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ave1024
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Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
This question peeves me and my school just sent out the survey as well.
Yes I have no problem with having my kid tested by the nurse, and IMO if you want to opt out of testing completely you should also be switched to remote learning. What's the big deal if the nurse takes a booger? My five year old will probably see the nurse more times for banging his head in the playground then going in for a booger. Some people are just way too wound up over this IMO.
If you insist on being there during the test or if there are other extenuating circumstances like disabilities or dislikes then you can still go get tested on your own time and submit the results. You have that option too, at least in my district. Nobody is forcing anybody and nobody is being held hostage. While I can respect some people may have special needs kids, most don't. You can elect virtual learning and testing is for the greater good. Every professional says this. How do you really know that an asymptomatic student doesn't bring home COVID to grandma? You won't know if your kid doesn't get tested.
Since it's only 20% that need to test I'll make sure my kid mans up to make sure your kid can go to school. If they need to test my kid because another kid with documented special needs can go to school, fine. But if you aren't on a program then you should be in the testing pool if you want to attend in person. The student body only has to test 20% of the staff every so often. My kid would probably be tested once every month or two if you do the math. It's not like they are pulling boogers every other day.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
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We homeschool but if my kids were in school, I wouldn’t sign them up for testing. Schools are not hot spots whatsoever so I don’t see why it’s so important to subject kids to continuous random tests. The whole thing about u either volunteer or we’ll shut down schools seem so wrong to me. Why call it “volunteering” then? I’d say go with ur gut feeling, if it’s telling u don’t go for it, then don’t do it. If other people want their kids to do it, then let them and hopefully ur little one(s) won’t need to do it. But that’s just my opinion.
So parents that are willing to allow their kids to get tested to keep schools open should shoulder the burden for those not willing to do their fair share. Seems unfair to me.
No. Those parents that are willing to allow their kids get tested, are just like u said...willing. If parents don’t feel right to subject their kids to random testings, they shouldn’t have to. What’s not fair is that the government keeps holding schools over parents’ heads if they don’t agree with something they’re requiring. Enough is enough. First it was remote learning, then it was hybrid, then wearing masks only while walking around and not while sitting down in their classrooms, then it was wearing masks literally all day (except when they’re eating), now it’s “volunteering” to get continuously testing. What’s next? Getting the covid vaccine or they can’t go to school?? Denying school to kids for not wanting to test is actually unfair when schools are not hot spots. Plus there are already guidelines to follow if someone tests positive.
I agree. It’s disgusting what the government is doing to these kids and parents who have to work. And oddly, they keep getting away with it. It’s always schools and restaurants because the government can’t control anything else.
Exactly what you said, When is enough is enough and we stop letting them hold schools over our heads. Education is important and it was already severely in trouble in the US before the pandemic, how much more damage do they want to do to this system. I guess in the end it will be ok because the most detriment will happen to the communities they don’t really give a sh!t about anyway. The principal and unfairness of this forced testing is my major issue and there is no real science or logic to back it up. Just fear based, knee jerk reactions to things. Per usual.
Eta: as much as I hate that they are forcing parents to do this, if it was between school and no school, my son would have to get tested. But I strongly agree that this shouldn’t be happening. Sorry!
Yes to all of this. I don't care so much about a simple test but it's the idea behind the government holding us hostage that gets me. It's a helpless feeling when you have absolutely no recourse. What will be next? That's what's disturbing.
The schools are not where it's spreading. They have proven and stated that time and time and time again. Yet, they come up with this nonsense and we all have to comply, "voluntarily " of course, under threat of them shutting down schools for no reason at all. No care at all
about how damaging that is to kids.
Churches are protected under the Constitution and hence why they won the lawsuit against Cuomo.
Schools and restaurants, like you said, are not. So yes, easy targets for government overreach.
Totally agree!
And it kills me he moves the goalposts as he goes. Most of these children who are testing positive are not sick. And their families are not testing positive so it doesn’t make sense.
