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Blazesyth
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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by Leb

Posted by maymama

Posted by Ayne11

Why would the pilots take the time to wipe their home computers clean, turn off all transponder boxes, etc on the plane just to crash it in the ocean? Not one terrorist group has claimed responsibility (yet) and wouldn't they by now if indeed the plane was on some sort of suicide mission?

I call huge bull shit on this, and I still think that plane is sitting in a hanger in Pakistan being made over for their own use.



they are starting to firmly believe it was a major electrical issue (depressurization, smoke, fire, loss of power) which caused all the issues - leaning away from terror.



Say this was true and it was fire, why was the plane off route far from china? Makes no sense.



They may have changed direction to try to find someplace closer to land in order to resolve the issues and/or get people off of the plane.

Posted 3/25/14 8:52 AM
 
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maymama
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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by LiveItUp

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It makes no sense. After 2 weeks, the are now confirming the plane crashed.......but with no evidence. So they can tell the plane crashed how?????? No, something is definately not right. Those poor families, what they are going through.




Exactly. How is it that they have a way of tracking the flight path using the pings, but they finally just used it now? If they can do that, why didnt they do it in the first place?



this was the first time they have ever used this method to track a plane! brand new method out of the UK. they used the wavelength of the ping to calculate location. it has never been done before

Posted 3/25/14 9:11 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by Blazesyth

Posted by Leb

Posted by maymama

Posted by Ayne11

Why would the pilots take the time to wipe their home computers clean, turn off all transponder boxes, etc on the plane just to crash it in the ocean? Not one terrorist group has claimed responsibility (yet) and wouldn't they by now if indeed the plane was on some sort of suicide mission?

I call huge bull shit on this, and I still think that plane is sitting in a hanger in Pakistan being made over for their own use.



they are starting to firmly believe it was a major electrical issue (depressurization, smoke, fire, loss of power) which caused all the issues - leaning away from terror.



Say this was true and it was fire, why was the plane off route far from china? Makes no sense.



They may have changed direction to try to find someplace closer to land in order to resolve the issues and/or get people off of the plane.



exactly. if there was an issue with pressure in the cabin, they would fly at a very low altitude for best O2 levels for the passengers. A rapid climb and then decent in altitude could account for them trying to suffocate flames (changes in 02). They could have changed direction in order to find the absolute closest landing area to get the plane and passengers to safety.

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Posted 3/25/14 9:12 AM
 

maymama
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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

everyone should read this! THIS sounds most likely at this point!

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

Posted 3/25/14 9:15 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

The Malaysian govt has done an unbelievably poor job handling all of this. It's a disgrace really. First they spend days looking in the wrong place, then they say they are convinced of foul play, but NOW they are certain it crashed in the Indian and NO foul play. But still no wreckage confirmed. What a nightmare for these families. Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 3/25/14 9:24 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

I think we need to remember this is an insanely challenging search! 3 million sq. miles of some of the roughest waters in the world! these are uncharted waters! This plane could be anywhere in an area 3/4 the size of the US and its 2 hours flight from land making its tough for helicopters to to extensive searches from air.

I agree that the Malaysian govt has not handled this properly from day 1 but this is NOT an easy search! They may never find wreckage Chat Icon

Message edited 3/25/2014 9:29:14 AM.

Posted 3/25/14 9:29 AM
 

afternoondelight828
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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

China has demanded to see proof as they don't seem to believe them either.

Posted 3/25/14 10:27 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by Blazesyth

Posted by Leb

Posted by maymama

Posted by Ayne11

Why would the pilots take the time to wipe their home computers clean, turn off all transponder boxes, etc on the plane just to crash it in the ocean? Not one terrorist group has claimed responsibility (yet) and wouldn't they by now if indeed the plane was on some sort of suicide mission?

I call huge bull shit on this, and I still think that plane is sitting in a hanger in Pakistan being made over for their own use.



they are starting to firmly believe it was a major electrical issue (depressurization, smoke, fire, loss of power) which caused all the issues - leaning away from terror.



Say this was true and it was fire, why was the plane off route far from china? Makes no sense.



They may have changed direction to try to find someplace closer to land in order to resolve the issues and/or get people off of the plane.



But changed direction and gone to a super remote location with no land nearby? No way. I don't believe it for a minute.

Posted 3/25/14 10:30 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by Leb

Posted by Blazesyth

Posted by Leb

Posted by maymama

Posted by Ayne11

Why would the pilots take the time to wipe their home computers clean, turn off all transponder boxes, etc on the plane just to crash it in the ocean? Not one terrorist group has claimed responsibility (yet) and wouldn't they by now if indeed the plane was on some sort of suicide mission?

I call huge bull shit on this, and I still think that plane is sitting in a hanger in Pakistan being made over for their own use.



they are starting to firmly believe it was a major electrical issue (depressurization, smoke, fire, loss of power) which caused all the issues - leaning away from terror.



