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GoldenRod
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by sfp0701
CDC says she had a 99.5 temp before her PM flight and a fever the next morning. IMO that is a FEVER!!! She had a fever. When my son has that temp his eyes glaze over and he feels warm. When I have that, I have the chills. She was getting sick, knew it and wanted to get home, IMO. I understand she may have been scared but, they were told not to fly. She thought she knew better and flew. I am furious. I am would be even more mad if I was on that flight. The poor person who sat next to her. The flight attendant who took her cup and used napkins.
link to article about her temp
http://www.medguidance.com/thread/Normal-Body-Temperature.html
98.6 isn't an absolute. Depending on the individual, time of day, etc, 99.5 is still considered "normal" by medical standards. I'm not saying she was healthy, just that they couldn't label her has having a fever, and isolating her on that info alone.
That's why I test my family's temp when we aren't sick, so we know what our normal temp is. For DW, if she's at 98.6, her temp is actually a little warm, and she might be coming down with something.
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Ebola and the news
I really don't understand how people are not concerned either. I'm not panicked but I am very concerned. It's become very apparent to me in the past two weeks that a. people are not as knowledgeable as they think they are when it comes to Ebola (including the people at the CDC) b. people are assholes, can't follow rules and don't care about putting others at risk for a disease (see Thomas Duncan and now nurse #2) and c. that most hospitals in the US are ill equipped and ill prepared to handle Ebola.
That to me is very concerning..those are recipes for disaster. At this point I feel like West Africa has better protocols for trying to contain the outbreak than the US.
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by sfp0701
CDC says she had a 99.5 temp before her PM flight and a fever the next morning. IMO that is a FEVER!!! She had a fever. When my son has that temp his eyes glaze over and he feels warm. When I have that, I have the chills. She was getting sick, knew it and wanted to get home, IMO. I understand she may have been scared but, they were told not to fly. She thought she knew better and flew. I am furious. I am would be even more mad if I was on that flight. The poor person who sat next to her. The flight attendant who took her cup and used napkins.
link to article about her temp
http://www.medguidance.com/thread/Normal-Body-Temperature.html
98.6 isn't an absolute. Depending on the individual, time of day, etc, 99.5 is still considered "normal" by medical standards. I'm not saying she was healthy, just that they couldn't label her has having a fever, and isolating her on that info alone.
That's why I test my family's temp when we aren't sick, so we know what our normal temp is. For DW, if she's at 98.6, her temp is actually a little warm, and she might be coming down with something.
My temp is almost always 99.3-99.6 that's my normal range. It's only "normal" first thing in the morning
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by sfp0701
CDC says she had a 99.5 temp before her PM flight and a fever the next morning. IMO that is a FEVER!!! She had a fever. When my son has that temp his eyes glaze over and he feels warm. When I have that, I have the chills. She was getting sick, knew it and wanted to get home, IMO. I understand she may have been scared but, they were told not to fly. She thought she knew better and flew. I am furious. I am would be even more mad if I was on that flight. The poor person who sat next to her. The flight attendant who took her cup and used napkins.
link to article about her temp
http://www.medguidance.com/thread/Normal-Body-Temperature.html
98.6 isn't an absolute. Depending on the individual, time of day, etc, 99.5 is still considered "normal" by medical standards. I'm not saying she was healthy, just that they couldn't label her has having a fever, and isolating her on that info alone.
That's why I test my family's temp when we aren't sick, so we know what our normal temp is. For DW, if she's at 98.6, her temp is actually a little warm, and she might be coming down with something.
My temp is almost always 99.3-99.6 that's my normal range. It's only "normal" first thing in the morning
Sure it's possible that's normal for her but I would be more inclined to think she just crossed her fingers it was nothing and got herself home. If it's correct that she was told not to fly in the first place, I have no trust in her. That's the thing that's scary to me. Too many people are inconsiderate or uninformed. She should have followed the instructions not to board a plane to begin with and the situation would be different.
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My2Girlz11
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Re: Ebola and the news
They told her not to go on a plane and she did anyway. I am furious with this woman. When people do such selfish things it really angers me. Even if there is just a slight chance of her giving it to someone else, she should have known better. This is the hospitals fault. They should have called their employees and monitored them better.
