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This kid seriously needs to see a psychologist. Yesterday. Her mom too. Together. Sorry.

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They all need family counseling from what it sounds like. The daughter needs it alone but everyone needs to be on the same page about disciplining her.
I understand the situation that you are in but my nephew is not as bad yet. He is 8 weeks older than my 5 year old son. He gets no attention, is constantly throwing things and breaking things and everyone ignores him. I had him over for a party and he destroyed my daughters room. I never saw it so bad. He took all her toys out, her bins and threw them on the floor, the table in her room was pushed over it was horrible!! If he wants a toy from one of my kids, I have 3 an almost 8 year old boy and my daughter is 6, he just grabs it from them. He constantly just screams and yells. He also has a brother whom is extremely special needs with a severe genetic disorder so I feel bad for him. We go there for thanksgiving and every time we leave we swear we will never go there again. We went away on vacation and he brought not one toy or anything to distract him. I know these things are nothing compared to what you are going through but I know what its like to not want to be around someone close to you. My SIL lives 30 min away so we only see them for parties and holidays. They are coming over on Sunday and Im locking up some of the rooms and hiding some big toys. He is also obsessed with Mike Myers. He watches scary movies and my kids don't. We are just different parents then they are.
I don't think there is any getting through to the mom or your brother. Just try and be there for her but also keep you distance if possible.

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This is more than an annoying family issue. This is an extremely serious situation. Your kids are your first priority above everyone else including your brother, his fiance, and his soon to be step demon. I'm sorry, but you lost me at drowning game. I would've told my brother she can't be around my kids anymore after she almost DROWNED your kid. WTF!!! Thank God your husband saw what was going on and jumped in. I fear what would've happened to your child if he hadn't been watching. And I'd be so upset at your brother for not taking this more seriously and trying to throw your kid under the bus to minimize this girl's creepy and inappropriate behavior. Doesn't sound like your kid is the one playing the drowning game, so your brother and his wife need to get a grip on that kid before she kills someone. She sounds like the plot of a horror movie. Honestly if I was in your brother's shoes there's no way I can marry someone who is so passive about their kid's psychotic behavior. I'd be afraid to sleep at night. This kid needs some hardcore therapy, but your brother and her mom are denying her that help by chalking her issues up to "uniqueness" and "creativity". I'm sorry what's creative about this girl? The method which she uses to kill the neighborhood pets? That'd be the last time she's around my kid. And wtf with the stripping a toddler naked?!? She's 9! She's old enough to know how wrong that is. The toddler is helpless in that situation and YOU'RE his only defense against this creep. Sorry, but I'd be too creeped out to think what inappropriate fuked up abusive things she might be doing to the toddler when no one was looking and the toddler can't communicate it to you. This girl is clearly unstable and sounds like she's capable of anything including sexual abuse. I would not be comfortable having her in my home or around my kids and your brother is just going to have to understand and accept that. Kids aren't mature enough to handle horror movies and stories like slenderman. That's how you get situations like those girls who lured their friend into the woods and stabbed her 50,000 times to summon slenderman. It's inappropriate. It's not meant for children no matter how mature their parent thinks they are. They let her watch that stuff then can't handle her creepiness. I'm surprised she even has the one friend. They're seriously going to act offended when they're clearly downplaying this girl's psychotic issues?? If they do nothing there's a good chance she'll grow up to be a serial killer, and that's on them. Or she might just kill them both in their sleep or set the house on fire one night. Good luck to your brother. I'd want no part of it.

I'm curious what do her mom and your brother say when she strips the toddler? Do they punish her?? Have they not taught her boundaries and to keep her hands off others' bodies??

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Posted by FirstMate

Honestly, I have never thought about any of that. So with the stripping thing, my toddler went through this lovely phase where he used to strip on his own all the time. He would be in a playroom at a party and the next thing we would know is all the kids would come screaming because my son decided he needed to be naked. Or I would find him butt naked playing in the backyard. Do not ask me where that came from; he just loved being naked. Luckily, that phase has now passed. But, while he was in that phase, several kids found it funny and encouraged him to do it. She was one of them. But now that he is over the phase, she has to really encourage it or she may even help him. I'm not sure. I never thought of it as a sexual thing though because of his history. When she did it most recently, her mother did reprimand her and told her she was inappropriate. She was clearly very annoyed at her daughter.

