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im not asking you to change my mind, im asking you to back up what you are saying. theres a big difference in struggling to live in lloyd harbor, or struggling to find an affordable condo in an iffy area.

this is an exceprt from an article in 2002 from the ny times which backs what im saying:

In the mid-1960's, Trudy and Adam Gaus, who were then in their 20's, were able to purchase their $22,500 three-bedroom cedar-shaked ranch house in Hauppauge on Mr. Gaus's $12,000-a-year engineer's salary. The newly built house had a full basement, a den with a fireplace, an eat-in-kitchen and a dining room. Mrs. Gaus gave up her job as an art teacher and stayed at home to raise her two sons. This year, she said, a similar house in the neighborhood sold for $350,000.

Specialists in Long Island's demography say the profile of the average first-time home buyer has drastically changed since the late 1960's.

''Back then, the value of a house was twice that of the median income and was affordable on one salary,'' said Roy Fedelem, principal planner at the Suffolk County Planning Department.

''Between 1980 and 1990, all that changed -- the house prices tripled,'' he said. ''While the income went up as well, it wasn't enough, and that's when we had a problem. A family with a median income could no longer afford a median-income house on one salary.''

In November 2001, the average house in Nassau County closed for $337,724, and in Suffolk for $268,836, according to the Long Island Board of Realtors.

Katy Anastasio, the principal of Anastasio Associates in Huntington, who sold the Careys their house, said many houses selling for about the average price today require extensive repairs.

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Posted by sasha

To all those in "limbo"...and all those waiting for their old neighbors to "pass" ... House dust!

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Posted by anon

come to new jersey

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Message edited 8/11/2006 11:21:56 AM.

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I just want to know...how did this become a debate of the "stays" vs. the "goes".

So NOT the point!

We all have our reasons...I don't think it's fair to constantly try to justify them. For what? I can't say "you're a dummy for staying and loving it" and if someone says that I'm a "dummy for leaving and loving it" they're missing the point.

This debate gets SO OLD...and always off track.

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Posted by sasha

I just want to know...how did this become a debate of the "stays" vs. the "goes".

So NOT the point!

We all have our reasons...I don't think it's fair to constantly try to justify them. For what? I can't say "you're a dummy for staying and loving it" and if someone says that I'm a "dummy for leaving and loving it" they're missing the point.

This debate gets SO OLD...and always off track.

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I agree, sometimes moving out of state is just not an option - I won't go. My DH knew that after our first date ! My family is here ........
But, you then have to ACCEPT the reality of living on Long Island. - I could care less about having a huge mini mansion if I have to go out of state - what's the point of having a big beautiful home if it's always empty ?? (again, this is MY opinion .......)
I personally would rather pay a small fortune for a modest home that will be full of my friends and family where my future children will be able to grow up as close to their cousins as I am to mine -
But that is what is most important to me, although it's frustrating at times, in the end, paying half a million for a cape in Nassua county and taking the next 10 years to renovate if I have to is worth it -
So, I face the reality of my decisions, and take the house hunt from there.

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Posted by lorich

I personally think it's not a debate of stay or go...it's more a debate of stop yapping...it is what it is and there's not much we can do about it. Stop looking elsewhere because it's not helping your case if what you really want to do is to stay here on LI.

It's also not a debate about what it was like in the day...we are here and now....who give a rats azz on what it was back then...Unless you all have freakin' time machines.


ETA: I think the OP just needs some I love ya D!

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Colleen - i didnt gloss over what you said i had mentioned it in a previous post.

I am in the exact same boat as you - fh and i have no help from anyone, and the only debt we have is my car payment and student loans (we both paid for our college educations ourselves). You have a very inspiring story.

I was just trying to point out that its harder now than it was in the past. thats all.

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Message edited 8/11/2006 12:01:09 PM.

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Posted by sasha

Posted by Meaghan729


I was just trying to point out that its harder now than it was in the past. thats all.

Meaghan, don't bother, unless you have a time machine!



Seriously, I think the examples are for emplathy's sake, to have a common "I knew it"...

Back To The Future is just a movie, right?

