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FirstMate
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Re: Play dates
My kids have been playing with the same 3 kids this whole time. They have both indoor and outdoor play dates with them. No masks. My boys are not allowed to play with anyone else.
BUT as someone said, it doesn't matter how tight you keep your bubble or how careful you are. One of the moms was exposed at work and now has it. Luckily we hadn't seen them for a little while but that was pure luck.
My boys are also playing sports...indoor lacrosse is it right now. In the fall it was soccer and lacrosse.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
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Re: Play dates
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Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
Yes, yes, yes and what happened to anyone having the common cold or the flu? It is all covid and now many have it turn into pneumonia.
I actually read someone say that no one is getting a cold or the flu because masks work but they get covid because it spreads faster. Ummmm what?????
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Hofstra26
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Re: Play dates
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
The thing that scares me most about COVID isn't so much having it or even dying as many do recover. What freaks me out is the number of people who are still having long term health effects after having it, things such as breathing issues, fatigue, smell and taste not returning, persistent cough etc. It scares me to think that healthy adults could get COVID and although they recover from the virus, they now suffer from secondary health issues.
At this point I am chomping at the bit to get the vaccine so if God forbid I get it, I will hopefully bounce back faster and maybe not suffer with issues after. Getting an appointment right now is IMPOSSIBLE. Hoping the vaccine distribution starts to ramp up in the coming weeks. 
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Re: Play dates
Posted by JennP
Nothing indoors, which means it's been a little boring for my 10 yo since it's been cold but yesterday he did go to his friend's house down the block to use their backyard trampoline. They didn't go inside and they wore their masks.
He also does baseball and they have winter workouts right now. I don't love it, but this is his thing and he has to do something. DH helps run everything which makes me feel better about everything because we're on the same page. The kids keep their masks on.
It seems like everyone in our circle is more or less on the same page because no one is asking or offering.
When things were looser in the summer and early fall, there was one family we avoided because we knew they didn't believe in masks. I did feel bad for the children but my family's safety comes first.
I could have written this. Virtual only for playdates, but outdoor, well supervised activities. And we can't afford to be around people who want to selectively process facts and rationalize things to the point that they pose a danger to others. If a mask is that much of a problem for a family, we have to pass.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
The thing that scares me most about COVID isn't so much having it or even dying as many do recover. What freaks me out is the number of people who are still having long term health effects after having it, things such as breathing issues, fatigue, smell and taste not returning, persistent cough etc. It scares me to think that healthy adults could get COVID and although they recover from the virus, they now suffer from secondary health issues.
At this point I am chomping at the bit to get the vaccine so if God forbid I get it, I will hopefully bounce back faster and maybe not suffer with issues after. Getting an appointment right now is IMPOSSIBLE. Hoping the vaccine distribution starts to ramp up in the coming weeks.
This exactly. There are people who were healthy who have strokes and embolisms/aneurysms after even mild covid because it causes problems that are not immediately visible. And the streets and public places are full of people who should be quarantining and/or wearing a mask, but care only about themselves.
When we and history look back on this, we will see all of the unnecessary damage from the rationalizing, minimizing, and selfishness. I wish all who are suffering a speedy and full recovery and more vaccines and decency for our society.
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NervousNell
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Re: Play dates
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
The thing that scares me most about COVID isn't so much having it or even dying as many do recover. What freaks me out is the number of people who are still having long term health effects after having it, things such as breathing issues, fatigue, smell and taste not returning, persistent cough etc. It scares me to think that healthy adults could get COVID and although they recover from the virus, they now suffer from secondary health issues.
At this point I am chomping at the bit to get the vaccine so if God forbid I get it, I will hopefully bounce back faster and maybe not suffer with issues after. Getting an appointment right now is IMPOSSIBLE. Hoping the vaccine distribution starts to ramp up in the coming weeks.
I'm not even close to being qualified to get it yet- how are you even able to try to make an appt ?
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NervousNell
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Re: Play dates
Posted by seaside
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
The thing that scares me most about COVID isn't so much having it or even dying as many do recover. What freaks me out is the number of people who are still having long term health effects after having it, things such as breathing issues, fatigue, smell and taste not returning, persistent cough etc. It scares me to think that healthy adults could get COVID and although they recover from the virus, they now suffer from secondary health issues.
At this point I am chomping at the bit to get the vaccine so if God forbid I get it, I will hopefully bounce back faster and maybe not suffer with issues after. Getting an appointment right now is IMPOSSIBLE. Hoping the vaccine distribution starts to ramp up in the coming weeks.
