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Redhead
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by MrsT
Posted by Redhead
Posted by MrsT
Posted by Redhead
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn girls....no need to keep quoting each other
makes for a hard read  
My bad. Bits and pieces of my original post were taken out of context. I hate that  so I quoted my entire initial comments. As everyone from LIW knows, I tend to be verbose
well rock on....i agree with the majority of what you said
one question...if the police officers that were primarily involved of the minorty race...
do you still find what happened racist?
just curious
I'm not sure that this situation was racially motivated but honestly minority police officers are also bigots against minorites. They are just as quick to conclude that a minority suspect was in the wrong. I personally know a Latino NYPD lieutenant and some of the things that come out of his mouth about minorites scare me. Thankfully he is no longer in my circle of boyfriends of close friends.
DH has some Black male detective friends who hold some views that I also find racist against minorities.
I concede that everyone has some racial biases (some more so than others) but people that are hired to "protect and serve" with badges and a licensed gun should keep such views in check as much as possible.
agreed
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emilain
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by Redhead
Posted by MrsT
Posted by Redhead
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn girls....no need to keep quoting each other
makes for a hard read
My bad. Bits and pieces of my original post were taken out of context. I hate that so I quoted my entire initial comments. As everyone from LIW knows, I tend to be verbose
well rock on....i agree with the majority of what you said
one question...if the police officers that were primarily involved of the minorty race...
do you still find what happened racist?
just curious
it has less to do with black vs white and more to do with the fact that time, place, criminal background put them at a disadvantage. Any clutural background can be racist even within their own race, there are so many other factors in this case, it is just UNREAL!
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| Posted 11/28/06 9:23 PM |
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MrsKelly
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
so what's your take on the shell casings that were found at the scene and WEREN'T discharged out of the officers weapons?
oh wait, the media didn't expose that, did they?
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| Posted 11/28/06 9:59 PM |
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neenie
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
well, it would just be silly to think that they would bring out the best in people.
then they wouldn't be called "hot" topics.
they'd be called rainbows and butterflies
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| Posted 11/28/06 10:03 PM |
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emilain
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by MrsKelly
so what's your take on the shell casings that were found at the scene and WEREN'T discharged out of the officers weapons?
oh wait, the media didn't expose that, did they?
ok, so how do you know that?
ETA- oh, I just read you are an officer, careful what "inside" Knowledge you share on this public forum, don't get yourself in trouble, you never know who is reading
Message edited 11/28/2006 10:11:24 PM.
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| Posted 11/28/06 10:05 PM |
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sometimesmommy
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Not to be devil's advocate but i have a relative who is IA and I know all about cops planting evidence...not saying it happened here but I dont know what to believe anymore wether it is this case or any other for that matter.
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| Posted 11/28/06 10:28 PM |
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DaniJude
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by emilain
Posted by MrsKelly
so what's your take on the shell casings that were found at the scene and WEREN'T discharged out of the officers weapons?
oh wait, the media didn't expose that, did they?
ok, so how do you know that?
ETA- oh, I just read you are an officer, careful what "inside" Knowledge you share on this public forum, don't get yourself in trouble, you never know who is reading
I thought you weren't sure if it was inside knowledge or not- maybe she just heard it on the news? I don't even know if it is "inside" or if it is now public knowledge. And I don't think she has anything to worry about- she just stated something that she had heard- and she is not giving out personal information. I don't think there was any reason to state that she should be careful, JMO.
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| Posted 11/28/06 10:34 PM |
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Moosey911
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by nixy
it's much easier to say these things on an anonymous chat board. I don't think it would have gone on as long if people were face to face.
I would go on and on if I met some of the liberals on this forum face to face....but, that's just me. I love a good debate (especially when I'm right  ) Believe me, I come from an EXTREMELY liberal family....I was supposed to be a doctor...so, I got my paramedic and my RN first...but decided not to go that route. Imagine my family's surprise when I became a cop in the South Bronx!!! It makes for some good converasation during holiday dinners. So, yes....I could talk about this all day! (and still win... )
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| Posted 11/28/06 10:51 PM |
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Moosey911
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by emilain
Posted by MrsKelly
so what's your take on the shell casings that were found at the scene and WEREN'T discharged out of the officers weapons?
oh wait, the media didn't expose that, did they?
ok, so how do you know that?
