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Seawolf
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



What if these people are just not able to get a better job? What f they don't have the brains or money to attend college or technical school? Should they be forced to live on the margins of society because they aren't as lucky as you or I?
Also, why are we demonizing low skilled workers? Why should we be supplementing their salaries with welfare and what not because CEO's don't want to piss of their shareholders?



Thats how it works, just bc you cant for whatever reason doesnt make you entitled to make the same as a college grad working a job that requires no skill or education, it just doesnt.



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Posted 7/27/15 12:44 PM
 
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



What if these people are just not able to get a better job? What f they don't have the brains or money to attend college or technical school? Should they be forced to live on the margins of society because they aren't as lucky as you or I?
Also, why are we demonizing low skilled workers? Why should we be supplementing their salaries with welfare and what not because CEO's don't want to piss of their shareholders?



Thats how it works, just bc you cant for whatever reason doesnt make you entitled to make the same as a college grad working a job that requires no skill or education, it just doesnt.



I agree.

I feel like that is the same mentality as everyone gets an award even if you didn't come In first place.

There are plenty of people who make more then I do in my field and that's because they have the degrees I do not. Does that automatically make them more talented then I am? No. But I accept it for what it is and continue to learn as I go.

If people would stop abusing the system, there would be plenty of money available to help supplement the mentally challenged and elderly who make minimum wage due to not being able to learn past that point. That's why I believe this issue goes hand in hand.

Posted 7/27/15 12:44 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



What if these people are just not able to get a better job? What f they don't have the brains or money to attend college or technical school? Should they be forced to live on the margins of society because they aren't as lucky as you or I?
Also, why are we demonizing low skilled workers? Why should we be supplementing their salaries with welfare and what not because CEO's don't want to piss of their shareholders?



Thats how it works, just bc you cant for whatever reason doesnt make you entitled to make the same as a college grad working a job that requires no skill or education, it just doesnt.



This has nothing to with be "entitled". This has to do with treating people like human beings. These people should not be demonized and we as a society should not have to pick up the slack monetarily because these companies don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart costs our economy over 6 BILLION dollars a year because they don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart

Posted 7/27/15 12:48 PM
 

2BadSoSad
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



What if these people are just not able to get a better job? What f they don't have the brains or money to attend college or technical school? Should they be forced to live on the margins of society because they aren't as lucky as you or I?
Also, why are we demonizing low skilled workers? Why should we be supplementing their salaries with welfare and what not because CEO's don't want to piss of their shareholders?



Thats how it works, just bc you cant for whatever reason doesnt make you entitled to make the same as a college grad working a job that requires no skill or education, it just doesnt.



This has nothing to with be "entitled". This has to do with treating people like human beings. These people should not be demonized and we as a society should not have to pick up the slack monetarily because these companies don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart costs our economy over 6 BILLION dollars a year because they don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart



I disagree.

Posted 7/27/15 12:52 PM
 

ElizaRags35
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



What if these people are just not able to get a better job? What f they don't have the brains or money to attend college or technical school? Should they be forced to live on the margins of society because they aren't as lucky as you or I?
Also, why are we demonizing low skilled workers? Why should we be supplementing their salaries with welfare and what not because CEO's don't want to piss of their shareholders?



Thats how it works, just bc you cant for whatever reason doesnt make you entitled to make the same as a college grad working a job that requires no skill or education, it just doesnt.



This has nothing to with be "entitled". This has to do with treating people like human beings. These people should not be demonized and we as a society should not have to pick up the slack monetarily because these companies don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart costs our economy over 6 BILLION dollars a year because they don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart



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Posted 7/27/15 12:54 PM
 

BunnyWife
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



What if these people are just not able to get a better job? What f they don't have the brains or money to attend college or technical school? Should they be forced to live on the margins of society because they aren't as lucky as you or I?
Also, why are we demonizing low skilled workers? Why should we be supplementing their salaries with welfare and what not because CEO's don't want to piss of their shareholders?



Thats how it works, just bc you cant for whatever reason doesnt make you entitled to make the same as a college grad working a job that requires no skill or education, it just doesnt.



This has nothing to with be "entitled". This has to do with treating people like human beings. These people should not be demonized and we as a society should not have to pick up the slack monetarily because these companies don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart costs our economy over 6 BILLION dollars a year because they don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart



I disagree.