This exactly. There are people who were healthy who have strokes and embolisms/aneurysms after even mild covid because it causes problems that are not immediately visible. And the streets and public places are full of people who should be quarantining and/or wearing a mask, but care only about themselves.
When we and history look back on this, we will see all of the unnecessary damage from the rationalizing, minimizing, and selfishness. I wish all who are suffering a speedy and full recovery and more vaccines and decency for our society.
Yes history History. History.
First it was science and now it's history.
We know, we know. You must be a history major!
Nobody is rationalizing anything.
If you can get the virus multiple times, how will the vaccine work?
If you can still get Covid with the vaccine how do you know you won't suffer all these horrific long term guaranteed to happen events?
How do you know the long term effects of Covid aren't' the same as the long term effects of the vaccine?
What if? What if?
So what's the solution? Hide forever? How will we see all those Broadway shows again at this rate???
Message edited 1/18/2021 3:41:27 PM.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Play dates
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
The thing that scares me most about COVID isn't so much having it or even dying as many do recover. What freaks me out is the number of people who are still having long term health effects after having it, things such as breathing issues, fatigue, smell and taste not returning, persistent cough etc. It scares me to think that healthy adults could get COVID and although they recover from the virus, they now suffer from secondary health issues.
At this point I am chomping at the bit to get the vaccine so if God forbid I get it, I will hopefully bounce back faster and maybe not suffer with issues after. Getting an appointment right now is IMPOSSIBLE. Hoping the vaccine distribution starts to ramp up in the coming weeks.
I'm not even close to being qualified to get it yet- how are you even able to try to make an appt ?
In NJ they just opened it up to anyone between 18 and 64 if you have pre-existing conditions. I had gestational diabetes with both pregnancies so now I developed Type 2, my A1C is low and my sugars are controlled but technically I qualify. However, there isn't an appointment to be found. Grrrrrr
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NervousNell
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Re: Play dates
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
The thing that scares me most about COVID isn't so much having it or even dying as many do recover. What freaks me out is the number of people who are still having long term health effects after having it, things such as breathing issues, fatigue, smell and taste not returning, persistent cough etc. It scares me to think that healthy adults could get COVID and although they recover from the virus, they now suffer from secondary health issues.
At this point I am chomping at the bit to get the vaccine so if God forbid I get it, I will hopefully bounce back faster and maybe not suffer with issues after. Getting an appointment right now is IMPOSSIBLE. Hoping the vaccine distribution starts to ramp up in the coming weeks.
I'm not even close to being qualified to get it yet- how are you even able to try to make an appt ?
In NJ they just opened it up to anyone between 18 and 64 if you have pre-existing conditions. I had gestational diabetes with both pregnancies so now I developed Type 2, my A1C is low and my sugars are controlled but technically I qualify. However, there isn't an appointment to be found. Grrrrrr
Ah ok. Well hopefully they get more doses and more vaccine sites up and running soon.
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Hofstra26
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Re: Play dates
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
The thing that scares me most about COVID isn't so much having it or even dying as many do recover. What freaks me out is the number of people who are still having long term health effects after having it, things such as breathing issues, fatigue, smell and taste not returning, persistent cough etc. It scares me to think that healthy adults could get COVID and although they recover from the virus, they now suffer from secondary health issues.
At this point I am chomping at the bit to get the vaccine so if God forbid I get it, I will hopefully bounce back faster and maybe not suffer with issues after. Getting an appointment right now is IMPOSSIBLE. Hoping the vaccine distribution starts to ramp up in the coming weeks.
I'm not even close to being qualified to get it yet- how are you even able to try to make an appt ?
In NJ they just opened it up to anyone between 18 and 64 if you have pre-existing conditions. I had gestational diabetes with both pregnancies so now I developed Type 2, my A1C is low and my sugars are controlled but technically I qualify. However, there isn't an appointment to be found. Grrrrrr
Ah ok. Well hopefully they get more doses and more vaccine sites up and running soon.
Fingers crossed. I am still a little nervous about the vaccine but at this point I feel like I will do anything to end this. I am SO tired of living this crazy life. I miss normal life SO much.
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Budjeg11
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Play dates
I have not allowed indoor playdates since covid nor have I allowed indoor activities. We have done outdoor sports and playdates and activities, only. i do not believe in "pods" unless every single person in the pod is completeley quarantined from anyone else besides those in the pod. So , I would not feel personally insulted if i were in a pod and i was subsequently excluded from it because my child participated in other activities. That being said if other members of the pod are also doing activities or working outside the home etc etc and they sinled out my child then that would upset me.