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sfp0701
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by sfp0701
CDC says she had a 99.5 temp before her PM flight and a fever the next morning. IMO that is a FEVER!!! She had a fever. When my son has that temp his eyes glaze over and he feels warm. When I have that, I have the chills. She was getting sick, knew it and wanted to get home, IMO. I understand she may have been scared but, they were told not to fly. She thought she knew better and flew. I am furious. I am would be even more mad if I was on that flight. The poor person who sat next to her. The flight attendant who took her cup and used napkins.
link to article about her temp
http://www.medguidance.com/thread/Normal-Body-Temperature.html
98.6 isn't an absolute. Depending on the individual, time of day, etc, 99.5 is still considered "normal" by medical standards. I'm not saying she was healthy, just that they couldn't label her has having a fever, and isolating her on that info alone.
That's why I test my family's temp when we aren't sick, so we know what our normal temp is. For DW, if she's at 98.6, her temp is actually a little warm, and she might be coming down with something.
I am not an idiot. I know that. In fact, if my kid has a 99.5 and it goes away, I send him to school. He might have cold or something.
However... MY SON IS NOT BEING MONITORED FOR EBOLA!!!
She was admitted the next day with a low grade fever. Meaning that 99.5 wasn't normal to her. It wasn't 103 when she was admitted. She got up the next day with a fever very close to the one she had the prior night and went to the hospital. She was told to monitor her temps a few times a day. She got on that plane knowing she was likely getting sick. You can't convince me otherwise.
I am not panicking and buying food and masks. But, I am not stupid and I can see the potential of this. People are downright nasty on this thread. It makes me sick to see how people talk to each other.
She risked almost 150 lives on a plane. She was around family members that went to Kent State. She is a selfish person. And she should be held liable for it.. if she survives. She violated an order NOT to fly. She only cared about herself. Not her family and the strangers on the plane.
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by My2Girlz11
They told her not to go on a plane and she did anyway. I am furious with this woman. When people do such selfish things it really angers me. Even if there is just a slight chance of her giving it to someone else, she should have known better. This is the hospitals fault. They should have called their employees and monitored them better.
I can't blame the hospital. She would have said "I felt fine" and still flown. If they said don't fly she could have said "OK" and still flown. This is after all America, she committed no crime, she was not under house arrest.
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| Posted 10/15/14 4:49 PM |
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by Xelindrya
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I don't really understand how people are NOT concerned about this. Do you trust this ass-clown of a president to protect us from this? I think you'll be changing your tune in a few weeks...
Look.. I can't STAND obamass. I think he's a blithering idiot and worthless. I feel he has caused more pain and misery in this country than the brainwashed country wants to believe. I feel like his terms as president have made our country weaker, less respected and an overall mess
that said..
Its a virus.
Unless you want to blame Obama for not locking down our country ahead of time and Duncan then could never come to the US (which time and time again I said would be impossible, never mind hindsight is impossible to at on).
The government (BOTH SIDES) had very little to do with bringing a deadly virus to the US other than transporting two sick individuals back to America who are now CURED and because they are cured they were able to HELP the first nurse by offering a blood transfusion, not otherwise possible if we'd left them in Africa.
I disagree with mocking those who are sincerely panicked and mostly keep my mouth shut other than to offer reassurances or information to counter. But as an Obama-hater I think his opponents can do better than blaming Ebola fear on him.
I am not concerned .. not because I think the government has ANYTHING to do with it one way or another, but because its the MEDIA who's feeding the panic. The family he was visiting here hasn't been admitted. Nurses broke protocol because they didn't know the protocol and more importantly they are extraordinarily brave individuals who are generally used to handling bodily fluids without thought.
I am not handling or exposed to the bodily fluids of anyone showing signs of Ebola. These two nurses were not only around him but HANDLING him in very close proximity. That is not likely to happen to anyone else in the general public.
Hospitals are understaffed because medical fraud is rampant. Medical Mal is ridiculously expensive. Because medical field is reeling from ACA because the costs to be a doctor well out weights the salary. Nurses are hard to come by trained for trauma for the same reasons.
I am not concerned because there's nothing to be concerned about yet.
Food for thought... none of the nurses handling the other two cured Americans have been diagnosed... and I think its because they knew they were coming and were properly prepared. These two nurses were thrust into this.
With all due respect, you keep insisting it would be impossible to shut down flights and it would do nothing.I whole heartedly disagree. People have passports stating where they are from and where they have been. We deny all people coming from severely infected areas. Who gives a flying **** who we upset. This is now a global epidemic. It is time to start thinking about our own. We worry about everyone else. It's now here, on our aoil, our main focus should be eradicating it, crushing it here.
