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ave1024
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by MeeshMosh
well then thats a pretty sad mind frame you live in 
Thanks for the personal attack. 
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
ahhh forget it.
Message edited 9/22/2008 1:36:06 PM.
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Porrruss
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by MeeshMosh
well then thats a pretty sad mind frame you live in
WOW- glad to see we have yet another noob who doesn't know how to play nice.
She respectfully doesn't agree with your opinion- why go there, because you can't handle that others don't agree with you?
Message edited 9/22/2008 1:37:03 PM.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:36 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by MeeshMosh
well then thats a pretty sad mind frame you live in
WOW- glad to see we have yet another noob who doesn't know how to play nice.
She resectfully doesn't agree with your opinion- why go there, because you can't handle that others don't agree with you?
you forgot the eyeroll... REALLY reinforces a point, doesn't it...
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:37 PM |
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MeeshMosh
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by namechange
Posted by MeeshMosh
Posted by ave1024
Posted by MeeshMosh
it wasnt possible for me & DH before the wedding... and everyone's situatin is different - you dont know what goes on behind closed doors so dont be quick to judge
Sorry but I don't agree with this and we will respectfully disagree.
There is always a way.
well then thats a pretty sad mind frame you live in
she has a sad mind frame because she feels there is ALWAYS a way to fix a problem?
If anything, that's a POSITIVE mind frame. So, perhaps you feel she lacks empathy for a complete stranger on the internet she knows nothing about other than an opposing view. What's sad about that?
ahhhh the dreaded eyeroll.... really reinforces your point
its sad that she thinks everyones personal money issues and/or other issues can be worked out so they can live life in a legal apartment - yes its a very nice thought to think that they can be... very positive thinking indeed - but the REALITY is - sometimes they cant be and ppl live in illegal apartments
i can totally respect positive thinking, but its when the positive thinking just ignores the reality of other ppl's lives & almost makes people come off like they are "cutting corners" IE - illegal aprtment renters
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:38 PM |
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Porrruss
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by namechange
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by MeeshMosh
well then thats a pretty sad mind frame you live in
WOW- glad to see we have yet another noob who doesn't know how to play nice.
She resectfully doesn't agree with your opinion- why go there, because you can't handle that others don't agree with you?
you forgot the eyeroll... REALLY reinforces a point, doesn't it...
Nope- I refuse to stoop to that level.... But I do like this guy and his sarcastic sn0rt: 
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:38 PM |
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lilacwine
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
No and I've felt uncomfortable visiting people while they were living in them.
It's tax fraud.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:39 PM |
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MegZee
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
no and I never would.
I grew up in a LEGAL 2 family. My mother was a waitress & father was a truck driver. It would have been less taxes for us do to it illegally, but they actually cared about following laws.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:42 PM |
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Porrruss
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Here's the deal Meesh- lets say in a few years your neighbor starts renting out an illegal. Every month there are new tenants. Different cars and people in and out of the neighborhood. To the point that you never know if that guy hanging around is your neighbor, or some stranger lurking around.
THIS is what the OP on the original thread may have been alluding to. You (and a few others) took it to a different place. This was never about the people who rented an illegal apartment for a couple years. It was about transient tenants.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:43 PM |
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MeeshMosh
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by MeeshMosh
well then thats a pretty sad mind frame you live in
WOW- glad to see we have yet another noob who doesn't know how to play nice.
She respectfully doesn't agree with your opinion- why go there, because you can't handle that others don't agree with you?
no b/c i'm passionate about some things. i rarely come on here or LIW and voice my true opinion when i dont agree with something so excuse me if i unleased a little - i didnt curse, i didnt make fun, i just pointed something out and continued to explain in my last post... cry about it
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:43 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by MeeshMosh
its sad that she thinks everyones personal money issues and/or other issues can be worked out so they can live life in a legal apartment - yes its a very nice thought to think that they can be... very positive thinking indeed - but the REALITY is - sometimes they cant be and ppl live in illegal apartments
i can totally respect positive thinking, but its when the positive thinking just ignores the reality of other ppl's lives & almost makes people come off like they are "cutting corners" IE - illegal aprtment renters
[shakes fist]
you got me before I edited. I don't want to have a back & forth.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:43 PM |
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eroxgirl
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Yup. My mother and I lived in an illegal apartment for a while. It was that or move to the projects.
And she couldn't 'adjust' her budget because she was unemployed for 18 months.. she went on something like 36 different job interviews and was turned down from all of them because no one wanted to cross-train from the old Wang computer system to windows. And when unemployment ran out, she drove car service 6 days a week, 12 hours a day just to pay the rent in that illegal apartment.
The nearest projects were full of drugs and crime and violence. She did what she had to do to give me a better life.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:43 PM |
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MeeshMosh
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by Porrruss
Here's the deal Meesh- lets say in a few years your neighbor starts renting out an illegal. Every month there are new tenants. Different cars and people in and out of the neighborhood. To the point that you never know if that guy hanging around is your neighbor, or some stranger lurking around.
