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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
I am responding to a few posters so I am not going to quote one in particular, but the actor's tweet was pretty bad. No in is grasping at straws. He's saying that black men should go out on St. Patrick's Day because it will be easier to hook up with a white woman that day. It will be easier because they are DRUNK. I can't help but see the hypocrisy here after the Brock Turner case. Everyone on here should be appalled by his comment. Maybe none of you are Irish and have never been to the St. Patrick's Day parade so you can't appreciate the level of intoxication of many women on this day.
No one is saying white women will not hook up with black guys or that when a black man hooks up with a white woman it's automatically rape. Honestly if I had a friend who tweeted the same thing without the racial sidebar - just "hey guys, everyone who wants to get lucky today has a great shot because all the women will be wasted!" I would be equally upset about that. It's in very poor taste.
However, I feel bad for this actor because what was said after the play was not even HIS statement. He didn't write it, he only read it. Now he is in the spotlight too.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
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Is this the entire tweet?
St. Patty's day weekend is like Christmas for black dudes who like white chicks. Happy holidays boys.
How is that encouraging rape? Sorry but since when is the only way a black male and white female have sex is when there is a rape involved?
Really. There is nothing here that says "take advantage of drunk white girls!"
Some people are way over-interpreting this.
ETA- it's also interesting that people are making assumptions about this guy's character based on ONE tweet. If that was the case, Trump would have been out of the running right away.
No, add that with the guy having the nerve to call attention to the VP of the US by putting him on notice at a play he was attending for leisure (not business). That's t the clear hypocrisy of this guy. If he wants to speak for racial equality, then he shouldn't ever be caught encouraging men based on their color to hit on women based on their color and sobriety status.
You are clearly grasping at straws.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by lululu
I am responding to a few posters so I am not going to quote one in particular, but the actor's tweet was pretty bad. No in is grasping at straws. He's saying that black men should go out on St. Patrick's Day because it will be easier to hook up with a white woman that day. It will be easier because they are DRUNK. I can't help but see the hypocrisy here after the Brock Turner case. Everyone on here should be appalled by his comment. Maybe none of you are Irish and have never been to the St. Patrick's Day parade so you can't appreciate the level of intoxication of many women on this day.
No one is saying white women will not hook up with black guys or that when a black man hooks up with a white woman it's automatically rape. Honestly if I had a friend who tweeted the same thing without the racial sidebar - just "hey guys, everyone who wants to get lucky today has a great shot because all the women will be wasted!" I would be equally upset about that. It's in very poor taste.
However, I feel bad for this actor because what was said after the play was not even HIS statement. He didn't write it, he only read it. Now he is in the spotlight too.
I will agree that tweet is in poor taste. I don't think it's as horrible as some are making it out to be- for instance I don't think it even compares to what our President Elect said about how his rich privilege gives him the right to sexually assault women.
However, I have NO idea what that tweet has to do with the cast of Hamilton as whole making a plea to the VP elect. It was done in a respectful, tasteful way and the fact that this is a political show makes it an appropriate stage in my opinion. If even Pence wasn't upset, what's the big deal? Oh right, to distract from all the horrible press Trump should be dealing with.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
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Posted by lululu
I am responding to a few posters so I am not going to quote one in particular, but the actor's tweet was pretty bad. No in is grasping at straws. He's saying that black men should go out on St. Patrick's Day because it will be easier to hook up with a white woman that day. It will be easier because they are DRUNK. I can't help but see the hypocrisy here after the Brock Turner case. Everyone on here should be appalled by his comment. Maybe none of you are Irish and have never been to the St. Patrick's Day parade so you can't appreciate the level of intoxication of many women on this day.
No one is saying white women will not hook up with black guys or that when a black man hooks up with a white woman it's automatically rape. Honestly if I had a friend who tweeted the same thing without the racial sidebar - just "hey guys, everyone who wants to get lucky today has a great shot because all the women will be wasted!" I would be equally upset about that. It's in very poor taste.
However, I feel bad for this actor because what was said after the play was not even HIS statement. He didn't write it, he only read it. Now he is in the spotlight too.
I will agree that tweet is in poor taste. I don't think it's as horrible as some are making it out to be- for instance I don't think it even compares to what our President Elect said about how his rich privilege gives him the right to sexually assault women.
However, I have NO idea what that tweet has to do with the cast of Hamilton as whole making a plea to the VP elect. It was done in a respectful, tasteful way and the fact that this is a political show makes it an appropriate stage in my opinion. If even Pence wasn't upset, what's the big deal? Oh right, to distract from all the horrible press Trump should be dealing with.
