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heidla
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by dm24angel
I dont think anyones OPINIONS means they are passing judgement. I personally DO not want to see a womans breast, brestfeeding or not. If I were breastfeeding my child, I would make sure I never left the house without something, simple as that. I see a breast as a sexual thing, no-one has to agree with me, its only my opinion. I thought we could give opinions.
I think some of us are saying we dont like it and those that do breastfeed in public are the defensive ones that feel they have to defend themselves....WHY?? No-ones saying your wrong, just that us or me personally dont like to see it. But why would anyone care what the heck I thought? No-one on here is going to take my opinion into consideration before breastfeeding.. Just like I wouldnt take someone pro doing it in public opinion into consideration
So lets remember to see if what we are reading is an opinion or an attack. Theres too much defensiveness around here...We all love each other...lets be nice 
Yes, we should all be allowed to express our opinions. I don't think that any of the posts crossed that line. A debate/discussion requires both parties to express and defend their position. I think if done respectfully it can educte each party about and why they believe what they do. I certainly think that this thread was one of the better examples of an intelligent debate.
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by heidla
I certainly think that this thread was one of the better examples of an intelligent debate.
i completely agree 
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| Posted 6/6/05 10:54 PM |
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by MrsERod
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OK, I'm going to agree to disagree with you. I don't have a baby but I'm around a lot of babies and there is just NO WAY to plan your life around a nursing baby.
I just don't think a lot of people are understanding that it's just not as simple to do as it is to say. 
I'm a mother of 2...breastfed both my babies..and I do not feel it is appropriate to bf blatantly in public...there are very discreet ways to nurse your child WITHOUT having to expose your entire breast!! I bf my Sofia once so discreetly, my friend thought I was just sitting there holding her. Sometimes, IT IS that simple!
Why are people arguing about the same things?? I never said women should expose their breasts - I'm saying women should be able to b/f in public without people around her feeling uncomfortable. I've never seen a woman "whip out her breast" for all to see so that she could feed her baby.
Those against b/f in public seem to be saying a little more than "just do it discreetly" - they seem to be saying don't do it at all if I - or anyone else - can see you.
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:15 PM |
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june262004
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
You said that your niece wouldn't allow anyone to be covered up.
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:18 PM |
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by june262004
You said that your niece wouldn't allow anyone to be covered up.
Huh?
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:23 PM |
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neenie
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
and you seemed to be supporting it with This...
Posted by Colleen9304
Maybe women who "whip out their breast" (which I've rarely seen - most women are very discreet) don't see why them feeding their child is so inappropriate when our society sees nothing wrong with half naked women prancing around our TV's or magazine covers or movies.
Half naked women seem to be accepted only when they are exploiting themselves - but not when they are FEEDING THEIR CHILD.
Seems assinine to me.
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:25 PM |
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june262004
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by Colleen9304
Posted by june262004
You said that your niece wouldn't allow anyone to be covered up.
Huh?
Sorry im over tired..... You said something about you sisters daughters not allowing anyone to cover their faces.
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:28 PM |
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by neeniebean86
and you seemed to be supporting it with This...
Posted by Colleen9304
Maybe women who "whip out their breast" (which I've rarely seen - most women are very discreet) don't see why them feeding their child is so inappropriate when our society sees nothing wrong with half naked women prancing around our TV's or magazine covers or movies.
Half naked women seem to be accepted only when they are exploiting themselves - but not when they are FEEDING THEIR CHILD.
Seems assinine to me.
Supporting WHAT? B/f'ing in public? Yes.
This all sounds rather conspiratorial - what am I "supporting"?  Am I being unclear?
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:29 PM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
I never even noticed anyone BFing in my life until I worked at Sears Portrait Studio, then i had breastfeeding mommies all the time. At first it really makde me uncomfortable because I was just so unfamilair with it, but then I got used it. What i did not get used to is women whipping it out...yes whipping it out..I;ve seen women pull a DD boob out of a tank top to BF. Sorry. That's outside the realm of decency. I'm not a mom, but I think even if I do BF, i will not do it in public. I don't feel comfortable with that. A breast is functional in feeding a baby, but it is also sexual. That's not really my problem with BFing public. It's not like, ooh they're showing these sexual parts...it's just, it's sort of an intimate act, and right or wrong, I don't think we're used to it in our society for the most part. For me I still think it's not the kind of thing I want to see at the dinner table, but that's just MHO. MOST of the mommies at ears covered up w/ blankets or otherwise, and would duck into a corner somewhere to do it,, not out in the open. I think that's best for everyone. Maybe we should be more accepting of it as a society, but it's still taboo.
As far as the view is concerned, I don't really know what they were "protesting" but if they wanted national attention for their cause, they def got it.
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:29 PM |
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Shes talking about This...
Posted by Colleen9304
It's super easy - but if the baby is like one of my nieces, it is easier said than done. She doesn't want anything covering her when she is nursing - and if you try to cover her head, she becomes fussy or curious about the covering and won't eat.
I think if a woman has to nurse in public, do it - I have no problem... I don't care if she covers herself or not.
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:32 PM |
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by neeniebean86
Shes talking about This...
