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Re: Play dates
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We stopped playdates about a month ago leading up to Christmas. My daughter does competitive gymnastics so she is there for about 9 hours a week. We also ski on weekends and there is one family that we spend time indoors with.
My husband has covid now and I am pretty sure that I will test positive on the test I took yesterday because I am exhibiting mild symptoms but I haven't left the house (other than to test) since last Tuesday. So even being relatively careful we did still take chances and here we are....
I understand being cautious because the rates are so high right now but I have to say this couldn't have been better timing for us to have to quarantine for multiple reasons and I have wanted to just get Covid out of the way since the get go. My husband has it way worse than me and even he is not very ill. I understand that everyone's experience is different, but I am willing to bet our experience with mild to moderate symptoms makes up 95% plus of the cases for middle aged healthy people.
You mention "just get COVID out of the way" just because you have it now doesn't mean you won't get it again. Especially now that there are diff strains. Not really following your mentality?
My husband has been living in intense fear of this virus that for 99.99% of people in our age group with no underlying health conditions will be just fine. Getting Covid and seeing that it is not an automatic death sentence has changed this perspective. It's like having a fear of flying and finally getting on the plane and realizing that the odds are with you that you won't crash.
Also, you mention the new strands but they haven't said that those who had prior strands will not be protected from the new strands with the antibodies they already have. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
And, the likelihood of getting it again in the next year or so is EXTREMELY unlikely. Yes, it does happen, but very rarely. Just like you don't hear about people getting the flu two times in one year, I am sure it happens, but you don't live in fear of getting this again for the imminent future.
So that's my mentality. You do you, I'll do me. I don't ever ask anyone to agree with or understand my perspective.
You've made it clear you don't care or really take this seriously , so I know you don't care about my 2 cents but you shouldn't be so cavalier. TWO people in my office have had it twice. For one of them the Second time was much worse and he was hospitalized for almost a month. That's 2 people in an office of 23, so not extremely unlikely. But of course you do you.
I saw this article the other day (from Yahoo, but originally from the Telegraph):
https://www.yahoo.com/news/almost-third-recovered-covid-patients-180255388.html
I’m not terrified of getting it; there’s really nothing I can do if I get it. But I don’t like the unknowns of the after effects. I stay in, but there is nowhere to go under full lockdown anyway. I do milk my trips to the supermarket, though. I occasionally see friends, but the situation is pretty serious here and they just discovered a new variant (Bavarian variant) about an hour away from me. The numbers are going down and they just introduced a new regulation that you must wear FFP2/N95/KN95 masks here, so that’s a bit more secure, I guess.
My next “play date”  is at the dentist. I have to go because I have a problem with a tooth.
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Re: Play dates
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Here's a study that shows that COVID reinfection in the few months following COVID is extremely unlikely so those that are already stressed out don't have to add another thing to their list:
COVID reinfection very unlikely
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I feel similarly as we were a super careful family and got it notwithstanding. I too try to rationalize and find a silver lining by saying well at least it was mild perhaps if we got it another time or another way it would have been worse. However, i think that the way you phrased your initial post-- sounded like you were happy that you got covid and were minimizing the potential health effects, including long term effects, for many. Your post didnt sound like it was looking for empathy or compassion though which is likely why you got the responses you got. I do hope that your family gets through unscathed.
I am a glass half full type of eternal optimist. I found out from an early age that no good comes of endlessly worrying about possibilities that may or may not happen. And this is because I spent years worrying that my father would die of a heart attack - I lost sleep over it, countless nights... And then he died anyway, when I was 22. This is a very personal share for me on here but I feel the need to because while I am trying to read the posts in order I did catch a glimpse of a post later saying it never seems that I took this seriously. I have taken this very seriously however, I never spend my time worrying about the what-ifs. I live in the present and I deal with things as they come. That is not to say that I don't take precautions or that I am anti mask, anti science, non vaxxer etc etc etc. While we have continued to live our lives through this pandamic we have done it completely within the rules set up by the state, local and federal guidelines. I think anyone will be hard pressed to find a post on here where I seem to not take this seriously, that I thought it was a hoax or anything of that nature. I have expressed compassion for small business owners and other families that are probably desperately struggling with our complete economic shut down and I do believe things need to be open with precautions. That doesn't mean I don't take things seriously.
All I am saying is, someone says their family has covid but at least the positive is that we will have protective antibodies, and someone has to come back and try to negate that. It's totally unnecessary. And if you want to point out that it's possible because you think you are actually being helpful there is a better way to state it. Such as: So sorry you are going thru this, just still be careful as I know a handful of people who have contracted covid for a second time.
