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jessnbrian
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Ripped off by handyman
Yeah, this wasn't a contractor, this was a handy man. Did you have anything in writing for pricing and services?
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by Twobuggies14
Posted by pharmcat2000
They had to make some changes to their original design since DH has special needs and would have been able to escape from what they fabricated at first.
And here it is finished (I am going to paint it).
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What is startling to me is that you are putting your child in something so they cannot escape?? I do not have a child with special needs so maybe that is typical but that seems very scary to me!!
eta: as for the money I would let it go!
How dare you? That is completely irrelevant. What makes people think it is OK to say things like this to other people? You have no idea about her situation, so you should really keep your opinions to yourself. Unbelievable.
ETA: to OP dont even feed into comments like this. Im sure you are doing what is best for your child. Its not even worth it.
I couldn't agree more! You have NO idea what the op situation is like!! I am sure this is the best and safest option for her dd!
To comment on the op I would for sure be annoyed but I'm not sure I would do anything beyond trying to contact the handyman again.
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| Posted 2/28/14 10:06 AM |
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MrsM84
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by Twobuggies14
Posted by pharmcat2000
They had to make some changes to their original design since DH has special needs and would have been able to escape from what they fabricated at first.
And here it is finished (I am going to paint it).
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What is startling to me is that you are putting your child in something so they cannot escape?? I do not have a child with special needs so maybe that is typical but that seems very scary to me!!
eta: as for the money I would let it go!
If you yourself don't have a child with special needs then don't comment on the design of the bed and why it was done. The OP was asking about the financial issue of the carpentry work, not for your personal feedback on the needs of child.
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lynnd126
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by MrsM84
Posted by Twobuggies14
Posted by pharmcat2000
They had to make some changes to their original design since DH has special needs and would have been able to escape from what they fabricated at first.
And here it is finished (I am going to paint it).
IMAGE
What is startling to me is that you are putting your child in something so they cannot escape?? I do not have a child with special needs so maybe that is typical but that seems very scary to me!!
eta: as for the money I would let it go!
If you yourself don't have a child with special needs then don't comment on the design of the bed and why it was done. The OP was asking about the financial issue of the carpentry work, not for your personal feedback on the needs of child.
I agree to an extent but also I do not. Yesterday someone wrote something that *I* found kind of benign (and imo misinterpreted) and people were all over her talking about cps etc. Now, this OP posts what could be construed as a cage for a child, and everyone is all like well you don't know their situation. I would imagine that if one needed a safe bed for a medical issue, that they would not hire some random "handyman" from Craigslist for construction. I would think that the bed would be purchased from a medical supply store, probably even paid for by insurance OR if they were commissioning someone to build it, that the person would be versed in medical safety beds or AT LEAST have a pre-approved schematic for the work. So, no- I don't think it's so horrible that people are questioning this photo she posted.
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| Posted 2/28/14 10:20 AM |
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JDubs
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Unfortunately I don't think there is anything that you can do. You agreed upon the price when you hired him.
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| Posted 2/28/14 10:20 AM |
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adeline27
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
I would let it go. IMO the total amount at the end of the day is worth the custom made build you got. He may have lost the receipts. If he was told ahead that you were going to need the receipts I believe he would have given them to you knowing he came back after you gave him money to start and that he actually finished the job. To me thats a hail mary. Having the receipts is something you should have thought of ahead but its understandable to get sidetracked etc..it's not worth court.
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| Posted 2/28/14 10:23 AM |
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Meg1234
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by lynnd126
Posted by MrsM84
Posted by Twobuggies14
Posted by pharmcat2000
They had to make some changes to their original design since DH has special needs and would have been able to escape from what they fabricated at first.
And here it is finished (I am going to paint it).
IMAGE
What is startling to me is that you are putting your child in something so they cannot escape?? I do not have a child with special needs so maybe that is typical but that seems very scary to me!!
eta: as for the money I would let it go!
If you yourself don't have a child with special needs then don't comment on the design of the bed and why it was done. The OP was asking about the financial issue of the carpentry work, not for your personal feedback on the needs of child.
I agree to an extent but also I do not. Yesterday someone wrote something that *I* found kind of benign (and imo misinterpreted) and people were all over her talking about cps etc. Now, this OP posts what could be construed as a cage for a child, and everyone is all like well you don't know their situation. I would imagine that if one needed a safe bed for a medical issue, that they would not hire some random "handyman" from Craigslist for construction. I would think that the bed would be purchased from a medical supply store, probably even paid for by insurance OR if they were commissioning someone to build it, that the person would be versed in medical safety beds or AT LEAST have a pre-approved schematic for the work. So, no- I don't think it's so horrible that people are questioning this photo she posted.