Exactly!
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by lululu
I am responding to a few posters so I am not going to quote one in particular, but the actor's tweet was pretty bad. No in is grasping at straws. He's saying that black men should go out on St. Patrick's Day because it will be easier to hook up with a white woman that day. It will be easier because they are DRUNK. I can't help but see the hypocrisy here after the Brock Turner case. Everyone on here should be appalled by his comment. Maybe none of you are Irish and have never been to the St. Patrick's Day parade so you can't appreciate the level of intoxication of many women on this day.
No one is saying white women will not hook up with black guys or that when a black man hooks up with a white woman it's automatically rape. Honestly if I had a friend who tweeted the same thing without the racial sidebar - just "hey guys, everyone who wants to get lucky today has a great shot because all the women will be wasted!" I would be equally upset about that. It's in very poor taste.
However, I feel bad for this actor because what was said after the play was not even HIS statement. He didn't write it, he only read it. Now he is in the spotlight too.
If the actor's tweet was "pretty bad" but you voted for Trump after EVERYTHING he said, the hypocrisy is just stunning.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
*THIS*
Who cares what we think??
The man to whom it was directed at took it with grace (which I was honestly surprised about!)
We can all toss stones but the sentiment was there. It's their right to speak their mind during the performance. It's been the forum and the place for such action for decades!
It was said, it was done.
The future VP responded. You guys all said you HOPE they do a better job you HOPE they show better colors you HOPE they lead the country well and when they do something that even pretends to act like the right thing in face of obvious taunting we can't just sniff and say "well then" and move on?
I wouldn't expect you to give him kudos or a well done.. but a "fine then" would be about right.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
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Posted by lululu
I am responding to a few posters so I am not going to quote one in particular, but the actor's tweet was pretty bad. No in is grasping at straws. He's saying that black men should go out on St. Patrick's Day because it will be easier to hook up with a white woman that day. It will be easier because they are DRUNK. I can't help but see the hypocrisy here after the Brock Turner case. Everyone on here should be appalled by his comment. Maybe none of you are Irish and have never been to the St. Patrick's Day parade so you can't appreciate the level of intoxication of many women on this day.
No one is saying white women will not hook up with black guys or that when a black man hooks up with a white woman it's automatically rape. Honestly if I had a friend who tweeted the same thing without the racial sidebar - just "hey guys, everyone who wants to get lucky today has a great shot because all the women will be wasted!" I would be equally upset about that. It's in very poor taste.
However, I feel bad for this actor because what was said after the play was not even HIS statement. He didn't write it, he only read it. Now he is in the spotlight too.
If the actor's tweet was "pretty bad" but you voted for Trump after EVERYTHING he said, the hypocrisy is just stunning.
I am assuming you are referring to this quote:
“I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her,...And when you’re a star they let you do it, ....Grab them by the *****. You can do anything.”
I think that the one difference in this statement, and others will wholeheartedly disagree I am sure, is that he says "they let you do it." He is really not talking about ASSAULTING anyone. He is saying they let him do it because he is a star. It's shameful, but I don't believe he is talking about assault or even really taking advantage of women. He's not saying, she's incapacitated to the point she can't say no, so I am going to take advantage of that and do what I want.
And for the record I have never once said who I did or didn't vote for, and I have firmly maintained that I am not a Trump or Hilary supporter. 
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
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Posted by lululu
I am responding to a few posters so I am not going to quote one in particular, but the actor's tweet was pretty bad. No in is grasping at straws. He's saying that black men should go out on St. Patrick's Day because it will be easier to hook up with a white woman that day. It will be easier because they are DRUNK. I can't help but see the hypocrisy here after the Brock Turner case. Everyone on here should be appalled by his comment. Maybe none of you are Irish and have never been to the St. Patrick's Day parade so you can't appreciate the level of intoxication of many women on this day.
No one is saying white women will not hook up with black guys or that when a black man hooks up with a white woman it's automatically rape. Honestly if I had a friend who tweeted the same thing without the racial sidebar - just "hey guys, everyone who wants to get lucky today has a great shot because all the women will be wasted!" I would be equally upset about that. It's in very poor taste.
However, I feel bad for this actor because what was said after the play was not even HIS statement. He didn't write it, he only read it. Now he is in the spotlight too.
If the actor's tweet was "pretty bad" but you voted for Trump after EVERYTHING he said, the hypocrisy is just stunning.