Anyway, if I didn't have so much time on my hands while being stuck in the house I don't even think I would bother explaining all of this because I am sure someone will pick it apart and misconstrue it.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by jlm2008
Posted by lululu
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by lululu
We stopped playdates about a month ago leading up to Christmas. My daughter does competitive gymnastics so she is there for about 9 hours a week. We also ski on weekends and there is one family that we spend time indoors with.
My husband has covid now and I am pretty sure that I will test positive on the test I took yesterday because I am exhibiting mild symptoms but I haven't left the house (other than to test) since last Tuesday. So even being relatively careful we did still take chances and here we are....
I understand being cautious because the rates are so high right now but I have to say this couldn't have been better timing for us to have to quarantine for multiple reasons and I have wanted to just get Covid out of the way since the get go. My husband has it way worse than me and even he is not very ill. I understand that everyone's experience is different, but I am willing to bet our experience with mild to moderate symptoms makes up 95% plus of the cases for middle aged healthy people.
You mention "just get COVID out of the way" just because you have it now doesn't mean you won't get it again. Especially now that there are diff strains. Not really following your mentality?
My husband has been living in intense fear of this virus that for 99.99% of people in our age group with no underlying health conditions will be just fine. Getting Covid and seeing that it is not an automatic death sentence has changed this perspective. It's like having a fear of flying and finally getting on the plane and realizing that the odds are with you that you won't crash.
Also, you mention the new strands but they haven't said that those who had prior strands will not be protected from the new strands with the antibodies they already have. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
And, the likelihood of getting it again in the next year or so is EXTREMELY unlikely. Yes, it does happen, but very rarely. Just like you don't hear about people getting the flu two times in one year, I am sure it happens, but you don't live in fear of getting this again for the imminent future.
So that's my mentality. You do you, I'll do me. I don't ever ask anyone to agree with or understand my perspective.
You've made it clear you don't care or really take this seriously , so I know you don't care about my 2 cents but you shouldn't be so cavalier. TWO people in my office have had it twice. For one of them the Second time was much worse and he was hospitalized for almost a month. That's 2 people in an office of 23, so not extremely unlikely. But of course you do you.
Because I have disagreed with you on certain things in the past does not mean that I don't care or take this seriously. I have cared and taken this very seriously from the start. And I know your sample size of 23 is really large but I think I will trust an actual study that tells me it is extremely rare instead. Call me crazy....
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
Posted by Budjeg11
Posted by lululu
Here's a study that shows that COVID reinfection in the few months following COVID is extremely unlikely so those that are already stressed out don't have to add another thing to their list:
COVID reinfection very unlikely
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I feel similarly as we were a super careful family and got it notwithstanding. I too try to rationalize and find a silver lining by saying well at least it was mild perhaps if we got it another time or another way it would have been worse. However, i think that the way you phrased your initial post-- sounded like you were happy that you got covid and were minimizing the potential health effects, including long term effects, for many. Your post didnt sound like it was looking for empathy or compassion though which is likely why you got the responses you got. I do hope that your family gets through unscathed.
I am a glass half full type of eternal optimist. I found out from an early age that no good comes of endlessly worrying about possibilities that may or may not happen. And this is because I spent years worrying that my father would die of a heart attack - I lost sleep over it, countless nights... And then he died anyway, when I was 22. This is a very personal share for me on here but I feel the need to because while I am trying to read the posts in order I did catch a glimpse of a post later saying it never seems that I took this seriously. I have taken this very seriously however, I never spend my time worrying about the what-ifs. I live in the present and I deal with things as they come. That is not to say that I don't take precautions or that I am anti mask, anti science, non vaxxer etc etc etc. While we have continued to live our lives through this pandamic we have done it completely within the rules set up by the state, local and federal guidelines. I think anyone will be hard pressed to find a post on here where I seem to not take this seriously, that I thought it was a hoax or anything of that nature. I have expressed compassion for small business owners and other families that are probably desperately struggling with our complete economic shut down and I do believe things need to be open with precautions. That doesn't mean I don't take things seriously.
All I am saying is, someone says their family has covid but at least the positive is that we will have protective antibodies, and someone has to come back and try to negate that. It's totally unnecessary. And if you want to point out that it's possible because you think you are actually being helpful there is a better way to state it. Such as: So sorry you are going thru this, just still be careful as I know a handful of people who have contracted covid for a second time.
Anyway, if I didn't have so much time on my hands while being stuck in the house I don't even think I would bother explaining all of this because I am sure someone will pick it apart and misconstrue it.
