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Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
I really don't understand these type of conversations. People keep bashing the 1%ers which is my biggest pet peeve. People work to become the top of their industry and to make the money they do. They are entitled to get whatever they get. If we didn't have people at the top creating and sustaining businesses there would be no minimum wage jobs to even argue about. Why go to college and try to do better. Why go to trade school to learn a profession. If you need to work in fast food or another minimum wage job to support your family, get two jobs just like many of our parents did years ago. Everyone is so entitled it is ridiculous. I didn't realize that we are turning the United States into a socialist society. To pay someone $15 an hour to flip a burger is ludicrous.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
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Wait - $15 will be the MAX salary they can make? (one of the last posters just wrote that) - is that true? I am under the impression that it will be the "minimum" that they can make, and they could still get raises, etc? Someone please clarify.
I can't see that as if you are making minimum wage, you get raises too. I would like to see where it says that also.
By 2018 it would be raised in NYC and 2021 elsewhere in NY State.
If you read some of the articles, which I can find in you want. Typically the workers that were interviewed worked for 9+ years never got raises and the ones that did received one raise of 10 cents/hour.
Will they legally be allowed to get a raise? Yes. Will the boss give them raises? I highly doubt it.
I haven't seen any of those articles. Why would they stay someplace for 9 + years without a raise?
Because you need a job. because if you left, you loose all of your seniority (maybe more vacation, better days off, better schedule etc).
I finally left my old job after no raise for 4+ years.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by Paramount
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by w8andsee
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by Seawolf
Wait - $15 will be the MAX salary they can make? (one of the last posters just wrote that) - is that true? I am under the impression that it will be the "minimum" that they can make, and they could still get raises, etc? Someone please clarify.
I can't see that as if you are making minimum wage, you get raises too. I would like to see where it says that also.
By 2018 it would be raised in NYC and 2021 elsewhere in NY State.
If you read some of the articles, which I can find in you want. Typically the workers that were interviewed worked for 9+ years never got raises and the ones that did received one raise of 10 cents/hour.
Will they legally be allowed to get a raise? Yes. Will the boss give them raises? I highly doubt it.
I haven't seen any of those articles. Why would they stay someplace for 9 + years without a raise?
Because you need a job. because if you left, you loose all of your seniority (maybe more vacation, better days off, better schedule etc).
I finally left my old job after no raise for 4+ years.
Been with my practice for 3 years, never once have I received a raise.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't understand these type of conversations. People keep bashing the 1%ers which is my biggest pet peeve. People work to become the top of their industry and to make the money they do. They are entitled to get whatever they get. If we didn't have people at the top creating and sustaining businesses there would be no minimum wage jobs to even argue about. Why go to college and try to do better. Why go to trade school to learn a profession. If you need to work in fast food or another minimum wage job to support your family, get two jobs just like many of our parents did years ago. Everyone is so entitled it is ridiculous. I didn't realize that we are turning the United States into a socialist society. To pay someone $15 an hour to flip a burger is ludicrous.
No-one argues that CEO's deserve to be paid nicely. The problem is that their compensation has skyrocketed (as well as their golden parachutes) while everyone else's wages have been stagnant. Clearly, profits are being funneled upward and the masses are struggling. Also, there are massive layoffs all while CEO's compensation continues to go through the roof.
People talk about the squeezing out of the middle class, but doesn't anyone realize that its this CEO old boys club that is probably the biggest culprit with its tax evasion tactics and monstrous salaries? The money is not "trickling" down to anyone, its staying pooled up top and those at the top keep increasing the prices of everything.
Look, I am an educated person who has worked in Corporate America for more than 20 years and I make a very decent salary. If you think that these CEOs deserve to be making the money they are making, you are very disillusioned.
http://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-continues-to-rise/
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/05/13/top-ceos-now-make-373-times-the-average-rank-and-file-worker/
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by afternoondelight828
I haven't seen any of those articles. Why would they stay someplace for 9 + years without a raise?