It is impossible to get EVERY single person to stop. But at this point, any amount of people not coming here, is that many more less people possible becoming infected. If you are a citizen here and you want to come back, you become quarantined. On your dime.
Any little preventative measures will help. Right now shuting down flights will decrease posiible outbreaks the most. Do you think other countries really care about hurting our feelings? We need to stop caring and care for our country that we all, collectively, worked ao hard to build.
I am no where near in panic mode just yet. But id be lying if I said I wasn't a tiny bit nervous. I have 3 small children that are my heart and soul. I will do anything to protect them. Us US citizens are Americas heart and soul, our government should be doing everything to protect us.
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Re: Ebola and the news
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Posted by Xelindrya
Posted by sourpatchkids
I don't really understand how people are NOT concerned about this. Do you trust this ass-clown of a president to protect us from this? I think you'll be changing your tune in a few weeks...
Look.. I can't STAND obamass. I think he's a blithering idiot and worthless. I feel he has caused more pain and misery in this country than the brainwashed country wants to believe. I feel like his terms as president have made our country weaker, less respected and an overall mess
that said..
Its a virus.
Unless you want to blame Obama for not locking down our country ahead of time and Duncan then could never come to the US (which time and time again I said would be impossible, never mind hindsight is impossible to at on).
The government (BOTH SIDES) had very little to do with bringing a deadly virus to the US other than transporting two sick individuals back to America who are now CURED and because they are cured they were able to HELP the first nurse by offering a blood transfusion, not otherwise possible if we'd left them in Africa.
I disagree with mocking those who are sincerely panicked and mostly keep my mouth shut other than to offer reassurances or information to counter. But as an Obama-hater I think his opponents can do better than blaming Ebola fear on him.
I am not concerned .. not because I think the government has ANYTHING to do with it one way or another, but because its the MEDIA who's feeding the panic. The family he was visiting here hasn't been admitted. Nurses broke protocol because they didn't know the protocol and more importantly they are extraordinarily brave individuals who are generally used to handling bodily fluids without thought.
I am not handling or exposed to the bodily fluids of anyone showing signs of Ebola. These two nurses were not only around him but HANDLING him in very close proximity. That is not likely to happen to anyone else in the general public.
Hospitals are understaffed because medical fraud is rampant. Medical Mal is ridiculously expensive. Because medical field is reeling from ACA because the costs to be a doctor well out weights the salary. Nurses are hard to come by trained for trauma for the same reasons.
I am not concerned because there's nothing to be concerned about yet.
Food for thought... none of the nurses handling the other two cured Americans have been diagnosed... and I think its because they knew they were coming and were properly prepared. These two nurses were thrust into this.
With all due respect, you keep insisting it would be impossible to shut down flights and it would do nothing.I whole heartedly disagree. People have passports stating where they are from and where they have been. We deny all people coming from severely infected areas. Who gives a flying **** who we upset. This is now a global epidemic. It is time to start thinking about our own. We worry about everyone else. It's now here, on our aoil, our main focus should be eradicating it, crushing it here.
It is impossible to get EVERY single person to stop. But at this point, any amount of people not coming here, is that many more less people possible becoming infected. If you are a citizen here and you want to come back, you become quarantined. On your dime.
Any little preventative measures will help. Right now shuting down flights will decrease posiible outbreaks the most. Do you think other countries really care about hurting our feelings? We need to stop caring and care for our country that we all, collectively, worked ao hard to build.
I am no where near in panic mode just yet. But id be lying if I said I wasn't a tiny bit nervous. I have 3 small children that are my heart and soul. I will do anything to protect them. Us US citizens are Americas heart and soul, our government should be doing everything to protect us.
Exactly. They can at least try. Colombia did.
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My2Girlz11
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by Xelindrya
Posted by My2Girlz11
They told her not to go on a plane and she did anyway. I am furious with this woman. When people do such selfish things it really angers me. Even if there is just a slight chance of her giving it to someone else, she should have known better. This is the hospitals fault. They should have called their employees and monitored them better.
I can't blame the hospital. She would have said "I felt fine" and still flown. If they said don't fly she could have said "OK" and still flown. This is after all America, she committed no crime, she was not under house arrest.
But you don't think they should have been having her check in or something? Or in my mind these people who are taking care of the ebola patients should be given extra money and be set up somewhere where they can be monitored.