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JennP
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Re: Play dates
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by seaside
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
The thing that scares me most about COVID isn't so much having it or even dying as many do recover. What freaks me out is the number of people who are still having long term health effects after having it, things such as breathing issues, fatigue, smell and taste not returning, persistent cough etc. It scares me to think that healthy adults could get COVID and although they recover from the virus, they now suffer from secondary health issues.
At this point I am chomping at the bit to get the vaccine so if God forbid I get it, I will hopefully bounce back faster and maybe not suffer with issues after. Getting an appointment right now is IMPOSSIBLE. Hoping the vaccine distribution starts to ramp up in the coming weeks.
This exactly. There are people who were healthy who have strokes and embolisms/aneurysms after even mild covid because it causes problems that are not immediately visible. And the streets and public places are full of people who should be quarantining and/or wearing a mask, but care only about themselves.
When we and history look back on this, we will see all of the unnecessary damage from the rationalizing, minimizing, and selfishness. I wish all who are suffering a speedy and full recovery and more vaccines and decency for our society.
Yes history History. History.
First it was science and now it's history.
We know, we know. You must be a history major!
Nobody is rationalizing anything.
If you can get the virus multiple times, how will the vaccine work?
If you can still get Covid with the vaccine how do you know you won't suffer all these horrific long term guaranteed to happen events?
How do you know the long term effects of Covid aren't' the same as the long term effects of the vaccine?
What if? What if?
So what's the solution? Hide forever? How will we see all those Broadway shows again at this rate???
The answers/responses/explanations to your questions have been posted in a few different places.
The same exponential forces that cause the spread will help contract the spread - or at least, the illness from the spread - after the vaccine is implemented on a widespread basis. So even if it's not perfect, it will be much better. We can at least contain and minimize.
No one is saying to hide forever. I can only speak for myself but with people getting vaccinated as we speak it makes sense to wait a few months to try to resume normal life and to see a light at the end of the tunnel.
I don't know what is so complicated about that.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
Here's a study that shows that COVID reinfection in the few months following COVID is extremely unlikely so those that are already stressed out don't have to add another thing to their list:
COVID reinfection very unlikely
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I feel similarly as we were a super careful family and got it notwithstanding. I too try to rationalize and find a silver lining by saying well at least it was mild perhaps if we got it another time or another way it would have been worse. However, i think that the way you phrased your initial post-- sounded like you were happy that you got covid and were minimizing the potential health effects, including long term effects, for many. Your post didnt sound like it was looking for empathy or compassion though which is likely why you got the responses you got. I do hope that your family gets through unscathed.
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Re: Play dates
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Posted by LastLightGlow
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Posted by lululu
We stopped playdates about a month ago leading up to Christmas. My daughter does competitive gymnastics so she is there for about 9 hours a week. We also ski on weekends and there is one family that we spend time indoors with.
My husband has covid now and I am pretty sure that I will test positive on the test I took yesterday because I am exhibiting mild symptoms but I haven't left the house (other than to test) since last Tuesday. So even being relatively careful we did still take chances and here we are....
I understand being cautious because the rates are so high right now but I have to say this couldn't have been better timing for us to have to quarantine for multiple reasons and I have wanted to just get Covid out of the way since the get go. My husband has it way worse than me and even he is not very ill. I understand that everyone's experience is different, but I am willing to bet our experience with mild to moderate symptoms makes up 95% plus of the cases for middle aged healthy people.
You mention "just get COVID out of the way" just because you have it now doesn't mean you won't get it again. Especially now that there are diff strains. Not really following your mentality?
My husband has been living in intense fear of this virus that for 99.99% of people in our age group with no underlying health conditions will be just fine. Getting Covid and seeing that it is not an automatic death sentence has changed this perspective. It's like having a fear of flying and finally getting on the plane and realizing that the odds are with you that you won't crash.
Also, you mention the new strands but they haven't said that those who had prior strands will not be protected from the new strands with the antibodies they already have. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
And, the likelihood of getting it again in the next year or so is EXTREMELY unlikely. Yes, it does happen, but very rarely. Just like you don't hear about people getting the flu two times in one year, I am sure it happens, but you don't live in fear of getting this again for the imminent future.
So that's my mentality. You do you, I'll do me. I don't ever ask anyone to agree with or understand my perspective.
I wanted to mentioned that of a hospital worker group I work with that was initially infected in March, many had tested positive again in the fall. Thankfully most only had mild symptoms. One colleague has tested positive for the third time and this time was the most severe and he was admitted to the hospital. I would not write off reinfection as a risk particularly with the new strains that arise.
