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jessnbrian
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by MrsDamonSalv7319
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I am scared of everything, so just add this to the list :)
My husband works in a hospital so that does not help me. He showers the second he walks in the door and his clothes all go right in the wash.
I really think we need to set up certain 'centers' in every state that are 100% ready to deal with this and the infected people can go there for treatment. There is just no way I can fathom every single hospital being ready for this.
This!! There needs to be places set up ready for Ebola patients that actually know what they're doing and how to stop it from spreading. It should not be left to individual hospitals to deal with.
I'm not so worried about a national outbreak/zombie apocalypse...but let's say that hospital in Dallas gets a few more cases...and then someone in Chicago or NY pops up with Ebola and infects some people...etc...it will scare people...it's bad for the economy...it's bad for travel, it's going to tap out the government's resources to deal with things like this pretty quickly...and since they aren't banning travel from West Africa, there is nothing that will stop pockets from popping up randomly all over the world.
Also, I'm a little curious about why we haven't heard anything about Duncan's family. Is their incubation period over? If they are all healthy, then it's a good sign that it's not very easy to catch early on, only after the person gets very sick.
I, too, am not worried - I've certainly made that abundantly clear. However, I like the idea of creating a centralized location in each major city/regional area specifically set up to care for these patients. I agree, regular hospitals and healthcare workers are NOT trained well enough for this type of care, and as someone said quoting a nurse, (and being in care myself) the patient is #1.... even if it breaks protocols. I think that designating a specific hospital and training that staff EFFICIENTLY would be the ideal.
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by jessnbrian
Posted by MrsDamonSalv7319
Posted by DMT
I am scared of everything, so just add this to the list :)
My husband works in a hospital so that does not help me. He showers the second he walks in the door and his clothes all go right in the wash.
I really think we need to set up certain 'centers' in every state that are 100% ready to deal with this and the infected people can go there for treatment. There is just no way I can fathom every single hospital being ready for this.
This!! There needs to be places set up ready for Ebola patients that actually know what they're doing and how to stop it from spreading. It should not be left to individual hospitals to deal with.
I'm not so worried about a national outbreak/zombie apocalypse...but let's say that hospital in Dallas gets a few more cases...and then someone in Chicago or NY pops up with Ebola and infects some people...etc...it will scare people...it's bad for the economy...it's bad for travel, it's going to tap out the government's resources to deal with things like this pretty quickly...and since they aren't banning travel from West Africa, there is nothing that will stop pockets from popping up randomly all over the world.
Also, I'm a little curious about why we haven't heard anything about Duncan's family. Is their incubation period over? If they are all healthy, then it's a good sign that it's not very easy to catch early on, only after the person gets very sick.
I, too, am not worried - I've certainly made that abundantly clear. However, I like the idea of creating a centralized location in each major city/regional area specifically set up to care for these patients. I agree, regular hospitals and healthcare workers are NOT trained well enough for this type of care, and as someone said quoting a nurse, (and being in care myself) the patient is #1.... even if it breaks protocols. I think that designating a specific hospital and training that staff EFFICIENTLY would be the ideal.
Right. Why not set up these centers and train people on the proper protocol now, before it gets worse. If it ends up being for naught, so be it, but at least we will be prepared. Instead of everyone scrambling like a-holes to set things up after the fact.
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| Posted 10/15/14 11:07 AM |
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Jugglemom
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Re: Ebola and the news
They just reported that the second healthcare worker infected in Dallas was on a flight on Monday. I find it frustrating that people who have had contact with an Ebola patient are being allowed to fly when they are still in the potential incubation period. Granted, I know that you are not contagious until symptoms appear but realistically symptoms could appear during a flight. I just see the potential circle of contagion broadening and very little is being done in the way of containment.
Also, contrary to what others here believe I think the media and the cdc is downplaying the transmissibility of the disease.
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bella
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Ebola and the news
Second muse has it now and she took a flight from OH to Fort Worth a day before she was diagnosed. 132 people on that frontier airlines flight and they are being tracked down--- it's human nature to be scared at this point, if your not scared great but it's getting more serious by the day
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alli3131
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Ebola and the news
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
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| Posted 10/15/14 11:50 AM |
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ohbaby08
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You've already established the fact that you are not worried (and that's great), but don't mock people who might be.
