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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
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The accusations of my privilege getting in the way are nonsense. I could flip that around and accuse people of privilege because they haven't had to watch someone die from Covid. But that's not productive.
This is a ridiculous statement and analogy. You really need to look up the definition of privilege, maybe even white privileged, and check it at the door. That is an insult and not considered privileged at all. 
I’m surprised she doesn’t see it considering, she comes across as very progressive and liberal in this forum. And it’s so funny to me when people say...”I could have said that” but they still say it. 
That BS had my jaw on the floor.
I have stated repeatedly that 99.9% of people, me included, believe that children should be in school which is why it's clear that at this point you are just choosing to read what you want to read in my words anyway. But at this point children HAVE NOT been out of school long term. That's why the panic over a long term closure does not make sense to me.
If there are people advocating for some type of long term remote situation because of Covid, then yes, I would absolutely agree that they need to check their privilege. But that is not what I am saying I think should happen, not matter how much you might like to twist my words.
Yes, a short term closure like this week is annoying, but if it stays here, no, it is not the end of the world. And if it is, that indicates much bigger issues because on any given week someone's child could be out sick and they would need coverage anyway.
The MV situation - I don't know WTF that is about but again, those families have every right to demand answers.
This is my last post on the matter because neither of you, particularly you Sash, are capable of a productive conversation. (Which was part of my original point. Everything is laced with combativeness and sarcasm. It's not the own you think it is. When people do that, they just look foolish to most of us.)
So you get the last word. Knock yourselves out.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
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I’m a teacher and a mom and I pray every day that neither of us need to go remote. My son and students need to be in school. Luckily both of our districts are doing everything they can to keep us in person. Like I said, admin and secretaries are filling in gaps when they can’t find subs.
Many people who wanted to be teachers but never found jobs probably have different jobs now. I know a few people in that boat and they’re not going to quit their current job to become a per diem sub - it would literally make no sense.. It’s not like the district is filling full time positions.
That’s great that they’re filling in. They should be.
I don’t think anyone expects someone to quit their job to be a sub. But I would think that there are likely some former teachers out there who would take advantage of an easy way to reinstate their license. Or students who would gladly graduate early and get themselves a paying job.
My point is, districts can’t keep saying “sorry, too bad” and throw their hands up. They need to find ways to stay open. My districts superintendent is paid half a million dollars a year. I feel like that kind of compensation is enough to expect him to do his job, which I believe involves running a functional school system.
100% this. These people are paid well enough to come up with solutions. Sure, many teachers with expired licenses may have found other careers and wouldn't return. But I'm sure some aren't happy with their current situation and would jump at the chance to be back in the classroom. How would they know unless they try something?
And the fact that these people couldn't find a job beyond subbing contracts is part of the whole problem to start with. The system as a whole is problematic. In NYC there have been teachers out on 20 year childcare leave with a guaranteed spot when they return, but new teachers who couldn't find a full time job beyond subbing that had to let their license expire and find other jobs. But it's easier to sit back and say there's no one to work.
And the schools giving meals during remote is nice and all, but who is able to go pick them up? How much of that food was wasted and didn't go to the students as intended?
ITA that the system is problematic.
It couldn't hurt for school districts with excessed teachers on their list to send out letters seeing who would be interested in coming back on a temporary basis as a full time, contract teacher - almost like a leave replacement - outside of their subject area in a "coverage" capacity.
I definitely agree that it's time to think creatively - as humorous as the idea of our government bureaucracy doing that is.
My main wonder about that is if the pool of who might be interested is too small to make this worth it. But my view is probably colored by my own situation because depending on how far back they went I could be one of those people. I was a second career teacher who got in at the worst time ever and after some local leave replacements I gave up and went to the city. I don't love the commute but I absolutely love my school and am now out of the classroom in an instructional leadership position and quite happy. If I got a call from an old LI district to come back and teach now with everything going on I would laugh them off the phone. For a long time teaching on LI was almost like a closed system and people have moved on. But that's just my opinion. Maybe someone on here will chime in that they've been discontinued but would still love a local teaching job lol.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by JennP
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Sash
The accusations of my privilege getting in the way are nonsense. I could flip that around and accuse people of privilege because they haven't had to watch someone die from Covid. But that's not productive.
This is a ridiculous statement and analogy. You really need to look up the definition of privilege, maybe even white privileged, and check it at the door. That is an insult and not considered privileged at all.
I’m surprised she doesn’t see it considering, she comes across as very progressive and liberal in this forum. And it’s so funny to me when people say...”I could have said that” but they still say it.
That BS had my jaw on the floor.
I have stated repeatedly that 99.9% of people, me included, believe that children should be in school which is why it's clear that at this point you are just choosing to read what you want to read in my words anyway. But at this point children HAVE NOT been out of school long term. That's why the panic over a long term closure does not make sense to me.
