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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Personally I feel that is horrible and you shouldn't have to beg for formula to feed your child. I tried to BF my children and due to supply issues and failure to thrive I was not able to. By the time I had my 3rd child in the hospital when she was screaming uncontrollably after nursing for over 2 hours I asked for a bottle, and that was what she needed. While there are studies out there showing that breat milk has benefits, there are also benefits to giving your child formula when needed or by choice and no one should be questioing you on your choice.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
what happened to rights? the parent should make the decision. not the hospital or the government on how you choose to feed your child. bottom line.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by jgl
Posted by Grill
I do however agree that formula should NOT ever be offered at hospitals unless a mother/baby can not nurse for a medical reason.
So i should be forced to BF even if it makes me incredibly uncomfortable to have a human being sucking my on nipples?
Your statement really pisssed me off!
Oh give me a break... You do realize you are taking away a woman's right to choose when you make a comment like this?
People like you who know just go on and on about how great BFing is and that everyone SHOULD do it is one of the many reasons why I chose to NOT to do it.
You (pushy BFing advocates) are all so annoying with your preaching of benefits and guilt trip to people who are not comfortable with the idea.
I might have been more open to it once my DS was born, but I was constantly being asked if I was going to BF him and was preached so many times in the hospital about it being THE best choice, that making the decision to not was a very easy one.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
PLEASE STOP
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I plan on bottle feeding. I swear to god, if I got a talking to at a hospital I would go F-ing postal.
Make your own choice and don't let the government, Bloomberg, your mom, a message board or anyone shame you into doing something you don't want.
So so angry about this.
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Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I think its every mother's right to choose. However I do feel that people need to be informed. I EBF my two kids. One was a preemie and to this day I bless La Leche for not letting me give up on trying to BF our DD and put her at risk. Moms assume that formula is just as good as breast but ITS NOT for some babies. So a part of me can understand why Bloomberg may be pushing for the change. It should be a mother's choice overall but it should be an informed choice.
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NervousNell
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by BriBri2u
Posted by jgl
Posted by Grill
I do however agree that formula should NOT ever be offered at hospitals unless a mother/baby can not nurse for a medical reason.
So i should be forced to BF even if it makes me incredibly uncomfortable to have a human being sucking my on nipples?
Your statement really pisssed me off!
Oh give me a break... You do realize you are taking away a woman's right to choose when you make a comment like this?
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Yup! A comment like that is not far from- well next we should only be allowed abortions when MEDICALLY necessary.
And it can go on from there.
It's called A woman's right to chose.
Ever hear of it?
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by BriBri2u
Posted by jgl
Posted by Grill
I do however agree that formula should NOT ever be offered at hospitals unless a mother/baby can not nurse for a medical reason.
So i should be forced to BF even if it makes me incredibly uncomfortable to have a human being sucking my on nipples?
Your statement really pisssed me off!
Oh give me a break... You do realize you are taking away a woman's right to choose when you make a comment like this?
People like you who know just go on and on about how great BFing is and that everyone SHOULD do it is one of the many reasons why I chose to NOT to do it.
You (pushy BFing advocates) are all so annoying with your preaching of benefits and guilt trip to people who are not comfortable with the idea.
I might have been more open to it once my DS was born, but I was constantly being asked if I was going to BF him and was preached so many times in the hospital about it being THE best choice, that making the decision to not was a very easy one.
don't even waste your time with this....it's the same thing every time this subject comes up. And always the same person with the same thoughts and judgement lined bag of tricks.
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beachgirl
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I think Bloomberg is out of line and going about it the wrong way. He should be encouraging women to BF, getting the doctors involved to bring it up during routine visits throughout the pregnancy and having them explain the benefits etc...maybe even getting la leche involved during pregnancy if someone wants more information....but locking formula away like its a prescribed drug is taking it too far. I think it may have the opposite effect and turn people off BF as no one likes to be told what to do and it just gives more bad press to the pro Bf groups.
Bloomberg would be better served to take a trip to europe and see how well moms are treated over there after they give birth - that might be a better angle for him to go after - give the moms some PAID leave for gods sake and maybe some moms will choose to BF as they will not be stressing about going back to work so soon after giving birth.
