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pinkandblue
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Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
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Beth
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
hmmm... so she lied in the debate then?
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| Posted 10/21/08 9:04 AM |
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Kidsaplenty
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by Beth1210
hmmm... so she lied in the debate then?
What a shocker!
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| Posted 10/21/08 9:07 AM |
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Beth
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by greeneyes361708
Posted by Beth1210
hmmm... so she lied in the debate then?
What a shocker!
I was actually shocked at her answer in the debate
she was trying to appear more centered then
she scares the crap out of me for this reason
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| Posted 10/21/08 9:09 AM |
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CookiePuss
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by greeneyes361708
Posted by Beth1210
hmmm... so she lied in the debate then?
What a shocker!
Not saying I agree or disagree but she stated in the debate that she would support SOME legal protection for gay unions; not really the same as saying she supported gay marriage.
I'm not surprised that she doesn't agree with McCain as she is much more "conservative" then he is. I also don't think that a President and VP should agree on all topics as a different opinion can lead to a healthy debate.
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| Posted 10/21/08 9:16 AM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
I heard this this morning. it seems she speaks her true mind when talking to the more conservative audiences, and when she is speaking to the general public she tries to hide what she really thinks.
I don't think she lied in the debate though, I believe she said something to the effect of she was "tolerant" of civil unions but not gay marriage.
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by SweetTooth
I heard this this morning. it seems she speaks her true mind when talking to the more conservative audiences, and when she is speaking to the general public she tries to hide what she really thinks.
I don't think she lied in the debate though, I believe she said something to the effect of she was "tolerant" of civil unions but not gay marriage.
didn't biden say the same thing though?
he said that there would be full legal protection, but that he did not support it.
or did i hear wrong?
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MrsERod
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by SweetTooth
I heard this this morning. it seems she speaks her true mind when talking to the more conservative audiences, and when she is speaking to the general public she tries to hide what she really thinks.
i tend to agree...
i've been doing my own research, trying to find out more about the McCain/Palin camp -
this is interesting - i'd like to know how long ago this interview took place --- ps, i really wish they didn't use that background music, because it just adds unnecessary drama to the clip
also, does anyone know the story behind mccain and this WSJ reporter?? why is he so dismissive to her?
i'm sincerely curious about this....
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
I don't think she said she was OK to gay marriage in the debate. She was talking about protection and health coverage. Not marriage!
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SweetTooth
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
Posted by SweetTooth
I heard this this morning. it seems she speaks her true mind when talking to the more conservative audiences, and when she is speaking to the general public she tries to hide what she really thinks.
I don't think she lied in the debate though, I believe she said something to the effect of she was "tolerant" of civil unions but not gay marriage.
didn't biden say the same thing though?
he said that there would be full legal protection, but that he did not support it.
or did i hear wrong?
Yes, he did say that. He said he did not support gay marriage.
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evnme
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
Posted by SweetTooth
I heard this this morning. it seems she speaks her true mind when talking to the more conservative audiences, and when she is speaking to the general public she tries to hide what she really thinks.
I don't think she lied in the debate though, I believe she said something to the effect of she was "tolerant" of civil unions but not gay marriage.
didn't biden say the same thing though?
he said that there would be full legal protection, but that he did not support it.
or did i hear wrong?
Yes, he did say that. He said he did not support gay marriage.
yes biden did say that. he also said in that debate that FDR went on TV in 1929.
this week he said this: biden's recent statement
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| Posted 10/21/08 9:54 AM |
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MrsERod
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by evnme
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
Posted by SweetTooth
I heard this this morning. it seems she speaks her true mind when talking to the more conservative audiences, and when she is speaking to the general public she tries to hide what she really thinks.
I don't think she lied in the debate though, I believe she said something to the effect of she was "tolerant" of civil unions but not gay marriage.
didn't biden say the same thing though?
he said that there would be full legal protection, but that he did not support it.
or did i hear wrong?
Yes, he did say that. He said he did not support gay marriage.
yes biden did say that. he also said in that debate that FDR went on TV in 1929.
this week he said this: biden's recent statement
i don't understand what's wrong with what he said here... 
To Gird Your Loins
And it came to pass in the mean while, that the heaven was black with clouds and wind, and there was a great rain. And Ahab rode, and went to Jezreel.
-- I Kings 18: 45-46 (KJV)
Although "to gird your loins" sounds racy to the modern reader, all Elijah is doing is pulling in his pants. "Gird" -- actually "gird up" in the original -- means "tighten with a belt" or "put on a girdle." Elijah does not, as modern usage might suggest, fortify his thighs -- "loin" may rhyme with "groin," but this sense is relatively new.