If there are people advocating for some type of long term remote situation because of Covid, then yes, I would absolutely agree that they need to check their privilege. But that is not what I am saying I think should happen, not matter how much you might like to twist my words.
Yes, a short term closure like this week is annoying, but if it stays here, no, it is not the end of the world. And if it is, that indicates much bigger issues because on any given week someone's child could be out sick and they would need coverage anyway.
The MV situation - I don't know WTF that is about but again, those families have every right to demand answers.
This is my last post on the matter because neither of you, particularly you Sash, are capable of a productive conversation. (Which was part of my original point. Everything is laced with combativeness and sarcasm. It's not the own you think it is. When people do that, they just look foolish to most of us.)
So you get the last word. Knock yourselves out.
One week of closures here and there is not just annoying it actually detrimental to my sons education. So maybe stop commenting on things you don’t know anything about. Stop making generalizations and assumptions. Stop showing your damn privilege.
I am very capable of having a conversation. People like you are incapable of being wrong or admitting when they are wrong. You never make mistakes or speak out of term. You are too closed minded to see the other side of anything. I’m opened minded and that’s what pisses people like you off.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Let me also be clear and educate people, the reason the privilege comment was out of line is because it is a real thing. Privilege is never having to do something illegal to feed your family, privilege is never having to sacrifice education because there is a pandemic outside of your control, privilege is never having to see your family, friends and neighbors being gunned down due to violence or wiped out by drugs and the list goes on and on.
Having to watch someone die of Covid or not be able to be bury them or even say goodbye is tragic. Devastating to say the least. But it’s not a sacrifice of your privilege.
This isnt isolated to race. The ladies on here are referring to economic suffering that the other side faces and are never set up to succeed. How these restrictions, weeks or even one week of closures have crippling impacts on these communities. And to brush it off, combat these claims or come up with off the wall analogy, truly shows your privilege. You don’t have to like it but it’s there.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
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Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
Last June numbers were pretty low and my child was still masked in school.
And I'm curious what will make cases drop again? It just fizzles out?
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
Last June numbers were pretty low and my child was still masked in school.
And I'm curious what will make cases drop again? It just fizzles out?
Prior to kids at least being eligible to be vaccinated, I get why schools had as many mandatory precautions as possible. I hope at some point this year we can finally relax restrictions though when cases fall.
There seems to be a cyclical pattern with the spikes, but it’s not entirely clear why cases start to drop. With this variant, if we follow a similar pattern to South Africa, hopefully we will be past the peak by the end of the month.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
They also have different quarantine rules. I don’t think it would work here with the quarantine rules they way they stand today.
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MrsS2005
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
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itsbabytime
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
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The Journey is the Destination
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
Quarantining is not doing anything. If the schools put out real data on transmissions in schools it would show that most of the children that are quarantining are not getting ill. This virus will be around forever. This latest strain is basically just giving people a cold. We need to learn to start dealing with it. Yes there will always be on offs who get seriously ill but people can get seriously ill from any virus. It really needs to stop and if someone wants to wear a mask, let them but it and quarantining should not be forced on anyone.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
Quarantining is not doing anything. If the schools put out real data on transmissions in schools it would show that most of the children that are quarantining are not getting ill. This virus will be around forever. This latest strain is basically just giving people a cold. We need to learn to start dealing with it. Yes there will always be on offs who get seriously ill but people can get seriously ill from any virus. It really needs to stop and if someone wants to wear a mask, let them but it and quarantining should not be forced on anyone.
Bingo. Amen.
My hair stylist just came back from TN and she said they never ONCE talk about Covid and vaccines. People who want to wear masks so but it is not required and it is just not talked about and shoved down their throats like up here.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
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Posted by JennP
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I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
Quarantining is not doing anything. If the schools put out real data on transmissions in schools it would show that most of the children that are quarantining are not getting ill. This virus will be around forever. This latest strain is basically just giving people a cold. We need to learn to start dealing with it. Yes there will always be on offs who get seriously ill but people can get seriously ill from any virus. It really needs to stop and if someone wants to wear a mask, let them but it and quarantining should not be forced on anyone.
Bingo. Amen.
My hair stylist just came back from TN and she said they never ONCE talk about Covid and vaccines. People who want to wear masks so but it is not required and it is just not talked about and shoved down their throats like up here.
Tennessee is a whole different animal.
