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TheDivineMrsM
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by MrsG102
What hospitals should do is making mandatory for nurses to ask new mothers whether or not they're going to breastfeed their baby. A lot of hospitals don't ask and just give the baby formula.
This is EXACTLY what this initiative is for!! It has nothing to do with forcing breastfeeding on anyone. If a mom wants to formula feed, she will get formula.
If she says she wants to breastfeed then they won't "just give the baby formula" as you stated above when this new initiative is in place.
For some reason no one is understanding this.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Bloomberg. He is just encouraging hospitals to participate. This is an initiative of the World Health Organization.
It is a VOLUNTARY program for hospitals to participate in, not a law. The hospitals that decide to participate will have to keep count of the formula they use so that it is documented that breastfed babies are not fed formula in the nursery at night if the mom doesn't want that. (This happens A LOT)
Moms who want to formula feed will GET FORMULA for their babies! They just have to ask. No one is hiding formula.
Moms who breastfeed won't have formula pushed on them. They will receive support for their decision to breastfeed.
 
A lot of moms on this board spent 12 pages beating each other up, when the initiative has nothing to do with the FF v BFing debate. We still have choices. FF, BF, give your kid a steak, whatever. The initiative was designed to boost NYC's pathetic BFing success rates. It's about helping moms that can BF and want to, but need help (which is almost everyone that's a first-time mom). Stony Brook and Winthrop and other OOS hospitals already do this. That's really it.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by MrsG102
What hospitals should do is making mandatory for nurses to ask new mothers whether or not they're going to breastfeed their baby. A lot of hospitals don't ask and just give the baby formula.
This is EXACTLY what this initiative is for!! It has nothing to do with forcing breastfeeding on anyone. If a mom wants to formula feed, she will get formula.
If she says she wants to breastfeed then they won't "just give the baby formula" as you stated above when this new initiative is in place.
For some reason no one is understanding this.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Bloomberg. He is just encouraging hospitals to participate. This is an initiative of the World Health Organization.
It is a VOLUNTARY program for hospitals to participate in, not a law. The hospitals that decide to participate will have to keep count of the formula they use so that it is documented that breastfed babies are not fed formula in the nursery at night if the mom doesn't want that. (This happens A LOT)
Moms who want to formula feed will GET FORMULA for their babies! They just have to ask. No one is hiding formula.
Moms who breastfeed won't have formula pushed on them. They will receive support for their decision to breastfeed.
There have been a few of us TRYING for 10 pages to get this across. I hope people read this and finally get it. Geez, how many people have to write this before people will understand it?
I know this isn't pc, but it really irks me when people only read the OP and then maybe one or 2 things and then comment AFTER a war is going on. Many have missed people saying what the pp said, and are just spouting off...yes I said it, spouting off. It is NOT a law and it isn't the mayor that started it. Be pissed that's fine, but at least be pissed for the right reason.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Ummm I didn't read through the comments... PLUS I'm crashing here... but I would just love that lecture, I really would. I'd love to see the look on their faces when I whip around and tell them that my baby is a product of surrogacy- and that if I have to depend on my own breast milk, my child will starve. 
ETA: Ok nevermind.. now I read the comments  I'm going back to my little infertile corner now. Sorry ladies  
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Alexandra17
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PennyCat
Ummm I didn't read through the comments... PLUS I'm crashing here... but I would just love that lecture, I really would. I'd love to see the look on their faces when I whip around and tell them that my baby is a product of surrogacy- and that if I have to depend on my own breast milk, my child will starve.
ETA: Ok nevermind.. now I read the comments I'm going back to my little infertile corner now. Sorry ladies
you are going to be such a great mom no matter what you feed them, if you feed your baby from a bottle or a boob. Yes, I stalk your posts.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by maybesoon
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Is his reasoning to discourage those who require $$$ assistance such as WIC, from requiring more $$ assistance to feed their child formula?
Or is this up there with his plan to limit the size of a soda a person can buy?
Before he tries to force breastfeeding, he should try growing breasts and see if his opinion changes. 
This! I think it's totally a WIC issue, trying to save the city $$.
i would be shocked it this WASN'T the reason
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LoveMyFamily
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
After 13 pages, let's see. With one word, do you agree with this initiative; yes or no?