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by My2Girlz11
Posted by Xelindrya
Posted by My2Girlz11
They told her not to go on a plane and she did anyway. I am furious with this woman. When people do such selfish things it really angers me. Even if there is just a slight chance of her giving it to someone else, she should have known better. This is the hospitals fault. They should have called their employees and monitored them better.
I can't blame the hospital. She would have said "I felt fine" and still flown. If they said don't fly she could have said "OK" and still flown. This is after all America, she committed no crime, she was not under house arrest.
But you don't think they should have been having her check in or something? Or in my mind these people who are taking care of the ebola patients should be given extra money and be set up somewhere where they can be monitored.
I think she should have been more responsible.
Again unless you want to quarantine all those who contacted him and now her, its going to be impossible to really control them.
Should they quarantine them all for 30days in a hotel or something, maybe. I am not the Mayor of Dallas.
Also aren't we without a surgeon general right now? If not why not that person be more in control of this?
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My2Girlz11
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Re: Ebola and the news
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Posted by My2Girlz11
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Posted by My2Girlz11
They told her not to go on a plane and she did anyway. I am furious with this woman. When people do such selfish things it really angers me. Even if there is just a slight chance of her giving it to someone else, she should have known better. This is the hospitals fault. They should have called their employees and monitored them better.
I can't blame the hospital. She would have said "I felt fine" and still flown. If they said don't fly she could have said "OK" and still flown. This is after all America, she committed no crime, she was not under house arrest.
But you don't think they should have been having her check in or something? Or in my mind these people who are taking care of the ebola patients should be given extra money and be set up somewhere where they can be monitored.
I think she should have been more responsible.
Again unless you want to quarantine all those who contacted him and now her, its going to be impossible to really control them.
Should they quarantine them all for 30days in a hotel or something, maybe. I am not the Mayor of Dallas.
Also aren't we without a surgeon general right now? If not why not that person be more in control of this?
I just feel a lot better about his whole situation because his family didn't get sick. Although they may have known he had it and not cleaned up any of his vomit. With that said, they know these healthcare workers are high risk. They should be given extra incentives and be monitored somewhere.
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Re: Ebola and the news
I just feel a lot better about his whole situation because his family didn't get sick. Although they may have known he had it and not cleaned up any of his vomit. With that said, they know these healthcare workers are high risk. They should be given extra incentives and be monitored somewhere.
I agree. That is promising. I haven't heard anything more about them, despite their having lived with him for days after having symptoms, even saw a report one of them took care of him, touched his sweat... Sounds like it is way more contagious in the later stages. Praying for the nurses and all the people they came in contact with.
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Leb
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by Danamz
I just feel a lot better about his whole situation because his family didn't get sick. Although they may have known he had it and not cleaned up any of his vomit. With that said, they know these healthcare workers are high risk. They should be given extra incentives and be monitored somewhere.
I agree. That is promising. I haven't heard anything more about them, despite their having lived with him for days after having symptoms, even saw a report one of them took care of him, touched his sweat... Sounds like it is way more contagious in the later stages. Praying for the nurses and all the people they came in contact with.
Supposedly they're still under a mandatory quarantine until Sunday when their 21 days is over.
Also you become progressively more contagious as the disease progresses.
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| Posted 10/15/14 7:23 PM |
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Ebola and the news
People on this thread keep saying I don't understand why people don't take this seriously or why they are not concerned, yada, yada and I think it's because most people aren't going to let fear consume them. I'm still not worried. Why? Because I refuse to let something I have absolutely no control over take over my life. It just seems ludacris to me to worry about something that not anyone has any control over. I feel like constant fear robs us of the other happy and great things in our life. Focus on the now. We should all live one day at a time. I can die tomorrow in a car crash and have zero contact with Ebola. You just never know when your time is up. All I know is I won't let fear consume me because if I am going to die of Ebola than really there is nothing I can really do about it anyway. End of story.
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| Posted 10/15/14 7:34 PM |
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by Jbone88
I have a very good friend who is a virologist, who definitely has his concerns based on the lack of research invested in the virus. Truthfully, what is worrying is how little we know about it. Sanjay Gupta did a piece for cnn back in April speaking to the ease of getting Ebola from microscopic breaks in your skin. There have been animal studies with Ebola showing the potential for mutations that would allow for it to be airborne. Until now there has been very little money invested in researching it (as someone stated above, it wasn't here and people didn't care)
There isn't an accurate understanding of the mortality rate IF it spreads to the US because those rates are based on history. However, there is an estimated rate of 30-50% based on the the supportive care in developed nations.