I do think the school based quarantines aren’t doing anything as the kids are masked. Not sure what would happen if they unmasked though - but then again, people are gathering unmasked outside of school.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by KarenK122
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Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
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Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
Quarantining is not doing anything. If the schools put out real data on transmissions in schools it would show that most of the children that are quarantining are not getting ill. This virus will be around forever. This latest strain is basically just giving people a cold. We need to learn to start dealing with it. Yes there will always be on offs who get seriously ill but people can get seriously ill from any virus. It really needs to stop and if someone wants to wear a mask, let them but it and quarantining should not be forced on anyone.
Bingo. Amen.
My hair stylist just came back from TN and she said they never ONCE talk about Covid and vaccines. People who want to wear masks so but it is not required and it is just not talked about and shoved down their throats like up here.
Tennessee is a whole different animal.
I do think the school based quarantines aren’t doing anything as the kids are masked. Not sure what would happen if they unmasked though - but then again, people are gathering unmasked outside of school.
Seems all the southern states.
Exactly what would be the difference?
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by ali120206
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
Quarantining is not doing anything. If the schools put out real data on transmissions in schools it would show that most of the children that are quarantining are not getting ill. This virus will be around forever. This latest strain is basically just giving people a cold. We need to learn to start dealing with it. Yes there will always be on offs who get seriously ill but people can get seriously ill from any virus. It really needs to stop and if someone wants to wear a mask, let them but it and quarantining should not be forced on anyone.
Bingo. Amen.
My hair stylist just came back from TN and she said they never ONCE talk about Covid and vaccines. People who want to wear masks so but it is not required and it is just not talked about and shoved down their throats like up here.
Tennessee is a whole different animal.
I do think the school based quarantines aren’t doing anything as the kids are masked. Not sure what would happen if they unmasked though - but then again, people are gathering unmasked outside of school.
Seems all the southern states.
Exactly what would be the difference?
Most of my friends in non mask wearing states had a rough return to school but then things seemed to normalize after the initial spread. In GA they let you back after 3 days, masked, so I am sure that helped keep kids in classrooms. With a 5 or 10 day quarantine, and everyone within 6 ft of the positive having to quarantine if unmasked - it would be rough to do right now to be successful at keeping kids in school. Especially now that vaccinated teachers who are not boosted have to quarantine if exposed.
Also the county exec has no authority to do what he did anyway… so it’s a moot point.
I’m all for the removal of masks but I don’t think now is the right time to go do it.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
Quarantining is not doing anything. If the schools put out real data on transmissions in schools it would show that most of the children that are quarantining are not getting ill. This virus will be around forever. This latest strain is basically just giving people a cold. We need to learn to start dealing with it. Yes there will always be on offs who get seriously ill but people can get seriously ill from any virus. It really needs to stop and if someone wants to wear a mask, let them but it and quarantining should not be forced on anyone.
Quarantining isn’t doing anything because they aren’t quarantining anymore - at least in our district. If the kids are wearing masks there is no quarantine as per cdc so not sure why there would ever be school quarantines in NY. I literally don’t know even one kid that was quarantined from a school exposure this year and we have had hundreds of cases. Also, this year is very different than last when there was little to know spread in school. In our district there is a ton of in school spread. I’m not saying this means we should keep masks or quarantining I’m just saying that it’s definitely spreading in schools now and there is no quarantining anymore, I do believe if there was we would see a difference. I’ve seen classes where half the class ended up with covid in a 2 week time period. No one quarantined.
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Re: No masks required in schools in Nassau County
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
Quarantining is not doing anything. If the schools put out real data on transmissions in schools it would show that most of the children that are quarantining are not getting ill. This virus will be around forever. This latest strain is basically just giving people a cold. We need to learn to start dealing with it. Yes there will always be on offs who get seriously ill but people can get seriously ill from any virus. It really needs to stop and if someone wants to wear a mask, let them but it and quarantining should not be forced on anyone.
Quarantining isn’t doing anything because they aren’t quarantining anymore - at least in our district. If the kids are wearing masks there is no quarantine as per cdc so not sure why there would ever be school quarantines in NY. I literally don’t know even one kid that was quarantined from a school exposure this year and we have had hundreds of cases. Also, this year is very different than last when there was little to know spread in school. In our district there is a ton of in school spread. I’m not saying this means we should keep masks or quarantining I’m just saying that it’s definitely spreading in schools now and there is no quarantining anymore, I do believe if there was we would see a difference. I’ve seen classes where half the class ended up with covid in a 2 week time period. No one quarantined.
We have plenty of quarantines in our school. The cafeteria is a big example because they haven't yet figured out a way to eat with a mask on.
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I do think it would be a big deal if schools go remote. What I think people mean is, kids are in school. And have been pretty consistently since September of 2020. Yes there are quarantines are a few remote days here and there, but there have been no long term closures. The governor has said she will absolutely not close schools. So I just don't know where people are getting the idea from that it will happen again. I'm pretty sure the days of months long school closures are done.