You can disagree all you want, but the facts are the facts. Low wage workers cost you, me and everyone else in our country. Why the hell should the Walton family and the owners of the major fast food chains be let off the hook? Why should we subsidize their fancy houses and yachts because they refuse to pay their workers fairly? I'm siting Walmart because they are the countries largest low wage employer.

Posted 7/27/15 12:57 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by Kitten1929

So basically, a lot of people so flippantly dismiss and devalue other human beings mere existence because they're not worth more than minimum wage.

Keep them in poverty and ***** when they're on public assistance.

How dare these people want to live! How dare they want families and a home and food!




LOL you don't fly off the handle at ALL during debates.



If you don't have anything productive to add to the conversation, kindly stop quoting me.

I'm clearly passionate. All you like to do is make jokes.

Posted 7/27/15 12:59 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



What if these people are just not able to get a better job? What f they don't have the brains or money to attend college or technical school? Should they be forced to live on the margins of society because they aren't as lucky as you or I?
Also, why are we demonizing low skilled workers? Why should we be supplementing their salaries with welfare and what not because CEO's don't want to piss of their shareholders?



Thats how it works, just bc you cant for whatever reason doesnt make you entitled to make the same as a college grad working a job that requires no skill or education, it just doesnt.



This has nothing to with be "entitled". This has to do with treating people like human beings. These people should not be demonized and we as a society should not have to pick up the slack monetarily because these companies don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart costs our economy over 6 BILLION dollars a year because they don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart



I disagree.



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And Bunny Wife, I agree with you.

Posted 7/27/15 1:00 PM
 

Seawolf
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Kitten1929

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by Kitten1929

So basically, a lot of people so flippantly dismiss and devalue other human beings mere existence because they're not worth more than minimum wage.

Keep them in poverty and ***** when they're on public assistance.

How dare these people want to live! How dare they want families and a home and food!




LOL you don't fly off the handle at ALL during debates.



If you don't have anything productive to add to the conversation, kindly stop quoting me.

I'm clearly passionate. All you like to do is make jokes.



Its a message board. Calm down. You say passionate, I say sh*t stirrer. Tomato, tomahhhhto. Chat Icon

Posted 7/27/15 1:00 PM
 

Seawolf
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Seriously, some of you ONLY come on here when there is a "controversial" topic to spout about and then if some people (OH MY GOD!!) disagree with you, suddenly he/she/we're/they're "demonizing" people. Give me a break.

Stop. Cashiers at Mcdonalds and Walmart should NOT be making the same as a teacher. Or an editor. OR a fireman. STOP. You just sound like you're chock full of white guilt.

Posted 7/27/15 1:04 PM
 

PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Seawolf

Seriously, some of you ONLY come on here when there is a "controversial" topic to spout about and then if some people (OH MY GOD!!) disagree with you, suddenly he/she/we're/they're "demonizing" people. Give me a break.

Stop. Cashiers at Mcdonalds and Walmart should NOT be making the same as a teacher. Or an editor. OR a fireman. STOP. You just sound like you're chock full of white guilt.



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Posted 7/27/15 1:05 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

Posted by BunnyWife

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



What if these people are just not able to get a better job? What f they don't have the brains or money to attend college or technical school? Should they be forced to live on the margins of society because they aren't as lucky as you or I?
Also, why are we demonizing low skilled workers? Why should we be supplementing their salaries with welfare and what not because CEO's don't want to piss of their shareholders?



Thats how it works, just bc you cant for whatever reason doesnt make you entitled to make the same as a college grad working a job that requires no skill or education, it just doesnt.



This has nothing to with be "entitled". This has to do with treating people like human beings. These people should not be demonized and we as a society should not have to pick up the slack monetarily because these companies don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart costs our economy over 6 BILLION dollars a year because they don't pay their workers a living wage.
Walmart



I disagree.



You can disagree all you want, but the facts are the facts. Low wage workers cost you, me and everyone else in our country. Why the hell should the Walton family and the owners of the major fast food chains be let off the hook? Why should we subsidize their fancy houses and yachts because they refuse to pay their workers fairly? I'm siting Walmart because they are the countries largest low wage employer.



My aunt works for Walmart in VA - she's a regular FT employee in the store - not corporate - she's been there 12 years and her currently hourly rate is $27 an hour - she started at min wage. Her benefits aren't the greatest but she has them.

Over time, you get promoted, get raises. You start at the bottom and work your way up.

