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MichLiz213
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
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CT announces full in person school in the fall
I don't think anyone is blaming teachers. Just like any other job on the planet, there are good teachers and there are bad teachers. Some went above and beyond and others just did the bare minimum if that. The school fiasco needs to be blamed on the administrators not the teachers. They are the ones who made the plans or lack there of. September should be different as there has been plenty of time to learn from the mistakes and plenty of time to give professional development to teachers that need it to get more familiar with online teaching. As far as teachers not going back to work, that is their prerogative but then they should be out on disability or a leave. No job just lets you stay home because you don't want to return, medical or not.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
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I don't think anyone is blaming teachers. Just like any other job on the planet, there are good teachers and there are bad teachers. Some went above and beyond and others just did the bare minimum if that. The school fiasco needs to be blamed on the administrators not the teachers. They are the ones who made the plans or lack there of. September should be different as there has been plenty of time to learn from the mistakes and plenty of time to give professional development to teachers that need it to get more familiar with online teaching. As far as teachers not going back to work, that is their prerogative but then they should be out on disability or a leave. No job just lets you stay home because you don't want to return, medical or not.
I wish I could love this  
Why can't anyone ever say one negative thing about a teacher, ever? We aren't Gods, lol.
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Christine2
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning? Your district? Administrators? Were you having daily/weekly meetings? Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
We need to seriously reconsider education in this country. I think it needs to be privatized. Get rid of unions, ineffective teachers. Unions are a relic of the past. We need charter schools. If teachers' salaries were dependent on student's results I think you'd see a lot more effective teaching and accountability. I think more of them would have gone out of their way.
Case in point, in my children's report cards, the teachers did not even comment on the third reassessment. They BOTH had a standard "coronavirus comment." My God, they couldn't be bothered to at least make an individual comment on my child's remote work?? Does no one else see a problem here?
I blame teachers, but the unions and administrators moreso. In no other industry would you be paid full salary for doing a sixth of the work you normally do.
If the state goes remote, they all better step up their game and earn their inflated salaries.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning? Your district? Administrators? Were you having daily/weekly meetings? Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
We need to seriously reconsider education in this country. I think it needs to be privatized. Get rid of unions, ineffective teachers. Unions are a relic of the past. We need charter schools. If teachers' salaries were dependent on student's results I think you'd see a lot more effective teaching and accountability. I think more of them would have gone out of their way.
Case in point, in my children's report cards, the teachers did not even comment on the third reassessment. They BOTH had a standard "coronavirus comment." My God, they couldn't be bothered to at least make an individual comment on my child's remote work?? Does no one else see a problem here?
I blame teachers, but the unions and administrators moreso. In no other industry would you be paid full salary for doing a sixth of the work you normally do.
If the state goes remote, they all better step up their game and earn their inflated salaries.
Charter schools do nothing but suck much needed funds out of financially strapped districts (my opinion.) We have one here. Everyone thinks they are so great. They only benefit the small amount of kids who are selected to go there while the rest F kids in district continue to suffer...
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PitterPatter11
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CT announces full in person school in the fall
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning?
They said nothing about online learning except to not use programs not approved by the school due to Ed2D law as you would be opening yourself up to liability.
Your district? Administrators?
These were one in the same. When we were going to be closed for two weeks, we were only allowed to give review. After that point, it was to be 2-2.5 hours of course work per week. Initially everything was suppose to be asynchronous because home life varies so much for our students so we couldn’t make them attend live instruction. By May, we were required to offer at min one live session a week.
Were you having daily/weekly meetings?
We met with our professional learning team 2 times per week for 1-2 hours. We had department and faculty meetings biweekly.
Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
Yes, I already started prepping for next year as though we are going back to school. It is hard to plan right now because we have no idea what next year will look like.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
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What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
You want to know what I’m doing RIGHT NOW? I’m mourning the loss of my beloved school which just announced that it will close its doors after 97 years due to lower enrollment coupled with the coronavirus, which claimed many people’s health and jobs in the poor and underserved neighborhood where I work. They simply couldn’t afford to pay Catholic school tuition any more.