ETA- oh, I just read you are an officer, careful what "inside" Knowledge you share on this public forum, don't get yourself in trouble, you never know who is reading
I thought you weren't sure if it was inside knowledge or not- maybe she just heard it on the news? I don't even know if it is "inside" or if it is now public knowledge. And I don't think she has anything to worry about- she just stated something that she had heard- and she is not giving out personal information. I don't think there was any reason to state that she should be careful, JMO.
The shell casings inside the car aren't public knowledge yet....and yes, she should be careful what she writes (which is why I have only argued the media "facts")....I know all of the true facts first hand....but will not discuss them here until everything has cooled down in the media.
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| Posted 11/28/06 10:52 PM |
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emilain
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by emilain
Posted by MrsKelly
so what's your take on the shell casings that were found at the scene and WEREN'T discharged out of the officers weapons?
oh wait, the media didn't expose that, did they?
ok, so how do you know that?
ETA- oh, I just read you are an officer, careful what "inside" Knowledge you share on this public forum, don't get yourself in trouble, you never know who is reading
I thought you weren't sure if it was inside knowledge or not- maybe she just heard it on the news? I don't even know if it is "inside" or if it is now public knowledge. And I don't think she has anything to worry about- she just stated something that she had heard- and she is not giving out personal information. I don't think there was any reason to state that she should be careful, JMO.
Ok, calm yourself, I was TRULY just looking out for her. BTW- why are you talking for her? In this post and in another you have spoken for her a few times. No need to get defensive "for her" this is a public forum and if you say something that is not in the media it is obviously not public knowledge yet.
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| Posted 11/28/06 10:58 PM |
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emilain
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by Moosey911
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by emilain
Posted by MrsKelly
so what's your take on the shell casings that were found at the scene and WEREN'T discharged out of the officers weapons?
oh wait, the media didn't expose that, did they?
ok, so how do you know that?
ETA- oh, I just read you are an officer, careful what "inside" Knowledge you share on this public forum, don't get yourself in trouble, you never know who is reading
I thought you weren't sure if it was inside knowledge or not- maybe she just heard it on the news? I don't even know if it is "inside" or if it is now public knowledge. And I don't think she has anything to worry about- she just stated something that she had heard- and she is not giving out personal information. I don't think there was any reason to state that she should be careful, JMO.
The shell casings inside the car aren't public knowledge yet....and yes, she should be careful what she writes (which is why I have only argued the media "facts")....I know all of the true facts first hand....but will not discuss them here until everything has cooled down in the media.
thank you, this is exactly what I meant.
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| Posted 11/28/06 10:59 PM |
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MrsKelly
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
maybe i SHOULD watch what i say... it just truly irks me that everything thinks they know everything, when in fact, they haven't a clue. so quick to judge. but again, if you weren't there and you don't know firsthand, don't be so quick to judge based on what the media throws out there... it's not an informed judgement. i'm done.
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emilain
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by MrsKelly
maybe i SHOULD watch what i say... it just truly irks me that everything thinks they know everything, when in fact, they haven't a clue. so quick to judge. but again, if you weren't there and you don't know firsthand, don't be so quick to judge based on what the media throws out there... it's not an informed judgement. i'm done.
great point Be safe out there MrsKelly
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| Posted 11/28/06 11:13 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by MrsKelly
maybe i SHOULD watch what i say... it just truly irks me that everything thinks they know everything, when in fact, they haven't a clue. so quick to judge. but again, if you weren't there and you don't know firsthand, don't be so quick to judge based on what the media throws out there... it's not an informed judgement. i'm done.
excuse me....but most of us are reading the newpaper and watching what we see on tv ...
Not for nothing opinions can be formed on that...not everyone has to go seek out every little detail.
ASIDE from the fact that WE WEREN'T THERE...
WE MIGHT NEVER know the real truth..
Newspapers nor cops are never 100% truth in the forthcomming of FACTS..
So i will say i won't really believe any of what is said by etiher side now.
