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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by NervousNell
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unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
 Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
I wonder if you'd be allowed to bring your own formula in.
That is what I'd do if I ever forsaw it being an issue in the hospital.
Period, end of story.
You and I would. Many of us would. But that would mean baby has to be with mom 24/7 in the hospital room. I can't imagine the staff using someone else's formula, kwim, in the nursery. So now you add moms who are exhausted or in pain, who can't yet care for baby, who are pressured into keeping baby in their room to care for baby and supply baby their home stash of formula....and that to me is a pressure a new mom does NOT need.
I have been respectful, I have but this is making me So now new mom's will be pressured to be with their baby 24/7 because ffing mothers will bring in their own formula? Ummmmm isn't that what happens when a human is born? Isn't that the expectation...that the baby is w/mom? I know a lot of hospitals no longer have a normal nursery because the expectation is rooming in w/baby. What exactly do you purpose they do? You call the desk when you want the baby and hit the call light to send them away so you can not feel pressure and recover? I just don't know what you want?
This is what I did.
I didn't want the baby in my room at night.
Sorry if that makes me a monster.
Or a bad mother.
I admit, I am far from mother of the year.
After DH left, they would take her to the nursery. And bring her back around 6 am.
And guess what?
It was my LAST two nights of sleep for almost a year.
So I dont' regret it one bit.
I know, I know.... I am selfish.
I was clearly not very good at making my point, and I don't think someone who sends the baby to the nursery is a bad mom...I never said that. What i'm trying to say is this is getting ridiculous! What exactly is the "right" thing to do then? Stop the 27 hospitals that signed up before this was a "Bloomberg" thing and say no you should back out because what if? The argument against it is then that the formula is "locked away" and now you will feel like you have to bring your own and thus eliminating the ability for the baby to go to the nursery. I just don't get it. Should there be formula vending machines in every room then? A lot of hospitals don't have nursery's anymore, and a lot of nurses will not take the baby bfing or ffing. It's not "their" job. This is the stance on the 24/7 rooming in hospitals.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by NervousNell
This is what I did.
I didn't want the baby in my room at night.
Sorry if that makes me a monster.
Or a bad mother.
I admit, I am far from mother of the year.
After DH left, they would take her to the nursery. And bring her back around 6 am.
And guess what?
It was my LAST two nights of sleep for almost a year.
So I dont' regret it one bit.
I know, I know.... I am selfish.
I agree. I am glad I had such a good experience. No one pressured me to BF. No one pressured me to keep my child all night. They allowed me to recover and rest, and brought my baby back to me every am once she was out of NICU. Thankfully I dealt with some compassionate and smart women/staff, who didn't make my experience a bad one. Maybe they were smart enough to realize I had my DD a mth early, lost a lot of blood, was in pain and in shock, and nervous as a first time mom. Thankfully I had caring women who didn't make me feel like shite for recovering at night.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by computergirl
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And having had major surgery, yeah, i think I had a right to sleep at night.
ITA. No surgery in the world is treated as casually as a C-section. Your abdomen and uterus are cut open, folks. You forget how much you use those core muscles till they burn every time you try to use them. Imagine a woman goes in the hospital for say, a hysterectomy-- within hours of getting out of recovery, they hand her a newborn baby and say "by the way, he'll be in your room overnight... you're responsible for caring for him if he needs to be fed or changed... good luck!".
My cath wasn't even out yet and the expectation was myself or my husband would care for the baby. I was told they don't watch your baby. So maybe i'm just hardened to this. I was expected to nurse, feed, change, and document all his needs my entire stay in L&D post c-section. They came in every 2 hrs to make sure I was documenting everything and then yelled when I forgot. It sucks, and i'm not denying it would be nice to sleep and recover, but not all hospitals are like that, nor do they have the staff that will do what you ladies had.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
My cath wasn't even out yet and the expectation was myself or my husband would care for the baby. I was told they don't watch your baby. So maybe i'm just hardened to this. I was expected to nurse, feed, change, and document all his needs my entire stay in L&D post c-section. They came in every 2 hrs to make sure I was documenting everything and then yelled when I forgot. It sucks, and i'm not denying it would be nice to sleep and recover, but not all hospitals are like that, nor do they have the staff that will do what you ladies had.
