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MarisaK
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by Summergrl14
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Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Theater has been the platform for political statements since at least Shakespeare....
Thank you! Theater and the arts has been used for centuries to make political statements. It was absolutely the appropriate time to make such a powerful statement.
The PLAY itself, as written and performed, yes of course, I'm not an idiot !! -
But that's not what this was. This was the cast of play taking the time to use the stage to make a political statement OUTSIDE of there performance. I am NO Trump/Pence supporter by any stretch ......but I don't think it was the time or place for it. You get paid to perform, to act, not to stand up on that stage and speak YOUR mind -
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Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
It was done at the end. Not in the middle of it. Not disruptive.
But the drunken trump supporter interrupted them in the middle actually. That's rude. I don't see calls for him to apologize.
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| Posted 11/21/16 1:13 PM |
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oneday
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by MarisaK
Posted by Summergrl14
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Theater has been the platform for political statements since at least Shakespeare....
Thank you! Theater and the arts has been used for centuries to make political statements. It was absolutely the appropriate time to make such a powerful statement.
The PLAY itself, as written and performed, yes of course, I'm not an idiot !! -
But that's not what this was. This was the cast of play taking the time to use the stage to make a political statement OUTSIDE of there performance. I am NO Trump/Pence supporter by any stretch ......but I don't think it was the time or place for it. You get paid to perform, to act, not to stand up on that stage and speak YOUR mind -
I respectfully disagree.
It was after the show. The show was over. Anyone could have (and Pence did) left the room without missing any part of it. I could understand if it was during the intermission or in the middle of the play. If it was then, and someone wanted to leave because of that it would have been like them throwing away their money. But the play was over. What they came for was over.
And it wasn't the actor speaking "his mind." It wasn't written by him - he was asked to say it by the producers.
And it was in no way rude and I don't see how simply reminding the VP elect to make sure he is working in the best interest of ALL of the country is a horrible thing. Especially when a good portion of those on stage were the people he has worked against over the years.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by MarisaK
Posted by Summergrl14
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Theater has been the platform for political statements since at least Shakespeare....
Thank you! Theater and the arts has been used for centuries to make political statements. It was absolutely the appropriate time to make such a powerful statement.
The PLAY itself, as written and performed, yes of course, I'm not an idiot !! -
But that's not what this was. This was the cast of play taking the time to use the stage to make a political statement OUTSIDE of there performance. I am NO Trump/Pence supporter by any stretch ......but I don't think it was the time or place for it. You get paid to perform, to act, not to stand up on that stage and speak YOUR mind -
Wasn't it done after the play was over?
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Chai77
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by oneday
Posted by MarisaK
Posted by Summergrl14
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by MarisaK
Bottom line - it wasn't the time or place for politics.
People pay a small fortune to attend a performance. That's your job, perform. The End. Using the stage for political statements is inappropriate.
Theater has been the platform for political statements since at least Shakespeare....
Thank you! Theater and the arts has been used for centuries to make political statements. It was absolutely the appropriate time to make such a powerful statement.
The PLAY itself, as written and performed, yes of course, I'm not an idiot !! -
But that's not what this was. This was the cast of play taking the time to use the stage to make a political statement OUTSIDE of there performance. I am NO Trump/Pence supporter by any stretch ......but I don't think it was the time or place for it. You get paid to perform, to act, not to stand up on that stage and speak YOUR mind -
I respectfully disagree.
It was after the show. The show was over. Anyone could have (and Pence did) left the room without missing any part of it. I could understand if it was during the intermission or in the middle of the play. If it was then, and someone wanted to leave because of that it would have been like them throwing away their money. But the play was over. What they came for was over.
And it wasn't the actor speaking "his mind." It wasn't written by him - he was asked to say it by the producers.
And it was in no way rude and I don't see how simply reminding the VP elect to make sure he is working in the best interest of ALL of the country is a horrible thing. Especially when a good portion of those on stage were the people he has worked against over the years.
ITA.
I will add that I think Pence should apologize for his anti-woman and anti-gay acts. As Donald said in his twitter temper tantrum: "Apologize!"
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
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Posted by JennP
You left out the "I don't even wait." Was that on purpose?
And yes, I do recall you saying you were not a Trump supporter. However, so did many politicians who ultimately voted for him reluctantly, or even continued to endorse him.
You obviously have no obligation to share who you voted for. It is your right to keep it private. However, you said in a recent post that you identified more closely with him and you responded in a thread looking for an explanation for Trump's appeal. After those posts, your response in this thread, and other posts you've made, a reasonable person would think you voted for him.
Nope - did not leave that out on purpose. Don't think it's relevant when he already said they let him do it.
The whole quote:
"I’ve gotta use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything… Grab them by the *****. You can do anything."
"I don't even wait" clearly comes before "they let you do it."
If he has already started, "let" is a misnomer. He has not given them a chance to "let" him, therefore they haven't. Maybe they DON'T want the kiss. Maybe they are scared, intimidated, physically unable to push him away, etc.
It's sexual assault.
Why does anyone even have to define this?
