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MC09
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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Since the quoting got so jumbled I'll just add something else without quoting. In response to Karen's take on Hillary, that's another thing I'd like to address. That you were not supportive of her I can absolutely understand. And Trump himself did go on with his incessant propoganda that she's corrupt, a liar, above the rules, dangerous, etc etc. But with him in office, we have ALL THOSE SAME EXACT THINGS, SURELY EVEN WORSE, but now we get to enjoy a ton of conflicts of interests thrown in, baiting crazy guys in foreign countries in a penis measuring contest he will surely lose, twitter rants at all hours of the night, insulting celebrities, pretty much anyone who's an adversary or questions the almighty overcompensator of short things, an ego too big to fit in the oval office, Russia sniffing around America's ass crack like a dog, and a whole shit circus. So really, how is he better? HE IS EXACTLY THE SAME. But, it's not even about her anymore. He is center stage now, just whee he wanted to be. What I would like to see is his loyal minions holding his feet to the fire now. Don't sit pretty, let him know his ass is on borrowed time if he fukcs up. He ridiculed a lot of people to get where heis, now he better start WORKING his little tail off FOR THE PEOPLE LIKE HE PROMISED. NOT TO LINE HIS AND HIS BAND OF MISFITS' POCKETS.

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Posted 1/16/17 1:38 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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I'm a Trump supporter but I don't have Twitter and I'm not really deeply into politics honestly.

He does act immature I'll admit but he'll learn. I remember Bush Jr. sounding like a complete bumbling fool but he practiced his speeches or something and got better.

A brand new teacher or news anchor or anything will improve with experience.



To OP i think this post sums up the mind of a Trump supporter



That's a bit mean.



Yes. And you all wonder why nobody posts anymore.



Does that really surprise anyone. The amount of venom that is spewed about Trump on how he is racist, the anti Christ, going to ruin everyone's lives comes from people being no better than he is spewing their own stereotypes and passive aggressive comments. Just because people do not think the same as you (the collective you) does mean you can tear apart every single thing someone says. It is absolutely ridiculous. The election is over. The end. Change is this country starts with the people not with the President and the way I'm seeing the Democrats act, I don't know if we would have been any better if the election results were different.




I'm not on LIF that often anymore, when I do, I try and avoid the FHF board as much as possible. I just never knew how different my beliefs were from so many others on LI. Unless its just a weird demographic on here, I don't know.

The last time I posted anything political I was told to not bother trying to post anything pro-Trump on here and stick with FB boards instead. I took that advice for the most part.

I got attacked on this thread because I said that Trump has potential to improve like ANYONE starting ANYTHING new to them.




It's so true when you go to Facebook boards and posts, it's an entirely different tone regarding Trump. It's one sided here on LIF, but then again, it's only a handful of people who go on and on saying the same things.



Well sure, if you stay in a little Trump bubble where everyone only pats each others asses and talks about how great Trump will be while ignoring every horrific thing he is doing to our country of course you're gonna get a different tone.



No, it's called a much broader spectrum than a few housewives on LIF in the LI bubble.



Yeah there are 40+ million other morons who voted for the immature, undisciplined, antagonistic, buffoon and are for some reason proud of it. It's unreal.



And we wonder why the Trump supporters have stopped posting.



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Posted 1/16/17 2:06 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.

Posted 1/16/17 2:07 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Posted by MC09