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Sash
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by ave1024
This question peeves me and my school just sent out the survey as well.
Yes I have no problem with having my kid tested by the nurse, and IMO if you want to opt out of testing completely you should also be switched to remote learning. What's the big deal if the nurse takes a booger? My five year old will probably see the nurse more times for banging his head in the playground then going in for a booger. Some people are just way too wound up over this IMO.
If you insist on being there during the test or if there are other extenuating circumstances like disabilities or dislikes then you can still go get tested on your own time and submit the results. You have that option too, at least in my district. Nobody is forcing anybody and nobody is being held hostage. While I can respect some people may have special needs kids, most don't. You can elect virtual learning and testing is for the greater good. Every professional says this. How do you really know that an asymptomatic student doesn't bring home COVID to grandma? You won't know if your kid doesn't get tested.
Since it's only 20% that need to test I'll make sure my kid mans up to make sure your kid can go to school. If they need to test my kid because another kid with documented special needs can go to school, fine. But if you aren't on a program then you should be in the testing pool if you want to attend in person. The student body only has to test 20% of the staff every so often. My kid would probably be tested once every month or two if you do the math. It's not like they are pulling boogers every other day.
Omg stfu, your mentality and the government are the problem with society.
If you don’t want your kid(s) to get tested do it on your own and if you can’t do it because of work or insurance (aka $$$$) or both go fuk yourself and go to remote learning. And if you have a job you physically have to go to then let’s fuk you just a little bit harder and quarantine, “your kids, Your fukn problem” . What are these rules and precedence really establishing here?
And I’m saying this Loud for the people in the back who aren’t fukn getting it!! Schools and small businesses arent the problem, morons!!
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by Sash
Posted by ave1024
This question peeves me and my school just sent out the survey as well.
Yes I have no problem with having my kid tested by the nurse, and IMO if you want to opt out of testing completely you should also be switched to remote learning. What's the big deal if the nurse takes a booger? My five year old will probably see the nurse more times for banging his head in the playground then going in for a booger. Some people are just way too wound up over this IMO.
If you insist on being there during the test or if there are other extenuating circumstances like disabilities or dislikes then you can still go get tested on your own time and submit the results. You have that option too, at least in my district. Nobody is forcing anybody and nobody is being held hostage. While I can respect some people may have special needs kids, most don't. You can elect virtual learning and testing is for the greater good. Every professional says this. How do you really know that an asymptomatic student doesn't bring home COVID to grandma? You won't know if your kid doesn't get tested.
Since it's only 20% that need to test I'll make sure my kid mans up to make sure your kid can go to school. If they need to test my kid because another kid with documented special needs can go to school, fine. But if you aren't on a program then you should be in the testing pool if you want to attend in person. The student body only has to test 20% of the staff every so often. My kid would probably be tested once every month or two if you do the math. It's not like they are pulling boogers every other day.
Omg stfu, your mentality and the government are the problem with society.
If you don’t want your kid(s) to get tested do it on your own and if you can’t do it because of work or insurance (aka $$$$) or both go fuk yourself and go to remote learning. And if you have a job you physically have to go to then let’s fuk you just a little bit harder and quarantine, “your kids, Your fukn problem” . What are these rules and precedence really establishing here?
And I’m saying this Loud for the people in the back who aren’t fukn getting it!! Schools and small businesses arent the problem, morons!!
So is your thought that if parents refuse testing the governor will backdown and change the rules and come up with a different plan for staying open? I don’t really think schools are the problem either, but I would be ok with testing because I think that’s the only way to keep school open right now. It doesn’t seem like fighting the power at this moment will be very successful for our children.