But you want to know what I was doing every day before today since “summer break” started? Working. Reading and taking notes on all new novels written by POC to diversify my curriculum. Coordinating all new short stories featuring different voices to add to our department’s existing units and organizing them by themes, cultural heritage, and by grade level. Revamping ALL of my units thematically. Following many different English teacher blogs and websites in order to more effectively make the switch to digital learning.
So, in short, your “understanding” understands absolutely nothing.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
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So now that both CT and NJ have announced guidelines for schools, to people still think it's perfectly acceptable for Cuomo to still say he doesn't know? It is incredibly disturbing how little our children's education is being considered. The NY state board of regents has expressed grave concern that we are getting down to the wire here, and Cuomo has still given them zero guidance on how to reopen safely. Its disgusting actually.
This! Specially from a state that has the “best” schools. Cuomo is really dropping the ball on this one!
The districts already have these same guidelines from the State. This is nothing new. The only thing they do not know is how many students to a class, but that is really going to be determine by how large the classrooms are and about busing. Busing is going to be the biggest obstacle. NJ gave nothing new that districts have already been working with in NY.
All districts have been asked to start committees on how to get back to school. They need 3 scenarios, 1 - back to normal (not happening), 2 -back to school using guidelines (most likely a hybrid option) and 3 - full distance learning.
The Board of Regents is meeting on July 13th and that is hopefully when more concrete guidelines will be set in place. After that date, districts need to send their plans to the State to be approved.
You’re correct about Nj! His briefing didn’t provide any breaking news about schools.
The guidelines that Murphy discussed isn’t anything new. This has been said for several weeks already and is still leaving all the pressure and decision making up to the districts. It will be impossible for many schools to go back full time. There is going to have to be some sort of hybrid model. Which will suck for urban communities. Just another way to keep minorities down and further apart from getting ahead.
I’m disgusted by this whole thing.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
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Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
You want to know what I’m doing RIGHT NOW? I’m mourning the loss of my beloved school which just announced that it will close its doors after 97 years due to lower enrollment coupled with the coronavirus, which claimed many people’s health and jobs in the poor and underserved neighborhood where I work. They simply couldn’t afford to pay Catholic school tuition any more.
But you want to know what I was doing every day before today since “summer break” started? Working. Reading and taking notes on all new novels written by POC to diversify my curriculum. Coordinating all new short stories featuring different voices to add to our department’s existing units and organizing them by themes, cultural heritage, and by grade level. Revamping ALL of my units thematically. Following many different English teacher blogs and websites in order to more effectively make the switch to digital learning.
So, in short, your “understanding” understands absolutely nothing.
Ugh that's terrible.  And I love you. And thank you for this answer. I was, once again, flabbergasted by the generalizations.
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My2Girlz11
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CT announces full in person school in the fall
Reading some of these replies is very insulting. But I do get some of the responses. I know my ICT and I worked our butts off. Live taught and stayed on Meets to help kids out. We also pre recorded lessons for those that couldn’t make it. I know that didn’t happen everywhere but a lot of teachers did work as hard or harder than we did in our class. I worked from 730-9 almost everyday. Checking work, creating online assignments and messaging parents.
As for opening in fall. All the teachers I know want to go back. However, they are scared for their health and the ones they love. We heard about many schools in the DOE hiding cases. I believe there were over 60. teachers/staff deaths.
It is very premature for any governor in the North East to be saying what we are doing in the fall. Look at how well over confidence did in the west and south of the United States. They are peaking in the summer. We need to listen to the medical and scientific experts. They are saying there will be a bad surge in cases in the upcoming months. We all need to wear masks and contact tracing and testing need to be better. If that doesn’t happen we will be closed come Nov. especially if we go back to school full time and people continue acting like fools in New York. You want to go back to school and everything go back to normal? Do your part wear a mask and avoid large gatherings.
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klingklang77
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by nel
Posted by Eireann
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
You want to know what I’m doing RIGHT NOW? I’m mourning the loss of my beloved school which just announced that it will close its doors after 97 years due to lower enrollment coupled with the coronavirus, which claimed many people’s health and jobs in the poor and underserved neighborhood where I work. They simply couldn’t afford to pay Catholic school tuition any more.