Perfectly stated. I feel very similar to you.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
Posted by Budjeg11
Posted by lululu
Here's a study that shows that COVID reinfection in the few months following COVID is extremely unlikely so those that are already stressed out don't have to add another thing to their list:
COVID reinfection very unlikely
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I feel similarly as we were a super careful family and got it notwithstanding. I too try to rationalize and find a silver lining by saying well at least it was mild perhaps if we got it another time or another way it would have been worse. However, i think that the way you phrased your initial post-- sounded like you were happy that you got covid and were minimizing the potential health effects, including long term effects, for many. Your post didnt sound like it was looking for empathy or compassion though which is likely why you got the responses you got. I do hope that your family gets through unscathed.
I am a glass half full type of eternal optimist. I found out from an early age that no good comes of endlessly worrying about possibilities that may or may not happen. And this is because I spent years worrying that my father would die of a heart attack - I lost sleep over it, countless nights... And then he died anyway, when I was 22. This is a very personal share for me on here but I feel the need to because while I am trying to read the posts in order I did catch a glimpse of a post later saying it never seems that I took this seriously. I have taken this very seriously however, I never spend my time worrying about the what-ifs. I live in the present and I deal with things as they come. That is not to say that I don't take precautions or that I am anti mask, anti science, non vaxxer etc etc etc. While we have continued to live our lives through this pandamic we have done it completely within the rules set up by the state, local and federal guidelines. I think anyone will be hard pressed to find a post on here where I seem to not take this seriously, that I thought it was a hoax or anything of that nature. I have expressed compassion for small business owners and other families that are probably desperately struggling with our complete economic shut down and I do believe things need to be open with precautions. That doesn't mean I don't take things seriously.
All I am saying is, someone says their family has covid but at least the positive is that we will have protective antibodies, and someone has to come back and try to negate that. It's totally unnecessary. And if you want to point out that it's possible because you think you are actually being helpful there is a better way to state it. Such as: So sorry you are going thru this, just still be careful as I know a handful of people who have contracted covid for a second time.
Anyway, if I didn't have so much time on my hands while being stuck in the house I don't even think I would bother explaining all of this because I am sure someone will pick it apart and misconstrue it.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
Posted by Budjeg11
Posted by lululu
Here's a study that shows that COVID reinfection in the few months following COVID is extremely unlikely so those that are already stressed out don't have to add another thing to their list:
COVID reinfection very unlikely
But you know what's interesting - If I said I have cancer and I'm optimistic because it has an 80% survival rate, would you say to me: Yeah but 20% of people die and of the 80% that survive most are likely to get cancer again and die in then next 10 years? The compassion on this site is nonexistent for some posters. I am trying to see a silver lining of having Covid. It's not our FAULT that we got covid. We have been relatively careful recently. More careful than most of my friends have been. But as has been pointed out - unless you don't leave your house at all, you are at risk! We wear mask everywhere, we limit our interactions with friends and family. We skipped all the holidays with family. Outside of locking ourselves in our home I can't say would could have been that much more careful.
I feel similarly as we were a super careful family and got it notwithstanding. I too try to rationalize and find a silver lining by saying well at least it was mild perhaps if we got it another time or another way it would have been worse. However, i think that the way you phrased your initial post-- sounded like you were happy that you got covid and were minimizing the potential health effects, including long term effects, for many. Your post didnt sound like it was looking for empathy or compassion though which is likely why you got the responses you got. I do hope that your family gets through unscathed.
I am a glass half full type of eternal optimist. I found out from an early age that no good comes of endlessly worrying about possibilities that may or may not happen. And this is because I spent years worrying that my father would die of a heart attack - I lost sleep over it, countless nights... And then he died anyway, when I was 22. This is a very personal share for me on here but I feel the need to because while I am trying to read the posts in order I did catch a glimpse of a post later saying it never seems that I took this seriously. I have taken this very seriously however, I never spend my time worrying about the what-ifs. I live in the present and I deal with things as they come. That is not to say that I don't take precautions or that I am anti mask, anti science, non vaxxer etc etc etc. While we have continued to live our lives through this pandamic we have done it completely within the rules set up by the state, local and federal guidelines. I think anyone will be hard pressed to find a post on here where I seem to not take this seriously, that I thought it was a hoax or anything of that nature. I have expressed compassion for small business owners and other families that are probably desperately struggling with our complete economic shut down and I do believe things need to be open with precautions. That doesn't mean I don't take things seriously.
All I am saying is, someone says their family has covid but at least the positive is that we will have protective antibodies, and someone has to come back and try to negate that. It's totally unnecessary. And if you want to point out that it's possible because you think you are actually being helpful there is a better way to state it. Such as: So sorry you are going thru this, just still be careful as I know a handful of people who have contracted covid for a second time.
