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justhappy
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by stephanief
Posted by justhappy
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Posted by Mrs-D-Girl
I am sure that when educating people, your intent is to not turn them away from this board and it seems that is what is happening here.
Whether you girls are seeing it or not, this is true. What you're doing ("educating") is turning away people from this board because your approach is all wrong. Maybe finding a different approach would benefit everyone! 
Or maybe people understanding that this is a very important issue and to either accept that or skip the post
no one is saying that it's not an important issue. But beating someone over the head with it isn't too effective sometimes and that's what you are doing sometimes (whether you see it or not). I was trying to be nice and offer a suggestion as to get your point across to more people without offending them, but i guess you're too defensive for that. My mistake.
OK, now you are just being silly. NO ONE IS BEATING ANYONE OVER THE HEAD. I think some people are just too sensitive for the truth
no need to start any more drama, save it please
I'm not starting drama. I'm simply stating my opinion. My opinion in which you obviously can't take. 
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by stephanief
Posted by justhappy
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Please don't make it sound like every thread is dragged into it. 2 of 25, don't see what is so intolerable about that.
exactly, and Diane, I hate to say this and please don't take this the wrong way but I wonder if part of your gripe is out of guilt? I may be off base but that was my first impression
That's not fair! There are tons of us on here who feel the same way as she does (i got my dog from a breeder and my 2 cats from a shelter) and i am one of those people.
relax, fair or not, that was my first impression
I can not understand how any TRUE pet lover can get mad/upset whatever over people trying to bring to light the horrors of puppy mills....this is the real world, this is really what happens to the moms of those "cute" puppy store dogs
And I agree. I too would think a true pet lover would accept the intent and realize others (not them) DO need to read more and hear more.
If two threads out of 25 on one page turn you off and is beating you over your head re puppy mills, and if you feel the message is being said the wrong way, then yes, please do tell how and when and where is a way you think would be more effective.
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pinkandblue
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by justhappy
Posted by stephanief
Posted by justhappy
Posted by stephanief
Posted by justhappy
Posted by Mrs-D-Girl
I am sure that when educating people, your intent is to not turn them away from this board and it seems that is what is happening here.
Whether you girls are seeing it or not, this is true. What you're doing ("educating") is turning away people from this board because your approach is all wrong. Maybe finding a different approach would benefit everyone!
Or maybe people understanding that this is a very important issue and to either accept that or skip the post
no one is saying that it's not an important issue. But beating someone over the head with it isn't too effective sometimes and that's what you are doing sometimes (whether you see it or not). I was trying to be nice and offer a suggestion as to get your point across to more people without offending them, but i guess you're too defensive for that. My mistake.
OK, now you are just being silly. NO ONE IS BEATING ANYONE OVER THE HEAD. I think some people are just too sensitive for the truth
no need to start any more drama, save it please
I'm not starting drama. I'm simply stating my opinion. My opinion in which you obviously can't take.
Ok, whatever. I also was stating my opinion, but I guess yours is the only one that matters. I am done, this is stupid
I WILL continue to post on any thread I choose. You can choose to read it or not 
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| Posted 1/8/08 9:56 AM |
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Re: We get the Point.....
And I just did the math. It is not even 8% of threads on this page about about puppy mills. 8% out of 100% of threads. Easily enough to be skipped over if you find it too much info that is useless and repetitive.
For that matter, I skip over a lot of threads that don't interest me. Others can feel free to do the same.
If people want to train their dog, should we say "we went over that already last month with poster so and so, do a search"??? No we don't. Most of us eagerly post to share info once again.
But if you are someone who doesn't feel like posting new info to help someone again, you may choose to skip it....as any of you who find it too repetitive may do here re puppy mills. Just accept that it may educate someone, even if that someone is NOT you.
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pinkandblue
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by Goobster
And I just did the math. It is not even 8% of threads on this page about about puppy mills. 8% out of 100% of threads. Easily enough to be skipped over if you find it too much info that is useless.
For that matter, I skip over a lot of threads that don't interest me. Others can feel free to do the same.
This is always going to be a heated topic. Bottom line, don't like it, don't read it !!!
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Re: We get the Point.....
If you don't like it, then don't read it.
But honestly, I do not see how as an animal lover, you can say that these posts or threads are excessive or innappropriate.