Reading all of this has made me realize we are too lax. Ugh, I just hate being in this situation. I know my brother would never ever let anything happen to my kids but he's not always paying attention and she is incredibly sneaky. This whole thing is just ridiculous. Thanks for your input, everyone.

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How did she even find out about slender man? Who taught her that stuff? Why do they let her watch that kind of inappropriate stuff? It honestly sounds like they don't pay much attention to her and let her do whatever she wants... eating 2 packages of rolls when no one was looking?? That's a whole lot of not looking. How is that even humanly possible for an adult let alone a child? In the time it took her to eat all that bread nobody noticed what she was doing and stopped her? Why was she in the pool alone with your son long enough to try to drown him? Bloody Mary rituals? Showing your kids horror videos? Stripping toddlers? Who's watching this girl?? Where are the adults? If everybody's on alert of her creepy behavior why is she having so much unsupervised time around your kids? She's traumatizing them.

If *everyone* is saying these things about her to her parents how can *everyone* be wrong??

I feel for you and I'm sorry you're going through this. Your kids have to come first so they don't end up on the news. I hope your brother and his fiance start taking this seriously and get this child help before it's too late. She's obviously craving attention and discipline that she isn't receiving.

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I don't want anything misconstrued like nobody is supervising. That is 100% not the case. I have a playroom in my house right off of my kitchen that is completely child proof so adults are not always physically in there babysitting. My toddlers are 3 and 4 so not baby, babies. (And yes...the one way my lttlle guy is gifted is that he could strip himself at any early age-can't count to 10 to save his life but he can whip off a button up shirt like Magic Mike!) We check in on them but not necessarily sitting in there. Same with my den. My kitchen opens up to my den and we can see them, but we aren't necessarily in the room. As far as the pool, there were plenty of adults standing around and in the pool. We just didn't initially realize what they were doing; it looked like they were just playing. Like I said, this kid is very sneaky. She can be doing something right in front of you and you not realize it.

I just found out my brother's job has him scheduled for weekends for the foreseeable future so we won't be seeing much of them. It's a Christmas Miracle!

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And as for the horror movie stuff...when she was little she discovered Goosebumps. She loved it. Then from there it progressed to liking creepy things (like a kids version...nothing crazy) on You Tube. My brother is a horror movie buff so they let her see some of the very benign stuff. How she learned about Bloody Mary, Slenderman and all of that type of stuff...IDK.

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I have a friend who’s daughter sounds similar to this child. The parents are totally in denial about her behavior. They truly think it’s just because she is gifted and special. The dad is an off the charts genius and he is as strange as they come. So I assume that’s where she gets it. The grandmother is also mentally ill. What do you know about the father? Was he strange also? This kid actually picked my infant up out of her crib and slammed her onto the ground when she was 5. She could have killed her. She did this right after pinning my other daughter on the ground with one foot and kicking her with the other. I had two babysitters refuse to have her in the house because they were afraid of her behavior. I would not have her over either after the incident above. She has killed frogs in her backyard and cut them open to see their insides and the mom chalks it up to her being curious about science. She too is very manipulative. I have to say she’s gotten a little better since she’s gotten older but it could also be that I don’t see her as much anymore. I believe she hasn’t the potential to be a true sociopath when she grows up. Ironically people who don’t know the girl as well are critical of me because they think that it’s mean to speak about a child like this but frankly after a child comes close to killing your baby I think you can say whatever you want.

As for advices e I would just make sure you watch your children like a hawk when you are around her. Maybe even hire a mother’s helper to be around the younger ones so you don’t have to constantly keep an eye on them. You can’t change her l, or your brother and his fiancés view of her.

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