Anyway, if I didn't have so much time on my hands while being stuck in the house I don't even think I would bother explaining all of this because I am sure someone will pick it apart and misconstrue it.
This is exactly how I feel and I couldn’t have said it better. 
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So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
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Re: Play dates
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So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
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Re: Play dates
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Posted by valentinesbaby48
So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
Have you been watching at all?
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Re: Play dates
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Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by valentinesbaby48
So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
Have you been watching at all?
Let's hope he doesn't finish his Inauguration with a joy ride around Walter Reed while contagious with CoVid in a truck full of Secret Service. That would just be the icing on the cake.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by valentinesbaby48
So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
Have you been watching at all?
I feel like with masks on outdoors it's pretty safe even if you aren't 6 feet apart. We are trying to figure out how we got it and while we did have some people over briefly indoors, their car broke down and he had to drive them home ten minutes. He was the first in our family who got it and he gave it to the rest of us - we know this based on the timing of negative vs. positive tests.
No one wore masks and windows were up. And ironically, the only person that my husband gave it to was in a car for only 4 minutes, no masks because my husbands car wouldn't start. I think the car is so dangerous so anyone still doing carpools might want to rethink that.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by valentinesbaby48
So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
Have you been watching at all?
I feel like with masks on outdoors it's pretty safe even if you aren't 6 feet apart. We are trying to figure out how we got it and while we did have some people over briefly indoors, their car broke down and he had to drive them home ten minutes. He was the first in our family who got it and he gave it to the rest of us - we know this based on the timing of negative vs. positive tests.
No one wore masks and windows were up. And ironically, the only person that my husband gave it to was in a car for only 4 minutes, no masks because my husbands car wouldn't start. I think the car is so dangerous so anyone still doing carpools might want to rethink that.
So then we can have graduations, concerts, any kind of gatherings for hours outdoor with masks then?
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Re: Play dates
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by lululu
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by valentinesbaby48
So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
Have you been watching at all?
I feel like with masks on outdoors it's pretty safe even if you aren't 6 feet apart. We are trying to figure out how we got it and while we did have some people over briefly indoors, their car broke down and he had to drive them home ten minutes. He was the first in our family who got it and he gave it to the rest of us - we know this based on the timing of negative vs. positive tests.
No one wore masks and windows were up. And ironically, the only person that my husband gave it to was in a car for only 4 minutes, no masks because my husbands car wouldn't start. I think the car is so dangerous so anyone still doing carpools might want to rethink that.
So then we can have graduations, concerts, any kind of gatherings for hours outdoor with masks then?
Well, I'm pretty sure that's not my decision to make.
I would be comfortable going to an outdoor event masked with some distance - I wouldn't want to be jam packed at citi field. But if it was at 50% capacity or so I would be fine with it.
However, I will have those nonprotective antibodies and since someone has a friend that has a brother that tested positive twice we should all agree the antibodies don't mean anything. I wonder if the same people will start talking about the 5% of the population that will get the vaccine but still get covid therefore anyone who got the vaccine should walk around in constant fear that they will still get covid.
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Re: Play dates
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Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by lululu
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by valentinesbaby48
So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
Have you been watching at all?
I feel like with masks on outdoors it's pretty safe even if you aren't 6 feet apart. We are trying to figure out how we got it and while we did have some people over briefly indoors, their car broke down and he had to drive them home ten minutes. He was the first in our family who got it and he gave it to the rest of us - we know this based on the timing of negative vs. positive tests.
No one wore masks and windows were up. And ironically, the only person that my husband gave it to was in a car for only 4 minutes, no masks because my husbands car wouldn't start. I think the car is so dangerous so anyone still doing carpools might want to rethink that.
So then we can have graduations, concerts, any kind of gatherings for hours outdoor with masks then?
Well, I'm pretty sure that's not my decision to make.
I would be comfortable going to an outdoor event masked with some distance - I wouldn't want to be jam packed at citi field. But if it was at 50% capacity or so I would be fine with it.
However, I will have those nonprotective antibodies and since someone has a friend that has a brother that tested positive twice we should all agree the antibodies don't mean anything. I wonder if the same people will start talking about the 5% of the population that will get the vaccine but still get covid therefore anyone who got the vaccine should walk around in constant fear that they will still get covid.
Just making a comment as everyone was packed in like sardines at the inauguration but grandparents can't even come and see their grandkids graduate.
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Re: Play dates
How do play dates go to politics?
It’s really sad
Anyway - you all know my story (smell and taste come and go, still coughing and breathing is a little tight - sinus pressure sucks too BUT IM ALIVE) there are people who just need to learn for themselves when it comes to everything. Me, I learn from others. A friend almost died in a Head on collision when we were teens. Watching her learn how to read and write again made me swear to always wear a seatbelt. And a year later, was in a head on collision myself. Not a scratch on me. I learned from her.