But you want to know what I was doing every day before today since “summer break” started? Working. Reading and taking notes on all new novels written by POC to diversify my curriculum. Coordinating all new short stories featuring different voices to add to our department’s existing units and organizing them by themes, cultural heritage, and by grade level. Revamping ALL of my units thematically. Following many different English teacher blogs and websites in order to more effectively make the switch to digital learning.
So, in short, your “understanding” understands absolutely nothing.
Ugh that's terrible. And I love you. And thank you for this answer. I was, once again, flabbergasted by the generalizations.
The generalizations are disgusting.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
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MrsDrMatt
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
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Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Wow generalize much? Baeed upon this statement: you fail as a fellow human.
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Diane
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by nel
Posted by Eireann
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
You want to know what I’m doing RIGHT NOW? I’m mourning the loss of my beloved school which just announced that it will close its doors after 97 years due to lower enrollment coupled with the coronavirus, which claimed many people’s health and jobs in the poor and underserved neighborhood where I work. They simply couldn’t afford to pay Catholic school tuition any more.
But you want to know what I was doing every day before today since “summer break” started? Working. Reading and taking notes on all new novels written by POC to diversify my curriculum. Coordinating all new short stories featuring different voices to add to our department’s existing units and organizing them by themes, cultural heritage, and by grade level. Revamping ALL of my units thematically. Following many different English teacher blogs and websites in order to more effectively make the switch to digital learning.
So, in short, your “understanding” understands absolutely nothing.
Ugh that's terrible. And I love you. And thank you for this answer. I was, once again, flabbergasted by the generalizations.
Totally agree, what an insult to us teachers You have no idea what we went through. My district was one of the first to start remote learning ASAP. Not only did I prepare and grade lessons, but we had to keep in contact with parents of kids who were not doing well, or did not even log in, because we had to prove if a child failed, we made contact. The saddest part was not being able to say goodbye to my 8th graders who are moving to the high school. I also had to help my one son who has Autism with his home teaching, and now dealing with behaviors now that there is no structure. My other son did not need my help, but it has taken a toll on him mentally. He lost a lot in his 8th grade year. So you know what. I am taking some time for myself this summer because I think I deserve it as a teacher and mother.
Our school has a task force working on ways to prepare if we have to go back to remote learning, or other options. It is difficult because they are waiting to see what Cuomo decides
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning? Your district? Administrators? Were you having daily/weekly meetings? Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
We need to seriously reconsider education in this country. I think it needs to be privatized. Get rid of unions, ineffective teachers. Unions are a relic of the past. We need charter schools. If teachers' salaries were dependent on student's results I think you'd see a lot more effective teaching and accountability. I think more of them would have gone out of their way.
Case in point, in my children's report cards, the teachers did not even comment on the third reassessment. They BOTH had a standard "coronavirus comment." My God, they couldn't be bothered to at least make an individual comment on my child's remote work?? Does no one else see a problem here?
I blame teachers, but the unions and administrators moreso. In no other industry would you be paid full salary for doing a sixth of the work you normally do.
If the state goes remote, they all better step up their game and earn their inflated salaries.
I worked 12+ hour days teaching online high school science classes. I was available to my students at all times and answered their technical and curriculum based issues immediately. Told my own children to “go away” several times a day because I had to work. Started their online classes after I was “done” with mine. My house was severely neglected on top of my own family. The weekend was the only time I had to catch up on my home and personal needs.
I lost two family members whom I couldn’t properly grieve or take bereavement because of online classes I taught.
I was stressed beyond relief, had so many side effects from the stress...so right now I am enjoying my first week off and trying not to think about having to do it all again next year. But if it is the same next year I will go above and beyond for my students.
It was a year of feeling like my family came last because of everything I had to do for my job.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning? Your district? Administrators? Were you having daily/weekly meetings? Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
We need to seriously reconsider education in this country. I think it needs to be privatized. Get rid of unions, ineffective teachers. Unions are a relic of the past. We need charter schools. If teachers' salaries were dependent on student's results I think you'd see a lot more effective teaching and accountability. I think more of them would have gone out of their way.