Posted by Colleen9304
It's super easy - but if the baby is like one of my nieces, it is easier said than done. She doesn't want anything covering her when she is nursing - and if you try to cover her head, she becomes fussy or curious about the covering and won't eat.
I think if a woman has to nurse in public, do it - I have no problem... I don't care if she covers herself or not.
What about it??
Again, I never said women should expose their breasts - but that they should be able to b/f in public without people aorund them feeling uncomfortable.
What? Do women actually whip out their breasts in a suggestive manner - is that where the discomfort comes from? Or do they rip open their shirts and fling their hair around while they're doing it?  Come on.
Because, again, I honeslty don't see anything wrong with b/f'ing in public. It just seems ultra conservative - and almost hypocritical - for people in society to find fault in women who do. "Do what's best for baby, just make sure I don't see it."
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:38 PM |
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june262004
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
I never said I found "fault" in woman who do it. I think they are amazing. Im not comfortable to do it. I wouldn't do it. I think they are great and maybe better then me for being able to over come "the society" and do it in public with out a car in the world..
BUT you said you don't car if they cover or not but then you said woman should not exspose their Breasts thats why I was confused. Whatever no biggie.
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:42 PM |
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by Colleen9304
What about it??
Again, I never said women should expose their breasts - but that they should be able to b/f in public without people aorund them feeling uncomfortable.
What? Do women actually whip out their breasts in a suggestive manner - is that where the discomfort comes from? Or do they rip open their shirts and fling their hair around while they're doing it? Come on.
Because, again, I honeslty don't see anything wrong with b/f'ing in public. It just seems ultra conservative - and almost hypocritical - for people in society to find fault in women who do. "Do what's best for baby, just make sure I don't see it."
Im just saying what she was referring to. Like i said in my post Earlier... i dont think Anyone here is saying NOT to BF in public, But that they dont want to see it. and YES, that is a Logical request. There are laws against Nudity- so clearly its not just 'opinion' that breasts should not be bare in public. And no one is saying "let a baby starve"... Theyre saying that there ARE ways to keep it private. i dont care if i can 'tell' that someone is bf'ing... but i dont want to see a boob. and No, its not because its sexual, its b/c its inappropriate, especially at the dinner table. I think youre getting extreme by saying that society is hypocritical and finds fault in women BFing- again, you're not really hearing what we're saying--- it has nothing to do with the Act in itself, it has to do with not wanting to see private parts
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:45 PM |
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~Colleen~
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by june262004
BUT you said you don't car if they cover or not but then you said woman should not exspose their Breasts thats why I was confused. Whatever no biggie.
I don't think they should - nor do I think they "get off" on exposing themselves - but if they wind up doing it in the process of feeding their child, so be it. Why the heck should I care?
Just like people can change the channel or not buy the magazine, I can look away.
Being a mother isn't easy - and this I can tell only from second hand experience - so why make it more difficult over a total non-issue?
It's not like these women are doing anything illegal or offensive.
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:48 PM |
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june262004
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by Colleen9304
Posted by june262004
BUT you said you don't car if they cover or not but then you said woman should not exspose their Breasts thats why I was confused. Whatever no biggie.
I don't think they should - nor do I think they "get off" on exposing themselves - but if they wind up doing it in the process of feeding their child, so be it. Why the heck should I care?
Just like people can change the channel or not buy the magazine, I can look away.
Being a mother isn't easy - and this I can tell only from second hand experience - so why make it more difficult over a total non-issue?
It's not like these women are doing anything illegal or offensive.
No. 1 Who said they were getting off
No.2 Some people do find it offensive. Have you not realized that on this thread?
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:50 PM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
I thinkour society should be a little friendlier to BFing moms (not that anyone ha sdescribed any hostility) but I don't think it belongs at the dinner table. Making out with my Fh is perfectly natural and ehalthy for both of us, non illegal, safe and not hurting anyone, but no one wants to watch us do it while they're eating at a restaraunt, so we save it for later 
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| Posted 6/6/05 11:51 PM |
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Ya know i have read this thread, although completely confused at some peoples reasonings and i just do not think using the "its a natural part of life" is a valid answert...THere are a LOT of things that are considered a natural part of life and done in PRIVATE. I think a soman who is breast feeding and NOT discreet is inappropriate and wrong.
AGAIN if you drove your baby somewhere and you have to feed your child....GO BACK to your car and do it there...if there is no other option for you (ie. covering up, bathroom, private area). It is as simple as that.
I SHOULD NOT have to watch a woman (as it was so eloquently said) "whip it out" or have their breast exposed because of BF, while i am eating, shopping, or doing anything in public. And using the "it a natural part of life" explanation is invalid imo.There are plenty of acts that are a "natural part of life" that we do not do in public.
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Kierasmom
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
I nursed for 7 months and the only time I did it in public was in the mothers room of Babies R Us in which I was covered with a blanket. But that was my choice. I was not comfortable nursing in public.