Why did I tell this story? LEARN FROM ME. I know you can’t live in fear. And I don’t expect anyone to. But please for the love of Christ, don’t be cavalier and quote survival stats. I’m 43 years old. In good health. No underlying conditions (other than my thyroid which the whole word has) I should have been fine. Everyone around me was. And you all know what happened. I consider myself very very very lucky even as hard as it was (and still is)
Stop arguing and start treating each other better. Everyone deserves to have an opinion and a view. But when it comes to a disease that your opinion of it not being a big deal can kill me because you work at the dentist I went to - it’s not just your opinion anymore. Remember your choices when it comes to this disease doesn’t only affect you.
Please stop bickering. Life is too short. And leave politics where they belong.
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How do play dates go to politics?
It’s really sad
Anyway - you all know my story (smell and taste come and go, still coughing and breathing is a little tight - sinus pressure sucks too BUT IM ALIVE) there are people who just need to learn for themselves when it comes to everything. Me, I learn from others. A friend almost died in a Head on collision when we were teens. Watching her learn how to read and write again made me swear to always wear a seatbelt. And a year later, was in a head on collision myself. Not a scratch on me. I learned from her.
Why did I tell this story? LEARN FROM ME. I know you can’t live in fear. And I don’t expect anyone to. But please for the love of Christ, don’t be cavalier and quote survival stats. I’m 43 years old. In good health. No underlying conditions (other than my thyroid which the whole word has) I should have been fine. Everyone around me was. And you all know what happened. I consider myself very very very lucky even as hard as it was (and still is)
Stop arguing and start treating each other better. Everyone deserves to have an opinion and a view. But when it comes to a disease that your opinion of it not being a big deal can kill me because you work at the dentist I went to - it’s not just your opinion anymore. Remember your choices when it comes to this disease doesn’t only affect you.
Please stop bickering. Life is too short. And leave politics where they belong.
As sad as it it, politics have come in between all of this. Not to down play your illness as I followed and it was horrible, didn't you say you have Fibromyalgia? Do you think that could have made your condition worse? :(
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Re: Play dates
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So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
Have you been watching at all?
I feel like with masks on outdoors it's pretty safe even if you aren't 6 feet apart. We are trying to figure out how we got it and while we did have some people over briefly indoors, their car broke down and he had to drive them home ten minutes. He was the first in our family who got it and he gave it to the rest of us - we know this based on the timing of negative vs. positive tests.
No one wore masks and windows were up. And ironically, the only person that my husband gave it to was in a car for only 4 minutes, no masks because my husbands car wouldn't start. I think the car is so dangerous so anyone still doing carpools might want to rethink that.
So then we can have graduations, concerts, any kind of gatherings for hours outdoor with masks then?
Well, I'm pretty sure that's not my decision to make.
I would be comfortable going to an outdoor event masked with some distance - I wouldn't want to be jam packed at citi field. But if it was at 50% capacity or so I would be fine with it.
However, I will have those nonprotective antibodies and since someone has a friend that has a brother that tested positive twice we should all agree the antibodies don't mean anything. I wonder if the same people will start talking about the 5% of the population that will get the vaccine but still get covid therefore anyone who got the vaccine should walk around in constant fear that they will still get covid.
Just making a comment as everyone was packed in like sardines at the inauguration but grandparents can't even come and see their grandkids graduate.
No, they weren't packed in like sardines. You are making up your own "facts".
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Re: Play dates
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We stopped playdates about a month ago leading up to Christmas. My daughter does competitive gymnastics so she is there for about 9 hours a week. We also ski on weekends and there is one family that we spend time indoors with.
My husband has covid now and I am pretty sure that I will test positive on the test I took yesterday because I am exhibiting mild symptoms but I haven't left the house (other than to test) since last Tuesday. So even being relatively careful we did still take chances and here we are....
I understand being cautious because the rates are so high right now but I have to say this couldn't have been better timing for us to have to quarantine for multiple reasons and I have wanted to just get Covid out of the way since the get go. My husband has it way worse than me and even he is not very ill. I understand that everyone's experience is different, but I am willing to bet our experience with mild to moderate symptoms makes up 95% plus of the cases for middle aged healthy people.
You mention "just get COVID out of the way" just because you have it now doesn't mean you won't get it again. Especially now that there are diff strains. Not really following your mentality?
