Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
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DirtyBlonde
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Re: Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
Posted by springchick
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If you don't like it don't fly.
I would rather be scanned then blow up in mid air and never see my family again. How else would you like anyone to see if people are hiding bombs in there a$$ or in their underwear.
SCAN AWAY! Amen SISTA
EXACTLY-flying is not a right is a choice if you dont want to fly, drive or take a train or stay at home. I see it the same way if you dont like something about a store you dont go there.
The two are unrelated.
What do you say to someone who must travel for work who doesn't want to comply to a virtual strip search or a pat down? And the solution is NOT tell them to get a new job.
I'm surprised that some many believe that this will actually make flying safer.
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Posted 11/24/10 11:10 AM |
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no one has mentioned yet fear of radiation....no one can convince me that this will be safe.
you can't even take an xray without a lead vest on......now a full body scan?
what if your pregnant?
ridiculous
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Posted 11/24/10 11:13 AM |
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
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Posted by alli3131
My view is really about all the people screaming their civil liberties are beign violated. It is not a violation of search and siezure because flying on a plane is not a right.....Constutional Law 101. The exact reason that you can be searched on the subway or train. Its a privlegde to ride the subway.
Umm, excuse me, but it is a violation of the 4th amendment. I quoted the amendment in a spinoff post yesterday.
Here it is again:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
IMHO, it is unreasonable to be "strip searched" by a computer, or be felt up by a technician. Even the Supreme Court in Terry vs Ohio (the seminal stop & frisk case for the non-lawyers) ruled that there has to be a reasonable suspicion before a person could be subject to a pat down.
ITA!!! I think it is a total invasion of privacy. And the motto if you dont like it, don't fly doesnt work for me.
Fortunately I dont fly that often but I am hoping by the time we go to Disney next year the gov't has been sued up the wazoo and the scanners are no longer. The though of having my 2 and 4 yr. old boys scanned, showing their body parts, by someone I DON"T know from a whole in the wall disgusts me. And I dont trust the gov't to hire professionals or to monitor the scanners properly.
ETA: And when the cancer rates sky rockets in the next 10 yrs. the gov't will hide the fact body scanners at the airports had anything to do with it NO thanks!
Message edited 11/24/2010 11:14:55 AM.
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Posted 11/24/10 11:13 AM |
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IrishLasss334
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Re: Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
Posted by Christine
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I recently flew (in October) and had to do a pat down, it really is not as instrusve as it sounds or how it's made out to sound, it was not a big deal. People hear "pat down" and think they are getting groped, this is not the case, at least for me it wasn't. I went through Islip and Ft Lauderdale airports. The inspectors (women) were very nice and respectful, none of my "private areas" were touched, the inspector used the back of her hand on my back across my bra strap and the back of her hand under the bra, it was really not a big deal. I didn't feel violated or anything like that, I was completely comfortable the entire time.
If anyone on here went to rock concerts in the late 80's or early 90's, it's no different than a pat down you got at Nassau Coliseum or MSG.
It' not like the pat down you get when you are arrested, the instrusive "put my hand up in your junk" pat down. LOL, Not that I've been arrested but DH tells me.
This is not what my mother experienced last week. She said they felt her genitals, around her breasts, etc with their palms - not the back of their hands which is part of the new procedures. She was upset, angry (with the policy, not the workers) and humiliated. I felt awful for her. Because she has an artificial hip, it seems she will always be subject to a physical search as they got her both ways. The idea of it is incredibly upsetting to her. She comes up here at least 3 times a year and is now considering the train because she can't stand the thought of going through this again.
I am sorry this happened. What airport did this happen at? Because I had the "back hand" in October before any of this even started.
In Tampa & LaGuardia. It stinks because her hip comes up as something in the scanner so they still searched her, even after she explained the artificial hip and presented some card issued by her doctor that she is to present in these situations. I felt horrible for her - she was practially in tears telling me about it when she got home.
Can she get something from her doctor about the artificial hip? My Grandmother has a pacemaker and can't go through the scanner, she has something from her doctor about it that she carries with her.
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Posted 11/24/10 1:45 PM |
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lucyloo
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Re: Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
I had no problem with it until a friend brought up a good point - radiation. Her DH travels at least 3x a month... then I started to think about bringing DS through it.. now I don't know. Is it really safe?
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Posted 11/24/10 2:29 PM |
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MrsBumbleb
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Re: Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
Posted by speakthetruth
I will never be a, "Well, it makes me safe, so anything to ensure that, I'm all for!" kind of person. No. I think there is *always* a gov't agenda to things that are greater than what we really know. That being said....
I don't understand why the need for them.
We already take off our shoes.....we go through that metal detector thing...our luggage and carry-ons gets xrayed. We can't bring any liquids on that aren't test, and after that point, we can't bring any food or drink unless it's purchased from the "Safe Zone." We have a "No Fly List."
And the pilots are going to be exempt from it? So, they are safe, I would presume. But if I'm not deemed safe, neither should they. Sorry.
If anything, this was put into place in an effort to further take away civil liberties and get us all used to a certain way of control.
I hate it. I don't feel it will make me any safer.
Many people are going to protest either they day before Thanksgiving or on Thanksgiving, forgot which one, and refuse the scanner and have to be patted down. It will be to hold up lines.
Now, would I refuse to fly due to not cooperating? No, but I think it's ridiculous.
What's next? The same measures before the subway or train rides?
Something bad can happen in there, too. Or while driving through the Lincoln Tunnel. Or the Midtown Tunnel. Or before crossing the bridge.
Where do we draw the line?
ITA 100%!!!!!
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Posted 11/24/10 4:25 PM |
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julesrbf
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Re: Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
Just a note to those who are concerned about radiation ... when you are on a plane you are also being exposed to radiation. The higher up in the atmosphere you go, the less protected from UV rays you are, the more radiation you are subjected to. The amount is negligible for casual fliers. You're being exposed to radiation without going through any scanners. The longer the flight, the higher the plane and the longer you are on it, the more radiation you are being exposed to.
The scanners also give off a negligible amount of radiation, of course, as do many of the products we use in our daily life.
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Posted 11/24/10 10:17 PM |
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WhatNow
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Re: Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
If you ask me, the pat down is way more invasive than the scan. You think about it: some person you don't even see looking at your faceless body parts' outlines OR someone stepping in front of you and touching you, pretty aggressively, in your most private places.... I take the scan!
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Posted 11/24/10 11:21 PM |
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MsSissy
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Re: Airport Full Body Scanners... What do you think?
Posted by DirtyBlonde
Posted by springchick
Posted by CookieMomster
Posted by JoJo2010
If you don't like it don't fly.
I would rather be scanned then blow up in mid air and never see my family again. How else would you like anyone to see if people are hiding bombs in there a$$ or in their underwear.
SCAN AWAY! Amen SISTA
EXACTLY-flying is not a right is a choice if you dont want to fly, drive or take a train or stay at home. I see it the same way if you dont like something about a store you dont go there.
The two are unrelated.
What do you say to someone who must travel for work who doesn't want to comply to a virtual strip search or a pat down? And the solution is NOT tell them to get a new job.
I'm surprised that some many believe that this will actually make flying safer.
And what about families who live clear across the country or in other countries. My daughter & grandsons live in Alaska. So taking a train or driving isn't an option. So I guess we'll never see each other again. This isn't the answer. And I also agree with the radiation concern. I don't believe for a second this isn't harmful. Like someone else mentioned. The responders on 9-11 were told the air was safe to breathe......
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Posted 11/25/10 6:59 AM |
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