I am assuming you are referring to this quote:
“I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her,...And when you’re a star they let you do it, ....Grab them by the *****. You can do anything.”
I think that the one difference in this statement, and others will wholeheartedly disagree I am sure, is that he says "they let you do it." He is really not talking about ASSAULTING anyone. He is saying they let him do it because he is a star. It's shameful, but I don't believe he is talking about assault or even really taking advantage of women. He's not saying, she's incapacitated to the point she can't say no, so I am going to take advantage of that and do what I want.
And for the record I have never once said who I did or didn't vote for, and I have firmly maintained that I am not a Trump or Hilary supporter.
I don't think you came off as a Trump supporter, but to say he's not promoting sexual assault with that quote is ridiculous. You left out the part where he said he wouldn't even wait, he just starts doing it. If you assume the tweet from the Hamilton cast member is about raping drunk women, you have to assume Trump is talking about not waiting for consent. Personally, I think Trump's was absolutely worse. Just because someone is drunk doesn't mean they can't give consent, let's be real here. There's a difference between being black out drunk like the Brock Turner case and being drunk and a little more free from your inhibitions.
ETA: But that's neither here nor there- we can both agree that has nothing to do with the Hamilton casts message to Pence nor Trump's reaction to it. It's just another diversion from more important things.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
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Posted by lululu
I am responding to a few posters so I am not going to quote one in particular, but the actor's tweet was pretty bad. No in is grasping at straws. He's saying that black men should go out on St. Patrick's Day because it will be easier to hook up with a white woman that day. It will be easier because they are DRUNK. I can't help but see the hypocrisy here after the Brock Turner case. Everyone on here should be appalled by his comment. Maybe none of you are Irish and have never been to the St. Patrick's Day parade so you can't appreciate the level of intoxication of many women on this day.
No one is saying white women will not hook up with black guys or that when a black man hooks up with a white woman it's automatically rape. Honestly if I had a friend who tweeted the same thing without the racial sidebar - just "hey guys, everyone who wants to get lucky today has a great shot because all the women will be wasted!" I would be equally upset about that. It's in very poor taste.
However, I feel bad for this actor because what was said after the play was not even HIS statement. He didn't write it, he only read it. Now he is in the spotlight too.
If the actor's tweet was "pretty bad" but you voted for Trump after EVERYTHING he said, the hypocrisy is just stunning.
I am assuming you are referring to this quote:
“I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her,...And when you’re a star they let you do it, ....Grab them by the *****. You can do anything.”
I think that the one difference in this statement, and others will wholeheartedly disagree I am sure, is that he says "they let you do it." He is really not talking about ASSAULTING anyone. He is saying they let him do it because he is a star. It's shameful, but I don't believe he is talking about assault or even really taking advantage of women. He's not saying, she's incapacitated to the point she can't say no, so I am going to take advantage of that and do what I want.
And for the record I have never once said who I did or didn't vote for, and I have firmly maintained that I am not a Trump or Hilary supporter.
You left out the "I don't even wait." Was that on purpose?
And yes, I do recall you saying you were not a Trump supporter. However, so did many politicians who ultimately voted for him reluctantly, or even continued to endorse him.
You obviously have no obligation to share who you voted for. It is your right to keep it private. However, you said in a recent post that you identified more closely with him and you responded in a thread looking for an explanation for Trump's appeal. After those posts, your response in this thread, and other posts you've made, a reasonable person would think you voted for him.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by Xelindrya
*THIS*
Who cares what we think??
The man to whom it was directed at took it with grace (which I was honestly surprised about!)
We can all toss stones but the sentiment was there. It's their right to speak their mind during the performance. It's been the forum and the place for such action for decades!
It was said, it was done.
The future VP responded. You guys all said you HOPE they do a better job you HOPE they show better colors you HOPE they lead the country well and when they do something that even pretends to act like the right thing in face of obvious taunting we can't just sniff and say "well then" and move on?
I wouldn't expect you to give him kudos or a well done.. but a "fine then" would be about right.
The thread was started by a Trump supporter.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by Xelindrya
*THIS*
Who cares what we think??
The man to whom it was directed at took it with grace (which I was honestly surprised about!)
We can all toss stones but the sentiment was there. It's their right to speak their mind during the performance. It's been the forum and the place for such action for decades!
It was said, it was done.
The future VP responded. You guys all said you HOPE they do a better job you HOPE they show better colors you HOPE they lead the country well and when they do something that even pretends to act like the right thing in face of obvious taunting we can't just sniff and say "well then" and move on?