Thank you. This is what I am trying to say although I am not surprised my words were twisted by some.
Reasonable people know that kids should be in school. Closures should be minimal and only due to absolute necessity. But people who are screaming about long term closures don't have recent precedent to back that up.
But many of the same people (not Luckystar) who are screaming the loudest about hating masks are also screaming the loudest about school closing. You cannot have it both ways.
ETA - NM I read LS's post
ITA with this. It doesn’t make sense to me to argue to remove masks, but then be up in arms about schools going remote. I can understand hesitancy with vaccinating kids and not wanting to make them mandatory. However, removing masks as well eliminates additional protection against a highly contagious strain. While it may be mild for most healthy people, without any protection of masks and/or vaccines, there will be even more transmission and a significant number of kids and staff will inevitably be out due to illness/quarantines. Whether the schools shut down or not, having kids out for a week or more due to illness/quarantines certainly puts a strain on both the kids and parents.
We certainly can’t live like this forever, but now doesn’t seem like the appropriate time to discuss removing masks in school.
But when will be the appropriate time if this virus is not going away? If people stopped testing and they decide to change the name and not call it Covid? Then people wouldn’t be all crazy?
We’re in the middle of an incredible surge right now. Yes, the strain is milder than earlier ones, but the transmission is out of control. The number of kids and staff out right now due to positive cases, symptoms or quarantines is higher than I’ve seen at any other point. It seems tone deaf to me to reignite the discussion on eliminating masks in school at this time. When the cases drop again, I don’t have an issue with discussing lifting the requirements or even relaxing them at certain points (at your desk, recess, etc.). Now is just not the right time IMO.
I get that but that is what happens at this time of the year. People are sick, kids are out of school.
The numbers were much lower while kids were in school so why wasn’t that the time to do it? This is not just to you but saying overall they will say not now, no not now, hmm maybe soon.
Why are they ok down south and other places not wearing masks in schools?
From what I’ve seen, the number of kids and staff out now far exceeds regular winter illnesses.
Honestly, at the beginning of the school year, I would’ve supported masks going away fully or being limited for the ages that were at least eligible to be vaccinated. I understand why elementary schools kept the mask requirements at that point. If numbers are better in the spring, I hope we can get to a point of lifting mask requirements.
The south had huge spikes in cases when schools resumed in August. I knew people whose kids were quarantined within the first few days of starting school. I haven’t been paying as much attention recently, but I believe those states are in bad shape again with the spike in cases and rise in hospitalizations.
Pretty sure there are some here who live outside of NY who are saying all is fine without the kids in masks.
I think the data has shown otherwise, but we can agree to disagree on that.
Just going by this board and people I know out of state.
My good friend lives in Florida with two
Elementary age kids that go to public school. Masks are optional and pretty much only half the class wears them. August and September was a complete disaster. Her kids were literally quarantined off and on for like two months they were home. At one point half of her sons class had covid. Her children did not get it then. It’s happening again now and her kids actually have covid now.
Without masks, there will be more quarantines and more cases. No one can say that won’t happen, it’s logical. That said I think the quarantine situation is what will determine what school districts do. Once spring sports start, parents will be up in arms if their kids are quarantined and miss playing their HS sports. I don’t see my district going for no masks even though I’m sure there will be some who advocate for it.
By spring quarantine will probably be down to 1 day per the CDC.
Quarantining is not doing anything. If the schools put out real data on transmissions in schools it would show that most of the children that are quarantining are not getting ill. This virus will be around forever. This latest strain is basically just giving people a cold. We need to learn to start dealing with it. Yes there will always be on offs who get seriously ill but people can get seriously ill from any virus. It really needs to stop and if someone wants to wear a mask, let them but it and quarantining should not be forced on anyone.
Quarantining isn’t doing anything because they aren’t quarantining anymore - at least in our district. If the kids are wearing masks there is no quarantine as per cdc so not sure why there would ever be school quarantines in NY. I literally don’t know even one kid that was quarantined from a school exposure this year and we have had hundreds of cases. Also, this year is very different than last when there was little to know spread in school. In our district there is a ton of in school spread. I’m not saying this means we should keep masks or quarantining I’m just saying that it’s definitely spreading in schools now and there is no quarantining anymore, I do believe if there was we would see a difference. I’ve seen classes where half the class ended up with covid in a 2 week time period. No one quarantined.
We have plenty of quarantines in our school. The cafeteria is a big example because they haven't yet figured out a way to eat with a mask on.
There is another way- spacing. Our elementary schools separate every class in half for lunch- half go to cafeteria and half stay in class room. Thus when unmasked they are theoretically 6 feet apart. NO quarantining from lunch ever. Realistically, this is probably where a lot of the in school spread is happening.
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