Case in point, in my children's report cards, the teachers did not even comment on the third reassessment. They BOTH had a standard "coronavirus comment." My God, they couldn't be bothered to at least make an individual comment on my child's remote work?? Does no one else see a problem here?
I blame teachers, but the unions and administrators moreso. In no other industry would you be paid full salary for doing a sixth of the work you normally do.
If the state goes remote, they all better step up their game and earn their inflated salaries.
Disgusting comment.
It’s Saturday. For one- I’m allowed a day off. If you must know I registered for a summer class to better service the population I teach. I also responded to parents emails today.
I worked my butt off the last 3.5 months. I made sure to make connect with every student Monday-Friday. I contacted parents and provided addition resources. All my parents have my cell number. I fielded a call from a student on a Friday evening at 9 pm because both her uncle and grandmother died of Coronavirus. Do you know what it’s like trying to comfort a 10 year who is sobbing on the other end of the phone? My heart was broken into a million pieces that night. All I wanted to do was hold and comfort her.
We weren’t asked, we were forced to change the way we provide instruction on a drop of a dime. I had exactly 3 days to prepare to teach using a platform I’ve never used, to students without technology.
Your anger is misplaced. You should be angry with our state government for allowing our schools to be behind the technology curve. For caring move about getting re-elected instead of putting money where it’s needed most- schools.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by KarenK122
I don't think anyone is blaming teachers.
There is a poster who has done that, repeatedly, with blanket statements on multiple threads.
I don't doubt her experience. Literally no one is claiming that every teacher or district got it right. Heck, I'm not thrilled with my own district and I'm joining a meeting Monday night to voice my own concerns. And I agree with everything else you said that I deleted to emphasize this sentence.
But really, if she hadn't denigrated so many people on this board, if she had just come on here and stated her concerns and maybe asked for support I bet anyone in education would have at minimum empathized and maybe even offered to help in some ways. But she didn't do that so now people are understandably insulted and the backlash is hers to deal with.
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Posted by Christine2
Things in NY are so much better. I think he has to open the schools (full opening) for several reasons:
(1) the economic burden on families who have working parents - staggered/hybrid approach leaves many young kids without childcare. Where do they go? Daycares? how is that any better?
(2) the number of infections in NY is the lowest in the country. How can you justify other states (CT) opening fully and not us?
(3) But possibly #1: OUR CHILDREN NEED AN EDUCATION!
To the poster who says "screw the teachers..." YES!!!! Screw the teachers, the administrators and the unions who absolutely FAILED the children and parents of their communities. If you had put even an iota of effort into remote learning maybe the thought of it being extended wouldn't be as unacceptable and repugnant as it is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves! You did a BAD JOB! Unions were telling the teachers to NOT do pre-recorded sessions, live learning, etc. Why the hell not?
Time to suck it up buttercups and work like the rest of us "essential workers" had to during the crisis. Try to redeem yourselves.
Be mad at the system, fine. The government has failed all of us in the 99%. But don't blame teachers. The tone you are using is absolutely disgusting and uncalled for. You sound like a miserable human being. I agree that teachers should have still written personal things in the report card. Obviously they were ordered by higher ups to do what they did. That comes from the top down, they are just doing their jobs. DD's teacher wrote her beautiful, nice messages every single day about her work - called her on the phone to check up on her (even now in the summer!!). She was a wonderful teacher. So yeah, I'm unhappy with certain aspects of how this went and how the school handled things. But this is an unprecedented experience and everyone is in flux. Obviously you are a bitter, disgruntled, essential worker but you really need to wash away your despicable attitude. There is no excuse for this.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning? Your district? Administrators? Were you having daily/weekly meetings? Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
We need to seriously reconsider education in this country. I think it needs to be privatized. Get rid of unions, ineffective teachers. Unions are a relic of the past. We need charter schools. If teachers' salaries were dependent on student's results I think you'd see a lot more effective teaching and accountability. I think more of them would have gone out of their way.