Lets face it some moms cannot BF due to supply issues and some moms just don't want to BF. BF is very time consuming and its all on you the mom especially in the early days when you are sometimes BF around the clock...
I EBF both kids for a long time and if I was to be blessed with another child I would EBF that child but that is my choice and my decision and I would never tell another mom that she should BF, never have and never will. I have friends who told me I was nuts for BF my kids for so long but that was their hang up...so I just laughed it off. My body and my child. The End.
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justbeachy
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
As a soon to be mom - giving birth in October in NYC to my first, NOTHING has given me more anxiety than this.
I cannot believe how condescending and pushy my friends, colleagues, random people, and inlaws have been on this topic.I feel like a complete failure of a parent before I have given birth because I have voiced that I want to bottle feed. I'm disgusted that other women would make me feel that way. I have read everything and become "educated" on BF...and now I've made my decision to bottle feed.
Now my HOSPITAL is going to make me feel that way?!
I have serious anxiety about this. Anyone have suggestions for how I can successfully navigate this one? I'm already petrified of becoming a mom for the first time. I feel like I'm going to cry at the hospital if they try to 'educate' me.
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I skipped reading the who was a better mom & the FF vs BF debate because, well I've read it before.
I don't see the initiative as being a bad thing. However, I consider his methods as missing the point. If you want to encourage bf'ing, that should happen during pre-natal care (which is SEVERELY lacking in the poorer areas of the city). Just because *we* are better educated on it, read up on it, etc doesn't mean formula isn't being pushed on new moms.
But this:
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1. New York Codes Rules and Regulations (NYCRR) Title 10 – part 405.21, stipulates the following:
a. Restriction of the newborn's supplemental feedings to those indicated by the medical condition of the newborn or of the mother;
b. Provision for the newborn to be fed on demand; and
c. Provision for distribution of discharge packs of infant formula only upon a specific order by the attending practitioner or at the request of the motheror at the request of the mother
New York State Breastfeeding Mothers Bill of Rights (BMBR) - Public Health Law, Article 25, Title 1, § 2505-a (2009) - Breastfeeding Mothers’ Bill of Rights (BMBR) stipulates that mothers have the right to:
a. Have the baby not receive any bottle feeding or pacifiers.
b. Have someone trained to help with breastfeeding, provide information and assist when needed.
c. Know about and refuse any drugs that may dry up milk.
d. Have the baby in the room with her 24 hours a day.
e. Breastfeed the baby at any time day or night.
f. Know if the doctor or the baby’s pediatrician is advising against breastfeeding before any feeding decisions are made.
g. Have a sign on the baby’s crib clearly stating that the baby is breastfeeding and that no bottle feeding of any type is to be offered.
a. Unless specifically requested, and available at the facility, to be discharged from the facility without discharge packs containing infant formula, or formula coupons, unless ordered by the baby’s health care provider.
3. New York State Model Hospital Breastfeeding Policy states that the hospital:
a. Must restrict supplemental feedings to those indicated by the medical condition of the newborn or mother. (NYCCR)
b. Maternity staff must inform mothers if their doctor or infant’s pediatrician is advising against breastfeeding before any feeding decisions are made. (BMBR)
c. Must allow mothers to have their baby not receive any bottle feeding and to have a sign on their baby’s crib clearly stating that their baby is breastfeeding and that no bottle feeding of any type is to be offered. (BMBR)
d. Must not provide mothers with discharge packs containing infant formula or formula coupons unless these items are available at the hospital and are ordered by their baby’s health care provideror specifically requested by the mother. . (BMBR)
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doesn't seem all that bad to me as long as it doesn't turn into a shaming the ff feeding mom. When I gave birth I breastfed & had to supplement because of my son's medical condition. I walked out of the hospital with 2 free cases of very expensive formula & was grateful for it. This initiative seems to be about making a choice & requesting the formula vs having it shoved down your throat (which I've seen firsthand in hospitals, nurses supplementing newborns without the moms permission, pushing formula, etc.)
I also think if you're going to encourage women to breastfeed, then you need to be prepared on focusing on improving their nutrition & be prepared to give some additional $ for those WIC lactating moms - not just paying for their pumps. You also should be prepared to give supplemental maternity leave.