My husband has been living in intense fear of this virus that for 99.99% of people in our age group with no underlying health conditions will be just fine. Getting Covid and seeing that it is not an automatic death sentence has changed this perspective. It's like having a fear of flying and finally getting on the plane and realizing that the odds are with you that you won't crash.
Also, you mention the new strands but they haven't said that those who had prior strands will not be protected from the new strands with the antibodies they already have. I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
And, the likelihood of getting it again in the next year or so is EXTREMELY unlikely. Yes, it does happen, but very rarely. Just like you don't hear about people getting the flu two times in one year, I am sure it happens, but you don't live in fear of getting this again for the imminent future.
So that's my mentality. You do you, I'll do me. I don't ever ask anyone to agree with or understand my perspective.
You've made it clear you don't care or really take this seriously , so I know you don't care about my 2 cents but you shouldn't be so cavalier. TWO people in my office have had it twice. For one of them the Second time was much worse and he was hospitalized for almost a month. That's 2 people in an office of 23, so not extremely unlikely. But of course you do you.
Because I have disagreed with you on certain things in the past does not mean that I don't care or take this seriously. I have cared and taken this very seriously from the start. And I know your sample size of 23 is really large but I think I will trust an actual study that tells me it is extremely rare instead. Call me crazy....
I have no idea what you are talking about that you have disagreed with me. I don't keep notes on posters. I am very sorry you are sick. And I never said my sample size of 23 was LARGE, in fact if you read, that was my point. I work in a small place and 2 out of 9 Covid positive people had it twice. That was to point out your saying it is extremely rare to get it again. My point was that in a small office, two people have had it twice. Not sure why you didn't or don't understand the point. I think you saying it's almost impossible to get it twice is a huge disservice. But if it makes you feel better to pick on me, please go ahead.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
How do play dates go to politics?
It’s really sad
Anyway - you all know my story (smell and taste come and go, still coughing and breathing is a little tight - sinus pressure sucks too BUT IM ALIVE) there are people who just need to learn for themselves when it comes to everything. Me, I learn from others. A friend almost died in a Head on collision when we were teens. Watching her learn how to read and write again made me swear to always wear a seatbelt. And a year later, was in a head on collision myself. Not a scratch on me. I learned from her.
Why did I tell this story? LEARN FROM ME. I know you can’t live in fear. And I don’t expect anyone to. But please for the love of Christ, don’t be cavalier and quote survival stats. I’m 43 years old. In good health. No underlying conditions (other than my thyroid which the whole word has) I should have been fine. Everyone around me was. And you all know what happened. I consider myself very very very lucky even as hard as it was (and still is)
Stop arguing and start treating each other better. Everyone deserves to have an opinion and a view. But when it comes to a disease that your opinion of it not being a big deal can kill me because you work at the dentist I went to - it’s not just your opinion anymore. Remember your choices when it comes to this disease doesn’t only affect you.
Please stop bickering. Life is too short. And leave politics where they belong.
As sad as it it, politics have come in between all of this. Not to down play your illness as I followed and it was horrible, didn't you say you have Fibromyalgia? Do you think that could have made your condition worse? :(
Fibro is not a known illness. It’s more of a “we don’t know what’s wrong with you so this is what it is” illness. So no. Other than my thyroid and my blood type (A seems to get it the worst) there is no reason for me to get as sick as I did. Nothing. I have 2 brothers. One is diabetic and overweight - asymptomatic. The other has RA and is overweight - he had a fever for 2 day. 2 people who should have been very ill - nothing. There is absolutely no way to know how you will be affected if you get it. Covid is a magician.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by lululu
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by lululu
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by CookiePuss
Posted by valentinesbaby48
So if masks work then why do we need the 6 feet apart?
Is anyone watching the Inauguration? They are all on top of one another.
It's despicable! He kissed is wife! The horror! the horror!
Have you been watching at all?
I feel like with masks on outdoors it's pretty safe even if you aren't 6 feet apart. We are trying to figure out how we got it and while we did have some people over briefly indoors, their car broke down and he had to drive them home ten minutes. He was the first in our family who got it and he gave it to the rest of us - we know this based on the timing of negative vs. positive tests.
No one wore masks and windows were up. And ironically, the only person that my husband gave it to was in a car for only 4 minutes, no masks because my husbands car wouldn't start. I think the car is so dangerous so anyone still doing carpools might want to rethink that.
So then we can have graduations, concerts, any kind of gatherings for hours outdoor with masks then?
Well, I'm pretty sure that's not my decision to make.
I would be comfortable going to an outdoor event masked with some distance - I wouldn't want to be jam packed at citi field. But if it was at 50% capacity or so I would be fine with it.