Case in point, in my children's report cards, the teachers did not even comment on the third reassessment. They BOTH had a standard "coronavirus comment." My God, they couldn't be bothered to at least make an individual comment on my child's remote work?? Does no one else see a problem here?
I blame teachers, but the unions and administrators moreso. In no other industry would you be paid full salary for doing a sixth of the work you normally do.
If the state goes remote, they all better step up their game and earn their inflated salaries.
My understanding is that you are a disgusting hateful human. You want to know what I’m doing right now and what I did this weekend? First I’ll tell you that I worked until Friday checking in on my students, having a final google meet because we all miss each other. This weekend I spent some time with my four year old who has been home virtually ignored most days because I was taking care of other people’s kids virtually. I was letting him socially distance in my backyard so he could see his paternal grandparents for the first time since February. Then we then took a trip out East yesterday for ice cream and made rainbow pancakes with sprinkles for dinner because it’s the goddamn weekend and I am entitled to a day off.
And you know what I’m doing today on my first day of summer vacation? Sitting on a virtual meeting with administration and teachers to try and figure out what next September looks like in my school - for free on my own time so we can get your kids to school while I try and figure out where my own kid is going. So yeah that’s what I’m doing. And i already have virtual Pd’s lined up to figure out more online things that will make my students experiences better if we need to do this in September. How about you give me your number and I’ll text you every goddamn day this summer and let you know what I’m doing to better myself and maybe you can tell me what you’re doing so you’re not a hateful piece of s**t. It’s as if you think teachers started this pandemic to stay home. Or maybe you expect your kids teacher to come to your house and parent them and cook them dinner also. So I’ll wait for your number and I can let you know what I’m doing tomorrow too.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning? Your district? Administrators? Were you having daily/weekly meetings? Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
We need to seriously reconsider education in this country. I think it needs to be privatized. Get rid of unions, ineffective teachers. Unions are a relic of the past. We need charter schools. If teachers' salaries were dependent on student's results I think you'd see a lot more effective teaching and accountability. I think more of them would have gone out of their way.
Case in point, in my children's report cards, the teachers did not even comment on the third reassessment. They BOTH had a standard "coronavirus comment." My God, they couldn't be bothered to at least make an individual comment on my child's remote work?? Does no one else see a problem here?
I blame teachers, but the unions and administrators moreso. In no other industry would you be paid full salary for doing a sixth of the work you normally do.
If the state goes remote, they all better step up their game and earn their inflated salaries.
This obnoxious, disgusting, nasty, misinformed comment deserves nothing more than this response...............................you are an epic cuunt.
To all the teachers, thanks for hanging in there these last few months and doing the very best that you could throughout this insane time that NOBODY was prepared for. Remote learning isn't ideal but my kids teachers made the best of it and did as good of a job as they could given the circumstances.
Comments like the one above are just disgraceful, some people are nothing more than self absorbed, ignorant a$$holes.
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning? Your district? Administrators? Were you having daily/weekly meetings? Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
We need to seriously reconsider education in this country. I think it needs to be privatized. Get rid of unions, ineffective teachers. Unions are a relic of the past. We need charter schools. If teachers' salaries were dependent on student's results I think you'd see a lot more effective teaching and accountability. I think more of them would have gone out of their way.
Case in point, in my children's report cards, the teachers did not even comment on the third reassessment. They BOTH had a standard "coronavirus comment." My God, they couldn't be bothered to at least make an individual comment on my child's remote work?? Does no one else see a problem here?
I blame teachers, but the unions and administrators moreso. In no other industry would you be paid full salary for doing a sixth of the work you normally do.
If the state goes remote, they all better step up their game and earn their inflated salaries.
This obnoxious, disgusting, nasty, misinformed comment deserves nothing more than this response...............................you are an epic cuunt.
To all the teachers, thanks for hanging in there these last few months and doing the very best that you could throughout this insane time that NOBODY was prepared for. Remote learning isn't ideal but my kids teachers made the best of it and did as good of a job as they could given the circumstances.
Comments like the one above are just disgraceful, some people are nothing more than self absorbed, ignorant a$$holes.