Since the quoting got so jumbled I'll just add something else without quoting. In response to Karen's take on Hillary, that's another thing I'd like to address. That you were not supportive of her I can absolutely understand. And Trump himself did go on with his incessant propoganda that she's corrupt, a liar, above the rules, dangerous, etc etc. But with him in office, we have ALL THOSE SAME EXACT THINGS, SURELY EVEN WORSE, but now we get to enjoy a ton of conflicts of interests thrown in, baiting crazy guys in foreign countries in a penis measuring contest he will surely lose, twitter rants at all hours of the night, insulting celebrities, pretty much anyone who's an adversary or questions the almighty overcompensator of short things, an ego too big to fit in the oval office, Russia sniffing around America's ass crack like a dog, and a whole shit circus. So really, how is he better? HE IS EXACTLY THE SAME. But, it's not even about her anymore. He is center stage now, just whee he wanted to be. What I would like to see is his loyal minions holding his feet to the fire now. Don't sit pretty, let him know his ass is on borrowed time if he fukcs up. He ridiculed a lot of people to get where heis, now he better start WORKING his little tail off FOR THE PEOPLE LIKE HE PROMISED. NOT TO LINE HIS AND HIS BAND OF MISFITS' POCKETS.


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Posted 1/16/17 3:06 PM
 

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Honest question for Trump supporters

I've been called every name in the book. Libtard and socialist and bleeding heart. Doesn't phase me. I don't like to label people - I try not to.

I still didn't vote for Hillary and have zero issues with it. I have an issue with the bigger machine, the same one that HRC was part of. I also didn't vote for trump either.

I think it's sad to attack one another. We are all victims of a flawed government and flawed officials. People who are out of touch completely on both sides of the aisle. If you don't think Hillary wouldn't line her pockets or pay back favors, you're seriously misguided. To pretend she was the less of two evils is incorrect.

We are literally fighting over crumbs while the rich get richer and more powerful. We are at their mercy. I wish more people would acknowledge that and demand more and better from their officials.

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Posted 1/16/17 7:10 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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I've been called every name in the book. Libtard and socialist and bleeding heart. Doesn't phase me. I don't like to label people - I try not to.

I still didn't vote for Hillary and have zero issues with it. I have an issue with the bigger machine, the same one that HRC was part of. I also didn't vote for trump either.

I think it's sad to attack one another. We are all victims of a flawed government and flawed officials. People who are out of touch completely on both sides of the aisle. If you don't think Hillary wouldn't line her pockets or pay back favors, you're seriously misguided. To pretend she was the less of two evils is incorrect.

We are literally fighting over crumbs while the rich get richer and more powerful. We are at their mercy. I wish more people would acknowledge that and demand more and better from their officials.



Chat Icon I don't think she will be canonized saint anytime soon. My point is, it's like two different worlds. They fear her corruption, but are reassured by his, like his is somehow less dangerous.

Posted 1/16/17 7:19 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Posted by MC09

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I've been called every name in the book. Libtard and socialist and bleeding heart. Doesn't phase me. I don't like to label people - I try not to.

I still didn't vote for Hillary and have zero issues with it. I have an issue with the bigger machine, the same one that HRC was part of. I also didn't vote for trump either.

I think it's sad to attack one another. We are all victims of a flawed government and flawed officials. People who are out of touch completely on both sides of the aisle. If you don't think Hillary wouldn't line her pockets or pay back favors, you're seriously misguided. To pretend she was the less of two evils is incorrect.

We are literally fighting over crumbs while the rich get richer and more powerful. We are at their mercy. I wish more people would acknowledge that and demand more and better from their officials.



Chat Icon I don't think she will be canonized saint anytime soon. My point is, it's like two different worlds. They fear her corruption, but are reassured by his, like his is somehow less dangerous.



I agree with both of you and what you wrote in the previous post MC09. There are no winners here.

Posted 1/16/17 7:46 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



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Posted 1/16/17 7:49 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



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Posted 1/16/17 8:44 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



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That's a very interesting perspective. My inlaws, who are registered democrats, almost always vote republican locally. That's because in their experience, my severely disabled sister in law gets better access to programs and funding under republican leadership. Her diagnosis is cerebral palsy and she's had this diagnosis for about 46 years. I asked my husband why this is and his response was that republicans are more willing to spend money they might not even have rather than get rid of these programs. My inlaws are not stupid people and my mother in law is probably one of the best advocates I have ever see of a mother for a child.