I also don't think it's wrong. Sometimes people don't see the safety hazards in certain things and it may save a life if someone random says something. I also thought the bed seemed like a safety hazard and I didn't even catch that part in the OP.
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| Posted 2/28/14 10:35 AM |
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sunnyflies
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by MrsT809
Like others brought up, he may not have bought all the materials brand new. DH has tons of wood and other materials lying around and tries to buy as little as possible for a project and use up what he has. I think I would let the amount go since it's what you agreed to and just ask him for a receipt including the labor and materials together. I would call and tell him for tax purposes, you need a receipt from him with the total amount. He should be able to write that out whether or not he has or wants to share a store receipt.
I agree with this. Be nice. Compliment his work, then tell him you just need receipt for the entire amount, including materials, so that you can take it off your taxes. He should be able to provide it. I've several times had experiences somewhat like this in which I am sure that the cost was less. It's no fun, as money is money and it hurts to lose some unnecessarily when you try to watch each penny. But if the work was good and you are basically pleased, let it go - once you have the receipt.
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Ladies, honestly, if I may be frank, SHUT UP. If you want to discuss materials and costs fine, otherwise you are WAY out of line. I hope no one says another word about the structure, you dont know, dont presume to know, not in her shoes and Im sure she is doing what is best. That is not the issue at hand. Keep your unnecessary and irrelevant comments to yourself, please.
Just bc you can, doesnt mean you should.
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| Posted 2/28/14 10:50 AM |
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lynnd126
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Ladies, honestly, if I may be frank, SHUT UP. If you want to discuss materials and costs fine, otherwise you are WAY out of line. I hope no one says another word about the structure, you dont know, dont presume to know, not in her shoes and Im sure she is doing what is best. That is not the issue at hand. Keep your unnecessary and irrelevant comments to yourself, please.
Just bc you can, doesnt mean you should.
Since you're being frank, Ill be frank too. Locking a child in a box to go to sleep is INSANE and besides being possibly DEADLY it would be very traumatizing.
Google safety beds for kids with special needs- they look NOTHING like this bunk and are made by specialized companies.
Again, I think (hope) that the bottom is just a playhouse like the Maxtrix brand- and the closure was just to keep the doors from swinging open.
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:00 AM |
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by lynnd126
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Ladies, honestly, if I may be frank, SHUT UP. If you want to discuss materials and costs fine, otherwise you are WAY out of line. I hope no one says another word about the structure, you dont know, dont presume to know, not in her shoes and Im sure she is doing what is best. That is not the issue at hand. Keep your unnecessary and irrelevant comments to yourself, please.
Just bc you can, doesnt mean you should.
Since you're being frank, Ill be frank too. Locking a child in a box to go to sleep is INSANE and besides being possibly DEADLY it would be very traumatizing.
Google safety beds for kids with special needs- they look NOTHING like this bunk and are made by specialized companies.
Again, I think (hope) that the bottom is just a playhouse like the Maxtrix brand- and the closure was just to keep the doors from swinging open.
I refuse to engage you and perpetuate this conversation. Have a nice day.
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:01 AM |
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tara73
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Ripped off by handyman
If you purchased the supplies and then hired a handyman to do the work, that is one thing.
You hired a handyman/contractor to do work, supplies were included in his quote that you agreed to. Also, he used his gas and time to get the supplies as well.
If you need to submit a receipt for reimbursement, then the receipt from the handyman listing what was done should suffice. He is the person you purchased the supplies AND services from, not Home Depot.
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:05 AM |
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DRMom
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
You do not need to submit receipts for taxes. I would just submit the expense. Keep the contract.
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
i don't think $610 is an unfair price for the job. Yes high, but i have been getting outrageous quotes not much less for jobs much much smaller than that so it seems on par with the service. I get he said the was for materials but I think the total price of the job is what matters.
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:22 AM |
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by tara73
If you purchased the supplies and then hired a handyman to do the work, that is one thing.
You hired a handyman/contractor to do work, supplies were included in his quote that you agreed to. Also, he used his gas and time to get the supplies as well.
If you need to submit a receipt for reimbursement, then the receipt from the handyman listing what was done should suffice. He is the person you purchased the supplies AND services from, not Home Depot.
i kind of agree with this too chalk it up as a lesson learn.
From now on offer to buy all the supplies yourself. thats what i would like to do when i start to get things done around my house, i rather just supply what they need and they just charge me what the labor is.