I wouldn't expect you to give him kudos or a well done.. but a "fine then" would be about right.
ITA. I will freely give credit where credit is due....
http://variety.com/2016/legit/news/mike-pence-responds-hamilton-donald-trump-1201923120/
“It was a real joy to be there,” Pence told Chris Wallace in an appearance on “Fox News Sunday.” “When we arrived, we heard a few boos and we heard some cheers and I nudged my kids and reminded them, that’s what freedom sounds like.”
“I did hear what was said from the stage, and I can tell you I wasn’t offended by what was said. I’ll leave to others whether that was the appropriate venue to say it,” he added. He also praised the show as “incredible,” and complimented the “incredibly talented” cast.
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That's the measured response we expect from the top leaders of our country.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Theater has been the platform for political statements since at least Shakespeare....
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I still have major concerns about Mike Pence and his stance on LGBT issues and women's issues. But it was good to see him take it in stride and behave like an adult. Unlike Trump.
Do we really think Pence paid for those tickets out of his pocket? Though it's small change compared to what it will cost us to protect Trump Tower when he decides to work from home instead of staying in DC. And the fact that he will likely write off the $25 million settlement.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Disagree. I haven't gone to too many shows but I've gone to a few where the cast addressed the audience regarding a cause. This was their cause.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
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Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Theater has been the platform for political statements since at least Shakespeare....
Thank you! Theater and the arts has been used for centuries to make political statements. It was absolutely the appropriate time to make such a powerful statement.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by Xelindrya
*THIS*
Who cares what we think??
The man to whom it was directed at took it with grace (which I was honestly surprised about!)
We can all toss stones but the sentiment was there. It's their right to speak their mind during the performance. It's been the forum and the place for such action for decades!
It was said, it was done.
The future VP responded. You guys all said you HOPE they do a better job you HOPE they show better colors you HOPE they lead the country well and when they do something that even pretends to act like the right thing in face of obvious taunting we can't just sniff and say "well then" and move on?
I wouldn't expect you to give him kudos or a well done.. but a "fine then" would be about right.
I totally give him credit! I think I mentioned it in my post even.. And I'm sure you all know that I think the way Pence breathes is wrong. 
BUT... he said he wasn't offended, he was a gentleman about it, and we should move on, and I'm sure we all would except for our soon to be toddler-in-chief, throwing an epic tempter tantrum on social media because half the country disagrees with his ideolgy.
Just for clarity, Trump scares me because he's a thin-skinned buffoon who can't keep his sh*t together and isn't fit to be the face of our nation. Pence scares me because he gives every appearance of a rational, effective leader. Listening to him speak, I could even grow like him... that is until I remember what he stands for.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by eroxgirl
Posted by Xelindrya
*THIS*
Who cares what we think??
The man to whom it was directed at took it with grace (which I was honestly surprised about!)
We can all toss stones but the sentiment was there. It's their right to speak their mind during the performance. It's been the forum and the place for such action for decades!
It was said, it was done.
The future VP responded. You guys all said you HOPE they do a better job you HOPE they show better colors you HOPE they lead the country well and when they do something that even pretends to act like the right thing in face of obvious taunting we can't just sniff and say "well then" and move on?
I wouldn't expect you to give him kudos or a well done.. but a "fine then" would be about right.
I totally give him credit! I think I mentioned it in my post even.. And I'm sure you all know that I think the way Pence breathes is wrong.
BUT... he said he wasn't offended, he was a gentleman about it, and we should move on, and I'm sure we all would except for our soon to be toddler-in-chief, throwing an epic tempter tantrum on social media because half the country disagrees with his ideolgy.
Just for clarity, Trump scares me because he's a thin-skinned buffoon who can't keep his sh*t together and isn't fit to be the face of our nation. Pence scares me because he gives every appearance of a rational, effective leader. Listening to him speak, I could even grow like him... that is until I remember what he stands for.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by JennP
You left out the "I don't even wait." Was that on purpose?
And yes, I do recall you saying you were not a Trump supporter. However, so did many politicians who ultimately voted for him reluctantly, or even continued to endorse him.
You obviously have no obligation to share who you voted for. It is your right to keep it private. However, you said in a recent post that you identified more closely with him and you responded in a thread looking for an explanation for Trump's appeal. After those posts, your response in this thread, and other posts you've made, a reasonable person would think you voted for him.
Nope - did not leave that out on purpose. Don't think it's relevant when he already said they let him do it.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
At least Pence handled it well. And like a professional.