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Kidsaplenty
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
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Posted by Kidsaplenty
And I asked you this question on another thread, if these studies were valid and actually fact based, forward them to the AAP so they can update their recommendations on breastfeeding. )
And what makes you so sure that one day the recommendations won't change? We learn new things every day in the medical community and recommendations for various things do change.
For example, I read that it appeared the rotovirus vaccine wasn't working properly in BF babies due to the mother's antibodies in the BM. So they were considering recommending delaying BF around the time of vaccination. The suggestion was not made, but it seemed to be a thought.
So who knows what the future holds. When it comes to the medical community, guidelines and recommendations change EVERY day. So no one can predict the future.
So you think some day, some how, breast milk, you know, the nourishment that is specific to your body and your baby, will somehow become inferior? Seems delusional to me. If someone who was anti-vaccination said that to you, "who knows what the recommendations will be 10 years from now. I read some interesting studies and thought they might be true, so I didn't vax my kids." You'd be all over them telling them it was absurd. Puh-lease. It's one thing to say of I FF because it works for me. But when you try and act like you have any medical evidence to back it up, I call major BS on that.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by MrsG102
What hospitals should do is making mandatory for nurses to ask new mothers whether or not they're going to breastfeed their baby. A lot of hospitals don't ask and just give the baby formula.
This is EXACTLY what this initiative is for!! It has nothing to do with forcing breastfeeding on anyone. If a mom wants to formula feed, she will get formula.
If she says she wants to breastfeed then they won't "just give the baby formula" as you stated above when this new initiative is in place.
For some reason no one is understanding this.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Bloomberg. He is just encouraging hospitals to participate. This is an initiative of the World Health Organization.
It is a VOLUNTARY program for hospitals to participate in, not a law. The hospitals that decide to participate will have to keep count of the formula they use so that it is documented that breastfed babies are not fed formula in the nursery at night if the mom doesn't want that. (This happens A LOT)
Moms who want to formula feed will GET FORMULA for their babies! They just have to ask. No one is hiding formula.
Moms who breastfeed won't have formula pushed on them. They will receive support for their decision to breastfeed.
And the ONLY thing you had to do to learn this was go directly to the initiative's website instead of relying on a NY Post article
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MrsKelly
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by ihad2
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you're an @sshole. A.Giant.@sshole.
i read all 13 pages of this thread and this is ALL i am walking away thinking. We are all different and difference of opinions is human nature... but delivery of your opinion is everything.
I dont care what you stand for or if it makes sense. All i know is you have gone out of your way to make others feel inferior for choosing to FF. Get off your high horse before you get a nosebleed. You are DISGUSTING.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PennyCat
Ummm I didn't read through the comments... PLUS I'm crashing here... but I would just love that lecture, I really would. I'd love to see the look on their faces when I whip around and tell them that my baby is a product of surrogacy- and that if I have to depend on my own breast milk, my child will starve.
ETA: Ok nevermind.. now I read the comments I'm going back to my little infertile corner now. Sorry ladies
This has nothing to do with this at all really, but when I was reading books on breastfeeding there were sections about how to start lactating even if you weren't the one who gave birth - such as surrogacy or adoption. I'm not saying you should do that, but I thought it was fascinating. I didn't even know it was possible before reading those books.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by maybesoon
There is a bigger issue at hand:
Women, return to work after 6 weeks with no pay. Leave your newborns with god knows who for how many hours a week.
Women, breastfeed only because it's what is best. Formula is a no no. Sure be up all night, you can still function at work when you go back at 6 weeks.
Women, work until the day you give birth because You should. You are a hero.
Women, don't have c sections have V births because it's better for everyone. Push for 5 hours, you can do it!
Women, society says you should work FT to contribute to household, you wouldnt want to put too much pressure on your dh. It's NOT ok if you look old and tired though.
Women, you must have a spotless house, create amazing meals, make sure your dh and children are happy and taken care of. You are last priority of course.
There are SO many demands placed upon women, and what do we do? Argue about ridiculous things with eachother. Women do this to themselves. My dh has never talked about how we fed our babies, no one cares ultimately.
How will women get anywhere in this world when they can't support each other? It's sad and it seems like some moms in these posts feel so desperate to prove that what they chose is best.
I love this!! 
Well said!
But you forgot something.
We are also supposed to have those V births with NO epi!! No drugs at all.
Because epis are bad! All natural! Do it with no drugs!