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Mags1227
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
As of last chancellor letter, NYC students don't have an option at all. If you are blended, all students will be randomly tested. if you do not agree to testing, you cannot attend in person school.
i originally said no to testing as it was never explained which test would be given. now, due to so much time at home, my son has developed deep anxiety and worries over everything. the idea of being tested would make him freak out every day he is in school.
if you need to test 20%, then that's fine. forcing parents to test or their kids can't attend school is not.
he's only in school once a week and now they will take that away as well. IF they ever go back that is.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
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Posted by ave1024
This question peeves me and my school just sent out the survey as well.
Yes I have no problem with having my kid tested by the nurse, and IMO if you want to opt out of testing completely you should also be switched to remote learning. What's the big deal if the nurse takes a booger? My five year old will probably see the nurse more times for banging his head in the playground then going in for a booger. Some people are just way too wound up over this IMO.
If you insist on being there during the test or if there are other extenuating circumstances like disabilities or dislikes then you can still go get tested on your own time and submit the results. You have that option too, at least in my district. Nobody is forcing anybody and nobody is being held hostage. While I can respect some people may have special needs kids, most don't. You can elect virtual learning and testing is for the greater good. Every professional says this. How do you really know that an asymptomatic student doesn't bring home COVID to grandma? You won't know if your kid doesn't get tested.
Since it's only 20% that need to test I'll make sure my kid mans up to make sure your kid can go to school. If they need to test my kid because another kid with documented special needs can go to school, fine. But if you aren't on a program then you should be in the testing pool if you want to attend in person. The student body only has to test 20% of the staff every so often. My kid would probably be tested once every month or two if you do the math. It's not like they are pulling boogers every other day.
Omg stfu, your mentality and the government are the problem with society.
If you don’t want your kid(s) to get tested do it on your own and if you can’t do it because of work or insurance (aka $$$$) or both go fuk yourself and go to remote learning. And if you have a job you physically have to go to then let’s fuk you just a little bit harder and quarantine, “your kids, Your fukn problem” . What are these rules and precedence really establishing here?
And I’m saying this Loud for the people in the back who aren’t fukn getting it!! Schools and small businesses arent the problem, morons!!
Exactly.
We do this and what’s next? What can they use to hold schools hostage in the future?
Considering all we now know, schools should be protected at all costs. It’s disgusting and so twisted the way everything is going down lately.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
I don’t want to quote all the very long responses but I strongly disagree with those that posted that kids without a disability should be mandated to random testing in school to be afforded the privilege to go to school.
My child did have the rapid test as well as several others I know and it really depends on the person doing the test how bad it is. Some nurses go up very far in the nose and it can be very painful. If your child’s nasal passages are not the norm (deviated septum etc) it can be painful and can do damage.
I don’t think any child should have to go to school every day worried that they may be randomly sent down to the nurse to get two sticks stuck far up their nose. What will this do to an already anxious child?
All that said, this is a very slippery slope, first masks, then invasive testing of our children with no consent needed and out of our presence. What will be next? Where does it end.
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
My district survey asked if I would volunteer my kids. I said no. However, if push comes to shove and it is mandated, I would if the alterative is remote learning.
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Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Yes, we are fine with it. I don't see what the big deal is at all honestly but I guess to each their own.
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Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Nope. One of my children got a covid test because a classmate tested positive. I would never voluntarily put my heathy child thru that again. It was a rapid and they still went pretty high up his nose. The accuracy of these tests are terrible. Covid doesn’t spread in schools. It is ridiculous that this is even a discussion.
Require testing for extracurricular activities that children can’t social distance or wear masks, like sports. But not to sit 6 feet apart with a mask and plexiglass. Leave the kids alone already.
And to say parents who don’t want their kids tested should go remote is ridiculous. I’ve done everything the school has asked, even things I didn’t agree with. But this is where I draw the line. They are not testing my heathy kid with a test that isn’t even accurate.
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Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
what type of test are they requiring ? Saliva or the one that goes up the nose ?
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by itsbabytime
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
Here’s the problem with the above. Education is not a right for children in this country. We like to think it is but it’s not.