Having had this experience, would you actually recommend this as the right way for a woman to recover? I'm just curious. Outside of promoting nursing, I can't understand how this is beneficial to either the mother (this level of responsibility and stress can't possibly be good for a post-surgical patient), nor the baby (who is being cared for by someone who is not exactly at the top of their game)
I am so grateful that I had a more balanced experience, where I was able to spend the days with the baby, have the nurses help me learn to take care of him, and then have some hours of rest at night.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Where does it say in the initiative that formula will be locked up?
What it says is:
The initiative includes the following components:
o A call to all NYC maternity hospitals to make a voluntary commitment to support mothers who
choose to breastfeed by:
? Enforcing the NYS hospital regulation to not supplement breastfeeding infants with formula
feedings unless medically indicated
? Limiting access to infant formula by hospital staff
? Discontinuing the distribution of promotional or free infant formula
? Prohibiting the display and distribution of infant formula promotional materials in any
hospital location
o A public awareness campaign to promote the health benefits of breast milk, and to inform women of
their right to receive education, encouragement and support to breastfeed their babies if they choose
to do so.
Are people interpreting "limiting access" as "locked up?"
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PeasandCarrots
My cath wasn't even out yet and the expectation was myself or my husband would care for the baby. I was told they don't watch your baby. So maybe i'm just hardened to this. I was expected to nurse, feed, change, and document all his needs my entire stay in L&D post c-section. They came in every 2 hrs to make sure I was documenting everything and then yelled when I forgot. It sucks, and i'm not denying it would be nice to sleep and recover, but not all hospitals are like that, nor do they have the staff that will do what you ladies had.
Having had this experience, would you actually recommend this as the right way for a woman to recover? I'm just curious. Outside of promoting nursing, I can't understand how this is beneficial to either the mother (this level of responsibility and stress can't possibly be good for a post-surgical patient), nor the baby (who is being cared for by someone who is not exactly at the top of their game)
I am so grateful that I had a more balanced experience, where I was able to spend the days with the baby, have the nurses help me learn to take care of him, and then have some hours of rest at night.
I have heard of stories of women DROPPING their newborns. The nurse told me...that's why I know they NOT only cared for ME as a patient, which I was...but they also cared greatly for my baby.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by SweetTooth
Where does it say in the initiative that formula will be locked up?
What it says is:
The initiative includes the following components:
o A call to all NYC maternity hospitals to make a voluntary commitment to support mothers who
choose to breastfeed by:
? Enforcing the NYS hospital regulation to not supplement breastfeeding infants with formula
feedings unless medically indicated
? Limiting access to infant formula by hospital staff
? Discontinuing the distribution of promotional or free infant formula
? Prohibiting the display and distribution of infant formula promotional materials in any
hospital location
o A public awareness campaign to promote the health benefits of breast milk, and to inform women of
their right to receive education, encouragement and support to breastfeed their babies if they choose
to do so.
Are people interpreting "limiting access" as "locked up?"
Yes they are and what many are failing to realize is that 27 out of 40 city hospitals are ALREADY doing this. I haven't heard of any dire circumstances occurring or of anything serious enough to make the news.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PeasandCarrots
My cath wasn't even out yet and the expectation was myself or my husband would care for the baby. I was told they don't watch your baby. So maybe i'm just hardened to this. I was expected to nurse, feed, change, and document all his needs my entire stay in L&D post c-section. They came in every 2 hrs to make sure I was documenting everything and then yelled when I forgot. It sucks, and i'm not denying it would be nice to sleep and recover, but not all hospitals are like that, nor do they have the staff that will do what you ladies had.
Having had this experience, would you actually recommend this as the right way for a woman to recover? I'm just curious. Outside of promoting nursing, I can't understand how this is beneficial to either the mother (this level of responsibility and stress can't possibly be good for a post-surgical patient), nor the baby (who is being cared for by someone who is not exactly at the top of their game)
I am so grateful that I had a more balanced experience, where I was able to spend the days with the baby, have the nurses help me learn to take care of him, and then have some hours of rest at night.