My younger cousin in another states is on WIC & opted to breastfeed so WIC paid for her pump. Now she can't breastfeed because her hourly job doesn't allow her to take a break to pump. She's going to try to get her doctor to write a note so she can get formula but in the meantime, she's taking any free sample she can get (switching back & forth between formulas which isn't great for the baby's belly, which causes gas issues, which means the baby is up more during the night, the mom is getting less sleep & producing even less breast milk).
Frankly, the pharmaceutical industry & the formula companies have too strong of a foothold in hospitals & doctor's offices. Focus on the incentives, bonuses, boondoggle trips doctor get for pushing medication. Rather than start with formula, start with Lipitor.
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ali120206
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Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I had both DS in NJ and it seems that they are already doing this to an extent. It was adapted sometime between DS 1 and DS 2. I FF both boys. I didn't feel like any feeding method was pushed on me at either time and I was allowed to make the choice that best suited my needs. They had Similac formula on site and if I wanted anything else, they would special order it for me.
The changes I saw is that they didn't whisk away DS 2 so quickly after birth, they encouraged rooming in more, and your parting gift is geared towards BFing moms - no more freebie Similac bags.
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NervousNell
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by justbeachy
I have serious anxiety about this. Anyone have suggestions for how I can successfully navigate this one? I'm already petrified of becoming a mom for the first time. I feel like I'm going to cry at the hospital if they try to 'educate' me.
Do NOT have anxiety about this!
Please don't.
It is your body. It is your baby.
It is your choice.
You tell them you are formula feeding and that's it.
If they try to tell you otherwise you say, no thank you I am formula feeding.
If they refuse to give you formula, have DH bring some up to you.
Own your decision. Be tough.
Be rude and nasty if you have to be.
But please don't stress of this- you will have enough to worry about. It's a joyous time- don't let anyone ruin that for you.
Stand up for yourself! 
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headoverheels
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I am almost positive that if you asked Grill her honest opinion, she'd tell you that if you didn't want to BF you shouldn't have become a mother 
Unreal THAT kind of mothering - THAT kind of attitude - makes me feel bad for her kids.
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SpiceGirl
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
For everyone in favor of Bloomberg making these decisions for you and your baby...be careful. It's a slippery slope.
The next decision he may decide to make on your behalf may not be one you're too happy with, but once you start handing over control...it may be difficult to get it back.
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Ophelia
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I heard this on the radio this morning and laughed all the way into work imagining the LIF shitstorm.
I was not disappointed. 
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| Posted 7/30/12 10:47 AM |
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Ophelia
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by SpiceGirl
For everyone in favor of Bloomberg making these decisions for you and your baby...be careful. It's a slippery slope.
The next decision he may decide to make on your behalf may not be one you're too happy with, but once you start handing over control...it may be difficult to get it back.
what "decision" is he making for anyone?
he is maybe using a "used car salesman" approach to a particular product, but I am pretty sure he is not making a "decision" for anyone.
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| Posted 7/30/12 10:48 AM |
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Ophelia
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by nrthshgrl
I skipped reading the who was a better mom & the FF vs BF debate because, well I've read it before.
I don't see the initiative as being a bad thing. However, I consider his methods as missing the point. If you want to encourage bf'ing, that should happen during pre-natal care (which is SEVERELY lacking in the poorer areas of the city). Just because *we* are better educated on it, read up on it, etc doesn't mean formula isn't being pushed on new moms.
But this:
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1. New York Codes Rules and Regulations (NYCRR) Title 10 – part 405.21, stipulates the following:
a. Restriction of the newborn's supplemental feedings to those indicated by the medical condition of the newborn or of the mother;
b. Provision for the newborn to be fed on demand; and
c. Provision for distribution of discharge packs of infant formula only upon a specific order by the attending practitioner or at the request of the motheror at the request of the mother
New York State Breastfeeding Mothers Bill of Rights (BMBR) - Public Health Law, Article 25, Title 1, § 2505-a (2009) - Breastfeeding Mothers’ Bill of Rights (BMBR) stipulates that mothers have the right to:
a. Have the baby not receive any bottle feeding or pacifiers.
b. Have someone trained to help with breastfeeding, provide information and assist when needed.
c. Know about and refuse any drugs that may dry up milk.
d. Have the baby in the room with her 24 hours a day.
e. Breastfeed the baby at any time day or night.
f. Know if the doctor or the baby’s pediatrician is advising against breastfeeding before any feeding decisions are made.
g. Have a sign on the baby’s crib clearly stating that the baby is breastfeeding and that no bottle feeding of any type is to be offered.
a. Unless specifically requested, and available at the facility, to be discharged from the facility without discharge packs containing infant formula, or formula coupons, unless ordered by the baby’s health care provider.