Posted 1/16/17 9:57 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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That's a very interesting perspective. My inlaws, who are registered democrats, almost always vote republican locally. That's because in their experience, my severely disabled sister in law gets better access to programs and funding under republican leadership. Her diagnosis is cerebral palsy and she's had this diagnosis for about 46 years. I asked my husband why this is and his response was that republicans are more willing to spend money they might not even have rather than get rid of these programs. My inlaws are not stupid people and my mother in law is probably one of the best advocates I have ever see of a mother for a child.



Do they live on LI? There are some interesting bedfellows with LI politics and disability funding but historically every dime can be a fight for people with I/DD.

Posted 1/16/17 10:08 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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That's a very interesting perspective. My inlaws, who are registered democrats, almost always vote republican locally. That's because in their experience, my severely disabled sister in law gets better access to programs and funding under republican leadership. Her diagnosis is cerebral palsy and she's had this diagnosis for about 46 years. I asked my husband why this is and his response was that republicans are more willing to spend money they might not even have rather than get rid of these programs. My inlaws are not stupid people and my mother in law is probably one of the best advocates I have ever see of a mother for a child.



Do they live on LI? There are some interesting bedfellows with LI politics and disability funding but historically every dime can be a fight for people with I/DD.



Yes, they live in Nassau and always have.

Posted 1/16/17 10:18 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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Posted by KarenK122

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



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That's a very interesting perspective. My inlaws, who are registered democrats, almost always vote republican locally. That's because in their experience, my severely disabled sister in law gets better access to programs and funding under republican leadership. Her diagnosis is cerebral palsy and she's had this diagnosis for about 46 years. I asked my husband why this is and his response was that republicans are more willing to spend money they might not even have rather than get rid of these programs. My inlaws are not stupid people and my mother in law is probably one of the best advocates I have ever see of a mother for a child.



Interesting. I don't vote blindly along party lines but I have only voted for one (local assemblyman) Republican in my life after doing my due diligence. Of course no one I voted for in the most recent election won so I'll be keeping a close eye on the ones who have. They were all re-elected and I wasn't impressed before so I'm not expecting much now. We'll see.

Posted 1/16/17 11:19 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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I've been called every name in the book. Libtard and socialist and bleeding heart. Doesn't phase me. I don't like to label people - I try not to.

I still didn't vote for Hillary and have zero issues with it. I have an issue with the bigger machine, the same one that HRC was part of. I also didn't vote for trump either.

I think it's sad to attack one another. We are all victims of a flawed government and flawed officials. People who are out of touch completely on both sides of the aisle. If you don't think Hillary wouldn't line her pockets or pay back favors, you're seriously misguided. To pretend she was the less of two evils is incorrect.

We are literally fighting over crumbs while the rich get richer and more powerful. We are at their mercy. I wish more people would acknowledge that and demand more and better from their officials.



I completely agree.

Posted 1/17/17 7:07 AM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

His ludicrous behavior is part of the package. To accept him and support him you have to accept his behavior. You can't say "well, he's an ass but he has wonderful ideas. I'm concerned with his MANY conflicts of interest, but he sure is skilled at foreign policy! He may be taunting China and in bed with Russia, and that sure makes me uneasy, but man is he a wonderful negotiator or what?!"

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This literally is the example of cognitive dissonance. I have seen it in full swing since Trump showed up. Its fascinating.

Posted 1/17/17 2:16 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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Yeah there are 40+ million other morons who voted for the immature, undisciplined, antagonistic, buffoon and are for some reason proud of it. It's unreal.

That comment is very Trump of you. It's amazing that you are emulating the behavior that you are so adamantly against.

Why is it that the behavior is ok for the guy you (general you) voted to be next president, but not for someone who doesn't support him? Why do they get called "just like Trump", the guy YOU support? ( again, general you)... You acknowledge he's an ass yet you support him anyway?




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I have never condoned Trumps behavior. I have said numerous times that he sticks his foot in his mouth and needs to get off of social media. And yes I can acknowledge that he is an ass but voting for Hillary (and it really doesn't matter if anyone agrees with me) would have had me voting for a bigger ass.