That concerns me then with how a vaccine will be effective at keeping us safe
Right so nothing is going to keep us safe... So yes I am happy that I got a very mild case that might offer me some protection against getting it again no matter how small that protection might be. That's how I am looking at it....
Also, I know many people who were infected in the spring because half my town already had it. None have tested positive again. Perhaps the people in healthcare are more at risk for reinfection because they are around people with Covid a lot more than the general population.
I agree, it's probably rare. It happens, but it's probably rare. I also agree with you that if nothing is going to keep us safe, what are we to do? Hide forever?
I try to live, be careful, and do my best.
This can't go on forever.
If it does I'll take my chances with it. Life isn't really living if it's like this indefinitely.
I agree with this. My family just got over having covid. I will follow the rules but I am definitely less concerned at this point on getting it again. I feel more comfortable going to places like kalahari cause we know have had it. I was going to go before we had it but I definitely feel at little more at ease going now!
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| Posted 1/18/21 4:55 PM |
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Re: Play dates
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
There is this strange, unwritten rule that states that you must never, ever, admit that you're not absolutely terrified of covid.
The way some healthy, young people talk about it is so completely detached from the reality, but this is where we are at right now.
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| Posted 1/18/21 5:04 PM |
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Re: Play dates
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
There is this strange, unwritten rule that states that you must never, ever, admit that you're not absolutely terrified of covid.
The way some healthy, young people talk about it is so completely detached from the reality, but this is where we are at right now.
It seems from people saying they had it, they were very careful. So all the people who are not careful, go out to restaurants, seeing other people are not getting it but the ones not going out and wearing masks almost 24/7 are?
This all makes no sense. Just as bad as no one is getting a cold or flu but are ONLY getting covid.
The symptoms for a cold, flu, pneumonia, other virus' and covid are all quite similar as covid is a coronavirus. I still think more studies need to go out if any of these symptoms can be shown to be covid as they are the same. I am sure I will be attacked that I don't believe the scientists and that is so untrue as I have had the common cold, the flu when I was younger and pneumonia twice as an adult. I also think I might have had symptoms of this before it was announced as I lost taste and smell for a longer period of time. I usually lose it a day or two but this was over a week and thought it was kind of odd.
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| Posted 1/18/21 5:12 PM |
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Re: Play dates
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
There is this strange, unwritten rule that states that you must never, ever, admit that you're not absolutely terrified of covid.
The way some healthy, young people talk about it is so completely detached from the reality, but this is where we are at right now.
I think it's because it's new and it just surged so quickly. And then to see researchers unsure of how it's spread in the beginning, or the lasting effects... Anything unknown can be pretty scary.
I still think the fact that 400k in the US are now dead in less than a year (and 2 million globally) from this is startling. I personally can't detach from that.
People will argue that people die for a variety of reasons each year - car accidents, fires, cancer - I see that point. But this is now another added tab on the "ways you may die list." I like to see as less tabs as possible. 
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| Posted 1/18/21 5:14 PM |
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Re: Play dates
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
There is this strange, unwritten rule that states that you must never, ever, admit that you're not absolutely terrified of covid.
The way some healthy, young people talk about it is so completely detached from the reality, but this is where we are at right now.
I think it's because it's new and it just surged so quickly. And then to see researchers unsure of how it's spread in the beginning, or the lasting effects... Anything unknown can be pretty scary.
I still think the fact that 400k in the US are now dead in less than a year (and 2 million globally) from this is startling. I personally can't detach from that.
People will argue that people die for a variety of reasons each year - car accidents, fires, cancer - I see that point. But this is now another added tab on the "ways you may die list." I like to see as less tabs as possible.
How many are listed as covid deaths though that are not correct? Ones that they were dying, sadly of something else and maybe got covid?
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| Posted 1/18/21 5:20 PM |
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Re: Play dates
Fully agree with BFNY and JennP. This isn't hard. No one I know is hiding--we are all living and enjoying life--looking forward to resuming ALL activities soon.
Some of us "hide" online by staying really anonymous because the internet has become such a toxic cesspool of distortions, tantrums, and abuse. Who has the bandwidth to engage with that or have who or whatever is behind that know anything meaningful about them?
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| Posted 1/18/21 5:29 PM |
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Pomegranate5
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Member since 2/11 4798 total posts
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Re: Play dates
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
There is this strange, unwritten rule that states that you must never, ever, admit that you're not absolutely terrified of covid.
The way some healthy, young people talk about it is so completely detached from the reality, but this is where we are at right now.