I'm not too concerned as of yet, but I fully understand and sympathize with the people that are. We all deal with things differently.
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| Posted 10/15/14 11:54 AM |
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Jugglemom
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
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alli3131
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
No people actually have said they are in a panic. The OP has stated she is afraid to commute to work.
NYC does not have one case. Its def not time to panic and I am sorry not one since person I have some across in my personal or work like is even giving Elboa more than a passing thought.
The only panic I have seen is on here.
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
The only panic I have seen is on here.
And so your reaction to people who are scared is to mock them?
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Jugglemom
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
No people actually have said they are in a panic. The OP has stated she is afraid to commute to work.
NYC does not have one case. Its def not time to panic and I am sorry not one since person I have some across in my personal or work like is even giving Elboa more than a passing thought.
The only panic I have seen is on here.
That is fine in YOUR life. Perhaps your life is more insular than mine. My DH travels almost weekly for work. In fact he flew, ironically, to ohio today. I will be traveling next week for work and again a few weeks. Thus, the fact that there are no NYC cases is irrelevant for me. For many of us our worlds extend past the boundaries of Long Island. So, yes, I am concerned that people who have had known contact with Ebola patients are getting on flights.
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Ebola and the news
Im worried. Im worried they dont fully understand or know the transmission of this disease. I am worried that two healthcare workers who treated a patient with Ebola were also treating other patients. Im worried that they were allowed to fly during their incubation period. I worry that the NBC news crew (one of which was a DR) violated their isolation agreement and had to have it court ordered. Im worried that trained professionals (who even if they had poor education on the disease, they have had more than the general public has) who KNEW they were dealing with Ebola were able to contract it and then went about their lives. Im worried that this whole thing started here bc someone from an infected country was able to travel here and infect others. Im worried that hospitals arent equipped, if workers in LARGE hospitals are getting it, what about the smaller community hospitals, what about a person who walks into a stat clinic instead.....there are lots of reasons to be worried and I dont think any of them are outlandish.
Im worried that people arent taking it more seriously.
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alli3131
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
The only panic I have seen is on here.
And so your reaction to people who are scared is to mock them?
No a few of us suggested she should talk to someone and we got mocked for that. Which I think was actually a normal suggestion. I would tell a friend in that much fear to speak to someone.
IMO this tread is just adding to peoples panic and shoudl just go to the tread graveyard with the rest of them. The media is creating enough panic we don't need anymore .
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Im worried. Im worried they dont fully understand or know the transmission of this disease. I am worried that two healthcare workers who treated a patient with Ebola were also treating other patients. Im worried that they were allowed to fly during their incubation period. Im worry that the NBC news crew (one of which was a DR) violated their isolation agreement and had to have it court ordered. Im worried that trained professionals (who even have had poor education on the disease, have had more than the general public) who KNEW they were dealing with Ebola contracted it and then went about their lives. Im worried that this whole thing started here bc someone from an infected country was able to travel here and infect others. Im worry that hospitals arent equipped, if workers in LARGE hospitals are getting it, what about the smaller community hospitals, what about a person who walks into a stat clinic instead.....there are lots of reasons to be worried and I dont think any of them are outlandish.
Im worried that people arent taking it more seriously.
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jlm2008
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
The only panic I have seen is on here.
And so your reaction to people who are scared is to mock them?
Always, unfortunately.
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Sparrow
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
No people actually have said they are in a panic. The OP has stated she is afraid to commute to work.
NYC does not have one case. Its def not time to panic and I am sorry not one since person I have some across in my personal or work like is even giving Elboa more than a passing thought.
The only panic I have seen is on here.
I know someone from PA who canceled their anniversary trip to NYC because they were concerned about Ebola. I'm pretty confident that they're not on LIF. Just saying, there are other people out there who are concerned about it.
I am concerned because I work in healthcare. I don't think it's a direct threat to the general public but I also don't think it's overboard to be a bit concerned about it.
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| Posted 10/15/14 12:24 PM |
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ohbaby08
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
No people actually have said they are in a panic. The OP has stated she is afraid to commute to work.
NYC does not have one case. Its def not time to panic and I am sorry not one since person I have some across in my personal or work like is even giving Elboa more than a passing thought.
The only panic I have seen is on here.
I'm pretty sure there are other people in this country worried, not just the people on this message board. The point is, people react to things differently, so be a little bit more understanding and not so quick to make fun.