I think we all need to understand that there were some teachers that did NOTHING. I have three kids and comparing them, 2 were amazing and 1 literally did nothing. Posted a website for each topic and expected an 8 year old to read it and teach themselves. Was never available. Did no google meets. NOTHING.
I can imagine if that was your only child and that was your only experience with remote learning you would in fact blame the teacher. I even blame that teacher, because I know they were allowed to do other things, she just chose to do nothing.
However, since I had the other two teachers (and speaking to other parents) I know that majority of teachers went above and beyond and in fact worked harder than if they were in the classroom.
Just like everything going on in the world, you can not say ALL teachers failed when only a handful did.
But, I do agree it’s time to get back into the classroom and work like the rest of us. We are going back to work, I feel teachers should be no different.
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| Posted 6/29/20 8:59 AM |
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kmr6107
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by BaysideForever
Posted by Christine2
Things in NY are so much better. I think he has to open the schools (full opening) for several reasons:
(1) the economic burden on families who have working parents - staggered/hybrid approach leaves many young kids without childcare. Where do they go? Daycares? how is that any better?
(2) the number of infections in NY is the lowest in the country. How can you justify other states (CT) opening fully and not us?
(3) But possibly #1: OUR CHILDREN NEED AN EDUCATION!
To the poster who says "screw the teachers..." YES!!!! Screw the teachers, the administrators and the unions who absolutely FAILED the children and parents of their communities. If you had put even an iota of effort into remote learning maybe the thought of it being extended wouldn't be as unacceptable and repugnant as it is. You should all be ashamed of yourselves! You did a BAD JOB! Unions were telling the teachers to NOT do pre-recorded sessions, live learning, etc. Why the hell not?
Time to suck it up buttercups and work like the rest of us "essential workers" had to during the crisis. Try to redeem yourselves.
Be mad at the system, fine. The government has failed all of us in the 99%. But don't blame teachers. The tone you are using is absolutely disgusting and uncalled for. You sound like a miserable human being. I agree that teachers should have still written personal things in the report card. Obviously they were ordered by higher ups to do what they did. That comes from the top down, they are just doing their jobs. DD's teacher wrote her beautiful, nice messages every single day about her work - called her on the phone to check up on her (even now in the summer!!). She was a wonderful teacher. So yeah, I'm unhappy with certain aspects of how this went and how the school handled things. But this is an unprecedented experience and everyone is in flux. Obviously you are a bitter, disgruntled, essential worker but you really need to wash away your despicable attitude. There is no excuse for this.
That is not true about higher ups ordering teachers what to write on the report cards. I know for a fact that my district worked hard on how to grade students this last trimester and it was supposed to be more narrative based and each student was supposed to get individual feedback on their report card. My DS's teacher did a copy and paste narrative and for me that was the icing on top of the cake. Not once did we get a phone call from my teacher to check up on my DS. Half the time I had to ask for feeback from her on his work. We got a few pre-recorded lessons (which had commentary on how hard this was for her to do, keep your comments to yourself) and two live instructions which was a complete joke. The first 9 weeks was a sh*t show were we had to have a class text to help each other out bc the teacher did not know how to do anything. I also know how much PD the district gave for learning new ways to teach the kids remotely which she did not take. My son's teacher was not there for the kids when they needed her the most. It was a special year for my son it was the last year he was at this school and missed out on a lot there and she didn't even once try to do anything special for them. Our kids got lawn signs for moving up and every other teacher in his grade personally delivered to their students not my son's teacher. I totally get how some teachers did great and worked their butts off but there were also plenty that did absolutely nothing and those parents of those students who had those crappy teacher have every right to be upset.
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| Posted 6/29/20 9:05 AM |
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Naturalmama
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CT announces full in person school in the fall
In response to the comment about individual comments on report cards, at my school we did. But it was very difficult. We hadn't seen these kids in three months. Yes, I saw them four days a week on zoom, but that is VERY different than being able to assess them in a classroom.
I am in the process of making individual memory books for my students and mailing them to their houses over the summer. I am terrified at the prospect of having to be begin the year remotely. The only reason this even worked a little, is because we had six months with our classes before the pandemic hit. I cry nightly and obsess over covid numbers, praying they stay low enough to reopen in September.