From a quick search here are 2 articles:
Daily News
“If it wasn’t for food stamps and Medicare, I wouldn’t be able to take care of myself,” said José Carrillo, 82, a Peruvian immigrant and American citizen who has worked for more than 10 years as a maintenance worker at a Midtown Manhattan McDonald’s. “I have had only a 10-cent raise in all these years.”
The Guardian
"When I started working, [my pay] was around $6.25 at hour. It went up because the minimum wage went up. I get a raise every 6 months, but it's often only 5 cents. The most I've ever seen is a 25 cent raise, but that's hard to get."
Maybe they stay for the same reasons my mom stayed at her minimum wage factory jobs, she didn't have many other options that paid more.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by Pumpkin1
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't understand these type of conversations. People keep bashing the 1%ers which is my biggest pet peeve. People work to become the top of their industry and to make the money they do. They are entitled to get whatever they get. If we didn't have people at the top creating and sustaining businesses there would be no minimum wage jobs to even argue about. Why go to college and try to do better. Why go to trade school to learn a profession. If you need to work in fast food or another minimum wage job to support your family, get two jobs just like many of our parents did years ago. Everyone is so entitled it is ridiculous. I didn't realize that we are turning the United States into a socialist society. To pay someone $15 an hour to flip a burger is ludicrous.
No-one argues that CEO's deserve to be paid nicely. The problem is that their compensation has skyrocketed (as well as their golden parachutes) while everyone else's wages have been stagnant. Clearly, profits are being funneled upward and the masses are struggling. Also, there are massive layoffs all while CEO's compensation continues to go through the roof.
People talk about the squeezing out of the middle class, but doesn't anyone realize that its this CEO old boys club that is probably the biggest culprit with its tax evasion tactics and monstrous salaries? The money is not "trickling" down to anyone, its staying pooled up top and those at the top keep increasing the prices of everything.
Look, I am an educated person who has worked in Corporate America for more than 20 years and I make a very decent salary. If you think that these CEOs deserve to be making the money they are making, you are very disillusioned.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by w8andsee
Posted by afternoondelight828
I haven't seen any of those articles. Why would they stay someplace for 9 + years without a raise?
From a quick search here are 2 articles:
Daily News
“If it wasn’t for food stamps and Medicare, I wouldn’t be able to take care of myself,” said José Carrillo, 82, a Peruvian immigrant and American citizen who has worked for more than 10 years as a maintenance worker at a Midtown Manhattan McDonald’s. “I have had only a 10-cent raise in all these years.”
The Guardian
"When I started working, [my pay] was around $6.25 at hour. It went up because the minimum wage went up. I get a raise every 6 months, but it's often only 5 cents. The most I've ever seen is a 25 cent raise, but that's hard to get."
Maybe they stay for the same reasons my mom stayed at her minimum wage factory jobs, she didn't have many other options that paid more.
So many things about these 2 stories:
1. 82 years old? Seriously? Why is he working? No social security?
2. This woman was offered a manager job but would not take it for $.50 more an hour BUT I am SURE that would go up in no time if she was a manager.
She commented how she wants to spend more time with her kids AND that she is able to be home with them when they get out of school. That is great but many other mothers are not even able to do that and sacrifice their time so they can afford more things and have them in aftercare.
I am not saying any of these situations are easy but there are many who want it all and it just doesn't work that way in life.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
I did that job for less than 5$ an hour in the late 90$. How could it be worth 15$. I don't think any one will make more. I think they will all be part time employees.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by jessnbrian
Posted by Paramount
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by w8andsee
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by Seawolf
Wait - $15 will be the MAX salary they can make? (one of the last posters just wrote that) - is that true? I am under the impression that it will be the "minimum" that they can make, and they could still get raises, etc? Someone please clarify.
I can't see that as if you are making minimum wage, you get raises too. I would like to see where it says that also.
By 2018 it would be raised in NYC and 2021 elsewhere in NY State.
If you read some of the articles, which I can find in you want. Typically the workers that were interviewed worked for 9+ years never got raises and the ones that did received one raise of 10 cents/hour.