I think it's because it's new and it just surged so quickly. And then to see researchers unsure of how it's spread in the beginning, or the lasting effects... Anything unknown can be pretty scary.
I still think the fact that 400k in the US are now dead in less than a year (and 2 million globally) from this is startling. I personally can't detach from that.
People will argue that people die for a variety of reasons each year - car accidents, fires, cancer - I see that point. But this is now another added tab on the "ways you may die list." I like to see as less tabs as possible.
That's fine. Everyone knows this is serious. No one is out there trying to catch it.
But people should also be allowed to say that they're not worried or scared of getting it and not get a lecture about how they're downplaying it, lacking compassion, or denying science (which is happening on this very thread).
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| Posted 1/18/21 5:33 PM |
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by lululu
We stopped playdates about a month ago leading up to Christmas. My daughter does competitive gymnastics so she is there for about 9 hours a week. We also ski on weekends and there is one family that we spend time indoors with.
My husband has covid now and I am pretty sure that I will test positive on the test I took yesterday because I am exhibiting mild symptoms but I haven't left the house (other than to test) since last Tuesday. So even being relatively careful we did still take chances and here we are....
I understand being cautious because the rates are so high right now but I have to say this couldn't have been better timing for us to have to quarantine for multiple reasons and I have wanted to just get Covid out of the way since the get go. My husband has it way worse than me and even he is not very ill. I understand that everyone's experience is different, but I am willing to bet our experience with mild to moderate symptoms makes up 95% plus of the cases for middle aged healthy people.
You mention "just get COVID out of the way" just because you have it now doesn't mean you won't get it again. Especially now that there are diff strains. Not really following your mentality?
My husband has been living in intense fear of this virus that for 99.99% of people in our age group with no underlying health conditions will be just fine. Getting Covid and seeing that it is not an automatic death sentence has changed this perspective. It's like having a fear of flying and finally getting on the plane and realizing that the odds are with you that you won't crash.
Also, you mention the new strands but they haven't said that those who had prior strands will not be protected from the new strands with the antibodies they already have. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
And, the likelihood of getting it again in the next year or so is EXTREMELY unlikely. Yes, it does happen, but very rarely. Just like you don't hear about people getting the flu two times in one year, I am sure it happens, but you don't live in fear of getting this again for the imminent future.
So that's my mentality. You do you, I'll do me. I don't ever ask anyone to agree with or understand my perspective.
You've made it clear you don't care or really take this seriously , so I know you don't care about my 2 cents but you shouldn't be so cavalier. TWO people in my office have had it twice. For one of them the Second time was much worse and he was hospitalized for almost a month. That's 2 people in an office of 23, so not extremely unlikely. But of course you do you.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
There is this strange, unwritten rule that states that you must never, ever, admit that you're not absolutely terrified of covid.
The way some healthy, young people talk about it is so completely detached from the reality, but this is where we are at right now.
I think it's because it's new and it just surged so quickly. And then to see researchers unsure of how it's spread in the beginning, or the lasting effects... Anything unknown can be pretty scary.
I still think the fact that 400k in the US are now dead in less than a year (and 2 million globally) from this is startling. I personally can't detach from that.
People will argue that people die for a variety of reasons each year - car accidents, fires, cancer - I see that point. But this is now another added tab on the "ways you may die list." I like to see as less tabs as possible.
That's fine. Everyone knows this is serious. No one is out there trying to catch it.
But people should also be allowed to say that they're not worried or scared of getting it and not get a lecture about how they're downplaying it, lacking compassion, or denying science (which is happening on this very thread).
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| Posted 1/18/21 5:40 PM |
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soontobemommyof2
My boys...my everything <3
Member since 4/15 3635 total posts
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Re: Play dates
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by lululu
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I have never seen more negativity about ANY disease, including ones that are much, much, much more fatal.
It's really a bizarre psychological phenomenon.
It's like people have lost their minds.
So so so many people have recovered and are fine. But you don't hear about those. You hear about the rarer cases.
Nobody thinks about that though.
All doom and gloom.
Two words...ingrained fear.
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| Posted 1/18/21 5:47 PM |
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soontobemommyof2
My boys...my everything <3
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
Here's a study that shows that COVID reinfection in the few months following COVID is extremely unlikely so those that are already stressed out don't have to add another thing to their list:
COVID reinfection very unlikely
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
Luckily more studies about immune memory (through natural exposure) are being done. Those mighty B cells do indeed have great memory 
Good News: Natural Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, Study Suggests
Immunological memory to SARS-CoV-2 assessed for up to 8 months after infection
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