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Tine73

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Re: Shotgun with children?

We have one.

It was DH's father's and when he passed away DH took it.

It's in our crawlspace and we don't have any bullets. I've actually never even seen it.

Posted 5/13/09 9:11 AM
 
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avamamma
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Re: Shotgun with children?

This post scares me, because even though I would never own a gun, the reality is that many people have them in their homes.

Ava is almost 5, and will eventually be at playdates and birthday parties at people's homes without me.

Message edited 5/13/2009 9:11:36 AM.

Posted 5/13/09 9:11 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

I agree with PPs who said to get an alarm system. I know someone who got their house robbed and they owned a gun. Since no one was home at the time, the gun wouldn't have done anything. However, had they installed an alarm system, at least the cops would have come!

I also don't see the correlation between living in Suffolk and the need to get a gun Chat Icon

Posted 5/13/09 9:12 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

I grew up in a house with several guns and cross bows. My father and brother hunted.

I was taught proper respect for firearms and firearm safety from a young age.

My sister was married to a policeman. His guns were always in a lockbox.

My other sister was married to a hunter - his 13 year old son has never touched any of his guns.

With all that said.. I don't ever want a gun in my house. And one of the reasons I am so protective about my kids being on play dates with people I don't know well is because I don't love the idea of them being in a home with unsecured guns or weapons.

If there isn't a reason for the gun it doesn't need to be in the house. My husband wanted a gun for 'safety' but I nixed that. If the only reason is 'self protection' or a fascination with weaponry - I don't get it. And my immediate impulse is that I don't want my kids around people who have those items for those reasons. I know it's kooky or crazy or whatnot - but that's how I feel.

Posted 5/13/09 9:13 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by avamamma

This post scares me, because even though I would never own a gun, the reality is that many people have them in their homes.

Ava is almost 5, and will eventually be at playdates and birthday parties at people's homes without me.




That is true.. I know a family with a gun and we are there a lot... at least we know they have the gun.. and that it is locked up.. (he hunts) regardless, the idea of other people who my DD will be playing or entering their homes without me may have one, and may store it somewhere out in the open scares me a lot

Posted 5/13/09 9:13 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

I'm glad this post was made, I never made the correlation to tell parents of children that might come over that we have guns in the house that are locked up. But now I will make sure I do. I wouldn't want any parent to be uneasy and unknowing. I will also make a point to ask when my child goes over other kids houses.

So thank you!!

Posted 5/13/09 9:17 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by Malishka31

he wants to keep it under the bed in case of intruders.

I say this with a bit of sarcasm and yet unfortuante truth.




A loaded shotgun under the bed is precarious regardless of the situation...

But when you add an inexperienced marksman and children to the mix you are just asking for trouble...

You dont want to be on the front page of Newsday do you?

I agree with the PPs in that there are many other options in protecting your home from intruders. We all pick and choose our battles when it comes to disagreements with our spouse. This is one situation where I think you need to stick to your "guns" and not back down.

Posted 5/13/09 9:17 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by Marcie

I just don't get the correlation of Suffolk and a Gun Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon
Sorry, I am at a loss for that one...


as for having guns in our home...the answer is negative, there is no need for it



same here...on all points...

Posted 5/13/09 9:50 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by CaseyGirl

Posted by Marcie

I just don't get the correlation of Suffolk and a Gun Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon
Sorry, I am at a loss for that one...


as for having guns in our home...the answer is negative, there is no need for it



same here...on all points...



I agree as well.

I do not think that a gun under the bed is a wise idea. Does your DH know how to use a gun?

Get an alarm system and a dog and call it a day.

ETA: I also think there is a big difference between people who have them for work or b/c it was a heirloom

Message edited 5/13/2009 9:55:09 AM.

Posted 5/13/09 9:54 AM
 

armeewife0514
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Re: Shotgun with children?

Wow I think I will be one of the few to admit we have a gun in our house. We have it in a safe. When I was younger we lived in a rural part of TX and our home was invaded in the middle of the night. We had a dog who the guy drugged. We were lucky. He ransacked everything but the kids room where my brother and I slept. My brother and I both hid in a closet praying. I hope to never have that feeling again nor DS. DS isn't allowed in our bedroom nor anywhere near our gun. My DH has had one since before DS was even a thought. Like he says a dog can be drugged, an alarm can be disconnected as well as phones. This was the only way to insure our safety.