Both sides put up crappy options so there was no win either way. I am far from a Trump cheerleader but I do agree in theory with some of what he is saying. I am also willing to hear his plans before I start jumping to conclusions on how he is ruining the country. Obviously people do not agree and that is fine. All i have been asking for the months leading up to and after the election is that people are respectful and calling people names and stereotyping people are uncalled for. You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.




His ludicrous behavior is part of the package. To accept him and support him you have to accept his behavior. You can't say "well, he's an ass but he has wonderful ideas. I'm concerned with his MANY conflicts of interest, but he sure is skilled at foreign policy! He may be taunting China and in bed with Russia, and that sure makes me uneasy, but man is he a wonderful negotiator or what?!"

He's showing no signs of slowing down or growing the fukc up at 70 years old and turning a new leaf with his shit.ty behavior. He's full steam ahead. If you accept him, you have to be ok with his behavior, even if reluctantly.

And I like that you bring up the fact that you can be a republican and have compassion for others. And while I agree completely that is not something I'm seeing from most republicans. Especially not when mrsdiamondgirlie makes comments about those that are less fortunate than her family and how she shouldn't have to pay a dime to help them, they should figure it out for themselves. This is America after all, land of fukc you. Where's the compassion? You can be optimistic but people are justified in feeling true fear, especially with EVERYTHING that surrounds this man, the corruption, conflicts of interest, the baiting crazed leaders, the secrecy around what's to replace the ACA. Are you confident it will be replaced satisfactorily, considering what's to come is shrouded in secrecy? We know very little about their plans because they don't even know themselves what's to come. Are you cool with that? Just flying by the seat of your pants, playing it by ear? You singled out Elizarags and said she's behaving like the very guy you support to lead the country. That's hypocritical. Where is the compassion for her? For her fears, with everything she's been through with her DD who is now going to be diagnosed with a condition that will not only impact her quality of life but may impede her from getting quality health coverage if ACA is repealed and not replaced with a suitable policy. Where is the compassion for all the people and all the families that will be impacted by all Trump's asinine ideas? Where does gay marriage stand? Anti-discrimination for transgendered? All the people that fear Trump provoking dictators in other nations and wanting an arms race? All the people who fear Trump's ties to Russia and Russia's interference with OUR ELECTION? Those that fear a tax increase when they're barely getting by as is? All the people that fear the fact that he'll change his stance on an issue seven times in one sitting, will deny he said something when it's easily verifiable and there's documented footage? That's all easy to dismiss, right? Who cares as long as the other one is out, right? All I hear is "liberal tears", "snowflake", and the disgustingly repulsive term "libtard"? How is that compassion? It's always one-sided isn't it? It seems the compassion is only supposed to come from one side. Go high when they go low, right? Except make sure you can go as disgustingly low as possible, wallow in the mud if you have to, to drag them down with you. Obviously, going high didn't and doesn't work with this group of mostly narrow-minded people. Many of them are immune even to reason and logic. And that's what people are responding to.




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Posted 1/17/17 2:18 PM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



Comments like this prove what kind of person you are. You claim to be compassionate just like democrats are. Chat Icon But honestly, this lacks class and compassion. And not to mention past finger pointing- calling me a sh*t stirrer? Well, this takes the cake as well of some of your other tasteless comments you make.

And my response to the OP- I think his Twitter account and all of social media should be suspended for the duration of his term.

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Posted 1/18/17 7:52 AM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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And my response to the OP- I think his Twitter account and all of social media should be suspended for the duration of his term.



Thank you for this. There is a difference between deciding for whatever your reasoning is that candidate A is better than candidate B. But choosing to vote for candidate A does not have to mean candidate A is perfect in every way and you cannot find fault with anything they do. That goes both ways and it goes beyond these candidates. But I'm frustrated and shocked by the number of people who will defend *everything* their candidate of choice does -- there is fault with everyone and just because you chose to vote for them over their opponent doesn't mean you can't acknowledge their flaws. Its in everyones best interest to do so.