Posted 7/27/15 1:13 PM
 

klingklang77
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Seawolf

Stop. Cashiers at Mcdonalds and Walmart should NOT be making the same as a teacher. Or an editor. OR a fireman. STOP. You just sound like you're chock full of white guilt.



The question is not which job is worth more. The question is that people need a living wage. Facts support that people cannot support themselves with this minimum wage. Facts support that the minimum wage we have now is costing taxpayers more money.

And teachers don't make tons of money in some areas. But they do get pensions, insurance, etc. But that's another argument.



Posted 7/27/15 1:19 PM
 

Millie3
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by PhyllisNJoe

Posted by klingklang77

I've read a few articles on people who cheat the system, and the numbers aren't as high as people believe. And you should report the convenience stores because they are a major part of the problem.

This article talks about this point. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/just-how-wrong-is-conventional-wisdom-about-government-fraud/278690/




When living in Brooklyn, I would see people paying for their food with the EBT card wearing a fur coat and then leaving to get into their Mercedes. No exaggeration.
Still happens today - my friends who still live there get so POed.

While people like my mother, a 76 year old woman expected to live off of social security, can't get more then $50 a month of government help for food in her state.

The system is warped beyond belief when it comes to that



Well, that's what you see, but according to the article there are a few statistics that state that is not the general case.

I'm sure I could find more sources, but I'm working from home the next month and I haven't done anything. The husband is coming home in an hour and I need to make it look like I did something, lol. I'll jump on later.



I was about to say the same thing. For every asshole out there who takes advantage, there are so many honest people out there who don't abuse it. You just hear about the bad ones.

My SIL was on WIC for awhile. If you saw her, her car, what she bought without using WIC checks, you'd think she was a system abuser. But no. She got WIC checks because she adopted a baby and apparently the state she lives in gives adopted families some assistance, whether it's needed or not. He will also get a free ride to a state college.



I wish more people like your SIL were being helped.

The system is a huge failure and an embarrassment at that. There are many people abusing the system. People new to the country making cash (off books) get 100% free college tuition for their kids, EBT, Medicaid benefits. People on SS disability that do not need it, older people moving all assets to their kids to get free food, health care , rent subsidies etc. it angers me that people like my family and many of yours will be the suckers having to pay for all this, save money for retirement, healthcare, AND save a fortune for college.

I worked in a super market many years ago when I was 16. I always wondered how people with EBT were dressed nice, gold jewelry , and fancier cars than even my parents had! It's nice to see nothing at all has changed.

These people know exactly how to work the system, I'm surprised more Americans have not noticed.

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Posted 7/27/15 1:31 PM
 

ElizaRags35
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by Kitten1929

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by Kitten1929

So basically, a lot of people so flippantly dismiss and devalue other human beings mere existence because they're not worth more than minimum wage.

Keep them in poverty and ***** when they're on public assistance.

How dare these people want to live! How dare they want families and a home and food!




LOL you don't fly off the handle at ALL during debates.



If you don't have anything productive to add to the conversation, kindly stop quoting me.

I'm clearly passionate. All you like to do is make jokes.



Its a message board. Calm down. You say passionate, I say sh*t stirrer. Tomato, tomahhhhto. Chat Icon



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Posted 7/27/15 1:34 PM
 

Seawolf
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by Seawolf

Stop. Cashiers at Mcdonalds and Walmart should NOT be making the same as a teacher. Or an editor. OR a fireman. STOP. You just sound like you're chock full of white guilt.



The question is not which job is worth more. The question is that people need a living wage. Facts support that people cannot support themselves with this minimum wage. Facts support that the minimum wage we have now is costing taxpayers more money.

And teachers don't make tons of money in some areas. But they do get pensions, insurance, etc. But that's another argument.






I understand that people NEED to live, but no one should go into a job at a fast food restaurant or a supermarket as a cashier and expect for to earn career type wages - unless they work their way UP in a company.

Posted 7/27/15 1:34 PM
 

Seawolf
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by Kitten1929

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by Kitten1929

So basically, a lot of people so flippantly dismiss and devalue other human beings mere existence because they're not worth more than minimum wage.

Keep them in poverty and ***** when they're on public assistance.

How dare these people want to live! How dare they want families and a home and food!





LOL you don't fly off the handle at ALL during debates.



If you don't have anything productive to add to the conversation, kindly stop quoting me.

I'm clearly passionate. All you like to do is make jokes.