Posted 5/13/09 10:02 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

You're in Brooklyn and your DH is more worried about intruders in Suffolk??? Is there something I don't know about Suffolk??

Keeping a gun under the bed is a very, very, very bad idea. My DH and I grew up in gun-owning households and were taught proper handling but NEVER, EVER was a gun kept unlocked in the house. They were only taken out for hunting purposes. ..

The reality is...If the gun was responsibly kept locked up and an intruder was in the house, do you think your DH would have the time and sound mind and steady hand to unlock it and aim at the intruder? What if the intruder hits him on the head and takes the gun from him? I'd keep a bat under the bed.

Invest in an alarm system (one that alerts you when windows/doors are opened) and a noisy dog if he's that worried of intruders.

ETA: one more thought and grammar

Message edited 5/13/2009 10:09:08 AM.

Posted 5/13/09 10:04 AM
 

Laura1976

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by Marcie

I just don't get the correlation of Suffolk and a Gun Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon
Sorry, I am at a loss for that one...


as for having guns in our home...the answer is negative, there is no need for it



yeah, i'm a little confused too.

a shotgun under the bed is a terrible idea IMO. Locked up and hidden somewhere is a different story.

Posted 5/13/09 10:06 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by armeewife0514

Like he says a dog can be drugged, an alarm can be disconnected as well as phones. This was the only way to insure our safety.



I'm sorry, I am not flaming you, but I HIGHLY disagree with this. I do not think a gun will equate safety.

Posted 5/13/09 10:10 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by armeewife0514

Wow I think I will be one of the few to admit we have a gun in our house. We have it in a safe. When I was younger we lived in a rural part of TX and our home was invaded in the middle of the night. We had a dog who the guy drugged. We were lucky. He ransacked everything but the kids room where my brother and I slept. My brother and I both hid in a closet praying. I hope to never have that feeling again nor DS. DS isn't allowed in our bedroom nor anywhere near our gun. My DH has had one since before DS was even a thought. Like he says a dog can be drugged, an alarm can be disconnected as well as phones. This was the only way to insure our safety.



I'm sorry you went through that as a kid-how scary!

I do not see how a gun ensures your safety though. By the time you realized there was an intruder and were able to get to the gun in a locked safe and then get bullets out, etc I don't think it would help much. Plus-if the intruder has a gun or is able to disarm you-what happens then? A shooting match in your house? I just don't see how it makes anyone safer (unless you are a cop who is trained for such a situation and to use the weapon).

Posted 5/13/09 10:10 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by hbugal

A loaded shotgun under the bed is precarious regardless of the situation...

But when you add an inexperienced marksman and children to the mix you are just asking for trouble...

You dont want to be on the front page of Newsday do you?

I agree with the PPs in that there are many other options in protecting your home from intruders. We all pick and choose our battles when it comes to disagreements with our spouse. This is one situation where I think you need to stick to your "guns" and not back down.



Soon to be parent here. I am a huge proponent for gun ownership, I can throw statistics out there in support for gun ownership and looser gun laws, but that would be pointless for this post, since what hbugal said is RIGHT on key.

A loaded gun under your bed is nothing but irresponsible, especially with children in the house, and then throwing an inexperienced owner on top of that, it is a recipe for disaster!

Please put your foot down on this topic with your DH. If he wants to own a gun, then act like a responsible owner. Take gun safety lessons, learn to shoot, and get the proper equipment to lock up the guns.

I grew up in a house with guns and have been shooting them since I was 13. None of the kids in my family even knew where they were.

An untrained gun owner is more dangerous than a criminal.

Message edited 5/13/2009 10:14:35 AM.

Posted 5/13/09 10:13 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

BTW I moved out to Suffolk 7 years ago from the Nassau/Queens border because I wanted better for my kids. I live in a safe community with good schools. I have many neighbors originally from Brooklyn & Queens that moved out here for the same reasons Chat Icon None of us own guns....or have had any reason to purchase one...

Message edited 5/13/2009 10:22:24 AM.

Posted 5/13/09 10:16 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

No guns in our house. Never ever underestimate your child's ability to figure things out.