Posted 1/18/17 10:26 AM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Posted by MrsMick

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



Comments like this prove what kind of person you are. You claim to be compassionate just like democrats are. Chat Icon But honestly, this lacks class and compassion. And not to mention past finger pointing- calling me a sh*t stirrer? Well, this takes the cake as well of some of your other tasteless comments you make.

And my response to the OP- I think his Twitter account and all of social media should be suspended for the duration of his term.



Said the person who called someone who disagreed with you "an idiot." Your house is made of glass.

Posted 1/18/17 10:30 AM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Posted by MrsMick

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



Comments like this prove what kind of person you are. You claim to be compassionate just like democrats are. Chat Icon But honestly, this lacks class and compassion. And not to mention past finger pointing- calling me a sh*t stirrer? Well, this takes the cake as well of some of your other tasteless comments you make.

And my response to the OP- I think his Twitter account and all of social media should be suspended for the duration of his term.



Maybe she is a mom who is terrified for her daughter's diagnosis and what that means - why is that so dang hard for you to comprehend? You will clearly never know that fear if you have solid health insurance and healthy children with no worries about money, paying for exorbitant medical bills or anything else.

Posted 1/18/17 10:32 AM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Posted by JennP

Posted by MrsMick

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



Comments like this prove what kind of person you are. You claim to be compassionate just like democrats are. Chat Icon But honestly, this lacks class and compassion. And not to mention past finger pointing- calling me a sh*t stirrer? Well, this takes the cake as well of some of your other tasteless comments you make.

And my response to the OP- I think his Twitter account and all of social media should be suspended for the duration of his term.



Said the person who called someone who disagreed with you "an idiot." Your house is made of glass.



Yes, it is glass and I can see through all the BS with what is wrong with the healthcare system.

And to the poster that commented after you, I do know what it is like to pay through the nose for healthcare. Since Obama has overhauled the healthcare system, I probably paid close to 10K out of pocket. Prior to the so called affordable healthcare act, I'd pay maybe low hundreds. Doesn't anyone see what is wrong with this picture?

Posted 1/19/17 6:47 AM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Posted by MrsMick

Posted by JennP

Posted by MrsMick

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



Comments like this prove what kind of person you are. You claim to be compassionate just like democrats are. Chat Icon But honestly, this lacks class and compassion. And not to mention past finger pointing- calling me a sh*t stirrer? Well, this takes the cake as well of some of your other tasteless comments you make.

And my response to the OP- I think his Twitter account and all of social media should be suspended for the duration of his term.



Said the person who called someone who disagreed with you "an idiot." Your house is made of glass.



Yes, it is glass and I can see through all the BS with what is wrong with the healthcare system.

And to the poster that commented after you, I do know what it is like to pay through the nose for healthcare. Since Obama has overhauled the healthcare system, I probably paid close to 10K out of pocket. Prior to the so called affordable healthcare act, I'd pay maybe low hundreds. Doesn't anyone see what is wrong with this picture?



I have no idea what it's like to pay out the nose for healthcare. There was a time in my life, when I was fresh out of school and after 23 and I was dropped from dad's healthcare, so I went without healthcare because I COULDN'T afford it. There was no other option. There were millions of people out there like that. The ACA helped that.

Consider yourself lucky that you had a fantastic health plan before. Consider yourself lucky that you can pay for your healthcare now. Or can you not afford it?

I'm assuming the money you have paid is based on your income. That's how it's done here. If you have a certain income, you pay more for healthcare. I used to balk that I had to do that. Then I realized that it's based on income and I'm lucky that I can pay that. Now I completely understand. It's not me, me, me all the time.

ETA: So yes, I see what's wrong with this picture. People are upset because they have to pay more money for health insurance. While they live in their cushy house on LI. With 2 SUVs. Nice clothes. Manis once a week.