Will they legally be allowed to get a raise? Yes. Will the boss give them raises? I highly doubt it.
I haven't seen any of those articles. Why would they stay someplace for 9 + years without a raise?
Because you need a job. because if you left, you loose all of your seniority (maybe more vacation, better days off, better schedule etc).
I finally left my old job after no raise for 4+ years.
Been with my practice for 3 years, never once have I received a raise.
I've gotten one raise in 4 years. I probably won't get another one for either a long time or at all, and I work for my dad. If I left, I wouldn't be able to find a comparable job that pays what I make with the benefits I get (which actually isn't much). Believe me. I've looked.
It's pretty naive to think that people can just get up and leave a job bc they don't get raises.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by Pumpkin1
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't understand these type of conversations. People keep bashing the 1%ers which is my biggest pet peeve. People work to become the top of their industry and to make the money they do. They are entitled to get whatever they get. If we didn't have people at the top creating and sustaining businesses there would be no minimum wage jobs to even argue about. Why go to college and try to do better. Why go to trade school to learn a profession. If you need to work in fast food or another minimum wage job to support your family, get two jobs just like many of our parents did years ago. Everyone is so entitled it is ridiculous. I didn't realize that we are turning the United States into a socialist society. To pay someone $15 an hour to flip a burger is ludicrous.
No-one argues that CEO's deserve to be paid nicely. The problem is that their compensation has skyrocketed (as well as their golden parachutes) while everyone else's wages have been stagnant. Clearly, profits are being funneled upward and the masses are struggling. Also, there are massive layoffs all while CEO's compensation continues to go through the roof.
People talk about the squeezing out of the middle class, but doesn't anyone realize that its this CEO old boys club that is probably the biggest culprit with its tax evasion tactics and monstrous salaries? The money is not "trickling" down to anyone, its staying pooled up top and those at the top keep increasing the prices of everything.
Look, I am an educated person who has worked in Corporate America for more than 20 years and I make a very decent salary. If you think that these CEOs deserve to be making the money they are making, you are very disillusioned.
http://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-continues-to-rise/
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/05/13/top-ceos-now-make-373-times-the-average-rank-and-file-worker/
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KarenK122
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by Pumpkin1
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't understand these type of conversations. People keep bashing the 1%ers which is my biggest pet peeve. People work to become the top of their industry and to make the money they do. They are entitled to get whatever they get. If we didn't have people at the top creating and sustaining businesses there would be no minimum wage jobs to even argue about. Why go to college and try to do better. Why go to trade school to learn a profession. If you need to work in fast food or another minimum wage job to support your family, get two jobs just like many of our parents did years ago. Everyone is so entitled it is ridiculous. I didn't realize that we are turning the United States into a socialist society. To pay someone $15 an hour to flip a burger is ludicrous.
No-one argues that CEO's deserve to be paid nicely. The problem is that their compensation has skyrocketed (as well as their golden parachutes) while everyone else's wages have been stagnant. Clearly, profits are being funneled upward and the masses are struggling. Also, there are massive layoffs all while CEO's compensation continues to go through the roof.
People talk about the squeezing out of the middle class, but doesn't anyone realize that its this CEO old boys club that is probably the biggest culprit with its tax evasion tactics and monstrous salaries? The money is not "trickling" down to anyone, its staying pooled up top and those at the top keep increasing the prices of everything.
Look, I am an educated person who has worked in Corporate America for more than 20 years and I make a very decent salary. If you think that these CEOs deserve to be making the money they are making, you are very disillusioned.
I am not disillusioned and also educatied. I also worked in Corporate American before I "retired" and worked directly for the CEO of Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and Citigroup. I know exactly what is done at the senior management level and and what trickles down to staff. My husband works in senior management for Microsoft so I know what happens in that industry as well. I also know that senior management for all those firms did not get any raises for multiple years so the staff making under $75,000 could get cost of living increases. I also know of the millions of dollars that are given to programs to help the less fortunate from corporate america as well. I am not saying that I don't think they get paid a lot of money, but they get paid alot of money for doing a job that most of us can not fathom doing. Its not all Lear jets and cocktail parties. We can look into any profession and say the same thing.