Its a message board. Calm down. You say passionate, I say sh*t stirrer. Tomato, tomahhhhto. Chat Icon



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Posted 7/27/15 1:34 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by Seawolf

Stop. Cashiers at Mcdonalds and Walmart should NOT be making the same as a teacher. Or an editor. OR a fireman. STOP. You just sound like you're chock full of white guilt.



The question is not which job is worth more. The question is that people need a living wage. Facts support that people cannot support themselves with this minimum wage. Facts support that the minimum wage we have now is costing taxpayers more money.

And teachers don't make tons of money in some areas. But they do get pensions, insurance, etc. But that's another argument.






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Posted 7/27/15 1:35 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by Kitten1929

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by Kitten1929

So basically, a lot of people so flippantly dismiss and devalue other human beings mere existence because they're not worth more than minimum wage.

Keep them in poverty and ***** when they're on public assistance.

How dare these people want to live! How dare they want families and a home and food!





LOL you don't fly off the handle at ALL during debates.



If you don't have anything productive to add to the conversation, kindly stop quoting me.

I'm clearly passionate. All you like to do is make jokes.



Its a message board. Calm down. You say passionate, I say sh*t stirrer. Tomato, tomahhhhto. Chat Icon



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Case in point.

Posted 7/27/15 1:36 PM
 

Seawolf
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

When I come on LIF and read some of your posts I really and truly think this country is doomed.

Posted 7/27/15 1:36 PM
 

Millie3
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Seawolf

When I come on LIF and read some of your posts I really and truly think this country is doomed.



Chat Icon remember The health care act? Everyone was so happy until insurance premiums skyrocketed, companies dropped people off insurance, doctors stopped accepting insurance etc. same story over and over.

Posted 7/27/15 1:39 PM
 

Pomegranate5
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by Seawolf

Stop. Cashiers at Mcdonalds and Walmart should NOT be making the same as a teacher. Or an editor. OR a fireman. STOP. You just sound like you're chock full of white guilt.



The question is not which job is worth more. The question is that people need a living wage. Facts support that people cannot support themselves with this minimum wage. Facts support that the minimum wage we have now is costing taxpayers more money.

And teachers don't make tons of money in some areas. But they do get pensions, insurance, etc. But that's another argument.






I understand that people NEED to live, but no one should go into a job at a fast food restaurant or a supermarket as a cashier and expect for to earn career type wages - unless they work their way UP in a company.



I agree.

Not to mention the starting salary for many entry level PROFESSIONAL positions is actually below $15/hr and somehow those people manage to make it work, and sometimes they even support a family.

Posted 7/27/15 1:48 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by 2BadSoSad

It is ridiculous, Im sorry. I 99% of the time I bleeding liberal, almost a socialist but NOT on this. NOT on this.

There is NO REASON that people flipping burgers should be making the same as I was or graduates are now entering the job market at an entry level position after going to school and earning a degree. NO WAY.

You cant just have things handed to you bc you want it or "deserve it". I get that people have families and are hard workers, I do, but there is ALWAYS menial labor jobs vs professional or trained/specialty blue collar jobs that deserve that pay bc they learned a trade or a degree. Your pay level SHOULD be directly related to the skills/training/education necessary to obtain said job.

It pisses me off, it does.



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Posted 7/27/15 1:56 PM
 

klingklang77
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Seawolf

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by Seawolf

Stop. Cashiers at Mcdonalds and Walmart should NOT be making the same as a teacher. Or an editor. OR a fireman. STOP. You just sound like you're chock full of white guilt.



The question is not which job is worth more. The question is that people need a living wage. Facts support that people cannot support themselves with this minimum wage. Facts support that the minimum wage we have now is costing taxpayers more money.

And teachers don't make tons of money in some areas. But they do get pensions, insurance, etc. But that's another argument.






I understand that people NEED to live, but no one should go into a job at a fast food restaurant or a supermarket as a cashier and expect for to earn career type wages - unless they work their way UP in a company.



No one is talking about "career type wages". We are talking about the minimum amount that someone needs to support themselves.

Posted 7/27/15 1:56 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?

Posted by Millie3

Chat Icon remember The health care act? Everyone was so happy until insurance premiums skyrocketed, companies dropped people off insurance, doctors stopped accepting insurance etc. same story over and over.



It's been several years and I'm still happy this country has the ACA.

Sure my premiums and copays have gone up a bit but knowing how many thousands upon thousands of previously uninsured people now have insurance, is a wonderful thing. But I know it's not all about me, me, me.

Posted 7/27/15 2:04 PM
 
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