However, I will have those nonprotective antibodies and since someone has a friend that has a brother that tested positive twice we should all agree the antibodies don't mean anything. I wonder if the same people will start talking about the 5% of the population that will get the vaccine but still get covid therefore anyone who got the vaccine should walk around in constant fear that they will still get covid.
I don't know what the hell your problem is with me. I was pointing out my personal experience , which is FACT as DOH can confirm it since they know every case in my office. I am very pro science and pro vaccines. That is why the fact that I know TWO people in one place that got it TWICe and one almost died the second time scares me. My God, quarantining must have really did a number to your brain. I was never criticizing you that you had Covid. I was pointing out that it's not as rare as you think.
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Re: Play dates
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I have no idea what you are talking about that you have disagreed with me. I don't keep notes on posters. I am very sorry you are sick. And I never said my sample size of 23 was LARGE, in fact if you read, that was my point. I work in a small place and 2 out of 9 Covid positive people had it twice. That was to point out your saying it is extremely rare to get it again. My point was that in a small office, two people have had it twice. Not sure why you didn't or don't understand the point. I think you saying it's almost impossible to get it twice is a huge disservice. But if it makes you feel better to pick on me, please go ahead.
If you don't take notes on posters then it's really strange that you would accuse me of not taking this seriously from the start. I don't believe I used the word "impossible" I believe I used the words "extremely unlikely." there is a difference. The fact that you happen to know two people in a small office means absolutely nothing just like the fact that I know lots of people who have never contracted it TWICE means nothing. What does mean something are the studies that were done that show that most people will not contract the same strand of Covid twice within a certain time period. I am not picking on you, I don't think I have picked on someone my entire life. I just think the way people come at one another on here can be unreal. And your post insinuated that I am somehow to blame for the fact that we have covid becacuse I never took it seriously, which I can assure you is far from the case.
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| Posted 1/19/21 5:37 PM |
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Re: Play dates
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
How do play dates go to politics?
It’s really sad
Anyway - you all know my story (smell and taste come and go, still coughing and breathing is a little tight - sinus pressure sucks too BUT IM ALIVE) there are people who just need to learn for themselves when it comes to everything. Me, I learn from others. A friend almost died in a Head on collision when we were teens. Watching her learn how to read and write again made me swear to always wear a seatbelt. And a year later, was in a head on collision myself. Not a scratch on me. I learned from her.
Why did I tell this story? LEARN FROM ME. I know you can’t live in fear. And I don’t expect anyone to. But please for the love of Christ, don’t be cavalier and quote survival stats. I’m 43 years old. In good health. No underlying conditions (other than my thyroid which the whole word has) I should have been fine. Everyone around me was. And you all know what happened. I consider myself very very very lucky even as hard as it was (and still is)
Stop arguing and start treating each other better. Everyone deserves to have an opinion and a view. But when it comes to a disease that your opinion of it not being a big deal can kill me because you work at the dentist I went to - it’s not just your opinion anymore. Remember your choices when it comes to this disease doesn’t only affect you.
Please stop bickering. Life is too short. And leave politics where they belong.
As sad as it it, politics have come in between all of this. Not to down play your illness as I followed and it was horrible, didn't you say you have Fibromyalgia? Do you think that could have made your condition worse? :(
Fibro is not a known illness. It’s more of a “we don’t know what’s wrong with you so this is what it is” illness. So no. Other than my thyroid and my blood type (A seems to get it the worst) there is no reason for me to get as sick as I did. Nothing. I have 2 brothers. One is diabetic and overweight - asymptomatic. The other has RA and is overweight - he had a fever for 2 day. 2 people who should have been very ill - nothing. There is absolutely no way to know how you will be affected if you get it. Covid is a magician.
This is true. I know people who should have had it really bad or even died from it according to all the studies etc- who were barely sick. Then someone else, with nothing, has it really really bad. So random.
But did you say you caught it at the dentist? I missed that. Were they able to determine that by contact tracing?
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Re: Play dates
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Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
How do play dates go to politics?
It’s really sad
Anyway - you all know my story (smell and taste come and go, still coughing and breathing is a little tight - sinus pressure sucks too BUT IM ALIVE) there are people who just need to learn for themselves when it comes to everything. Me, I learn from others. A friend almost died in a Head on collision when we were teens. Watching her learn how to read and write again made me swear to always wear a seatbelt. And a year later, was in a head on collision myself. Not a scratch on me. I learned from her.