Again, I work in healthcare settings and I'm not overly concerned BUT I don't think that it's my place to suggest therapy to someone who might be worried, that's just my opinion.
I'm glad you posted this. I was about to say something similar.
One of the main concerns is that it can mutate. It might not be transmitted as easily as the common cold now, but that can change very quickly. My SIL is an infectious disease doctor and my DH is a vaccine developer for GlaxoSmithKline. I do trust their opinions on this stuff... And they are concerned. Not like hiding under the bed worrying, but concerned.
I'm not changing my daily routine and I'm not freaking out. But I'm surprised anyone can truly be totally at ease with the situation. This is unchartered territory. And controlling it requires people to follow sort of an honor system. So far people have been failing at that, imo.
BTW, if you can stomach it, read The Hot Zone. It's 100% true.
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I get how some have fear. Really, I do. But facts say otherwise. I am a bit concerned the way some hospitals aren't fully equipped to handle it.
I read an interesting article on scientific American about mutation http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-the-ebola-virus-will-go-airborne/ .
That being said, I sometimes wonder about the info people get (not necessarily on here). I wonder if they got some info on the monkey bars at recess; it just seems so crazy.
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Posted by KevinNKristin8-15-08
People on this thread keep saying I don't understand why people don't take this seriously or why they are not concerned, yada, yada and I think it's because most people aren't going to let fear consume them. I'm still not worried. Why? Because I refuse to let something I have absolutely no control over take over my life. It just seems ludacris to me to worry about something that not anyone has any control over. I feel like constant fear robs us of the other happy and great things in our life. Focus on the now. We should all live one day at a time. I can die tomorrow in a car crash and have zero contact with Ebola. You just never know when your time is up. All I know is I won't let fear consume me because if I am going to die of Ebola than really there is nothing I can really do about it anyway. End of story.
I agree that it's useless to be worried over something you have no control over and that fear shouldn't prevent you from living. However, I'm very closely following this, and I am concerned. I can't have the attitude of "If I'm meant to die from Ebola, so be it." That's just not my nature...I will do absolutely whatever I can to keep myself and my children safe & healthy. Right now that means paying attention and staying informed on the topic.
Just bc you could die tomorrow in a car crash, doesn't mean you don't wear a seatbelt when you drive.
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Just read this: Nurse asked CDC before she took commercial flight
I was concerned about Ebola earlier this month, but now I'm really worried that our fed g'ment has no clue how to protect us from this.
Should also add my mom is a nurse and usually the voice of reason during many health worries I've been through - and she is genuinely concerned about how this is being handled. 
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Posted by bpmom
Just read this: Nurse asked CDC before she took commercial flight
I was concerned about Ebola earlier this month, but now I'm really worried that our fed g'ment has no clue how to protect us from this.
Should also add my mom is a nurse and usually the voice of reason during many health worries I've been through - and she is genuinely concerned about how this is being handled.
This is what I just heard. She called and they had no concerns about her flying.
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Has anyone heard anything on the people who treated the Drs who were flown back here for treatment? I cannot believe those two nurses so "easily" contracted it and they didnt, I wonder what the difference is.
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My2Girlz11
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Re: Ebola and the news
This article I read said the staff at the hospital were not wearing hazmat suits until 2 days later after it was confirmed he had it.http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/presbyterian-workers-wore-no-protective-gear-for-two-days-while-treating-ebola-patient.html/
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by My2Girlz11
This article I read said the staff at the hospital were not wearing hazmat suits until 2 days later after it was confirmed he had it.http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/presbyterian-workers-wore-no-protective-gear-for-two-days-while-treating-ebola-patient.html/
This is what i read and if so, then it makes more sense they contracted it.
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Re: Ebola and the news
Posted by My2Girlz11
This article I read said the staff at the hospital were not wearing hazmat suits until 2 days later after it was confirmed he had it.http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/presbyterian-workers-wore-no-protective-gear-for-two-days-while-treating-ebola-patient.html/
That is just insane.
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Re: Ebola and the news
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Posted by My2Girlz11
This article I read said the staff at the hospital were not wearing hazmat suits until 2 days later after it was confirmed he had it.http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/presbyterian-workers-wore-no-protective-gear-for-two-days-while-treating-ebola-patient.html/
That is just insane.
shut the front door, if thats true - there are more coming, Im not being an alarmist, but a realist.
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