But even taking that aside. Now can anyone tell me that working at a fast food restaurant is worth 15 an hour. We have TAs and aides in the school working with our children making less that that. We have bus drivers that make less than that. I can go down the list on other industries that do not have a $15 minimum wage. Maybe instead of increasing the wage they should focus on providing programs to give people the training to give them careers that will support them later in life including the supports to allow them to get the training such as childcare. I would be fully behind that.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
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Make $15/hr for what???? Working in the fast food industry requires exactly NO skill, NO knowledge, NO experience, NO education, and NO expertise. I could teach my 6 yr old that job in minutes and she'd excel. I think the salary is EXACTLY on point for they type of job that it is and I think it's ridiculous to expect to make $15/hr for slinging burgers. It's a job meant for high school kids to make a few bucks or the elderly to keep busy. If you're looking for enough money to live off and support a family then working in fast food is really not where you should be looking.
ETA - JMO but I think realistically, it doesn't matter what the minimum wage rate is because it will NEVER be an amount that is enough for a "livable wage". By definition, it's the LEAST amount of money by law that one can pay someone, how can you ever expect to actually support yourself on that??
Have you ever worked a minimum wage job like this?
I don't know how you grew up, but I didn't get my college education, a car for transport, food money, clothing, etc. after I turned 18. Everything stopped after I turned 18. I didn't have to pay rent, that's it. I was barely able to live off the minimum wage I was making working in various food places. If I had to pay rent, forget it. I still wound up taking out student loans.
Elderly people? Have you seen Social Security checks these days? Yeah, it's not much.
I worked minimum wage jobs ALL through HS and college to pay for my car insurance, gas, and pocket money. However, I'm not sure I understand your point.
It's minimum wage, MINIMUM. I don't know how ANYONE could expect to EVER live off the MINIMUM amount of money one is allowed to be paid. Maybe I'm crazy but I have never considered a minimum wage job to be something where you could remotely expect to fully live off of in any capacity. A minimum wage salary will NEVER be something that can keep up with the high cost of living and inflation.
I stand by what I said, for what little skill/knowledge/experience/education is involved in ANY minimum wage job I think they are paid on point. I don't understand even paying someone $15/hr to make a burger or ring up a purchase, etc. It's mindless work that ANYONE can be trained to do in minutes. I made $6.35/hr when I was younger and working in retail and for what was expected of me, I don't even think back then I deserved more. It was a cr@p job and it paid cr@p money.
Of course. I agree. I worked at two minimum wage jobs when I was in college and I needed money to pay for things. No one expects to feed a family on McD's salary. If you need to do that.. you work two jobs. I can't get behind 15$ an hour for one single industry. What about working at a deli? Don't they then deserve it? Or Game stop? Why one place?
ETA: I am also outraged at the CEO salaries. Even though they went to college and worked hard.. privilege and success is the reason they got into the best colleges and had the best contacts and got the best jobs... most of the time. You don't see too many billionaire ceo's from Hempstead. So, please don't tell me that if anyone who works hard can be the CEO of walmart.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by ElizaRags35
Posted by jessnbrian
Posted by Paramount
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by w8andsee
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by Seawolf
Wait - $15 will be the MAX salary they can make? (one of the last posters just wrote that) - is that true? I am under the impression that it will be the "minimum" that they can make, and they could still get raises, etc? Someone please clarify.
I can't see that as if you are making minimum wage, you get raises too. I would like to see where it says that also.
By 2018 it would be raised in NYC and 2021 elsewhere in NY State.
If you read some of the articles, which I can find in you want. Typically the workers that were interviewed worked for 9+ years never got raises and the ones that did received one raise of 10 cents/hour.
Will they legally be allowed to get a raise? Yes. Will the boss give them raises? I highly doubt it.
I haven't seen any of those articles. Why would they stay someplace for 9 + years without a raise?
Because you need a job. because if you left, you loose all of your seniority (maybe more vacation, better days off, better schedule etc).