Say this was true and it was fire, why was the plane off route far from china? Makes no sense.



They may have changed direction to try to find someplace closer to land in order to resolve the issues and/or get people off of the plane.



But changed direction and gone to a super remote location with no land nearby? No way. I don't believe it for a minute.



Agreed.

eta: What about all the other stuff that was reported over the last 2 weeks? Are they saying now that it was all incorrect? I remember them reporting that the 2 separate locating systems (the transponder and I forget the other one) were shut off at different times. Which was why they were leaning towards the fact that this was done on purpose and that it wasn't some kind of electrical problem/failure. And now, that's it. It's in the bottom of the ocean. The End? Call me crazy but something just doesn't add up here.

Message edited 3/25/2014 10:40:33 AM.

Posted 3/25/14 10:35 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by MrsA714

Posted by Leb

Posted by Blazesyth

Posted by Leb

Posted by maymama

Posted by Ayne11

Why would the pilots take the time to wipe their home computers clean, turn off all transponder boxes, etc on the plane just to crash it in the ocean? Not one terrorist group has claimed responsibility (yet) and wouldn't they by now if indeed the plane was on some sort of suicide mission?

I call huge bull shit on this, and I still think that plane is sitting in a hanger in Pakistan being made over for their own use.



they are starting to firmly believe it was a major electrical issue (depressurization, smoke, fire, loss of power) which caused all the issues - leaning away from terror.



Say this was true and it was fire, why was the plane off route far from china? Makes no sense.



They may have changed direction to try to find someplace closer to land in order to resolve the issues and/or get people off of the plane.



But changed direction and gone to a super remote location with no land nearby? No way. I don't believe it for a minute.



Agreed.

eta: What about all the other stuff that was reported over the last 2 weeks? Are they saying now that it was all incorrect? I remember them reporting that the 2 separate locating systems (the transponder and I forget the other one) were shut off at different times. Which was why they were leaning towards the fact that this was done on purpose and that it wasn't some kind of electrical problem/failure. And now, that's it. It's in the bottom of the ocean. The End? Call me crazy but something just doesn't add up here.



I think they gave out a lot of information too quickly. Maybe some was accurate, maybe some was speculation and the media ran with it (in real time) whatever the case, this was and still is being very poorly handled. Something is just not adding up at all and it smells like a huge cover up to me.

Posted 3/25/14 11:17 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by MrsA714

And now, that's it. It's in the bottom of the ocean. The End? Call me crazy but something just doesn't add up here.



Not crazy at all. I still think that plane is undamaged and hidden somewhere.

Posted 3/25/14 11:18 AM
 

FTM427
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missing malaysia airplane....

Also didnt they say that huge turn the plane made was programmed into the plane 10 minutes before the pilots said the "all right good night" to air traffic control? None of it makes sense.

Posted 3/25/14 12:08 PM
 

LIRascal
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missing malaysia airplane....

We have to remember that just because "stuff" is reported, it doesn't mean that it's fact.

We have 4 proven facts so far:
The plane took off from Malaysia
The plane made contact at 1:07 to confirm altitude and at 1:19 "alright, goodnight."
The plane never arrived in Beijing
This can't be good.

So to confirm to the families that "all are lost" is wrong. It's an assumption. Their statement was insensitive and sent the message to "Go away now we need our hotel back" Chat Icon

Message edited 3/25/2014 12:27:28 PM.

Posted 3/25/14 12:26 PM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by MrsProfessor

Posted by MrsA714

And now, that's it. It's in the bottom of the ocean. The End? Call me crazy but something just doesn't add up here.



Not crazy at all. I still think that plane is undamaged and hidden somewhere.




I am CONVINCED of this. I also think that some time in the near future they may "find" wreckage - but it won't actually be from that plane, but rather to appeal to the world.
I am always intrigued by conspiracy theories, but never actually BELIEVED one. I do now.
Maybe the situation has already been contained and handled in whatever country or island, but something else happened to that plane. I really think that. Or maybe even it was shot down somewhere. I know I sound crazy, but I don't buy it is in the indian ocean (on its own).

Posted 3/25/14 12:43 PM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by LadyPrincess

Posted by JoesWife628

Posted by Ayne11

Why would the pilots take the time to wipe their home computers clean, turn off all transponder boxes, etc on the plane just to crash it in the ocean? Not one terrorist group has claimed responsibility (yet) and wouldn't they by now if indeed the plane was on some sort of suicide mission?

I call huge bull shit on this, and I still think that plane is sitting in a hanger in Pakistan being made over for their own use.


Agreed



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but what did they do with the people ?



Or was already intercepted and now there has to be a cover up.

Posted 3/25/14 12:44 PM
 

afternoondelight828
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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by LIRascal

We have to remember that just because "stuff" is reported, it doesn't mean that it's fact.