THIS is what the OP on the original thread may have been alluding to. You (and a few others) took it to a different place. This was never about the people who rented an illegal apartment for a couple years. It was about transient tenants.
YES i totally agree - if that was happening i would report as well- i also said that in one of my posts
BUT my issue is that she said something about how ppl's $$ issues can always be resolved so they dont have to live illegally in an apartment - THAT i have an issue with
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:45 PM |
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PotofLuck06
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by lilacwine
No and I've felt uncomfortable visiting people while they were living in them.
It's tax fraud.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. It feels wrong to me to visit my BIL knowing where he lives in a nice neighborhood than ours, where he spends his weekly paycheck on buying a Wii, or a new Bass, or a new this or that....and we're struggling to make ends meet with our house, taxes, heat, etc.
He has more than enough to get a legal place, but doesn't want to.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:46 PM |
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Jenn627
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
I haven't but I would have.
I really don't see how this thread could have turned into this.
I completely agree unless it's affecting MY life - I wouldn't say boo about it. I could care less about the 'law breaking' aspect of it. I guess I am a terrible citizen.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:47 PM |
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ave1024
I Took The Wrong Road
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by MeeshMosh
its sad that she thinks everyones personal money issues and/or other issues can be worked out so they can live life in a legal apartment - yes its a very nice thought to think that they can be... very positive thinking indeed - but the REALITY is - sometimes they cant be and ppl live in illegal apartments
You said it wasn't possible for you and DH "before the wedding".
Like I said... people have trouble separating NEEDS from WANTS. It's all about entitlement to some.
The same people that say they CAN'T adjust their budget are a lot of times the same people that spend over 10k on a wedding, lease or finance newer cars, have $100+ cable bills, and other non-essential items.
You're telling me two salaries is not enough for a legal apartment? I call ********.
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Porrruss
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by MeeshMosh
Posted by Porrruss
Here's the deal Meesh- lets say in a few years your neighbor starts renting out an illegal. Every month there are new tenants. Different cars and people in and out of the neighborhood. To the point that you never know if that guy hanging around is your neighbor, or some stranger lurking around.
THIS is what the OP on the original thread may have been alluding to. You (and a few others) took it to a different place. This was never about the people who rented an illegal apartment for a couple years. It was about transient tenants.
YES i totally agree - if that was happening i would report as well- i also said that in one of my posts
BUT my issue is that she said something about how ppl's $$ issues can always be resolved so they dont have to live illegally in an apartment - THAT i have an issue with
Well than why drag your opinion down by being rude? The eyeroll was totally unnecessary. She has her opinion and disagreed with yours . To call her frame of mind "sad" and throw out the "eye roll" really takes the meaning out of your argument.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:50 PM |
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LiveAgain
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by ave1024
Posted by MeeshMosh
its sad that she thinks everyones personal money issues and/or other issues can be worked out so they can live life in a legal apartment - yes its a very nice thought to think that they can be... very positive thinking indeed - but the REALITY is - sometimes they cant be and ppl live in illegal apartments
You said it wasn't possible for you and DH "before the wedding".
Like I said... people have trouble separating NEEDS from WANTS. It's all about entitlement to some.
The same people that say they CAN'T adjust their budget are a lot of times the same people that spend over 10k on a wedding, lease or finance newer cars, have $100+ cable bills, and other non-essential items.
You're telling me two salaries is not enough for a legal apartment? I call ********.
ITA with this. 
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MeeshMosh
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by ave1024
Posted by MeeshMosh
its sad that she thinks everyones personal money issues and/or other issues can be worked out so they can live life in a legal apartment - yes its a very nice thought to think that they can be... very positive thinking indeed - but the REALITY is - sometimes they cant be and ppl live in illegal apartments
You said it wasn't possible for you and DH "before the wedding".
Like I said... people have trouble separating NEEDS from WANTS. It's all about entitlement to some.
The same people that say they CAN'T adjust their budget are a lot of times the same people that spend over 10k on a wedding, lease or finance newer cars, have $100+ cable bills, and other non-essential items.
You're telling me two salaries is not enough for a legal apartment? I call ********.
again - you dont know what our situaion was - we could have been engaged for 5 years saving for the weding for all you know - we could have had a wedding in the back yard of my mothers house and spent $500 on everything for all you know
how do you know we had 2 salaries coming in at that time? how do you know that DH's grandmother didnt die that year & leave us a chunk of $$ to get married with? how do you DH didnt KNOCK me up & thats why we were getting married & NEEDED to live in an illegal apartment to save $$ to provide a better place for our child to live?? YOU DONT KNOW
that the point i ws trying to make. you dont know ppls situations
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:55 PM |
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isabelle2137
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Unfortunately, now that I own my own home, I cannot stand to see illegal apartments. Not because of transient tenants, but from a tax paying perspective. It's infuriating.