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snowflake08
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by QuoteTheRaven424
Posted by SweetTooth
I heard this this morning. it seems she speaks her true mind when talking to the more conservative audiences, and when she is speaking to the general public she tries to hide what she really thinks.
I don't think she lied in the debate though, I believe she said something to the effect of she was "tolerant" of civil unions but not gay marriage.
didn't biden say the same thing though?
he said that there would be full legal protection, but that he did not support it.
or did i hear wrong?
Yes, he did say that. He said he did not support gay marriage.
Yes he did (Biden). I was actually surprised at that. I DO support gay marriage as I believe that what 2 adults do that doesnt hurt others is their own business.
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Ophelia
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by MrsERod
i don't understand what's wrong with what he said here...
 that's cuz there is nothing wrong with it.
he is speaking the TRUTH 
I don't see a problem with it.
I don't see a problem with him pointing out the future REAL possibilities in the same breath as pointing out that Obama is COMPLETELY strong enough and ready for.
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Ophelia
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
since everyone is curious, this is what he said
he said the definition of "marriage" should be left up to religion.
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MrsRivera
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
I don't know...I really get the sense that she only says what her particular audience wants to hear. THIS is what scares the crap outta me.
I also get the odd feeling that ALL of her answers are extremely rehearsed, as evidenced by the fact that she couldn't even name one particular newspaper that she has read to keep up with world events.
Just scary.
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pinkandblue
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by MrsRivera
I don't know...I really get the sense that she only says what her particular audience wants to hear. THIS is what scares the crap outta me.
I also get the odd feeling that ALL of her answers are extremely rehearsed, as evidenced by the fact that she couldn't even name one particular newspaper that she has read to keep up with world events.
Just scary.
I agree...I cringe when I think that this lady MAY be the vice-president...cringe !!!!! 
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CookiePuss
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by MrsRivera
I don't know...I really get the sense that she only says what her particular audience wants to hear. THIS is what scares the crap outta me.
I also get the odd feeling that ALL of her answers are extremely rehearsed, as evidenced by the fact that she couldn't even name one particular newspaper that she has read to keep up with world events.
Just scary.
In this particular incident, I think just the opposite. I was surprised that Obama/Biden were opposed constitutional revision that would allow same sex marriages. I think of the position to of revision as a "liberal" and/or democratic ideal.
As far as the newspaper thing, I really don't put much weight to that as I can't believe if she really wanted to, she couldn't have named one publication. I think it's weird she didn't answer but I don't think it holds much weight into any insight about her.
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MrsM-6-7-08
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
"I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said. She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families."
This statement upsets me, because it hits close to home, a few years ago DH and I attended his cousins wedding. 2 females, it was a beautiful wedding, in which his entire family attended. his cousins father officiated the ceremony i cried, because it was so beautiful.
They just had a baby, and are wonderful parents, loving, supportive, and just incredible.
I believe that what makes a strong family is the love and support of everyone close to you.
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pinkandblue
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by stinkysmom80
I believe that what makes a strong family is the love and support of everyone close to you.
absolutely 
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CookiePuss
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by stinkysmom80
"I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said. She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families."
If I was understanding correctly, both Palin and Biden stated that they were opposed to amending the constitutional definition of marriage but both supported the definition in legal terms that would grant ownership of property, tax code, etc.
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by shamrock124
Posted by stinkysmom80
"I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said. She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families."
If I was understanding correctly, both Palin and Biden stated that they were opposed to amending the constitutional definition of marriage but both supported the definition in legal terms that would grant ownership of property, tax code, etc.
This is what I understood too and agree with.
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by 5ofClubs
Posted by shamrock124
Posted by stinkysmom80
"I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said. She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families."
If I was understanding correctly, both Palin and Biden stated that they were opposed to amending the constitutional definition of marriage but both supported the definition in legal terms that would grant ownership of property, tax code, etc.
This is what I understood too and agree with.
That's how I understood it as well.
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MrsM-6-7-08
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by 5ofClubs
Posted by shamrock124
Posted by stinkysmom80
"I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said. She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families."
If I was understanding correctly, both Palin and Biden stated that they were opposed to amending the constitutional definition of marriage but both supported the definition in legal terms that would grant ownership of property, tax code, etc.
This is what I understood too and agree with.
That's how I understood it as well.
So are you saying i am understanding the statement incorrectly?
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bluegreen08
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Re: Palin VS. McCain on Gay Marriage
As far as Biden goes... I think there are too many people against gay marriage for him to come out and say he supports it (I'd love him to say he supports it, but understand he needs to remain electable) but Obama/Biden will promote policies that are much more GLBT friendly because they agree in equal rights with respect to healthcare, etc which to me is a start.
I think Palin was trying to appear more centered than she really is, she is much more radical than McCain and I thought I read something about her being associated with a church that tries to convert GLBT people back to being straight.
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