But in bare min info...people CAN AND DO form opinions..and there is nothing wrong with that..
CONVERSATIONS and talking to others can bring more light into the subject..
IT HAPPENS EVERY FLUCKING DAY since nobody knows everything
So unless YOU were there that night or anyone was THERE that night...
then we ALL don't have a clue...we are going on what the media is telling us
Message edited 11/29/2006 5:51:34 AM.
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MrsMerlot
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
kinda glad i missed what went down...looks like it got ugly
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| Posted 11/29/06 6:49 AM |
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2PreciousBlessings
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by Redhead
Posted by MrsKelly
maybe i SHOULD watch what i say... it just truly irks me that everything thinks they know everything, when in fact, they haven't a clue. so quick to judge. but again, if you weren't there and you don't know firsthand, don't be so quick to judge based on what the media throws out there... it's not an informed judgement. i'm done.
excuse me....but most of us are reading the newpaper and watching what we see on tv ...
Not for nothing opinions can be formed on that...not everyone has to go seek out every little detail.
ASIDE from the fact that WE WEREN'T THERE...
WE MIGHT NEVER know the real truth..
Newspapers nor cops are never 100% truth in the forthcomming of FACTS..
So i will say i won't really believe any of what is said by etiher side now.
But in bare min info...people CAN AND DO form opinions..and there is nothing wrong with that..
CONVERSATIONS and talking to others can bring more light into the subject..
IT HAPPENS EVERY FLUCKING DAY since nobody knows everything
So unless YOU were there that night or anyone was THERE that night...
then we ALL don't have a clue...we are going on what the media is telling us
Completely agree!!
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| Posted 11/29/06 6:58 AM |
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MrsKelly
just hangin' around...
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by Redhead
Posted by MrsKelly
maybe i SHOULD watch what i say... it just truly irks me that everything thinks they know everything, when in fact, they haven't a clue. so quick to judge. but again, if you weren't there and you don't know firsthand, don't be so quick to judge based on what the media throws out there... it's not an informed judgement. i'm done.
excuse me....but most of us are reading the newpaper and watching what we see on tv ...
Not for nothing opinions can be formed on that...not everyone has to go seek out every little detail.
ASIDE from the fact that WE WEREN'T THERE...
WE MIGHT NEVER know the real truth..
Newspapers nor cops are never 100% truth in the forthcomming of FACTS..
So i will say i won't really believe any of what is said by etiher side now.
But in bare min info...people CAN AND DO form opinions..and there is nothing wrong with that..
CONVERSATIONS and talking to others can bring more light into the subject..
IT HAPPENS EVERY FLUCKING DAY since nobody knows everything
So unless YOU were there that night or anyone was THERE that night...
then we ALL don't have a clue...we are going on what the media is telling us
i just think it's unfair to condemn ANYONE without knowing the facts.
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| Posted 11/29/06 7:11 AM |
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2PreciousBlessings
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by MrsKelly
Posted by Redhead
Posted by MrsKelly
maybe i SHOULD watch what i say... it just truly irks me that everything thinks they know everything, when in fact, they haven't a clue. so quick to judge. but again, if you weren't there and you don't know firsthand, don't be so quick to judge based on what the media throws out there... it's not an informed judgement. i'm done.
excuse me....but most of us are reading the newpaper and watching what we see on tv ...
Not for nothing opinions can be formed on that...not everyone has to go seek out every little detail.
ASIDE from the fact that WE WEREN'T THERE...
WE MIGHT NEVER know the real truth..
Newspapers nor cops are never 100% truth in the forthcomming of FACTS..
So i will say i won't really believe any of what is said by etiher side now.
But in bare min info...people CAN AND DO form opinions..and there is nothing wrong with that..
CONVERSATIONS and talking to others can bring more light into the subject..
IT HAPPENS EVERY FLUCKING DAY since nobody knows everything
So unless YOU were there that night or anyone was THERE that night...
then we ALL don't have a clue...we are going on what the media is telling us
i just think it's unfair to condemn ANYONE without knowing the facts.
I agree with you!!!! Some people have been condemning the victim while others are condemning the cops. So having said that everyone including you and I are passing judgement IMO without knowing the facts. We are all guilty of it.