No I don't think it's a good way to recover, and I left 51 hrs after my section and recovered at home. What I didn't appreciate was the constant on my assness(if that's even a word) about caring for my son when they clearly felt he wasn't their "patient'. I guess my expectation was I would do all his care. It never dawned on me anybody else would. It never occurred to me he would sleep in a nursery, or someone else would watch him while I rested...it's just not done like that. I guess I am naive to assume that once he was out he was my responsibility 100%, but like I said that is just how it is.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by SweetTooth
Where does it say in the initiative that formula will be locked up?
What it says is:
The initiative includes the following components:
o A call to all NYC maternity hospitals to make a voluntary commitment to support mothers who
choose to breastfeed by:
? Enforcing the NYS hospital regulation to not supplement breastfeeding infants with formula
feedings unless medically indicated
? Limiting access to infant formula by hospital staff
? Discontinuing the distribution of promotional or free infant formula
? Prohibiting the display and distribution of infant formula promotional materials in any
hospital location
o A public awareness campaign to promote the health benefits of breast milk, and to inform women of
their right to receive education, encouragement and support to breastfeed their babies if they choose
to do so.
Are people interpreting "limiting access" as "locked up?"
Yes they are and what many are failing to realize is that 27 out of 40 city hospitals are ALREADY doing this. I haven't heard of any dire circumstances occurring or of anything serious enough to make the news.
And I am saying I stayed in a LI hospital that did this and it was not a good experience at all. We were at the point where we were about to bring in our own formula. I did not go hoem with any was not given any formula company info nothing. I do not care about not bringing any home with me because I can afford to feed my child with formula but when I am a patient I expect to be able to get formula for my child and not have to beg and plead for it.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by alli3131
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by SweetTooth
Where does it say in the initiative that formula will be locked up?
What it says is:
The initiative includes the following components:
o A call to all NYC maternity hospitals to make a voluntary commitment to support mothers who
choose to breastfeed by:
? Enforcing the NYS hospital regulation to not supplement breastfeeding infants with formula
feedings unless medically indicated
? Limiting access to infant formula by hospital staff
? Discontinuing the distribution of promotional or free infant formula
? Prohibiting the display and distribution of infant formula promotional materials in any
hospital location
o A public awareness campaign to promote the health benefits of breast milk, and to inform women of
their right to receive education, encouragement and support to breastfeed their babies if they choose
to do so.
Are people interpreting "limiting access" as "locked up?"
Yes they are and what many are failing to realize is that 27 out of 40 city hospitals are ALREADY doing this. I haven't heard of any dire circumstances occurring or of anything serious enough to make the news.
And I am saying I stayed in a LI hospital that did this and it was not a good experience at all. We were at the point where we were about to bring in our own formula. I did not go hoem with any was not given any formula company info nothing. I do not care about not bringing any home with me because I can afford to feed my child with formula but when I am a patient I expect to be able to get formula for my child and not have to beg and plead for it.
Not sure if you did it earlier in the thread but can you please share your story with us, if you have the time or energy? That is just awful that you had such a bad experience.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Kidsaplenty
Posted by Goobster
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And I asked you this question on another thread, if these studies were valid and actually fact based, forward them to the AAP so they can update their recommendations on breastfeeding. )
And what makes you so sure that one day the recommendations won't change? We learn new things every day in the medical community and recommendations for various things do change.
For example, I read that it appeared the rotovirus vaccine wasn't working properly in BF babies due to the mother's antibodies in the BM. So they were considering recommending delaying BF around the time of vaccination. The suggestion was not made, but it seemed to be a thought.
So who knows what the future holds. When it comes to the medical community, guidelines and recommendations change EVERY day. So no one can predict the future.
