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Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

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Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

DS has STTN a handful of times in the past month. Not sure why he wakes sometimes and sometimes he doesn't (same amount of formula/food, same stuff/activities during the day). He just turned 6 months old.

He normally goes in his crib already asleep as he falls asleep on the boob or bottle. I know this is not recommended, but I can't see how NOT to get him to fall asleep (I try burping him etc) and it's after his bath when he has a new diaper.

That said, when he wakes in the middle of the night, he'll nurse for a few minutes or take only 1 oz in a bottle. I honestly don't think he really needs it at this point since I know he's STTN before.

So, do I just let him cry until he falls back to sleep in the middle of the night? We've tried to let him cry and once it's been 5 or 10 minutes he gets hysterical so we get him. We've tried giving him a paci, tried just rocking him, doesn't work. He needs the boob or a bottle, I am thinking that's the only way he knows how to soothe himself at this point.

So what should/can I do to help him? I've also tried putting his aquarium soother on, but that doesn't really work. Would appreciate any advice!

Posted 9/8/10 2:52 PM
 
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Re: Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

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That said, when he wakes in the middle of the night, he'll nurse for a few minutes or take only 1 oz in a bottle. I honestly don't think he really needs it at this point since I know he's STTN before.




This is your answer - he's not eating b/c he is hungry, he's doing it because that is how he soothes himself back to sleep.

If you are committed to CIO, then yes, it needs to be extinction IF you have already tried going in to soothe him with other methods and that doesn't work.

It's very simple, and VERY hard at the same time. Let him cry. He'll get hysterical. He'll sound like someone is trying to hurt him. And then, when you think it can't get any worse, it will. He'll probably even quiet down and start back up again worse than before.

But if you stick with it, he'll fall asleep. He will learn to put himself to sleep and each night will get easier and easier.

Don't put the aquarium on either, the light and music stimulates them and makes it harder for them to fall back asleep.

A white noise machine might help.

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Posted 9/8/10 2:58 PM
 

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Re: Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

Thanks for posting this Yesi. DS doesnt wake up to feed but I am REALLY wanting to try this soon. He wakes up 3-4 times but I KNOW he can go through the night bc he has done it a few times before. One week straight actually!

Posted 9/8/10 3:02 PM
 

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Re: Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

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This is your answer - he's not eating b/c he is hungry, he's doing it because that is how he soothes himself back to sleep.

If you are committed to CIO, then yes, it needs to be extinction IF you have already tried going in to soothe him with other methods and that doesn't work.

It's very simple, and VERY hard at the same time. Let him cry. He'll get hysterical. He'll sound like someone is trying to hurt him. And then, when you think it can't get any worse, it will. He'll probably even quiet down and start back up again worse than before.

But if you stick with it, he'll fall asleep. He will learn to put himself to sleep and each night will get easier and easier.

Don't put the aquarium on either, the light and music stimulates them and makes it harder for them to fall back asleep.

A white noise machine might help.

And TURN OFF THE SOUND ON THE MONITOR! It only makes it worse Chat Icon Chat Icon



I am dreading this, lol. One major issue is... we share a room! His crib is in our bedroom, so there's no monitor to turn off. The couple of times I've let him cry for 10 minutes, I've cried myself! And then I have DH telling me after 1 minute to just nurse him, lol. Um no, we need him to learn to soote himself. But oh man, this is going to be hard.

He has a white noise machine on all night long. I won't turn on the aquarium again, thanks for that.

What other soothing methods can I try? I've tried picking him up, rocking him, nursing him (that one is a no-no going forward), tried putting my hand on his belly and shushing... tried a paci, won't take it or takes it and spits it right out. Am I missing anything else? I would like to make sure I've tried as much as possible, but I have a feeling I'm going to have to just let him cry. He doesn't really calm down if I go over to him, if I talk to him, if I pick him up, etc. If he's crying, he'll just take the bottle or the boob. So I think I'll just have to suck it up one night (or a few Chat Icon ).

The thing is, I was REALLY hoping I wouldn't have to do this since he's STTN a few times already.

So if I do this, do I put a time limit before I get him? 45 minutes? An hour? Just let him cry until he sleeps? Literally do not go over to him, talk to him, nothing, until he falls asleep on his own?

Posted 9/8/10 3:16 PM
 

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Re: Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

Posted by JoJo2010

Thanks for posting this Yesi. DS doesnt wake up to feed but I am REALLY wanting to try this soon. He wakes up 3-4 times but I KNOW he can go through the night bc he has done it a few times before. One week straight actually!



Yeah that's what gets me - that DS HAS STTN so I know he can, but ugh now that he's 6 months and I can let him CIO (I wanted to wait til 6 months) I'm really dreading it!

Posted 9/8/10 3:17 PM
 

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Re: Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

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Posted by JoJo2010

Thanks for posting this Yesi. DS doesnt wake up to feed but I am REALLY wanting to try this soon. He wakes up 3-4 times but I KNOW he can go through the night bc he has done it a few times before. One week straight actually!



Yeah that's what gets me - that DS HAS STTN so I know he can, but ugh now that he's 6 months and I can let him CIO (I wanted to wait til 6 months) I'm really dreading it!



I am also going to wait until 6 months. Unless a pig flies and he starts STTN in the next month I will be right there with you.

Posted 9/8/10 3:31 PM
 

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Re: Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

Well, I know for my DS if I tried to soothe him he would have gotten more upset. DD, I could sometimes rub her back, but not always, so you could try that. My best advice is to let DS CIO with you out of the room. Can you guys sleep in the living room for a few nights? Definitely try this on a weekend if him crying is going to seriously cut into your sleep and make it hard to function at work.

As for how long, I am not sure. I set a time limit of one hour and DS only cried for 30 minutes, DD almost the whole hour. But for both kids I didn't have to do it more than 2 nights.

Posted 9/8/10 4:28 PM
 

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Re: Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

Thanks LB! I'm off on weekends but DH works so regardless at least one of us is going to be majorly sleep deprived for work when we do this!

Posted 9/8/10 4:53 PM
 

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Re: Talk to me about CIO - specifically if they wake in the middle of the night

Yesi, You also may want to consider waiting a little more since even though Henry is 6 months by birth he was a pre-mie and may need a little more time being soothed etc.

Follow your gut, if you don't feel right doing it yet, don't. He still has time to learn to self soothe. If it doesn't bother you to nurse him back down maybe try a little longer.


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Posted 9/8/10 4:59 PM
 
 

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