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| Posted 11/29/06 7:16 AM |
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Shanti
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
I skimmed through the thread and this one and find a lot of it really offensive. I didn't want to add fuel to the fire but a lot of posts had me really going 
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| Posted 11/29/06 7:24 AM |
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Eva Luna
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by BellaPaige
Posted by MrsKelly
i just think it's unfair to condemn ANYONE without knowing the facts.
I agree with you!!!! Some people have been condemning the victim while others are condemning the cops. So having said that everyone including you and I are passing judgement IMO without knowing the facts. We are all guilty of it.
This I agree with too.
I said it on my first post on this topic...we need more details.
Probably won't get them, but it's never OK to judge. And I've been guilty of that too. 
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azoodie
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
it's too early for this
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| Posted 11/29/06 7:35 AM |
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by Moosey911
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by emilain
Posted by MrsKelly
so what's your take on the shell casings that were found at the scene and WEREN'T discharged out of the officers weapons?
oh wait, the media didn't expose that, did they?
ok, so how do you know that?
ETA- oh, I just read you are an officer, careful what "inside" Knowledge you share on this public forum, don't get yourself in trouble, you never know who is reading
I thought you weren't sure if it was inside knowledge or not- maybe she just heard it on the news? I don't even know if it is "inside" or if it is now public knowledge. And I don't think she has anything to worry about- she just stated something that she had heard- and she is not giving out personal information. I don't think there was any reason to state that she should be careful, JMO.
The shell casings inside the car aren't public knowledge yet....and yes, she should be careful what she writes (which is why I have only argued the media "facts")....I know all of the true facts first hand....but will not discuss them here until everything has cooled down in the media.
I'm really not going into how I feel about this whole thing (there is just too much no one knows for sure and the whole thing is so sad for everyone), but I just wanted to say that somewhere - I HONESTLY don't know which media outlet - but somewhere I heard about the casings in the car before MrsKelly said anything - so it must have gotten out to the press b/c I don't personally know anyone in law enforcement.
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| Posted 11/29/06 9:02 AM |
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Moehick
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by oneday
Posted by Moosey911
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by emilain
Posted by MrsKelly
so what's your take on the shell casings that were found at the scene and WEREN'T discharged out of the officers weapons?
oh wait, the media didn't expose that, did they?
ok, so how do you know that?
ETA- oh, I just read you are an officer, careful what "inside" Knowledge you share on this public forum, don't get yourself in trouble, you never know who is reading
I thought you weren't sure if it was inside knowledge or not- maybe she just heard it on the news? I don't even know if it is "inside" or if it is now public knowledge. And I don't think she has anything to worry about- she just stated something that she had heard- and she is not giving out personal information. I don't think there was any reason to state that she should be careful, JMO.
The shell casings inside the car aren't public knowledge yet....and yes, she should be careful what she writes (which is why I have only argued the media "facts")....I know all of the true facts first hand....but will not discuss them here until everything has cooled down in the media.
I'm really not going into how I feel about this whole thing (there is just too much no one knows for sure and the whole thing is so sad for everyone), but I just wanted to say that somewhere - I HONESTLY don't know which media outlet - but somewhere I heard about the casings in the car before MrsKelly said anything - so it must have gotten out to the press b/c I don't personally know anyone in law enforcement.
I did as well on Fox 5 last night
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| Posted 11/29/06 9:07 AM |
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nixy
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Re: It's funny how "hot topics" bring out the worst in people...
Posted by Moosey911
Posted by nixy
it's much easier to say these things on an anonymous chat board. I don't think it would have gone on as long if people were face to face.
I would go on and on if I met some of the liberals on this forum face to face....but, that's just me. I love a good debate (especially when I'm right ) Believe me, I come from an EXTREMELY liberal family....I was supposed to be a doctor...so, I got my paramedic and my RN first...but decided not to go that route. Imagine my family's surprise when I became a cop in the South Bronx!!! It makes for some good converasation during holiday dinners. So, yes....I could talk about this all day! (and still win... )
For some reason, I don't think you would have a problem having this argument face to face!!
I made a generalization.....After the 18 million posts on the topic, I should have known better!!!
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