I haven't read this whole thread but I just wanted to provide some comments as a nursing mother
You can't just pump. I'm sorry but the answer is not that simple. Some women don't like to pump. Some women don't want the baby on the bottle. It's not an easy thing to do. Some women have huge problems pumping and can't get the same amount of milk out as they can when they nurse. Some babies don't take the bottle. If you offer a bottle too early to a baby it can cause nipple confusion. Some SAHM's only breastfeed and never introduce a bottle. So pumping isn't always an option.
The problem is that in America we view breasts as sex objects. After you have nursed a baby you realize that is not what they were intended for. Before I nursed I always said I don't understand why people do it in public. Now I understand. You can't always plan around a baby's feeding schedule. A 3 month old baby will typically nurse every 3 hours. And each nursing session can easily take an hour. How can you go out in that short time span? If you nurse a baby at 1, they are not done until about 2. Then you have to clean yourself up (because it can get messy), pack up the baby, get the baby in the car and get where you're going. By now it's at least 3. Hey guess what, the baby needs to eat again within the hour. So you can't work your schedule around the baby eating. That's not how it goes with breastfeeding. If we didn't view breasts as sex objects it wouldn't be a big deal for people to nurse in public. In other countries all they do is nurse. In poor countries people can't afford formula and pumps. People don't care in other countries because they realize it's a totally natural part of life.
Some babies don't like the blanket over them and I'm sorry but I don't think a woman should have to go sit on the toilet in the rest room to nurse. Forget about how unsanitary that is, it's also uncomfortable.
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by marymoon
I thinkour society should be a little friendlier to BFing moms (not that anyone ha sdescribed any hostility) but I don't think it belongs at the dinner table. Making out with my Fh is perfectly natural and ehalthy for both of us, non illegal, safe and not hurting anyone, but no one wants to watch us do it while they're eating at a restaraunt, so we save it for later
Because making out is a sexual thing, nursing a baby is not.
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
I will admit to being a bit uncomfortable in the presense of a bf'ing mother but I consider that MY issue. I would not presume that the mother should leave the room to accomodate me or my feelings. I have the choice to look the other way, ignore the situation or move/leave myself.
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| Posted 6/7/05 9:27 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by Kierasmom
Posted by marymoon
I thinkour society should be a little friendlier to BFing moms (not that anyone ha sdescribed any hostility) but I don't think it belongs at the dinner table. Making out with my Fh is perfectly natural and ehalthy for both of us, non illegal, safe and not hurting anyone, but no one wants to watch us do it while they're eating at a restaraunt, so we save it for later
Because making out is a sexual thing, nursing a baby is not.
I was being silly. But the point is, it's not somethng people want to watch at the dinner table.
I personally would just look elsewhere. I wouldn't ever tell a mom not to do it. I'd just deal w/ my own discomfort.
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by marymoon
Posted by Kierasmom
Posted by marymoon
I thinkour society should be a little friendlier to BFing moms (not that anyone ha sdescribed any hostility) but I don't think it belongs at the dinner table. Making out with my Fh is perfectly natural and ehalthy for both of us, non illegal, safe and not hurting anyone, but no one wants to watch us do it while they're eating at a restaraunt, so we save it for later
Because making out is a sexual thing, nursing a baby is not.
I was being silly. But the point is, it's not somethng people want to watch at the dinner table.
I personally would just look elsewhere. I wouldn't ever tell a mom not to do it. I'd just deal w/ my own discomfort.
yeah, i mean a park is one thing
but a restaurant?
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JenniferEver
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
I think everyone has a right to FEEL uncomfrotable with something, but not necessarily a right to say something about it. Unless it was causing some kind of problem somehow (what problem I don't know) I'd never even make it an issue. Just think it's sweet to see a mom and baby and look the other way
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by marymoon
I think everyone has a right to FEEL uncomfrotable with something, but not necessarily a right to say something about it. Unless it was causing some kind of problem somehow (what problem I don't know) I'd never even make it an issue. Just think it's sweet to see a mom and baby and look the other way
yeah i'd probably be uncomfortable but wouldn't say anything
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Re: Breast feading in public. The view protest.
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
Posted by marymoon
Posted by Kierasmom
Posted by marymoon
I thinkour society should be a little friendlier to BFing moms (not that anyone ha sdescribed any hostility) but I don't think it belongs at the dinner table. Making out with my Fh is perfectly natural and ehalthy for both of us, non illegal, safe and not hurting anyone, but no one wants to watch us do it while they're eating at a restaraunt, so we save it for later
Because making out is a sexual thing, nursing a baby is not.
I was being silly. But the point is, it's not somethng people want to watch at the dinner table.
I personally would just look elsewhere. I wouldn't ever tell a mom not to do it. I'd just deal w/ my own discomfort.
yeah, i mean a park is one thing
but a restaurant?
That's why I don't think it's about sexual parts. it's just not something you want to see at a restaraunt. Like every other place a park, a store, etc etc...fine I guess...but I think it's weird for a restaraunt. If I'm BFing and my kids can't have a bottle, I'll stick to restaraunts that I know have sititng areas in/near the bathroom or I'll stay home. That's JMO. I can't say anythingto a BFing mom at a restaraunt (just like I can;t say antyhing to the guy picking his teeth with a work) but yeah it does gross me out while I'm eating.
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