Trump should take a lesson from him
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by ElizaRags35
Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Disagree. I haven't gone to too many shows but I've gone to a few where the cast addressed the audience regarding a cause. This was their cause.
ITA! I have been to many shows and there was a cause they spoke about at the end for almost every performance. Last I saw Aladdin and they were collecting donations for "Broadway Cares - FIght AIDS"
This was this show's cause. Even Pence said he wasn't offended.
BTW - I think Trump is just using it to his advantage bc notice how no one is talking about the 2 mil settlement?!
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by EricaAlt
Posted by ElizaRags35
Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Disagree. I haven't gone to too many shows but I've gone to a few where the cast addressed the audience regarding a cause. This was their cause.
ITA! I have been to many shows and there was a cause they spoke about at the end for almost every performance. Last I saw Aladdin and they were collecting donations for "Broadway Cares - FIght AIDS"
This was this show's cause. Even Pence said he wasn't offended.
BTW - I think Trump is just using it to his advantage bc notice how no one is talking about the 25 mil settlement?!
The settlement that he said he never does because he's the greatest negotiator, and it basically admits his guilt in defrauding middle-class Americans? He also needs to keep the fake anger up against "them" (doesn't matter who "they" are.... media, "liberals", etc...). As long as he can misdirect everyone's anger at anything but him, he thinks he can avoid all of the negative things being focused on him....
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
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Posted by JennP
You left out the "I don't even wait." Was that on purpose?
And yes, I do recall you saying you were not a Trump supporter. However, so did many politicians who ultimately voted for him reluctantly, or even continued to endorse him.
You obviously have no obligation to share who you voted for. It is your right to keep it private. However, you said in a recent post that you identified more closely with him and you responded in a thread looking for an explanation for Trump's appeal. After those posts, your response in this thread, and other posts you've made, a reasonable person would think you voted for him.
Nope - did not leave that out on purpose. Don't think it's relevant when he already said they let him do it.
The whole quote:
"I’ve gotta use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything… Grab them by the *****. You can do anything."
"I don't even wait" clearly comes before "they let you do it."
If he has already started, "let" is a misnomer. He has not given them a chance to "let" him, therefore they haven't. Maybe they DON'T want the kiss. Maybe they are scared, intimidated, physically unable to push him away, etc.
It's sexual assault.
Why does anyone even have to define this?
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Message edited 11/21/2016 12:17:40 PM.
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| Posted 11/21/16 12:17 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by JennP
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Posted by JennP
You left out the "I don't even wait." Was that on purpose?
And yes, I do recall you saying you were not a Trump supporter. However, so did many politicians who ultimately voted for him reluctantly, or even continued to endorse him.
You obviously have no obligation to share who you voted for. It is your right to keep it private. However, you said in a recent post that you identified more closely with him and you responded in a thread looking for an explanation for Trump's appeal. After those posts, your response in this thread, and other posts you've made, a reasonable person would think you voted for him.
Nope - did not leave that out on purpose. Don't think it's relevant when he already said they let him do it.
The whole quote:
"I’ve gotta use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything… Grab them by the *****. You can do anything."
"I don't even wait" clearly comes before "they let you do it."
If he has already started, "let" is a misnomer. He has not given them a chance to "let" him, therefore they haven't. Maybe they DON'T want the kiss. Maybe they are scared, intimidated, physically unable to push him away, etc.
It's sexual assault.
Why does anyone even have to define this?
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I honestly do not take it the same way that you do. I do NOT think he is referring to sexually assaulting women. I don't think he ever "had to" because there are so many women out there who are willing to hook up with men who are rich and powerful or have celebrity status. It actually annoys me that there are so many women out there like this because it gives us all a bad rap. Right before this comment he is talking about how he was trying to sleep with a married woman and she rejected him.
Regardless, it's embarrassing that he was speaking like that. He does a million embarrassing things. I think that responding to what happened at the show on Twitter is a ridiculous waste of our future president's time. It shouldn't even be on his radar when he has so many other important things to worry about.
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| Posted 11/21/16 12:38 PM |
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by eroxgirl
This was done art curtain call.. Where there are often pleas for support for one cause or another are made by cast at the of a show. Hamilton is a political show made up of the very people Pence has legislated against Indiana. It was a once a lifetime opportunity for them say their peace and have him listen. He wasn't held hostage, he could have left. The show had already ended.
And Pence wasn't offended, why do we even care?
Because trump is a child who can't handle the pressure of the office? Because wants detract from his trump u settlement? All the above?
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