Why did I tell this story? LEARN FROM ME. I know you can’t live in fear. And I don’t expect anyone to. But please for the love of Christ, don’t be cavalier and quote survival stats. I’m 43 years old. In good health. No underlying conditions (other than my thyroid which the whole word has) I should have been fine. Everyone around me was. And you all know what happened. I consider myself very very very lucky even as hard as it was (and still is)
Stop arguing and start treating each other better. Everyone deserves to have an opinion and a view. But when it comes to a disease that your opinion of it not being a big deal can kill me because you work at the dentist I went to - it’s not just your opinion anymore. Remember your choices when it comes to this disease doesn’t only affect you.
Please stop bickering. Life is too short. And leave politics where they belong.
As sad as it it, politics have come in between all of this. Not to down play your illness as I followed and it was horrible, didn't you say you have Fibromyalgia? Do you think that could have made your condition worse? :(
Fibro is not a known illness. It’s more of a “we don’t know what’s wrong with you so this is what it is” illness. So no. Other than my thyroid and my blood type (A seems to get it the worst) there is no reason for me to get as sick as I did. Nothing. I have 2 brothers. One is diabetic and overweight - asymptomatic. The other has RA and is overweight - he had a fever for 2 day. 2 people who should have been very ill - nothing. There is absolutely no way to know how you will be affected if you get it. Covid is a magician.
Interesting. Do you know how long you had it as I have read a stressful even like a car accident could cause it.
So odd as one person can get it worse than another :(
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| Posted 1/19/21 5:38 PM |
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Re: Play dates
Posted by jlm2008
I don't know what the hell your problem is with me. I was pointing out my personal experience , which is FACT as DOH can confirm it since they know every case in my office. I am very pro science and pro vaccines. That is why the fact that I know TWO people in one place that got it TWICe and one almost died the second time scares me. My God, quarantining must have really did a number to your brain. I was never criticizing you that you had Covid. I was pointing out that it's not as rare as you think.
I don't have a problem with you. If you read my other post I believe I explained quite well why your post bothered me. AND it IS as rare as I think. The fact that you know two people who got it twice is an anomaly. Your claim is based on your own personal experience. My claim is based on actual scientific studies.
And again I said that it was the way that you wrote your post.
I am sure you and your family are being extremely vigilant and therefore can not be susceptible to this virus but should you get it I would certainly offer much more compassion than you have been able to show.
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Re: Play dates
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
How do play dates go to politics?
It’s really sad
Anyway - you all know my story (smell and taste come and go, still coughing and breathing is a little tight - sinus pressure sucks too BUT IM ALIVE) there are people who just need to learn for themselves when it comes to everything. Me, I learn from others. A friend almost died in a Head on collision when we were teens. Watching her learn how to read and write again made me swear to always wear a seatbelt. And a year later, was in a head on collision myself. Not a scratch on me. I learned from her.
Why did I tell this story? LEARN FROM ME. I know you can’t live in fear. And I don’t expect anyone to. But please for the love of Christ, don’t be cavalier and quote survival stats. I’m 43 years old. In good health. No underlying conditions (other than my thyroid which the whole word has) I should have been fine. Everyone around me was. And you all know what happened. I consider myself very very very lucky even as hard as it was (and still is)
Stop arguing and start treating each other better. Everyone deserves to have an opinion and a view. But when it comes to a disease that your opinion of it not being a big deal can kill me because you work at the dentist I went to - it’s not just your opinion anymore. Remember your choices when it comes to this disease doesn’t only affect you.
Please stop bickering. Life is too short. And leave politics where they belong.
As sad as it it, politics have come in between all of this. Not to down play your illness as I followed and it was horrible, didn't you say you have Fibromyalgia? Do you think that could have made your condition worse? :(
Fibro is not a known illness. It’s more of a “we don’t know what’s wrong with you so this is what it is” illness. So no. Other than my thyroid and my blood type (A seems to get it the worst) there is no reason for me to get as sick as I did. Nothing. I have 2 brothers. One is diabetic and overweight - asymptomatic. The other has RA and is overweight - he had a fever for 2 day. 2 people who should have been very ill - nothing. There is absolutely no way to know how you will be affected if you get it. Covid is a magician.
Interesting. Do you know how long you had it as I have read a stressful even like a car accident could cause it.
So odd as one person can get it worse than another :(
My fibro started 3 years ago. Honestly, it was at the end of my fertility battle and my body was just done. So stress and emotional trauma 100% has a connection to fibro. They also say if you’ve ever had mono (Epstein Barr) you have a greater chance of getting it too.
My car accident as a teen started my lifelong battle with panic disorder. I was almost agoraphobic when I was 20 years old. Thankful for medicine and therapy and it’s now something I can control as an adult.
My life has been Interesting to say the least. Covid was just the cherry on top.
I will say I haven’t felt so positive in a long time. Everything looks different to me. I just want to love everything and everyone. So weird bc I’m a ***** lol
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