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:24 AM |
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blu6385
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by LastLightGlow
i don't think $610 is an unfair price for the job. Yes high, but i have been getting outrageous quotes not much less for jobs much much smaller than that so it seems on par with the service. I get he said the was for materials but I think the total price of the job is what matters.
totally off topic but $610 just to do that is fair (i know nothing really about getting work done so it can totally be) if thats the case i am never going to be able afford to get anything done in my house 
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:26 AM |
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lynnd126
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by blu6385
Posted by LastLightGlow
i don't think $610 is an unfair price for the job. Yes high, but i have been getting outrageous quotes not much less for jobs much much smaller than that so it seems on par with the service. I get he said the was for materials but I think the total price of the job is what matters.
totally off topic but $610 just to do that is fair (i know nothing really about getting work done so it can totally be) if thats the case i am never going to be able afford to get anything done in my house
You have to think of it from a carepenter's standpoint. This is some random thing that he had to think up and fabricate- make for the first time- figure out materials etc. In the same amount of hours he probably could have done a much bigger job in your house, but something that was repetitive, easy for him to do b/c he's used to it, etc. So he may have laid a whole floor for one client in the same time that he made this small looking bed thing. Carpenters do not like these kinds of jobs for this reason.
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:30 AM |
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Sparrow
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
This is why I'd be afraid to ever hire from CL. I don't think the $100 or so is worth the aggravation and time wasted for small claims court but it does suck. I would feel the same as you.
Unless you have the time and energy for small claims, I'd just have to say lesson learned.
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:33 AM |
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kahlua716
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by Blazesyth
I think it's too late now. He said 250 for materials at the time the quote was delivered. That was the time to say "That is too much, I'll give you XX for materials." You agreed to it, so that is what you pay.
On the idea of him 'ripping you off' by charging you so much for materials - yeah it sucks but this is what happens. A 'convenience fee' is added for him doing the work of shopping, transporting, etc. As someone earlier had said, if you thought it was too high you had the option of saying "we'll get the supplies to you, please provide a list."
This exactly. Most contractors charge a mark-up on materials (to cover time and gas & wear and tear, loading and unloading, etc)
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| Posted 2/28/14 11:47 AM |
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kahlua716
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by lynnd126
Posted by MrsM84
Posted by Twobuggies14
Posted by pharmcat2000
They had to make some changes to their original design since DH has special needs and would have been able to escape from what they fabricated at first.
And here it is finished (I am going to paint it).
IMAGE
What is startling to me is that you are putting your child in something so they cannot escape?? I do not have a child with special needs so maybe that is typical but that seems very scary to me!!
eta: as for the money I would let it go!
If you yourself don't have a child with special needs then don't comment on the design of the bed and why it was done. The OP was asking about the financial issue of the carpentry work, not for your personal feedback on the needs of child.
I agree to an extent but also I do not. Yesterday someone wrote something that *I* found kind of benign (and imo misinterpreted) and people were all over her talking about cps etc. Now, this OP posts what could be construed as a cage for a child, and everyone is all like well you don't know their situation. I would imagine that if one needed a safe bed for a medical issue, that they would not hire some random "handyman" from Craigslist for construction. I would think that the bed would be purchased from a medical supply store, probably even paid for by insurance OR if they were commissioning someone to build it, that the person would be versed in medical safety beds or AT LEAST have a pre-approved schematic for the work. So, no- I don't think it's so horrible that people are questioning this photo she posted.
I also don't think it's wrong. Sometimes people don't see the safety hazards in certain things and it may save a life if someone random says something. I also thought the bed seemed like a safety hazard and I didn't even catch that part in the OP.
Also agree.
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
I think the issue is you did your research after the carpenter already did his job. If you felt $250 quote was too high for materials then you should have questioned or researched beforehand. You also tipped him $50, meaning you liked his work.
I could be wrong, but it seems you started questioning afterwards and then that is when you asked for receipts. Was this agreed on beforehand? In this arrangement, it appears he gave you a quote and you agreed on it.
Also your husband knew all the materials needed to do this job and was able to do price it out? Im confused at how you know DH's quote on materials is accurate? My DH is an electrician and probably wouldn't be able to get a get an accurate quote on materials for carpentry work.
I dont think the handyman did anything wrong here, unless you guys agreed on receipts beforehand and now he isn't living up to his end.
I think the lesson learned would be to get quotes from different people and maybe research before agreeing on price if you feel its too high.
Also labor is $$$ especially when you have a guy. The handyman probably has to pay him for a full day and maybe overtime.
ETA: Im not sure if you have a case but if you did, I wouldn't think its worth it to go to small claims court for $100-150.
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Ripped off by handyman
I agree with those who don't believe you got ripped off. You agreed to the $250 material fee. Your husband was supposed to ask for the receipts and forgot. He probably left your house and tossed the receipts in the garbage since no one asked for them. I honestly think giving the guy a bad review or reporting him to the BBB is completely unfair.