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Naturalmama
The only thing "insane" about this whole thread is the people on BOTH sides making mothers on the opposite side feel inadequate for their choices. Worry about your own kid and move on.[/QUOTE
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by MrsG102
What hospitals should do is making mandatory for nurses to ask new mothers whether or not they're going to breastfeed their baby. A lot of hospitals don't ask and just give the baby formula.
This is EXACTLY what this initiative is for!! It has nothing to do with forcing breastfeeding on anyone. If a mom wants to formula feed, she will get formula.
If she says she wants to breastfeed then they won't "just give the baby formula" as you stated above when this new initiative is in place.
For some reason no one is understanding this.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Bloomberg. He is just encouraging hospitals to participate. This is an initiative of the World Health Organization.
It is a VOLUNTARY program for hospitals to participate in, not a law. The hospitals that decide to participate will have to keep count of the formula they use so that it is documented that breastfed babies are not fed formula in the nursery at night if the mom doesn't want that. (This happens A LOT)
Moms who want to formula feed will GET FORMULA for their babies! They just have to ask. No one is hiding formula.
Moms who breastfeed won't have formula pushed on them. They will receive support for their decision to breastfeed.
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Kidsaplenty
Posted by Goobster
Posted by Kidsaplenty
And I asked you this question on another thread, if these studies were valid and actually fact based, forward them to the AAP so they can update their recommendations on breastfeeding. )
And what makes you so sure that one day the recommendations won't change? We learn new things every day in the medical community and recommendations for various things do change.
For example, I read that it appeared the rotovirus vaccine wasn't working properly in BF babies due to the mother's antibodies in the BM. So they were considering recommending delaying BF around the time of vaccination. The suggestion was not made, but it seemed to be a thought.
So who knows what the future holds. When it comes to the medical community, guidelines and recommendations change EVERY day. So no one can predict the future.
So you think some day, some how, breast milk, you know, the nourishment that is specific to your body and your baby, will somehow become inferior? Seems delusional to me. If someone who was anti-vaccination said that to you, "who knows what the recommendations will be 10 years from now. I read some interesting studies and thought they might be true, so I didn't vax my kids." You'd be all over them telling them it was absurd. Puh-lease. It's one thing to say of I FF because it works for me. But when you try and act like you have any medical evidence to back it up, I call major BS on that.
Not backing up my decision based on this possibility but when people make choices and decisions, for me I factor in ALL the possibilities. I did not BF partly b/c I was NOT convinced it was worth the sacrifice to me. I am just not convinced BM has all the benefits some people believe it does. There are so many variable factors such as genetics, family, environment, etc, that determine how intelligent someone will become, or how strong someone's immune system might be, etc. So no, I don't just believe B/C it is breastmilk and B/C it comes from our bodies that makes it only beneficial and that there can't possibly be ANY cons to it that aren't worth factoring into the CHOICE to BF or not.
I DO believe BM does just wonderful at nourishing a baby (as does formula). And I do believe it provides temporary immunity while a baby is nursing. But I don't believe there are NO cons or negatives, and I don't believe it holds ANY long term positive effects. I just don't believe any of that can be proven. So I decided it just wasn't worth the sacrifice, for me, when formula exists.
As for vaccinations, yes, people say NO to those too based on things they believe, read, studies, etc. So to me this is no different. I did the same when it came to making choices about vaccines.....looked at all the possibilities that are linked to using vs not using. I can't even understand how you can bring up vaccinations as an arguement b/c yes, people DO refuse vaccines b/c they are new, or controversial, or b/c they believe the harm is greater than the good. For example, I refused the rotovirus vaccine b/c it was pulled from the market at one point b/c it was LINKED to babies developing intussussception (intestinal issue). Just b/c they put it back on the market when my baby was born, I didn't feel comfortable. I weighed the pros and cons and what might be linked vs what might be the benefit and I said NO. I skipped that one b/c I just felt that they could pull it again down the line.
That's how people make choices.. And that's why it will be very hard for a new mom who just gave birth to not feel forced if she says she is on the fence, or wants to BF< but then changes her mind and wants formula. I sure hope they don't give those moms a hard time.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by finallyhere
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
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NervousNell
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Goobster
Posted by finallyhere
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
I wonder if you'd be allowed to bring your own formula in.