I finally left my old job after no raise for 4+ years.
Been with my practice for 3 years, never once have I received a raise.
I've gotten one raise in 4 years. I probably won't get another one for either a long time or at all, and I work for my dad. If I left, I wouldn't be able to find a comparable job that pays what I make with the benefits I get (which actually isn't much). Believe me. I've looked.
It's pretty naive to think that people can just get up and leave a job bc they don't get raises.
Exactly.
I've always thought this, but have never seen it so prevalent, but living on LI, you tend to have a very naive view of what's going on. You can clearly see it in many of these posts. To assume that someone working at FF isn't trying to get better, do better, is naive, and quite honestly, it's racist. For many adults working there, it's either this or working on the streets, I'd much rather see them working at McDonalds and be able to at least eek out a meager existence then be driven to the streets. Also, just as an aside, anyone who thinks that $15/hour at 40hours per week is anything more than a barely decent annual salary is delusional. I'd like to see FF increase benefits more than $$$, but that's another story - they can afford to pay for medical benefits, they can afford to have some sort of tuition payment program, they can afford these things, increase those benefits and you won't need to increase hourly salary the same way.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't understand these type of conversations. People keep bashing the 1%ers which is my biggest pet peeve. People work to become the top of their industry and to make the money they do. They are entitled to get whatever they get. If we didn't have people at the top creating and sustaining businesses there would be no minimum wage jobs to even argue about. Why go to college and try to do better. Why go to trade school to learn a profession. If you need to work in fast food or another minimum wage job to support your family, get two jobs just like many of our parents did years ago. Everyone is so entitled it is ridiculous. I didn't realize that we are turning the United States into a socialist society. To pay someone $15 an hour to flip a burger is ludicrous.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by KarenK122
But even taking that aside. Now can anyone tell me that working at a fast food restaurant is worth 15 an hour. We have TAs and aides in the school working with our children making less that that. We have bus drivers that make less than that. I can go down the list on other industries that do not have a $15 minimum wage. Maybe instead of increasing the wage they should focus on providing programs to give people the training to give them careers that will support them later in life including the supports to allow them to get the training such as childcare. I would be fully behind that.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by Pumpkin1
Posted by KarenK122
I really don't understand these type of conversations. People keep bashing the 1%ers which is my biggest pet peeve. People work to become the top of their industry and to make the money they do. They are entitled to get whatever they get. If we didn't have people at the top creating and sustaining businesses there would be no minimum wage jobs to even argue about. Why go to college and try to do better. Why go to trade school to learn a profession. If you need to work in fast food or another minimum wage job to support your family, get two jobs just like many of our parents did years ago. Everyone is so entitled it is ridiculous. I didn't realize that we are turning the United States into a socialist society. To pay someone $15 an hour to flip a burger is ludicrous.
No-one argues that CEO's deserve to be paid nicely. The problem is that their compensation has skyrocketed (as well as their golden parachutes) while everyone else's wages have been stagnant. Clearly, profits are being funneled upward and the masses are struggling. Also, there are massive layoffs all while CEO's compensation continues to go through the roof.
People talk about the squeezing out of the middle class, but doesn't anyone realize that its this CEO old boys club that is probably the biggest culprit with its tax evasion tactics and monstrous salaries? The money is not "trickling" down to anyone, its staying pooled up top and those at the top keep increasing the prices of everything.
Look, I am an educated person who has worked in Corporate America for more than 20 years and I make a very decent salary. If you think that these CEOs deserve to be making the money they are making, you are very disillusioned.
http://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-continues-to-rise/
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/05/13/top-ceos-now-make-373-times-the-average-rank-and-file-worker/
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by KarenK122
But even taking that aside. Now can anyone tell me that working at a fast food restaurant is worth 15 an hour. We have TAs and aides in the school working with our children making less that that. We have bus drivers that make less than that. I can go down the list on other industries that do not have a $15 minimum wage. Maybe instead of increasing the wage they should focus on providing programs to give people the training to give them careers that will support them later in life including the supports to allow them to get the training such as childcare. I would be fully behind that.
