NYC go remote (he's against it)



It's politiicans too - I just saw it in the Post - they are urging Adams to send schools remote for 2 weeks so that they can test and vaccinate to slow the spread.




Yes that is what I saw. Listen if parents haven't vaccinated their kids yet it means they don't want to.
I doubt anyone is like- oh thank god school is remote for 2 weeks, i just could NOT find the time to get that vaccine!! Chat Icon
And we all know the vaccine doesn't stop the spread so that argument is up in smoke.

Posted 1/7/22 9:18 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



It is absolutely happening. There are large districts in lower westchester county that are remote for 2-4 weeks. That’s a long time for a family in a subpar living situation.

https://westchester.news12.com/amp/yonkers-public-schools-goes-remote-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mount-vernon-schools-to-go-remote-for-4-weeks-district-says/3461492/?amp

Posted 1/7/22 9:21 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



It is absolutely happening. There are large districts in lower westchester county that are remote for 2-4 weeks. That’s a long time for a family in a subpar living situation.

https://westchester.news12.com/amp/yonkers-public-schools-goes-remote-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mount-vernon-schools-to-go-remote-for-4-weeks-district-says/3461492/?amp



Yes - it's insane.

Also LuckyStar I think you are in the same boat but my kids haven't been consistently in school since Sept 2020 - they didn't go back 5 days until April 2021. Over a year after they were sent home. For more than half the year they were 2 days or full remote...

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Posted 1/7/22 9:31 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



It is absolutely happening. There are large districts in lower westchester county that are remote for 2-4 weeks. That’s a long time for a family in a subpar living situation.

https://westchester.news12.com/amp/yonkers-public-schools-goes-remote-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mount-vernon-schools-to-go-remote-for-4-weeks-district-says/3461492/?amp



Yes - it's insane.

Also LuckyStar I think you are in the same boat but my kids haven't been consistently in school since Sept 2020 - they didn't go back 5 days until April 2021. Over a year after they were sent home.



Correct. We were also hybrid until April 2021, with 2 hours of in person in the morning and the rest of the day remote. My district doesn’t offer busing, so any kids whose parents weren’t available to take them back and forth in the middle of the day had no choice but to do full remote.

Posted 1/7/22 9:43 AM
 

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First of all, I think a lot of the teachers who couldn’t find jobs probably have expired licenses so unless the state did something to reinstate their licenses, they can’t be hired.



Yes, that's what I mean. Do whatever they need to to reinstate expired licenses and get teachers in the classroom.

Posted 1/7/22 9:56 AM
 

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No masks required in schools in Nassau County

I’m a teacher and a mom and I pray every day that neither of us need to go remote. My son and students need to be in school. Luckily both of our districts are doing everything they can to keep us in person. Like I said, admin and secretaries are filling in gaps when they can’t find subs.

Many people who wanted to be teachers but never found jobs probably have different jobs now. I know a few people in that boat and they’re not going to quit their current job to become a per diem sub - it would literally make no sense.. It’s not like the district is filling full time positions.

Posted 1/7/22 10:03 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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I’m a teacher and a mom and I pray every day that neither of us need to go remote. My son and students need to be in school. Luckily both of our districts are doing everything they can to keep us in person. Like I said, admin and secretaries are filling in gaps when they can’t find subs.

Many people who wanted to be teachers but never found jobs probably have different jobs now. I know a few people in that boat and they’re not going to quit their current job to become a per diem sub - it would literally make no sense.. It’s not like the district is filling full time positions.



That’s great that they’re filling in. They should be.

I don’t think anyone expects someone to quit their job to be a sub. But I would think that there are likely some former teachers out there who would take advantage of an easy way to reinstate their license. Or students who would gladly graduate early and get themselves a paying job.

My point is, districts can’t keep saying “sorry, too bad” and throw their hands up. They need to find ways to stay open. My districts superintendent is paid half a million dollars a year. I feel like that kind of compensation is enough to expect him to do his job, which I believe involves running a functional school system.

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Posted 1/7/22 10:25 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.

Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.

But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.

ETA - NM I read LS's post

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Posted 1/7/22 10:46 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



It is absolutely happening. There are large districts in lower westchester county that are remote for 2-4 weeks. That’s a long time for a family in a subpar living situation.

https://westchester.news12.com/amp/yonkers-public-schools-goes-remote-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mount-vernon-schools-to-go-remote-for-4-weeks-district-says/3461492/?amp



Ok, didn't realize. I need to read those when I have more time. That sucks.

Posted 1/7/22 10:51 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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I’m a teacher and a mom and I pray every day that neither of us need to go remote. My son and students need to be in school. Luckily both of our districts are doing everything they can to keep us in person. Like I said, admin and secretaries are filling in gaps when they can’t find subs.

Many people who wanted to be teachers but never found jobs probably have different jobs now. I know a few people in that boat and they’re not going to quit their current job to become a per diem sub - it would literally make no sense.. It’s not like the district is filling full time positions.



That’s great that they’re filling in. They should be.

I don’t think anyone expects someone to quit their job to be a sub. But I would think that there are likely some former teachers out there who would take advantage of an easy way to reinstate their license. Or students who would gladly graduate early and get themselves a paying job.

My point is, districts can’t keep saying “sorry, too bad” and throw their hands up. They need to find ways to stay open. My districts superintendent is paid half a million dollars a year. I feel like that kind of compensation is enough to expect him to do his job, which I believe involves running a functional school system.



All education programs that I took were at night and I subbed during the day. I don’t think allowing people to graduate early will cause a massive influx of subs to be available. I also think a lot of people who may like to reinstate their licenses are stay at home moms now which makes it difficult for them to reenter the workforce with small children due to childcare. And honestly you won’t get enough money being a sub to make it worthwhile.