No one is saying anyone should feel guilty about their pets. The point of posting about pet stores/puppy mills is so that the next time someone wants a pet, or knows someone thinking about getting a dog, they will know the facts and look for a breeder or rescue dog instead. Why is that wrong?
Obviously the point is not taken because there are still those defending pet stores, and therefore puppy mills.
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by stephanief
Posted by Goobster
Please don't make it sound like every thread is dragged into it. 2 of 25, don't see what is so intolerable about that.
exactly, and Diane, I hate to say this and please don't take this the wrong way but I wonder if part of your gripe is out of guilt? I may be off base but that was my first impression
NOPE my gripe is NOT out of guilt...and no Iw did not take it the wrong way.
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by SweetTooth
If you don't like it, then don't read it.
But honestly, I do not see how as an animal lover, you can say that these posts or threads are excessive or innappropriate.
I never said that they were inappropriate, just excessive.....like I said we got the point
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| Posted 1/8/08 10:19 AM |
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by Diane
I never said that they were inappropriate, just excessive.....like I said we got the point
You personally get the point. But don't assume enough of people on here have just b/c you have.
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pinkandblue
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by stephanief
Posted by Goobster
And I just did the math. It is not even 8% of threads on this page about about puppy mills. 8% out of 100% of threads. Easily enough to be skipped over if you find it too much info that is useless.
For that matter, I skip over a lot of threads that don't interest me. Others can feel free to do the same.
exactly, no one says you have to ready EVERY thread...some people should be more selective, I guess
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by Goobster
You personally get the point. But don't assume enough of people on here have just b/c you have.
I get the point as well. It is really excessive...we know your hearts are in the right places...but come on already
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by SweetTooth
If you don't like it, then don't read it.
But honestly, I do not see how as an animal lover, you can say that these posts or threads are excessive or innappropriate.
No one is saying anyone should feel guilty about their pets. The point of posting about pet stores/puppy mills is so that the next time someone wants a pet, or knows someone thinking about getting a dog, they will know the facts and look for a breeder or rescue dog instead. Why is that wrong?
Obviously the point is not taken because there are still those defending pet stores, and therefore puppy mills.
ITA, and new people look at these boards daily so it is very important the keep those threads relevant and toward the top. Don't click on the thread if you don't want to read it.
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Re: We get the Point.....
i know that a lot of people on this board hate seeing the puppy mill thing brought up----but please remember that MANY posters who come over here the first time....are talking about how they want to get a dog--or are loooking at gettign a puppy from a pet store.....etc....and therefore its important to keep letting people know the truth about pet stores.
if you are a TRUE animal lover.....then it wouldn't seem too much....i don't care if its the same message 100X over---its an important one.
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Re: We get the Point.....
I don't understand why people are upset about multiple posting about puppymills. Why shouldn't subjects that inform people about abuse, neglect, greed, etc be posted everyday regardless of whether it's about puppymills, genocide, child abuse,etc. I think such things should be brought up and discussed everyday as that is the only way to bring about change ...through awareness.
Countless 'lurkers' come to this board on a daily basis and if one walks away and decides not to buy a pet store puppy, that ONE person has saved the lives to SIX other puppies. One person CAN and DOES make a difference and not just on this subject but in how we all live our lives.
Ignorance is bliss and some may wish to remain ignorant on the subject. Each to their own as I am not here to judge and this statement is not directed to anyone in particular or meant to cause any drama.
Those of you that wish to learn more about what actually goes on at a puppy mill, can read about real life experiences ...
Puppymill Rescue
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by justhappy
Posted by Mrs-D-Girl
I am sure that when educating people, your intent is to not turn them away from this board and it seems that is what is happening here.
Whether you girls are seeing it or not, this is true. What you're doing ("educating") is turning away people from this board because your approach is all wrong. Maybe finding a different approach would benefit everyone!
If you have more effective ways of communicating and educating others on this particular subject, I think we would all be very open to listening to you. If you can get one more person educated on the topic then any others have, that would be truly appreciated.
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by shamrock124
If you have more effective ways of communicating and educating others on this particular subject, I think we would all be very open to listening to you. .
she has not provided one, she would just like to tell us that we are going about it wrong but not offer any solutions. go figure
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Re: We get the Point.....
I'm adding my .02 as a lurker and very few but sometime poster...