So you think some day, some how, breast milk, you know, the nourishment that is specific to your body and your baby, will somehow become inferior? Seems delusional to me. If someone who was anti-vaccination said that to you, "who knows what the recommendations will be 10 years from now. I read some interesting studies and thought they might be true, so I didn't vax my kids." You'd be all over them telling them it was absurd. Puh-lease. It's one thing to say of I FF because it works for me. But when you try and act like you have any medical evidence to back it up, I call major BS on that.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what you said, but in 10 years from now when all new studies come out (as always) you never know what the outcome will be. things change , you can't use the aap as bible because it's not and it won't ever be. Use your own judgement ,
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PeasandCarrots
My cath wasn't even out yet and the expectation was myself or my husband would care for the baby. I was told they don't watch your baby. So maybe i'm just hardened to this. I was expected to nurse, feed, change, and document all his needs my entire stay in L&D post c-section. They came in every 2 hrs to make sure I was documenting everything and then yelled when I forgot. It sucks, and i'm not denying it would be nice to sleep and recover, but not all hospitals are like that, nor do they have the staff that will do what you ladies had.
Having had this experience, would you actually recommend this as the right way for a woman to recover? I'm just curious. Outside of promoting nursing, I can't understand how this is beneficial to either the mother (this level of responsibility and stress can't possibly be good for a post-surgical patient), nor the baby (who is being cared for by someone who is not exactly at the top of their game)
I am so grateful that I had a more balanced experience, where I was able to spend the days with the baby, have the nurses help me learn to take care of him, and then have some hours of rest at night.
No I don't think it's a good way to recover, and I left 51 hrs after my section and recovered at home. What I didn't appreciate was the constant on my assness(if that's even a word) about caring for my son when they clearly felt he wasn't their "patient'. I guess my expectation was I would do all his care. It never dawned on me anybody else would. It never occurred to me he would sleep in a nursery, or someone else would watch him while I rested...it's just not done like that. I guess I am naive to assume that once he was out he was my responsibility 100%, but like I said that is just how it is.
You do know that the OB you select for your care is your choice right? You have a choice to select an OB that delivers at a hospital where this is NOT the norm. NSLIJ just redid the maternity wards at Manhasset and New Hyde Park. Do you know why they spent millions to have beautiful, all private rooms, with nurseries that are convenient to patient rooms? Because hospitals are money making businesses. They know that people will continue to want to have babies at their locations if they provide good services. If you have another child you should really look into going to a hospital that will provide you with the care that you need and deserve. Unless you are on medicaid and are truly limited in what doctors you can see and where you can deliver I can almost guarantee that you will find better options than what you experienced.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by AlyJD
After 13 pages, let's see. With one word, do you agree with this initiative; yes or no?
YES!!!
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by AlyJD
After 13 pages, let's see. With one word, do you agree with this initiative; yes or no?
NO
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Goobster
Posted by finallyhere
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
I wonder if you'd be allowed to bring your own formula in.
That is what I'd do if I ever forsaw it being an issue in the hospital.
Period, end of story.
You and I would. Many of us would. But many moms would not even think of that....or have the resources to do that.
But that would also mean baby has to be with mom 24/7 in the hospital room. I can't imagine the staff using someone else's formula, kwim, in the nursery. So now you add moms who are exhausted or in pain, who can't yet care for baby, who are pressured into keeping baby in their room to care for baby and supply baby their home stash of formula....and that to me is a pressure a new mom does NOT need.
What I would like to know is, will they tell new moms "If you say you may want to BF or def want to BF, then you will be denyed formula"? So I sort of feel women might be forced into BF if they push that issue simply b/c a woman was on the fence, or said yes but changed her mind.
If one lacks resources to bring formula for their child in the hospital, then how will they provide formula in 2 or 4 days when the baby comes home with them, and they are responsible for feeding the child for 21 years?
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by AlyJD
If one lacks resources to bring formula for their child in the hospital, then how will they provide formula in 2 or 4 days when the baby comes home with them, and they are responsible for feeding the child for 21 years?
Many women go into labor unexpectedly, and they are unprepared. Most women would THINK the hospital would provide formula, as they always have. And many women will go on WIC, although I am not sure how that works and how quickly that is able to be utilized.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by AlyJD
If one lacks resources to bring formula for their child in the hospital, then how will they provide formula in 2 or 4 days when the baby comes home with them, and they are responsible for feeding the child for 21 years?
Many women go into labor unexpectedly, and they are unprepared. Most women would THINK the hospital would provide formula, as they always have. And many women will go on WIC, although I am not sure how that works and how quickly that is able to be utilized.