Maybe these people should see a professional about their anxiety, who knows. But that's not for you, or anyone else on here, to say.
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Chai77
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Re: Ebola and the news
I agree it's rude to mock those of us who are panicking. I am very concerned but not in a total panic. I have bought some staples like Clorox bleach to sanitize. If I cared what some stranger on the internet thought, I might be offended. 
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BargainMama
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by alli3131
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by alli3131
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by alli3131
I think everyone should start building their bunkers and start stocking up on food!!!!
You have made it clear that you are not concerned and I don't think anyone on this thread has indicated that they are in any sort of panic. However, I think it is really impolite to diminish others' opinion and concerns especially when it seems that most people's concerns stem from the incompetence of our agencies during a well documented outbreak of hemorrhagic fever.
The only panic I have seen is on here.
And so your reaction to people who are scared is to mock them?
No a few of us suggested she should talk to someone and we got mocked for that. Which I think was actually a normal suggestion. I would tell a friend in that much fear to speak to someone.
IMO this tread is just adding to peoples panic and shoudl just go to the tread graveyard with the rest of them. The media is creating enough panic we don't need anymore .
It's hard to read tone on the internet, but your posts have come off as extremely condescending. Maybe some therapy for that big chip on your shoulder?  Seriously though, so what if you aren't concerned, others are, no need to trivialize their feelings ;)
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People say they aren't at all concerned...but yet they keep clicking on all the Ebola threads...if you could care less, stop bothering to read the threads and let the people who are concerned or interested discuss concerns w/o feeling like they need to justify them.
With that said,
The 2nd nurse flew the day before showing symptoms. I think they're going to track down the rest of the people on her flight and put them on watch. Quite frankly, I'm more afraid of being at the wrong place at the wrong time with my kids and being forced into quarantine than actually catching Ebola. How many people have already spent hours sitting on planes bc someone threw up. Whether the threat of actually contracting Ebola is real or not, many more people will be inconvenienced because of this. It is going to become a bigger deal than people want to acknowledge based on that alone.
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| Posted 10/15/14 12:59 PM |
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Kitten1929
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Ebola and the news
I think a lot of is about perspective.
Some people panic - irrationally, without really knowing anything, and incites fear and chaos.
Some take it as it comes, try to process the information calmly, like a wait and see approach.
Some people fall in the middle, others to an extreme of either end. The fact of the matter is that this is a disease that the US is not familiar with, and we're sorely lacking in the effective ability to handle these cases. I think most hospitals and doctors are learning from trial by fire, and that just adds fuel to the fire and panic.
I don't fault anyone - nor condescend to them - for their feelings. Everyone is entitled to be worried or not worried or somewhere in between. If anything, communicating these worries and fears can sometimes ease peoples minds.
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Re: Ebola and the news
I'm not overly worried but I do think we need to step up education about Ebola and train our health care workers better in how to better protect themselves. I was watching cnn yesterday and they were discussing the gear/procedures used by the US vs doctors without borders in Africa. Areas of the body in the US are left unprotected by the gear and doctors and nurses are not sprayed with bleach before removing the protective gear. I think those are fairly easy changes that should made,
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Ebola and the news
What I really want to know is how someone who had direct contact with the bodily fluids of a known ebola patient was allowed on a commercial airliner in the first goddamn place before 21 days was up.
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What I really want to know is how someone who had direct contact with the bodily fluids of a known ebola patient was allowed on a commercial airliner in the first goddamn place before 21 days was up.
THIS!
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What I really want to know is how someone who had direct contact with the bodily fluids of a known ebola patient was allowed on a commercial airliner in the first goddamn place before 21 days was up.
B/c they were allowed to "self monitor" and this person probably thought she was fine...basically no one was watching her. Clearly not all people are trustworthy when it comes to "self monitoring."
She was apparently symptom free on the plane at night and woke up the next morning with a fever and was in isolation immediately. Guess we'll find out when people actually become contagious very soon.
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ANewDayHasCome
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by 2BadSoSad
What I really want to know is how someone who had direct contact with the bodily fluids of a known ebola patient was allowed on a commercial airliner in the first goddamn place before 21 days was up.
And showing symptoms no less. That was completely selfish on this nurse. Knowing she had been exposed and had symptoms.
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