I have a friend whose husband is a hunter. The guns are locked down in a garage, the bullets are kept in a different location. Both are locked up with 2 separate set of keys - not on the same key chain & those keys are locked up.

Putting a shotgun under a bed because of intruders is foolish & a deadly accident waiting to happen. Please do not even consider it.

Posted 5/13/09 10:17 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

I ALWAYS had a fear of guns. My husband was an eagle scout and they actually learned how to shoot. His grandfather use to make guns and actually held the world record for some sharp shooting contests.

He eventually convinced me to let him teach me about guns and how if things are done safetly its ok.

We do have a few guns in the house but they are not for "protective" purposes rather recreational and they are guns his grandfather made so they are sentimental.

The guns are broken down and unloaded and kept in a lock box in a part of the house that is locked and no access for children or other people.

THe ammunition is kept SEPERATELY and locked and hidden in teh house.

I feel completely comfortable with this because it woudl take a VERY SMART person a lot of keys , a treasure map and a lot of time to find the guns ulock them 2 X assemble them and they have to find the ammo and unlock them.......

Posted 5/13/09 10:19 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

I would get an alarm system much safer- the idea of guns in the house with young children, taking the chance you will shoot a family member mistaking them for an intruder OR having the intruder take the weapon and use it ON you would be huge arguments to me against having one in the home.

Posted 5/13/09 10:33 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

I am sorry but I also have to say...if he feels that it is sooooo 'unsafe' 'out here', then why move to a different area then you already feel safe in.

I know this isn't the issue - cause you asking about guns...but I can't move past...why move to an area where you feel you need a gun to be safe Chat Icon

Posted 5/13/09 10:43 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

no we don't own a gun and personally I want to keep it that way. We're not hunters though.

Posted 5/13/09 10:51 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

The only reason I would allow a gun in my house is if I was married to someone in law enforcement and even then, it would make me nervous.

My dad was a hunter too, and he kept the gun hidden away, with the bullets in a seperate location. I don't think I even saw his gun until I was an adult. Interestingly, after he died, I don't think any of us wanted the gun.

I can't think of any location in the house where the gun would be accessible enough to use on an intruder, but secured from the children. Adding to the mix your DH's inexperience with guns, it just sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Message edited 5/13/2009 11:08:02 AM.

Posted 5/13/09 11:07 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by Marcie

I just don't get the correlation of Suffolk and a Gun Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon
Sorry, I am at a loss for that one...


as for having guns in our home...the answer is negative, there is no need for it



me too...Im confused as to why moving out to Suffolk, which is really safe IMO, warrants buying a gun. Im just confused.

And no, I would never allow guns in my house, particularly loaded and under the bed.

Posted 5/13/09 11:29 AM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

DH is a cop and we have guns in our house. That being said...he has been a cop for 9 yrs. and is specially trained to use it. I would NEVER have a gun in the house otherwise.

If you look at statistics, more people who own guns for "protection" shoot themselves or family members than intruders. And I would never leave a gun under the bed not locked up.

A co-worker of mine, who lived in Virginia where gun laws are very lenient, had his 3 yr old grandson blow his head off with a gun he found under the seat of his father's truck.

I think it is a bad idea!


ETA: Leaving a loaded gun under thed bed is an even worse idea. The gun should always be locked up UNLOADED with bullets in a different place in the house. The first thing DH does when he comes home is unload his guns. And while some cops bring their guns home, alot don't.

Message edited 5/13/2009 12:25:30 PM.

Posted 5/13/09 12:20 PM
 

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Re: Shotgun with children?

Posted by KateDevine

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Posted by Marcie

I just don't get the correlation of Suffolk and a Gun Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon
Sorry, I am at a loss for that one...


as for having guns in our home...the answer is negative, there is no need for it



same here...on all points...



I agree as well.

I do not think that a gun under the bed is a wise idea. Does your DH know how to use a gun?

Get an alarm system and a dog and call it a day.




ITA. We don't have a gun, and I would not be comfortable having it in the house unless it was locked up and stored someplace where DS and his friends could not get at it. This would not help with intruders, but unless someone is a cop and really knows how to handle these situations, I think you are better off without a gun during a break-in. Very often, crooks know how to use them better than we do, and they could take the gun and use it on you guys.

Posted 5/13/09 12:26 PM
 
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