Neither is shopping without a mask but people think their rights are being ripped from their hands.
This is a public health crisis it’s about the greater good.
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ave1024
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by Christine2
My district survey asked if I would volunteer my kids. I said no. However, if push comes to shove and it is mandated, I would if the alterative is remote learning.
Testing is already mandated if your school hits a yellow zone. So according to you it's ok to allow other families to "foot the bill" until it's an inconvenience for you?
The above quoted post is the EXACT reason why somebody should be moved to remote learning if they decide to opt out of this testing.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by MrsA1012
what type of test are they requiring ? Saliva or the one that goes up the nose ?
It’s the one up the nose though some are saying they don’t go up very far when done in the school. I would need to know for sure which was being done. If it’s the one all the way up the nose absolutely not. My 5 year old would need to be held down while he screamed bloody murder. I would never want him to associate school, a place he should feel safe, with being harmed. And for those that say the test is no big deal, that’s great for you, but it would be a big deal for my kid and I’m not going to put him through that when he’s heathy. So I do hope enough other people consent.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
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Posted by itsbabytime
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
Here’s the problem with the above. Education is not a right for children in this country. We like to think it is but it’s not.
Neither is shopping without a mask but people think their rights are being ripped from their hands.
This is a public health crisis it’s about the greater good.
Education should absolutely be a right and the fact that it's not, says a lot about this so called first world country.
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ave1024
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by alli3131
Posted by itsbabytime
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
Here’s the problem with the above. Education is not a right for children in this country. We like to think it is but it’s not.
Neither is shopping without a mask but people think their rights are being ripped from their hands.
This is a public health crisis it’s about the greater good.
Education should absolutely be a right and the fact that it's not, says a lot about this so called first world country.
Nothing is a right when you are in the middle of a pandemic. There are health laws for a reason.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by ave1024
Posted by NervousNell
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Posted by itsbabytime
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
Here’s the problem with the above. Education is not a right for children in this country. We like to think it is but it’s not.
Neither is shopping without a mask but people think their rights are being ripped from their hands.
This is a public health crisis it’s about the greater good.
Education should absolutely be a right and the fact that it's not, says a lot about this so called first world country.
Nothing is a right when you are in the middle of a pandemic. There are health laws for a reason.
This!!! But everyone thinks their rights are being stripped away. In reality there are few constitutional rights and even those are not absolute.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by ave1024
Posted by NervousNell
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Posted by itsbabytime
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
Here’s the problem with the above. Education is not a right for children in this country. We like to think it is but it’s not.
Neither is shopping without a mask but people think their rights are being ripped from their hands.
This is a public health crisis it’s about the greater good.
Education should absolutely be a right and the fact that it's not, says a lot about this so called first world country.
Nothing is a right when you are in the middle of a pandemic. There are health laws for a reason.
Yes, I believe it was James Madison who added the caveat when he wrote the Constitution.."but all this is out the window should there be a virus." 
So if you believe there are no rights during a pandemic does that mean they can start hauling people out of their homes for not quarantining or wearing a mask or whatever and throw them in jail with no trial? Because by saying there are literally no rights during a quarantine you better be ok with that as well.
And that is pretty scary IMO
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
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Posted by itsbabytime
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
Here’s the problem with the above. Education is not a right for children in this country. We like to think it is but it’s not.
Neither is shopping without a mask but people think their rights are being ripped from their hands.
This is a public health crisis it’s about the greater good.
And yet if I keep my child out of school the authorities are called.
People need to please stop with the “nothing Is a right during a pandemic”. MANY rights continue to be protected. Rights that some might even call luxuries “during a pandemic”.
I had no complaints in March when schools closed. But now this whole threatening to close schools if my 8 hour a day masked child isn’t subjected to regular testing is taking on a much darker feel. It’s not about safety.