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I honestly do not take it the same way that you do. I do NOT think he is referring to sexually assaulting women. I don't think he ever "had to" because there are so many women out there who are willing to hook up with men who are rich and powerful or have celebrity status. It actually annoys me that there are so many women out there like this because it gives us all a bad rap. Right before this comment he is talking about how he was trying to sleep with a married woman and she rejected him.
Regardless, it's embarrassing that he was speaking like that. He does a million embarrassing things. I think that responding to what happened at the show on Twitter is a ridiculous waste of our future president's time. It shouldn't even be on his radar when he has so many other important things to worry about.
Well many victims of sexual assault would disagree with you. So whether you see it that way or not, many do and their opinion matters.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by Megs1234
Many/most states have laws that regarding a person consenting to sex if they are incapacitated by alcohol. This guy's tweet was clearly aimed at black men hitting on white women since they would be impaired in their judgement due to alcohol on St. Patrick's day. That's why it's "Christmas" morning for black men in his tweet, so many presents to open!
So much for fair and just coming from this big mouth.
all of this nonsense about what the actor may have said in some old tweet is totally and utterly irrelevant to what he said on stage.
So, because he said something questionable a few years ago, that means that you can't take whatever he says now seriously?
please
talk about distraction from the real issue.
and ftr, i do think Pence responded correctly - if not a little too late. It's the president elect who's the loose cannon here, and if he's getting his panties in a twist over this.. what the heck is he going to do when faced with real decisions? oh, nothing.. he'll be too busy tweeting about SNL.
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Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Man this tactic really worked getting the focus off Trump settling a multi million dollar lawsuit huh? Because he totally scammed hard working , well -intentioned people who wanted a better life.
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MarisaK
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
I retract my statement -
I misunderstood and thought they actually STOPPED their performance and spoke in the middle of the show.
I have zero issue with it done when the show was over
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by MarisaK
I retract my statement -
I misunderstood and thought they actually STOPPED their performance and spoke in the middle of the show.
I have zero issue with it done when the show was over
Maybe you got it mixed up with the drunk trump supporter the other night who caused a scene and who I believe yelled "f*ck you".  
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GoldenRod
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by MarisaK
I retract my statement -
I misunderstood and thought they actually STOPPED their performance and spoke in the middle of the show.
I have zero issue with it done when the show was over
Yes, given that perspective, I could definitely see being upset....
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Man this tactic really worked getting the focus off Trump settling a multi million dollar lawsuit huh? Because he totally scammed hard working , well -intentioned people who wanted a better life.
Yes also took all the attention off his horrible appointments, his massive conflicts of interest, etc
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Chai77
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Man this tactic really worked getting the focus off Trump settling a multi million dollar lawsuit huh? Because he totally scammed hard working , well -intentioned people who wanted a better life.
Bingo!
That and I truly think his ego is that fragile that these protests and statements feel like attacks to him and he goes nuts.
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Man this tactic really worked getting the focus off Trump settling a multi million dollar lawsuit huh? Because he totally scammed hard working , well -intentioned people who wanted a better life.
Yup.
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by Megs1234
Many/most states have laws that regarding a person consenting to sex if they are incapacitated by alcohol. This guy's tweet was clearly aimed at black men hitting on white women since they would be impaired in their judgement due to alcohol on St. Patrick's day. That's why it's "Christmas" morning for black men in his tweet, so many presents to open!
So much for fair and just coming from this big mouth.
I don't see it as "clearly aimed at black men hitting on white women" Why does it have to be interpreted as black men hitting on white women and not the white women hitting on the black men?
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by JennP
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I am responding to a few posters so I am not going to quote one in particular, but the actor's tweet was pretty bad. No in is grasping at straws. He's saying that black men should go out on St. Patrick's Day because it will be easier to hook up with a white woman that day. It will be easier because they are DRUNK. I can't help but see the hypocrisy here after the Brock Turner case. Everyone on here should be appalled by his comment. Maybe none of you are Irish and have never been to the St. Patrick's Day parade so you can't appreciate the level of intoxication of many women on this day.
No one is saying white women will not hook up with black guys or that when a black man hooks up with a white woman it's automatically rape. Honestly if I had a friend who tweeted the same thing without the racial sidebar - just "hey guys, everyone who wants to get lucky today has a great shot because all the women will be wasted!" I would be equally upset about that. It's in very poor taste.
However, I feel bad for this actor because what was said after the play was not even HIS statement. He didn't write it, he only read it. Now he is in the spotlight too.
If the actor's tweet was "pretty bad" but you voted for Trump after EVERYTHING he said, the hypocrisy is just stunning.
Right?!
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Man this tactic really worked getting the focus off Trump settling a multi million dollar lawsuit huh? Because he totally scammed hard working , well -intentioned people who wanted a better life.
Ding ding ding!
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Re: Thoughts on what happened at Hamilton?
While I applaud the Hamilton cast for expressing their thoughts, i dont think doing so on stage after the show was appropriate. If I were an audience member, I would have felt annoyed at being subject to listening to a political speech when all I want to do is watch a show.
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