We have 4 proven facts so far:
The plane took off from Malaysia
The plane made contact at 1:07 to confirm altitude and at 1:19 "alright, goodnight."
The plane never arrived in Beijing
This can't be good.

So to confirm to the families that "all are lost" is wrong. It's an assumption. Their statement was insensitive and sent the message to "Go away now we need our hotel back" Chat Icon



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Posted 3/25/14 1:22 PM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by LIRascal

We have to remember that just because "stuff" is reported, it doesn't mean that it's fact.

We have 4 proven facts so far:
The plane took off from Malaysia
The plane made contact at 1:07 to confirm altitude and at 1:19 "alright, goodnight."
The plane never arrived in Beijing
This can't be good.

So to confirm to the families that "all are lost" is wrong. It's an assumption. Their statement was insensitive and sent the message to "Go away now we need our hotel back" Chat Icon

. This. x1000.

Posted 3/25/14 1:37 PM
 

LIRascal
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missing malaysia airplane....

Yep, someone knows something, someone dropped the ball, but we'll never know.
I think that everyone's theory is valid. It is all based on expert theory and opinions. I just wish those families could know for sure.

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Posted 3/25/14 4:30 PM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

My theory: I think something sudden happened so the pilots turned to the nearest airport. Whatever happened was sudden and incapacitated everyone(depressurization) so the plane continued on route in the direction the pilots turned it before they died. Eventually the plane ran out of gas and crashed into the ocean.

Whatever this Doppler effect radar thing is they just discovered may have been a brand new technology and may have taken extra days to sort out. I get that. When they were sure about what the info meant, it showed the plane going in a direction that would have been 4 hours from land in every direction. With only a certain amount of gas in the plane it is totally realistic IMO to say it crashed in the ocean beyond reasonable doubt.

As much as I'd like to chase Zebras and hope these people are alive, I don't think its the case.

Posted 3/25/14 4:57 PM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by LastLightGlow

My theory: I think something sudden happened so the pilots turned to the nearest airport. Whatever happened was sudden and incapacitated everyone(depressurization) so the plane continued on route in the direction the pilots turned it before they died. Eventually the plane ran out of gas and crashed into the ocean.

Whatever this Doppler effect radar thing is they just discovered may have been a brand new technology and may have taken extra days to sort out. I get that. When they were sure about what the info meant, it showed the plane going in a direction that would have been 4 hours from land in every direction. With only a certain amount of gas in the plane it is totally realistic IMO to say it crashed in the ocean beyond reasonable doubt.

As much as I'd like to chase Zebras and hope these people are alive, I don't think its the case.



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Posted 3/25/14 4:59 PM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

I still think it was shot down, because they knew the pilots turned it around and was taking it over.

Posted 3/25/14 5:17 PM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by LastLightGlow

My theory: I think something sudden happened so the pilots turned to the nearest airport. Whatever happened was sudden and incapacitated everyone(depressurization) so the plane continued on route in the direction the pilots turned it before they died. Eventually the plane ran out of gas and crashed into the ocean.

Whatever this Doppler effect radar thing is they just discovered may have been a brand new technology and may have taken extra days to sort out. I get that. When they were sure about what the info meant, it showed the plane going in a direction that would have been 4 hours from land in every direction. With only a certain amount of gas in the plane it is totally realistic IMO to say it crashed in the ocean beyond reasonable doubt.

As much as I'd like to chase Zebras and hope these people are alive, I don't think its the case.



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I think they were all dead before the crash. Basically like the Helios 522 flight.

Basically based off the doppler they did math to figure out where it was and it agrees how the doppler was used on other nearby planes. If the plane tracked north, other satellites and air traffic would of saw it but since there isn't much over the ocean (southern track), it "vanished"

Posted 3/25/14 5:34 PM
 

afternoondelight828
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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Now France says they see 122 things in the ocean?
Until they find these things (that were seen on the satellite on Sunday but nothing was found), I can't believe it.

Posted 3/26/14 10:05 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by LastLightGlow

My theory: I think something sudden happened so the pilots turned to the nearest airport. Whatever happened was sudden and incapacitated everyone(depressurization) so the plane continued on route in the direction the pilots turned it before they died. Eventually the plane ran out of gas and crashed into the ocean.

Whatever this Doppler effect radar thing is they just discovered may have been a brand new technology and may have taken extra days to sort out. I get that. When they were sure about what the info meant, it showed the plane going in a direction that would have been 4 hours from land in every direction. With only a certain amount of gas in the plane it is totally realistic IMO to say it crashed in the ocean beyond reasonable doubt.

As much as I'd like to chase Zebras and hope these people are alive, I don't think its the case.



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Posted 3/26/14 10:45 AM
 

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Re: missing malaysia airplane....

Posted by My2Girlz11

I still think it was shot down, because they knew the pilots turned it around and was taking it over.


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Posted 3/26/14 4:59 PM
 
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