ITA
Definitely not disagreeing with that, I think TA's, EMTs, meidcal office workers, etc etc etc should be paid a LIVING wage, which is not the $10-$15/hour that they get paid.
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Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
It's been said why it's the fast food workers getting the increase and not other industries.
They went on strike, they lobbied, they fought, and they are the lowest wage earners.
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by w8andsee
I’m frankly really surprised at how many people are against a fast food worker making $15/hour. They took the initiative to unite, they went on strike, they lobbied and campaigned for 3 years and got what they think they deserve. From all articles I’ve found so far, fast food workers are not in the union.
There are so many people in this country that will say “I don’t have xyz, why should they”. That’s the argument I hear for any job that may have a higher wage or a better benefit package. They should be saying I don’t have xyz, how do I go about getting that for myself.
Also the argument of why would my child go to college if they can make $15 hour flipping burgers. Your child should strive for more than $15 an hour and if he/she doesn’t they will soon find out that $15/hour is not enough money if you want a home, a car, a vacation here and there, spending money, etc., etc. All the jobs listed on this thread that were compared to the fast food worker are starting salaries with benefits. Eventually they will make much more. My husband works as a civil servant (one of the jobs listed on this thread). He currently is making $18/hour, however in 5 years he’ll be making $36/hour. The fast food worker at $15/hour is at the max pay. They are not getting raises or benefits.
Times have changed. Fast food workers aren’t just high school kids. They are people with families that they need to support. It’s easy to say to them, get an education. My mom is a legal immigrant with an elementary school education. She worked in factories all her life. Currently she’s retired and living off her savings and her social security. If she needed to work now, she would be looking into fast food restaurants. All of the factories she has worked in her 40 years in the US are closed. People don’t have options. You can’t pay me enough to work in a restaurant. I would only do it if I had no other choice. If you think $15 an hour is a fantastic salary for “easy work”, then you go and get a job at a fast food place to make your “easy money” and I will be more than happy as a customer to support you even if the price of my burger goes up. I will greet you with a smile and respect you for working legal job. Also if your restaurant decides to go with automated tellers, I will go out of my way to support the restaurants that have employees working.
i think i love you.
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| Posted 7/28/15 1:29 PM |
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by ElizaRags35
Posted by jessnbrian
Posted by Paramount
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by w8andsee
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by Seawolf
Wait - $15 will be the MAX salary they can make? (one of the last posters just wrote that) - is that true? I am under the impression that it will be the "minimum" that they can make, and they could still get raises, etc? Someone please clarify.
I can't see that as if you are making minimum wage, you get raises too. I would like to see where it says that also.
By 2018 it would be raised in NYC and 2021 elsewhere in NY State.
If you read some of the articles, which I can find in you want. Typically the workers that were interviewed worked for 9+ years never got raises and the ones that did received one raise of 10 cents/hour.
Will they legally be allowed to get a raise? Yes. Will the boss give them raises? I highly doubt it.
I haven't seen any of those articles. Why would they stay someplace for 9 + years without a raise?
Because you need a job. because if you left, you loose all of your seniority (maybe more vacation, better days off, better schedule etc).
I finally left my old job after no raise for 4+ years.
Been with my practice for 3 years, never once have I received a raise.
I've gotten one raise in 4 years. I probably won't get another one for either a long time or at all, and I work for my dad. If I left, I wouldn't be able to find a comparable job that pays what I make with the benefits I get (which actually isn't much). Believe me. I've looked.
It's pretty naive to think that people can just get up and leave a job bc they don't get raises.
I don't think it's naive at all. I got up and walked from 3 different jobs until I found something that paid me what I knew I was worth. It wasn't easy. Not once. But I did it because I deserved more for the work I put out.
I did this living on my own supporting myself and sometimes also while supporting my mother.
It CAN be done.
ETA: I also had to work harder to get the jobs I did because I don't have a degree in my field. I had a lot of competition and was always a little nervous I'd be passed over for someone with the degrees. But, I knew my skill and sold myself/my portfolio and also offered to be tested for a day to show my work. Did what I had to so I could land the job.