That is what I'd do if I ever forsaw it being an issue in the hospital.
Period, end of story.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Goobster
Posted by finallyhere
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
I wonder if you'd be allowed to bring your own formula in.
That is what I'd do if I ever forsaw it being an issue in the hospital.
Period, end of story.
You and I would. Many of us would. But many moms would not even think of that....or have the resources to do that.
But that would also mean baby has to be with mom 24/7 in the hospital room. I can't imagine the staff using someone else's formula, kwim, in the nursery. So now you add moms who are exhausted or in pain, who can't yet care for baby, who are pressured into keeping baby in their room to care for baby and supply baby their home stash of formula....and that to me is a pressure a new mom does NOT need.
What I would like to know is, will they tell new moms "If you say you may want to BF or def want to BF, then you will be denyed formula"? So I sort of feel women might be forced into BF if they push that issue simply b/c a woman was on the fence, or said yes but changed her mind.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
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Posted by finallyhere
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
I am over worked and under paid as well, but the expectation is I do my job. I also find it hard to believe that if it is in the med cabinet that that is 4 floors away. What are the bad consequence? babies will starve to death because the nurses are stretched soooooooooo thin it will be hours before they can provide patient care? That is an issue with our with out this ban.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Goobster
Posted by finallyhere
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
I wonder if you'd be allowed to bring your own formula in.
That is what I'd do if I ever forsaw it being an issue in the hospital.
Period, end of story.
You and I would. Many of us would. But that would mean baby has to be with mom 24/7 in the hospital room. I can't imagine the staff using someone else's formula, kwim, in the nursery. So now you add moms who are exhausted or in pain, who can't yet care for baby, who are pressured into keeping baby in their room to care for baby and supply baby their home stash of formula....and that to me is a pressure a new mom does NOT need.
I have been respectful, I have but this is making me So now new mom's will be pressured to be with their baby 24/7 because ffing mothers will bring in their own formula? Ummmmm isn't that what happens when a human is born? Isn't that the expectation...that the baby is w/mom? I know a lot of hospitals no longer have a normal nursery because the expectation is rooming in w/baby. What exactly do you purpose they do? You call the desk when you want the baby and hit the call light to send them away so you can not feel pressure and recover? I just don't know what you want?
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by Goobster
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Goobster
Posted by finallyhere
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
I wonder if you'd be allowed to bring your own formula in.
That is what I'd do if I ever forsaw it being an issue in the hospital.
Period, end of story.
You and I would. Many of us would. But that would mean baby has to be with mom 24/7 in the hospital room. I can't imagine the staff using someone else's formula, kwim, in the nursery. So now you add moms who are exhausted or in pain, who can't yet care for baby, who are pressured into keeping baby in their room to care for baby and supply baby their home stash of formula....and that to me is a pressure a new mom does NOT need.
I have been respectful, I have but this is making me So now new mom's will be pressured to be with their baby 24/7 because ffing mothers will bring in their own formula? Ummmmm isn't that what happens when a human is born? Isn't that the expectation...that the baby is w/mom? I know a lot of hospitals no longer have a normal nursery because the expectation is rooming in w/baby. What exactly do you purpose they do? You call the desk when you want the baby and hit the call light to send them away so you can not feel pressure and recover? I just don't know what you want?
Huh? So a woman who is bleeding profusely, who just had a c-section is not allowed to receive care? What if a woman is not well enough after having their child to take care of their child the first day after their surgery, delivery,etc?
I am referring to what was said above about bringing your own formula. I am quite sure the nursery would not feed a baby with formula that they did not supply.
And speaking for myself, there was NO way I would leave my child in my hospital room unattended whle I slept at night. No way, I would have NEVER slept with my hrs old baby unattended in my room. I think a woman who just had major surgery is entitled to rest and recover for just a bit.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Ummmmm isn't that what happens when a human is born? Isn't that the expectation...that the baby is w/mom?
Not overnight, it really depends on the hospital. After both my children's births, the nurses ENCOURAGED me to let them take the baby to the nursery overnight so that I could rest and recover. And let me tell you, I accepted their offer gladly. As one nurse said, I had countless sleepless nights ahead of me as a mom, I did not need to be a hero for the few nights I was in the hospital. So yes, I would have felt unduly pressured by the scenario the PP described.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by Goobster
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Goobster
Posted by finallyhere
unfortunately this will not be the case. I work in the nursery...what will happen is that the nurses will be over worked and will not have time to walk 4 floors below to the store room to get formula...the babies will have to wait. There are going to be some bad consequences for this..there is not enough staff to initiate this "ban"
Especially if they have to document formula in the manner that medications are documented. Chart it, take it out of a locked cabinet, etc.