Would it be possible to email Ron and Co. to see if they could a pin a thread to the top of the board that says something to the effect of: "If you are thinking about getting a dog, please read this first" This post could have all the necessary information regarding puppy mills on it plus other helpful info about breeders and anything else you could think of.
Maybe that could be an option?
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MrsFlatbread
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by Jennie0898
I'm adding my .02 as a lurker and very few but sometime poster...
Would it be possible to email Ron and Co. to see if they could a pin a thread to the top of the board that says something to the effect of: "If you are thinking about getting a dog, please read this first" This post could have all the necessary information regarding puppy mills on it plus other helpful info about breeders and anything else you could think of.
Maybe that could be an option?
Take a Bow my dear!!!! Yet another reason, you rule!!!!!!
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justhappy
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by stephanief
Posted by shamrock124
If you have more effective ways of communicating and educating others on this particular subject, I think we would all be very open to listening to you. .
she has not provided one, she would just like to tell us that we are going about it wrong but not offer any solutions. go figure
Well it is Tuesday and some of us have jobs. Therefore, i do not have the time right now to list suggestions, but i did FM Ron about an hour ago.
So quick to judge aren't you?
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by Jennie0898
I'm adding my .02 as a lurker and very few but sometime poster...
Would it be possible to email Ron and Co. to see if they could a pin a thread to the top of the board that says something to the effect of: "If you are thinking about getting a dog, please read this first" This post could have all the necessary information regarding puppy mills on it plus other helpful info about breeders and anything else you could think of.
Maybe that could be an option?
I actually did that yesterday and requested other people do so also.
I haven't heard anything back yet.
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pinkandblue
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by justhappy
Posted by stephanief
Posted by shamrock124
If you have more effective ways of communicating and educating others on this particular subject, I think we would all be very open to listening to you. .
she has not provided one, she would just like to tell us that we are going about it wrong but not offer any solutions. go figure
Well it is Tuesday and some of us have jobs. Therefore, i do not have the time right now to list suggestions, but i did FM Ron about an hour ago.
So quick to judge aren't you?
oh please....you, my dear, have been saying all of the things we do wrong regarding pm, you HAVE time for that....offer up some suggestions. We'll be here when you find the time 
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by Jennie0898
I'm adding my .02 as a lurker and very few but sometime poster...
Would it be possible to email Ron and Co. to see if they could a pin a thread to the top of the board that says something to the effect of: "If you are thinking about getting a dog, please read this first" This post could have all the necessary information regarding puppy mills on it plus other helpful info about breeders and anything else you could think of.
Maybe that could be an option?
yes, this was suggested a few days ago, I think that is a great idea
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by justhappy
Well it is Tuesday and some of us have jobs. Therefore, i do not have the time right now to list suggestions, but i did FM Ron about an hour ago.
So quick to judge aren't you?
But you have had time to answer numerous times...I asked you the same question about other suggestions - I would love other ways to get the word out - on page 1 of this thread.
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Posted by Jennie0898
I'm adding my .02 as a lurker and very few but sometime poster...
Would it be possible to email Ron and Co. to see if they could a pin a thread to the top of the board that says something to the effect of: "If you are thinking about getting a dog, please read this first" This post could have all the necessary information regarding puppy mills on it plus other helpful info about breeders and anything else you could think of.
Maybe that could be an option?
Take a Bow my dear!!!! Yet another reason, you rule!!!!!!
This has been suggested repeatedly and just the other day by Gerty. No response from LIF as of yet. This thought is not a new one, esp to those who really feel strongly about puppy mills. Until this happens, feel free to skip any new threads or bumped threads pertaining to mills/pet stores.
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Re: We get the Point.....
Posted by SweetTooth
If you don't like it, then don't read it.
But honestly, I do not see how as an animal lover, you can say that these posts or threads are excessive or innappropriate.
No one is saying anyone should feel guilty about their pets. The point of posting about pet stores/puppy mills is so that the next time someone wants a pet, or knows someone thinking about getting a dog, they will know the facts and look for a breeder or rescue dog instead. Why is that wrong?
Obviously the point is not taken because there are still those defending pet stores, and therefore puppy mills.
Diane, as a fellow teacher, I am very surprised that you would ever think that there is such a thing as too much education, esp when it comes to something as horrible as puppy mills.
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