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Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Every child should have the right to access education. They are not taking away the right to an education, they are taking away the access if you do not follow the rules that government, who provide the funding for that education, puts out. Anti Vaxxers have been fighting that fact for years, not to mention many in the special education world. You have the right to homeschool or put your child in a private school and then will be able to side step these restrictions.
Do I think testing should take place for schools, no I don't because if they are following the guidelines that were sent out months ago, that should be enough, but if it is mandatory, as I said previously I would have them tested for them to stay in school. Also, be prepared because I can almost guarantee that if the vaccine is available to all by the summer, it will be required for all students and staff to start school in September.
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ave1024
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
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Posted by alli3131
Posted by itsbabytime
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
Here’s the problem with the above. Education is not a right for children in this country. We like to think it is but it’s not.
Neither is shopping without a mask but people think their rights are being ripped from their hands.
This is a public health crisis it’s about the greater good.
And yet if I keep my child out of school the authorities are called.
People need to please stop with the “nothing Is a right during a pandemic”. MANY rights continue to be protected. Rights that some might even call luxuries “during a pandemic”.
I am curious, what "right" do you feel is being violated? "Rights" are freedoms that are based around current laws. I think many people use the term "right" very loosely these days.
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itsbabytime
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by alli3131
Posted by itsbabytime
Education is a right for all children in this country. The more conditions we put on that right... we are entering dangerous territory... just saying...
Here’s the problem with the above. Education is not a right for children in this country. We like to think it is but it’s not.
Neither is shopping without a mask but people think their rights are being ripped from their hands.
This is a public health crisis it’s about the greater good.
I don’t really want to start a big debate here but you are not correct. I am an attorney and I can tell you this is not legally accurate.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Posted by KarenK122
Every child should have the right to access education. They are not taking away the right to an education, they are taking away the access if you do not follow the rules that government, who provide the funding for that education, puts out. Anti Vaxxers have been fighting that fact for years, not to mention many in the special education world. You have the right to homeschool or put your child in a private school and then will be able to side step these restrictions.
Do I think testing should take place for schools, no I don't because if they are following the guidelines that were sent out months ago, that should be enough, but if it is mandatory, as I said previously I would have them tested for them to stay in school. Also, be prepared because I can almost guarantee that if the vaccine is available to all by the summer, it will be required for all students and staff to start school in September.
This is only partially correct with regard to this thread. There is case law that allows for mandatory vaccines and the state government still has to meet a threshold to show that the law is targeted to the public health crisis etc. There is no precedent for mandatory rapid covid testing nor has it been proven that doing so would make a difference to the public health. I don’t have time to look up the lingo but you are talking apples abs oranges.
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
Yes, I would allow my children to get tested. I don't really understand what the big deal is. Would those who are opposed to the test object if temperature checks were required and it had to be with an oral thermometer? It is a q-tip up the nose, they aren't injecting your child with a vaccine or anything that could harm them in any way. Do people get upset when they do lice checks after kids have been exposed to lice?
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Re: Will you allow your children to be covid tested?
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Yes, I would allow my children to get tested. I don't really understand what the big deal is. Would those who are opposed to the test object if temperature checks were required and it had to be with an oral thermometer? It is a q-tip up the nose, they aren't injecting your child with a vaccine or anything that could harm them in any way. Do people get upset when they do lice checks after kids have been exposed to lice?
For me, it’s the accuracy of the test. I’ve seen it first hand. A false positive turn life upside down for a family. Plus just because you don’t test positive doesn’t mean you don’t have it. It might be too early for a positive to show up on the rapid. It’s useless.
Checking for lice....pretty accurate. If they see it you have it. Doesn’t “hurt” my kid to get tested. The way my kid screamed during their rapid test I would never do it again.
Temperature checks....if you have a fever (especially on those thermometers that read my temperature as 96 degrees), you are sick and need to go home.
It comes down to accuracy. The rapids they will use are inconsistent and do not show up positive until a couple days after the person has been spreading it.
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