I wonder if you'd be allowed to bring your own formula in.
That is what I'd do if I ever forsaw it being an issue in the hospital.
Period, end of story.
You and I would. Many of us would. But that would mean baby has to be with mom 24/7 in the hospital room. I can't imagine the staff using someone else's formula, kwim, in the nursery. So now you add moms who are exhausted or in pain, who can't yet care for baby, who are pressured into keeping baby in their room to care for baby and supply baby their home stash of formula....and that to me is a pressure a new mom does NOT need.
I have been respectful, I have but this is making me So now new mom's will be pressured to be with their baby 24/7 because ffing mothers will bring in their own formula? Ummmmm isn't that what happens when a human is born? Isn't that the expectation...that the baby is w/mom? I know a lot of hospitals no longer have a normal nursery because the expectation is rooming in w/baby. What exactly do you purpose they do? You call the desk when you want the baby and hit the call light to send them away so you can not feel pressure and recover? I just don't know what you want?
This is what I did.
I didn't want the baby in my room at night.
Sorry if that makes me a monster.
Or a bad mother.
I admit, I am far from mother of the year.
After DH left, they would take her to the nursery. And bring her back around 6 am.
And guess what?
It was my LAST two nights of sleep for almost a year.
So I dont' regret it one bit.
I know, I know.... I am selfish.
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| Posted 8/1/12 4:22 PM |
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Goobster
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Ummmmm isn't that what happens when a human is born? Isn't that the expectation...that the baby is w/mom?
Not overnight, it really depends on the hospital. After both my children's births, the nurses ENCOURAGED me to let them take the baby to the nursery overnight so that I could rest and recover. And let me tell you, I accepted their offer gladly. As one nurse said, I had countless sleepless nights ahead of me as a mom, I did not need to be a hero for the few nights I was in the hospital. So yes, I would have felt unduly pressured by the scenario the PP described.
Same with me, DD slept in the nursery every night. And the first day of my csection, there was no way I could care for my child and I didn't have family in my room with me (emergency csection). And my DH could not stay with me 24/7 so I was alone, disoriented and bleeding profusely.
She wound up going to NICU anyway....but I still would have needed the hospital to care for her. And the nights thereafter, I would have NEVER left her unattended in my room or I would not have slept. And having had major surgery, yeah, i think I had a right to sleep at night.
Message edited 8/1/2012 4:24:17 PM.
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| Posted 8/1/12 4:23 PM |
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MrsS2005
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by computergirl
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Ummmmm isn't that what happens when a human is born? Isn't that the expectation...that the baby is w/mom?
Not overnight, it really depends on the hospital. After both my children's births, the nurses ENCOURAGED me to let them take the baby to the nursery overnight so that I could rest and recover. And let me tell you, I accepted their offer gladly. As one nurse said, I had countless sleepless nights ahead of me as a mom, I did not need to be a hero for the few nights I was in the hospital. So yes, I would have felt unduly pressured by the scenario the PP described.
I don't see why someone should be forced to room with the baby at night regardless of the hospital's position on BFing. I delivered at a baby friendly hospital and no one ever gave me an issue about sending either DC to the nursery at night. I needed time to recover from the c-sections. Although I had an easier recovery the second time around, I wouldn't have felt comfortable having DS in the room with me all night long. It was still difficult moving around the first few days. The nurses brought the baby in when it was time to BF and when I wanted some rest, I called the nurse assigned to me to take him back to the nursery.
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| Posted 8/1/12 4:31 PM |
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computergirl
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Goobster
And having had major surgery, yeah, i think I had a right to sleep at night.
ITA. No surgery in the world is treated as casually as a C-section. Your abdomen and uterus are cut open, folks. You forget how much you use those core muscles till they burn every time you try to use them. Imagine a woman goes in the hospital for say, a hysterectomy-- within hours of getting out of recovery, they hand her a newborn baby and say "by the way, he'll be in your room overnight... you're responsible for caring for him if he needs to be fed or changed... good luck!".
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