Other people around the country are also covered. But these people who have to pay more for their insurance want it to go back so other people won't be covered, so they can have their cheaper insurance and get a 3rd SUV.

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Posted 1/19/17 7:09 AM
 

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The Republican party tends not to support stem cell research, which would cure and prevent the horrible diseases we seek to treat. I can respect the underlying religious belief, but it hurts the world.

And climate change deniers? To me, too stupid or too delusional to be leading the free world. No respect.

As for Trump, he is simply too reckless, self indulgent, and ignorant for anyone to have trusted him.

People who block or deny the science that we need to live are nonstarters.

Posted 1/19/17 7:52 AM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

Posted by MrsMick

Posted by JennP

Posted by MrsMick

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by mrsrainbow



You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



Comments like this prove what kind of person you are. You claim to be compassionate just like democrats are. Chat Icon But honestly, this lacks class and compassion. And not to mention past finger pointing- calling me a sh*t stirrer? Well, this takes the cake as well of some of your other tasteless comments you make.

And my response to the OP- I think his Twitter account and all of social media should be suspended for the duration of his term.



Said the person who called someone who disagreed with you "an idiot." Your house is made of glass.



Yes, it is glass and I can see through all the BS with what is wrong with the healthcare system.

And to the poster that commented after you, I do know what it is like to pay through the nose for healthcare. Since Obama has overhauled the healthcare system, I probably paid close to 10K out of pocket. Prior to the so called affordable healthcare act, I'd pay maybe low hundreds. Doesn't anyone see what is wrong with this picture?



You do realize that the actual ACA is a watered down version of what actually was proposed because the Republicans made it that way???Or are you naive enough to think that is how it is.

Posted 1/19/17 10:26 AM
 

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Re: Honest question for Trump supporters

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You can be a republican and have compassion for your fellow man, they are not mutually exclusive.



I think the Republican idea of "compassion" has a very murky definition. How can you be compassionate to taking away health insurance for millions of people?



Republicans have compassion for themselves and unviable fetuses.



Comments like this prove what kind of person you are. You claim to be compassionate just like democrats are. Chat Icon But honestly, this lacks class and compassion. And not to mention past finger pointing- calling me a sh*t stirrer? Well, this takes the cake as well of some of your other tasteless comments you make.

And my response to the OP- I think his Twitter account and all of social media should be suspended for the duration of his term.



Said the person who called someone who disagreed with you "an idiot." Your house is made of glass.



Yes, it is glass and I can see through all the BS with what is wrong with the healthcare system.

And to the poster that commented after you, I do know what it is like to pay through the nose for healthcare. Since Obama has overhauled the healthcare system, I probably paid close to 10K out of pocket. Prior to the so called affordable healthcare act, I'd pay maybe low hundreds. Doesn't anyone see what is wrong with this picture?



I have no idea what it's like to pay out the nose for healthcare. There was a time in my life, when I was fresh out of school and after 23 and I was dropped from dad's healthcare, so I went without healthcare because I COULDN'T afford it. There was no other option. There were millions of people out there like that. The ACA helped that.

Consider yourself lucky that you had a fantastic health plan before. Consider yourself lucky that you can pay for your healthcare now. Or can you not afford it?

I'm assuming the money you have paid is based on your income. That's how it's done here. If you have a certain income, you pay more for healthcare. I used to balk that I had to do that. Then I realized that it's based on income and I'm lucky that I can pay that. Now I completely understand. It's not me, me, me all the time.

ETA: So yes, I see what's wrong with this picture. People are upset because they have to pay more money for health insurance. While they live in their cushy house on LI. With 2 SUVs. Nice clothes. Manis once a week.

Other people around the country are also covered. But these people who have to pay more for their insurance want it to go back so other people won't be covered, so they can have their cheaper insurance and get a 3rd SUV.

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Chat Icon The only way America will become great again is if people stopped being self centered a holes!

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