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Diana712
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Re: One of my dog bit me
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by sleepie76
I'm sorry but this made me laugh. how hard do you think I'm pulling on the collar to restrain him ? I'm holding it, not choking him. He listens to me, knows commands. Holding the collar is just a reminder or additional restraint in case I think his instincts/desire are strong at that moment ( i.e. see a dog, squirrel and want to chase it/see it).
If you have to restrain your dog that strongly or always resort to physical, I think this comes back to a training issue. I have stayed out of this, but there are certain breeds of dogs that should never wear a collar. Some breeds are VERY susceptible to collapsed tracheas; mostly small dogs. This is from a Vet, who told me about it and the various breeds that can be affected after I rescued my mini-pin. He realised that he was improperly collared at one point and suffered from a collapsed trachea. It does not take much pressure, and in most cases the owner/handler does not even realise that the dog is injuring itself. It does not have to be a pull or a "choking" motion that does it either. Misplacing the wrong type of caller can do it. So the OP is not wrong when she made the original statement about collars being dangerous.
There are alternatives, arguably the most humane of which is a puppia harness. They are not for all dogs though, as dogs with longer fur/hair can get tangled. So if you have a dog that is sensitive to collar use, even at its most conservative, and has longer fur or hair, what do you do?
Also, there are breeds that are perfectly fine being picked up or held by their scruff past their puppy phase. Again, it depends on the breed.
Sorry i disagree some of what you wrote.. If your dog has a medical issue as far as being collar sensitive then of course you can not put one on him an pull him.. But a collar is a great training tool and should be placed above the trachea if thats the problem.. if i had a dog that didint listen with voice commands (which is my first suggestion to stop him) then I would learn how to properly put that collar on him so it would not affect his throat.. And there is no adult dog that is ok to be held pulled or grabbed by the scruff.. I read it in Ceasar Milan's How to be a pack leader.. Its not necessary.. There is proof that is was harmful in the fact the dog yelped and bit her.. There are many other ways to handle this.. The actual spot on the neck is right below his ears way up on the neck not near his trachea..
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