I am also wondering about your daughter's safety. I'm not saying at all that you're putting her in harms way- i'm completely uninformed in the world of special needs children. What if there's a fire or something? I'm not saying this to be rude, i'm honestly curious.
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Sash
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by kahlua716
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by lynnd126
Posted by MrsM84
Posted by Twobuggies14
Posted by pharmcat2000
They had to make some changes to their original design since DH has special needs and would have been able to escape from what they fabricated at first.
And here it is finished (I am going to paint it).
IMAGE
What is startling to me is that you are putting your child in something so they cannot escape?? I do not have a child with special needs so maybe that is typical but that seems very scary to me!!
eta: as for the money I would let it go!
If you yourself don't have a child with special needs then don't comment on the design of the bed and why it was done. The OP was asking about the financial issue of the carpentry work, not for your personal feedback on the needs of child.
I agree to an extent but also I do not. Yesterday someone wrote something that *I* found kind of benign (and imo misinterpreted) and people were all over her talking about cps etc. Now, this OP posts what could be construed as a cage for a child, and everyone is all like well you don't know their situation. I would imagine that if one needed a safe bed for a medical issue, that they would not hire some random "handyman" from Craigslist for construction. I would think that the bed would be purchased from a medical supply store, probably even paid for by insurance OR if they were commissioning someone to build it, that the person would be versed in medical safety beds or AT LEAST have a pre-approved schematic for the work. So, no- I don't think it's so horrible that people are questioning this photo she posted.
I also don't think it's wrong. Sometimes people don't see the safety hazards in certain things and it may save a life if someone random says something. I also thought the bed seemed like a safety hazard and I didn't even catch that part in the OP.
Also agree.
I agree as well. Yesterday people were hinting for a user to take their DC to a psychologist and/or questioning sexual abuse. No one seemed to bat an eye. But its bad for someone to point a bed may be dangerous.
How does that work?
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by lynnd126
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Ladies, honestly, if I may be frank, SHUT UP. If you want to discuss materials and costs fine, otherwise you are WAY out of line. I hope no one says another word about the structure, you dont know, dont presume to know, not in her shoes and Im sure she is doing what is best. That is not the issue at hand. Keep your unnecessary and irrelevant comments to yourself, please.
Just bc you can, doesnt mean you should.
Since you're being frank, Ill be frank too. Locking a child in a box to go to sleep is INSANE and besides being possibly DEADLY it would be very traumatizing.
Google safety beds for kids with special needs- they look NOTHING like this bunk and are made by specialized companies.
Again, I think (hope) that the bottom is just a playhouse like the Maxtrix brand- and the closure was just to keep the doors from swinging open.
I refuse to engage you and perpetuate this conversation. Have a nice day.
I just want to address something. Lynn, you cant SEE a bed there anymore. I certainly don't see a bed. Why do you ASSUME there is a bed still there and the mother will lock the kid in? You just assumed that......and even if the mom does? Its none of your business.
You have no idea what kind of therapy she might have been told to have for HER child. You have no idea what that child's needs are, yet you ASSUME the mom is locking the child in to sleep.
2bad I'm with you. This is my one and only comment.
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lynnd126
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Re: Ripped off by handyman
Posted by Paramount
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by lynnd126
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Ladies, honestly, if I may be frank, SHUT UP. If you want to discuss materials and costs fine, otherwise you are WAY out of line. I hope no one says another word about the structure, you dont know, dont presume to know, not in her shoes and Im sure she is doing what is best. That is not the issue at hand. Keep your unnecessary and irrelevant comments to yourself, please.
Just bc you can, doesnt mean you should.
Since you're being frank, Ill be frank too. Locking a child in a box to go to sleep is INSANE and besides being possibly DEADLY it would be very traumatizing.
Google safety beds for kids with special needs- they look NOTHING like this bunk and are made by specialized companies.
Again, I think (hope) that the bottom is just a playhouse like the Maxtrix brand- and the closure was just to keep the doors from swinging open.
I refuse to engage you and perpetuate this conversation. Have a nice day.
I just want to address something. Lynn, you cant SEE a bed there anymore. I certainly don't see a bed. Why do you ASSUME there is a bed still there and the mother will lock the kid in? You just assumed that......and even if the mom does? Its none of your business.
You have no idea what kind of therapy she might have been told to have for HER child. You have no idea what that child's needs are, yet you ASSUME the mom is locking the child in to sleep.
2bad I'm with you. This is my one and only comment.
I did NOT assume it was a bed. Multiple times I said I assumed it was a playhut/clubhouse beneath a bed. I am merely responding that if it IS a sleeping place, I will "be frank" as well with my thoughts regarding safety
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