Yes, labor is usu unexpected, at least at the exact time that one goes into labor. But, you know you are pregnant; you know you plan to go to a hospital; you know enough to pack toothpaste, a toothbrush, a change of clothes, slippers for yourself, a coming-home outfit for baby, etc etc etc. If hospitals really started to "lock up" formula & make it so difficult to get, don't you think that this info would go around & FF women would be able to pack formula in their hospital bag?
This is not to say that I agree they are "locking up" formula. When I was in the hospital w/ my DD, I wanted to EBF & they pushed formula b/c she wasn't peeing (even though studies show that babies have enough food & nutrients from you during the first 2 days while your milk is coming in to keep them well)... and they didn't have the formula locked up, but bottles certainly weren't right there for me to take... but I had no problem with the baby nurses giving me a bottle each time they wanted her fed.
If you are in a hospital where it takes "hours" to get formula for your child, you should demand better care next time and go to a better hospital. Most women have choices (unless so limited b/c of Medicaid, etc), and some just don't look into which hospitals are best for them. As someone earlier said, hospitals need to balance a budget; if enough people don't like one hospital's gig, the hospital will have to change or go out of business.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by alli3131
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by SweetTooth
Where does it say in the initiative that formula will be locked up?
What it says is:
The initiative includes the following components:
o A call to all NYC maternity hospitals to make a voluntary commitment to support mothers who
choose to breastfeed by:
? Enforcing the NYS hospital regulation to not supplement breastfeeding infants with formula
feedings unless medically indicated
? Limiting access to infant formula by hospital staff
? Discontinuing the distribution of promotional or free infant formula
? Prohibiting the display and distribution of infant formula promotional materials in any
hospital location
o A public awareness campaign to promote the health benefits of breast milk, and to inform women of
their right to receive education, encouragement and support to breastfeed their babies if they choose
to do so.
Are people interpreting "limiting access" as "locked up?"
Yes they are and what many are failing to realize is that 27 out of 40 city hospitals are ALREADY doing this. I haven't heard of any dire circumstances occurring or of anything serious enough to make the news.
And I am saying I stayed in a LI hospital that did this and it was not a good experience at all. We were at the point where we were about to bring in our own formula. I did not go hoem with any was not given any formula company info nothing. I do not care about not bringing any home with me because I can afford to feed my child with formula but when I am a patient I expect to be able to get formula for my child and not have to beg and plead for it.
This is interesting because I think we delivered in the same place and I had no issues with nurses caring for me and the baby..they were very sweet and took her whenever was necessary..I was on magnesium in the beginning and was afraid I would fall asleep with DD or even drop her, so I had nurses around ASAP and in the very beginning, wouldn't keep her because I couldn't, literally couldn't, get out of bed...I had no issues getting whatever formula I needed as I had BF issues and DD lost a lot of weight and was jaundice...if a hospital made me feel like I or the baby were not their patients, there would be hell for sure...
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I wonder if people's different experiences (even at the same hospital) stem from whether or not they ORIGINALLY intended to bf.
For my 2nd child, I expressed from the very beginning that I did not want to even try bfing (I had bf exclusively for my 1st and hated it). Nobody tried to change my mind, and formula was given freely. Now, if I had initially expressed a desire to bf, but maybe was having a rough time with it and THEN asked for formula instead, maybe they would have given me a harder time, trying to get me to stick with bfing.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
Posted by alli3131
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by SweetTooth
Where does it say in the initiative that formula will be locked up?
What it says is:
The initiative includes the following components:
o A call to all NYC maternity hospitals to make a voluntary commitment to support mothers who
choose to breastfeed by:
? Enforcing the NYS hospital regulation to not supplement breastfeeding infants with formula
feedings unless medically indicated
? Limiting access to infant formula by hospital staff
? Discontinuing the distribution of promotional or free infant formula
? Prohibiting the display and distribution of infant formula promotional materials in any
hospital location
o A public awareness campaign to promote the health benefits of breast milk, and to inform women of
their right to receive education, encouragement and support to breastfeed their babies if they choose
to do so.
Are people interpreting "limiting access" as "locked up?"