Posted 1/7/22 11:03 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



It is absolutely happening. There are large districts in lower westchester county that are remote for 2-4 weeks. That’s a long time for a family in a subpar living situation.

https://westchester.news12.com/amp/yonkers-public-schools-goes-remote-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mount-vernon-schools-to-go-remote-for-4-weeks-district-says/3461492/?amp



Ok, didn't realize. I need to read those when I have more time. That sucks.



The Mount Vernon blurb is totally misleading. They are saying they will be remote for four weeks but they are counting from 12/22.Chat Icon So that's clickbait BS unless they don't get a holiday break or something which I highly doubt.

BS notwithstanding, MV is remote until MLK and I don't blame people there for being pissed off and asking questions. That's a long time and I'm not sure why they would think they need that for that long unless they have a shit ton of staff in the hospital. I certainly hope that's not true.

For further context, districts do provide breakfast and lunch when they are remote. I realize that requires parents pick it up which they might not do. But the meals are offered.

The accusations of my privilege getting in the way are nonsense. I could flip that around and accuse people of privilege because they haven't had to watch someone die from Covid. But that's not productive.

I NEVER said this was easy or ideal. I agree that the MV situation sucks and deserves questioning at minimum but if this is limited to one godforsaken week a year for the next couple of years then I stand by the fact that it's not the end of the world.

Before Covid DS had the flu. His symptoms were mild and quickly vanquished with Tamiflu but he was lethargic and we ended up keeping him home a week total. Most of his class was out too. Any caregiver has that very same threat of missing a week of work even WITHOUT a pandemic. It totally sucks and I am grateful I was able to switch off with DH when that happened but we have big systemic issues that most (not all but most) people railing against things like masks and such never seem to want to fix.

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Posted 1/7/22 11:18 AM
 

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The accusations of my privilege getting in the way are nonsense. I could flip that around and accuse people of privilege because they haven't had to watch someone die from Covid. But that's not productive.

This is a ridiculous statement and analogy. You really need to look up the definition of privilege, maybe even white privileged, and check it at the door. That is an insult and not considered privileged at all. Chat Icon

Posted 1/7/22 11:54 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Naturalmama

I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.



It is absolutely happening. There are large districts in lower westchester county that are remote for 2-4 weeks. That’s a long time for a family in a subpar living situation.

https://westchester.news12.com/amp/yonkers-public-schools-goes-remote-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/mount-vernon-schools-to-go-remote-for-4-weeks-district-says/3461492/?amp



Yes - it's insane.

Also LuckyStar I think you are in the same boat but my kids haven't been consistently in school since Sept 2020 - they didn't go back 5 days until April 2021. Over a year after they were sent home. For more than half the year they were 2 days or full remote...



Exactly, I am going through the same thing.

Saying to stop complaining kids are in school just shows people don’t know wtf they are talking about. Their kid is probably in school or if their kid is remote I am sure they are thriving. Its nots a big deal to them, so we shouldn’t complain about it.

Posted 1/7/22 11:58 AM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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The accusations of my privilege getting in the way are nonsense. I could flip that around and accuse people of privilege because they haven't had to watch someone die from Covid. But that's not productive.

This is a ridiculous statement and analogy. You really need to look up the definition of privilege, maybe even white privileged, and check it at the door. That is an insult and not considered privileged at all. Chat Icon



I’m surprised she doesn’t see it considering, she comes across as very progressive and liberal in this forum. And it’s so funny to me when people say...”I could have said that” but they still say it. Chat Icon

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Posted 1/7/22 12:03 PM
 

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The accusations of my privilege getting in the way are nonsense. I could flip that around and accuse people of privilege because they haven't had to watch someone die from Covid. But that's not productive.

This is a ridiculous statement and analogy. You really need to look up the definition of privilege, maybe even white privileged, and check it at the door. That is an insult and not considered privileged at all. Chat Icon



I’m surprised she doesn’t see it considering, she comes across as very progressive and liberal in this forum. And it’s so funny to me when people say...”I could have said that” but they still say it. Chat Icon



That BS had my jaw on the floor.

Posted 1/7/22 12:06 PM
 

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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County

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Posted by PitterPatter11

I’m a teacher and a mom and I pray every day that neither of us need to go remote. My son and students need to be in school. Luckily both of our districts are doing everything they can to keep us in person. Like I said, admin and secretaries are filling in gaps when they can’t find subs.

Many people who wanted to be teachers but never found jobs probably have different jobs now. I know a few people in that boat and they’re not going to quit their current job to become a per diem sub - it would literally make no sense.. It’s not like the district is filling full time positions.



That’s great that they’re filling in. They should be.

I don’t think anyone expects someone to quit their job to be a sub. But I would think that there are likely some former teachers out there who would take advantage of an easy way to reinstate their license. Or students who would gladly graduate early and get themselves a paying job.

My point is, districts can’t keep saying “sorry, too bad” and throw their hands up. They need to find ways to stay open. My districts superintendent is paid half a million dollars a year. I feel like that kind of compensation is enough to expect him to do his job, which I believe involves running a functional school system.



100% this. These people are paid well enough to come up with solutions. Sure, many teachers with expired licenses may have found other careers and wouldn't return. But I'm sure some aren't happy with their current situation and would jump at the chance to be back in the classroom. How would they know unless they try something?

And the fact that these people couldn't find a job beyond subbing contracts is part of the whole problem to start with. The system as a whole is problematic. In NYC there have been teachers out on 20 year childcare leave with a guaranteed spot when they return, but new teachers who couldn't find a full time job beyond subbing that had to let their license expire and find other jobs. But it's easier to sit back and say there's no one to work.

And the schools giving meals during remote is nice and all, but who is able to go pick them up? How much of that food was wasted and didn't go to the students as intended?

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