My school is requiring weekly PD's this summer, and we also are meeting with our principal on zoom every Tuesday morning. This is not going to be a typical summer break, a lot is going into the next academic year.
I have been very vocal on here with saying that there certainly are teachers out there who failed their students and did nothing this whole time. But they are not the majority...and even if they were, spewing such hatred for an entire profession is a little over the top. No profession is immune to the bad. They all have them. But I believe the good always outweighs the bad.
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| Posted 6/29/20 9:05 AM |
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by Christine2
What are teachers doing RIGHT NOW? Are they even planning on how to better themselves if they work remotely in the fall? My understanding is that they are on summer break and doing nothing to prepare.
Teachers: what did your unions say during remote learning? Your district? Administrators? Were you having daily/weekly meetings? Are you doing anything to prep for next year?
We need to seriously reconsider education in this country. I think it needs to be privatized. Get rid of unions, ineffective teachers. Unions are a relic of the past. We need charter schools. If teachers' salaries were dependent on student's results I think you'd see a lot more effective teaching and accountability. I think more of them would have gone out of their way.
Case in point, in my children's report cards, the teachers did not even comment on the third reassessment. They BOTH had a standard "coronavirus comment." My God, they couldn't be bothered to at least make an individual comment on my child's remote work?? Does no one else see a problem here?
I blame teachers, but the unions and administrators moreso. In no other industry would you be paid full salary for doing a sixth of the work you normally do.
If the state goes remote, they all better step up their game and earn their inflated salaries.
I’m curious to know what you do on Your vacation from work.
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| Posted 6/29/20 9:06 AM |
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kmr6107
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Re: CT announces full in person school in the fall
Posted by Naturalmama
In response to the comment about individual comments on report cards, at my school we did. But it was very difficult. We hadn't seen these kids in three months. Yes, I saw them four days a week on zoom, but that is VERY different than being able to assess them in a classroom.
I am in the process of making individual memory books for my students and mailing them to their houses over the summer. I am terrified at the prospect of having to be begin the year remotely. The only reason this even worked a little, is because we had six months with our classes before the pandemic hit. I cry nightly and obsess over covid numbers, praying they stay low enough to reopen in September.
My school is requiring weekly PD's this summer, and we also are meeting with our principal on zoom every Tuesday morning. This is not going to be a typical summer break, a lot is going into the next academic year.
I have been very vocal on here with saying that there certainly are teachers out there who failed their students and did nothing this whole time. But they are not the majority...and even if they were, spewing such hatred for an entire profession is a little over the top. No profession is immune to the bad. They all have them. But I believe the good always outweighs the bad.
I understand it is hard to assess the students like you would in a normal classroom setting but just copying and pasting things that don't even actually apply to my child doesn't help me give him the help he actually might need. Saying how he was so enthusiastic on google meets and how he reached out to her when he needed help. Things that never actually happened. Also half the narrative was about how she was sad that this is how the year ended for her. You can tell by the work he did and what he got wrong that he might need some help in that area. A little effort to show that she actually paid attention to my child's work since more than half of it never had any feedback on it and I had to ask for that feedback. When he did get something wrong he was just told the right answer and not even an explanation of how to get the correct answer. Our teacher definitely checked out March 18. This was also remote learning not homeschooling. It was still the responsibility of the teacher to teach their students not just assign them work and leave it up to the parents to teach it. We don't know how to teach we were not trained and we learned all this a long time ago in a totally different way.
I am not grouping all the teachers into one group of they are all bad because I have seen the opposite too. My neighbors child who is in the same school same grade as my son had an amazing teacher and commend her for everything she did. I am actually very jealous. What is expected of these teachers should be the same and yes that comes from admin. But for every good teacher story I hear just as many or more bad teacher stories.
I commend any teacher that gave their all during this crazy time. I also am disgusted by the teachers that didn't give a sh*t about their students too.
You seem to be an awesome teacher and I hope your student's parents are grateful for you. Seeing them 4 days a week on zoom is amazing.
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| Posted 6/29/20 9:41 AM |
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