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| Posted 9/22/08 1:59 PM |
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MegZee
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
my grandmother made an apartment in her house and rented it to another old lady. She didnt get the proper permits and someone called on her.
It actually WASNT that expensive to get the permits and her taxes didnt go up that much, compared to the rental income she is getting.
I didn't like the fact that she had an illegal apartment, but now when she goes to sell the house she wont have any issues.
I really dont blame the renters. I blame the homeowners for screwing their neighbors.
Message edited 9/22/2008 2:01:34 PM.
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Porrruss
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by MeeshMosh
Posted by ave1024
Posted by MeeshMosh
its sad that she thinks everyones personal money issues and/or other issues can be worked out so they can live life in a legal apartment - yes its a very nice thought to think that they can be... very positive thinking indeed - but the REALITY is - sometimes they cant be and ppl live in illegal apartments
You said it wasn't possible for you and DH "before the wedding".
Like I said... people have trouble separating NEEDS from WANTS. It's all about entitlement to some.
The same people that say they CAN'T adjust their budget are a lot of times the same people that spend over 10k on a wedding, lease or finance newer cars, have $100+ cable bills, and other non-essential items.
You're telling me two salaries is not enough for a legal apartment? I call ********.
again - you dont know what our situaion was - we could have been engaged for 5 years saving for the weding for all you know - we could have had a wedding in the back yard of my mothers house and spent $500 on everything for all you know
how do you know we had 2 salaries coming in at that time? how do you know that DH's grandmother didnt die that year & leave us a chunk of $$ to get married with? how do you DH didnt KNOCK me up & thats why we were getting married & NEEDED to live in an illegal apartment to save $$ to provide a better place for our child to live?? YOU DONT KNOW
that the point i ws trying to make. you dont know ppls situations
Knocked up? Thats classy.... so when's your baby due?
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MeeshMosh
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by MeeshMosh
Posted by ave1024
Posted by MeeshMosh
its sad that she thinks everyones personal money issues and/or other issues can be worked out so they can live life in a legal apartment - yes its a very nice thought to think that they can be... very positive thinking indeed - but the REALITY is - sometimes they cant be and ppl live in illegal apartments
You said it wasn't possible for you and DH "before the wedding".
Like I said... people have trouble separating NEEDS from WANTS. It's all about entitlement to some.
The same people that say they CAN'T adjust their budget are a lot of times the same people that spend over 10k on a wedding, lease or finance newer cars, have $100+ cable bills, and other non-essential items.
You're telling me two salaries is not enough for a legal apartment? I call ********.
again - you dont know what our situaion was - we could have been engaged for 5 years saving for the weding for all you know - we could have had a wedding in the back yard of my mothers house and spent $500 on everything for all you know
how do you know we had 2 salaries coming in at that time? how do you know that DH's grandmother didnt die that year & leave us a chunk of $$ to get married with? how do you DH didnt KNOCK me up & thats why we were getting married & NEEDED to live in an illegal apartment to save $$ to provide a better place for our child to live?? YOU DONT KNOW
that the point i ws trying to make. you dont know ppls situations
Knocked up? Thats classy.... so when's your baby due?
tomorrow
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sometimesmommy
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
No I would not.... too much risk.I have a friend who did--he, his wife and their two kids. The apartment was reported and now they have to rush and find new accomodations.
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ave1024
I Took The Wrong Road
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Re: Spin-Off: Have YOU ever lived in an illegal apartment?
Posted by Porrruss
Posted by MeeshMosh
Posted by ave1024
Posted by MeeshMosh
its sad that she thinks everyones personal money issues and/or other issues can be worked out so they can live life in a legal apartment - yes its a very nice thought to think that they can be... very positive thinking indeed - but the REALITY is - sometimes they cant be and ppl live in illegal apartments
You said it wasn't possible for you and DH "before the wedding".
Like I said... people have trouble separating NEEDS from WANTS. It's all about entitlement to some.
The same people that say they CAN'T adjust their budget are a lot of times the same people that spend over 10k on a wedding, lease or finance newer cars, have $100+ cable bills, and other non-essential items.
You're telling me two salaries is not enough for a legal apartment? I call ********.
again - you dont know what our situaion was - we could have been engaged for 5 years saving for the weding for all you know - we could have had a wedding in the back yard of my mothers house and spent $500 on everything for all you know
how do you know we had 2 salaries coming in at that time? how do you know that DH's grandmother didnt die that year & leave us a chunk of $$ to get married with? how do you DH didnt KNOCK me up & thats why we were getting married & NEEDED to live in an illegal apartment to save $$ to provide a better place for our child to live?? YOU DONT KNOW
that the point i ws trying to make. you dont know ppls situations
Knocked up? Thats classy.... so when's your baby due?
 Probably the same time that check is showing up.
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