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In reading everything, obviously you are on the same page and there was no harm done or tones here. Sasha I am a little taken back by your comments aimed at my sister

It's not a debate who had it rougher. nomatter what generation you came from everyone has/had it rough in their own way and time.

both colleen and meahgan are correct in their findings and backups. There is no wrongs here. just opinions about the subject, no need to take it any steps further.

The problem as we all know with chats are that people don't truly know one another so they take ones comment to heart or not understand what that person meant. As each have explained their words I think it should be left at that and not dragged any further.

I don't see Meaghan or colleen annoyed with either one (could be wrong here ) It seems like they are two adults having a healthy topic of discussion. One does not have to agree with the other.

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Posted by LisaI

In reading everything, obviously you are on the same page and there was no harm done or tones here. Sasha I am a little taken back by your comments aimed at my sister

It's not a debate who had it rougher. nomatter what generation you came from everyone has/had it rough in their own way and time.

both colleen and meahgan are correct in their findings and backups. There is no wrongs here. just opinions about the subject, no need to take it any steps further.

The problem as we all know with chats are that people don't truly know one another so they take ones comment to heart or not understand what that person meant. As each have explained their words I think it should be left at that and not dragged any further.

I don't see Meaghan or colleen annoyed with either one (could be wrong here ) It seems like they are two adults having a healthy topic of discussion. One does not have to agree with the other.

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Posted by LisaI

Sasha I am a little taken back by your comments aimed at my sister

I don't see Meaghan or colleen annoyed with either one (could be wrong here ) It seems like they are two adults having a healthy topic of discussion. One does not have to agree with the other.

Message edited 8/11/2006 12:15:53 PM.

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Here are my thoughts:

Im not mad at Colleen, and I hope she's not mad at me! Just a debate, we're both smart people. I enjoy hearing other peoples opinions, it opens you mind up to other possibilities....

and if you are sick of hearing the same arguement, then dont respond. just go onto another topic.

I am at a crossroads in my life, as Sasha you were, where I am getting married, and wondering whether it is worth it to stay here. so this topic is constantly on my mind. So if I bring it up all the time, its because its on my mind all of the time!

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Posted by sasha

Posted by LisaI

Sasha I am a little taken back by your comments aimed at my sister

I don't see Meaghan or colleen annoyed with either one (could be wrong here ) It seems like they are two adults having a healthy topic of discussion. One does not have to agree with the other.

I wasn't personally attacking anyone, I was backing up what I was saying though. Not sure why you feel that way.

This wasn't a back and forth between just 2 people. A lot of people are annoyed at the same thing being brought up over and over and over again.

If everyone agreed or shared the same opinion, it would be a boring world. I think I even said that directly to your sister.

Didn't mean to offend anyone... Am so sick of the same debate though.

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hey, can I get a time machine?

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Meahgan, it is such a hard decision. I can relate. I too like Sasha left LI for GA. DH and I left at a time where you are right now. just starting out together. We got engaged, moved to GA and never looked back. It was there now and this opporunity smacked me in the face I probably would not go and be in the same crossroads as you.

my only advice is to ,if you can pick out 3 places in the Country you want to live (obviously LIisi one) and do some serious reseach and visit them.

whatever decision you make it will be difficult for being home owners is not easy to begin with, then add a new state/way of life and so forth on top of that.

Moving was the best decision for us and I don't regret it one bit, but like I said if I was 30 married with a kid now making that decision it may not be so easy as it was then.

good luck in your decision.

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Sh!t, I'm just going to be quiet...Meaghan, I'm sorry I sounded like I was sick of you posting the same thing. I'm not. I'm sick of the same debate...the "here" vs. "not" debate. The one that tends to mention "the South" and "go get that if that's what you want" as if it's super easy. And I often find myself having to defend my choice.

Anyway, Lisa gave you great advice. We were looking in: LI, PA, NJ, CT, NC and GA. We visited all except NC (because GA was so much easier since my family was there). And we visited with "intentions to live there" to see if we liked it. It worked out for us, like Lisa said though, don't know how much harder the decision would have been had we waited.

It's hard. Nothing else to say.

Good luck...

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Posted by MrsRbk

Posted by anon

come to new jersey

I second that

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Meaghan can I make a suggestion.. Please.............

Get married first, have a little fun time with your spouse, no one ever died from renting. Enjoy your time then pick up the house search again.

No need to stresssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss enjoy these days