There's a difference between comfortable / lazy. And not settling for less
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ElizaRags35
Posted by jessnbrian
Posted by Paramount
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by w8andsee
Posted by afternoondelight828
Posted by Seawolf
Wait - $15 will be the MAX salary they can make? (one of the last posters just wrote that) - is that true? I am under the impression that it will be the "minimum" that they can make, and they could still get raises, etc? Someone please clarify.
I can't see that as if you are making minimum wage, you get raises too. I would like to see where it says that also.
By 2018 it would be raised in NYC and 2021 elsewhere in NY State.
If you read some of the articles, which I can find in you want. Typically the workers that were interviewed worked for 9+ years never got raises and the ones that did received one raise of 10 cents/hour.
Will they legally be allowed to get a raise? Yes. Will the boss give them raises? I highly doubt it.
I haven't seen any of those articles. Why would they stay someplace for 9 + years without a raise?
Because you need a job. because if you left, you loose all of your seniority (maybe more vacation, better days off, better schedule etc).
I finally left my old job after no raise for 4+ years.
Been with my practice for 3 years, never once have I received a raise.
I've gotten one raise in 4 years. I probably won't get another one for either a long time or at all, and I work for my dad. If I left, I wouldn't be able to find a comparable job that pays what I make with the benefits I get (which actually isn't much). Believe me. I've looked.
It's pretty naive to think that people can just get up and leave a job bc they don't get raises.
I don't think it's naive at all. I got up and walked from 3 different jobs until I found something that paid me what I knew I was worth. It wasn't easy. Not once. But I did it because I deserved more for the work I put out.
I did this living on my own supporting myself and sometimes also while supporting my mother.
It CAN be done.
and if you are waiting over 9 years for a raise, it SHOULD be done and it is no one else's fault but your own if you are going that long without a raise or some other financial benefit.
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| Posted 7/28/15 1:42 PM |
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gina409
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by ElizaRags35
It's been said why it's the fast food workers getting the increase and not other industries.
They went on strike, they lobbied, they fought, and they are the lowest wage earners.
Can a ems or some of the other jobs mentioned strike too?
Who does those jobs then? I'm legit have no clue and curious
So like if the ems or firefighter wants to strike so they can get the same pay can they?
Can any job?
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DaniJude
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Just saw this article - thought it was interesting:
Yahoo News
15 Jobs That Earn Less Than $15/Hour Article
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by gina409
Posted by ElizaRags35
It's been said why it's the fast food workers getting the increase and not other industries.
They went on strike, they lobbied, they fought, and they are the lowest wage earners.
Can a ems or some of the other jobs mentioned strike too?
Who does those jobs then? I'm legit have no clue and curious
So like if the ems or firefighter wants to strike so they can get the same pay can they?
Can any job?
Public employees- police, EMS, fire, teachers (in NYC, not sure about elsewhere) are not allowed to strike under the Taylor law.
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w8andsee
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Re: Thoughts on fast food minimum wage raise?
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by gina409
Posted by ElizaRags35
It's been said why it's the fast food workers getting the increase and not other industries.
They went on strike, they lobbied, they fought, and they are the lowest wage earners.
Can a ems or some of the other jobs mentioned strike too?
Who does those jobs then? I'm legit have no clue and curious
So like if the ems or firefighter wants to strike so they can get the same pay can they?
Can any job?
Public employees- police, EMS, fire, teachers (in NYC, not sure about elsewhere) are not allowed to strike under the Taylor law.
Public employees have contracts with the city. Starting salaries are low but after 5 years they are at top pay.
NYC Firefighter - starts at $39,370, after 5 years $76,488
NYC EMT - starts at $31,931, after 5 years $45,834
NYPD - starts $41,975, after 5.5 years $76,488
Those salaries listed are base. They do not include OT or benefits. NYC employees get free or low cost health insurance and other benefits that make it worth it to take the job starting at a lower pay.
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