Yes they are and what many are failing to realize is that 27 out of 40 city hospitals are ALREADY doing this. I haven't heard of any dire circumstances occurring or of anything serious enough to make the news.
And I am saying I stayed in a LI hospital that did this and it was not a good experience at all. We were at the point where we were about to bring in our own formula. I did not go hoem with any was not given any formula company info nothing. I do not care about not bringing any home with me because I can afford to feed my child with formula but when I am a patient I expect to be able to get formula for my child and not have to beg and plead for it.
This is interesting because I think we delivered in the same place and I had no issues with nurses caring for me and the baby..they were very sweet and took her whenever was necessary..I was on magnesium in the beginning and was afraid I would fall asleep with DD or even drop her, so I had nurses around ASAP and in the very beginning, wouldn't keep her because I couldn't, literally couldn't, get out of bed...I had no issues getting whatever formula I needed as I had BF issues and DD lost a lot of weight and was jaundice...if a hospital made me feel like I or the baby were not their patients, there would be hell for sure...
It was Good Sam. And I will most liekly be there for #2 unless I luck out and my Dr is at plainview. I will follow my Dr to hell and back so I have no choice to go back there if I need to.
I have to say the nurses I had during my stay at the beginnign of my 3rd tri (Blood clots) were amazing and loved all of them.
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| Posted 8/2/12 9:50 AM |
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Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
We have the same dr and I feel the same...I delivered at good Sam and formula was given to us 4 at a time I believe and I'm sorry you had a poor experience...i didn't want to leave, I felt it was so good there...other than the fact that it was hot and I shared a room lol...
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| Posted 8/2/12 9:56 AM |
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alli3131
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
We have the same dr and I feel the same...I delivered at good Sam and formula was given to us 4 at a time I believe and I'm sorry you had a poor experience...i didn't want to leave, I felt it was so good there...other than the fact that it was hot and I shared a room lol...
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And besides the formula issue I hated it, super hot, had the worst roommate ever. Dr A tried to get me moved but the place was packed. I guess everyone wanted a New Years baby. My roommmate was sick. SHe was there at least a day before me and was still there after I left. I left a day early cause she was so disgusting I couldn't share the bathroom anymore. And I was getting worried DS or I would end up sick. So unless Dr A goes to another hospital I will be stuck there.
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| Posted 8/2/12 10:23 AM |
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by SweetTooth
Are people interpreting "limiting access" as "locked up?"
dude the ONLY thing I have taken away from this thread is that NO ONE CARES about what the initiative actually says.
 
this whole conversation is just dumb. DUMB.
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| Posted 8/2/12 10:54 AM |
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by computergirl
I wonder if people's different experiences (even at the same hospital) stem from whether or not they ORIGINALLY intended to bf.
For my 2nd child, I expressed from the very beginning that I did not want to even try bfing (I had bf exclusively for my 1st and hated it). Nobody tried to change my mind, and formula was given freely. Now, if I had initially expressed a desire to bf, but maybe was having a rough time with it and THEN asked for formula instead, maybe they would have given me a harder time, trying to get me to stick with bfing.
to add to this, i expressed I wanted to bf my first. It did not work out at all. I blame my baby because I successfully bf my second. I was pushed so much to bf my first and once I got formula, which was no small feat, and once i finally came to terms with feeling like a failure, a laction women showed up and made me feel like shit all over again
I think that most of us women who are tough cookies and usually stand by their choices - well, that's all thrown out the window once giving birth. I never felt more emotional, vulnerable, confused or scared right after giving birth. Exhausted, dehydrated, not confident.... Those factors didn't help in me standing up for myself. And my choices.
I swear some nurses and LCs know it and prey on that weak moment.
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| Posted 8/2/12 11:21 AM |
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by alli3131
It was Good Sam. And I will most liekly be there for #2 unless I luck out and my Dr is at plainview. I will follow my Dr to hell and back so I have no choice to go back there if I need to.
I have to say the nurses I had during my stay at the beginnign of my 3rd tri (Blood clots) were amazing and loved all of them.
Nothing to add but I just wanted to say how suprised I am to hear that the hospital you're referring to is Good Sam.  I had a great experience there when I had DS.
Sorry that happened to you
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