3. New York State Model Hospital Breastfeeding Policy states that the hospital:
a. Must restrict supplemental feedings to those indicated by the medical condition of the newborn or mother. (NYCCR)
b. Maternity staff must inform mothers if their doctor or infant’s pediatrician is advising against breastfeeding before any feeding decisions are made. (BMBR)
c. Must allow mothers to have their baby not receive any bottle feeding and to have a sign on their baby’s crib clearly stating that their baby is breastfeeding and that no bottle feeding of any type is to be offered. (BMBR)
d. Must not provide mothers with discharge packs containing infant formula or formula coupons unless these items are available at the hospital and are ordered by their baby’s health care provideror specifically requested by the mother. . (BMBR)
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doesn't seem all that bad to me as long as it doesn't turn into a shaming the ff feeding mom. When I gave birth I breastfed & had to supplement because of my son's medical condition. I walked out of the hospital with 2 free cases of very expensive formula & was grateful for it. This initiative seems to be about making a choice & requesting the formula vs having it shoved down your throat (which I've seen firsthand in hospitals, nurses supplementing newborns without the moms permission, pushing formula, etc.)
I also think if you're going to encourage women to breastfeed, then you need to be prepared on focusing on improving their nutrition & be prepared to give some additional $ for those WIC lactating moms - not just paying for their pumps. You also should be prepared to give supplemental maternity leave.
My younger cousin in another states is on WIC & opted to breastfeed so WIC paid for her pump. Now she can't breastfeed because her hourly job doesn't allow her to take a break to pump. She's going to try to get her doctor to write a note so she can get formula but in the meantime, she's taking any free sample she can get (switching back & forth between formulas which isn't great for the baby's belly, which causes gas issues, which means the baby is up more during the night, the mom is getting less sleep & producing even less breast milk).
Frankly, the pharmaceutical industry & the formula companies have too strong of a foothold in hospitals & doctor's offices. Focus on the incentives, bonuses, boondoggle trips doctor get for pushing medication. Rather than start with formula, start with Lipitor.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Grill
I am flabbergasted at the list of CONS that was posted. I don't know why I'm responding to them because they honestly don't even make a dent in a risk/benefit analysis of BFing vs. Formula. In fact, most of them are not even valid CONS in any medical/health/financial sense. But...I am feeling compelled to provide a response to each in hopes of helping new moms who may be on the brink of making their decisions.
Increases your risk for breast infection or mastitis.-- Very rare occurrence, mostly due to poor latch or pumping. Very easily treated and certainly not a reason to not BF.
Higher levels of jaundice are found in babies who are breastfed- AND the solution for "BFing jaundice", which is a different etiology from other causes of jaundice is to nurse more. So again, not a reason not to BF.
Baby may get dehydrated easier- ?? Source ??
Risk of cavities in infants who are breastfed for over a year – Please note, however, that the risk of cavities is still higher for formula-fed babies. ?? Source ?? With the proper latch, the milk never touches the teeth. The only concern is when the milk pools in the mouth, which can occur when baby falls asleep at the breast.
Risk of rickets (vitamin-D deficiency) – especially in darker skinned babies. This is not a CON of BFing. If the mother has acceptable vitamin D levels it's likely her milk will too. In our latitude most women are deficient and therefore their milk is. Women can take supplements or give their young supplements directly.
Not necessarily convenient – Although promotion for breastfeeding has made leaps and bounds over the years, there are few places in public that cater to the breastfeeding mother. Many mothers can end up feeling very frustrated over this severe oversight. ---Just silly. Feed your baby, wherever you are. Don't suffocate him under a blanket while he eats either. It's hard and takes courage, but you will feel liberated and your child will learn a valuable lesson about individuality and standing up for what you believe in.
Must always be available for feeding or provide pumped breast milk if absent – After a long pregnancy and grueling delivery, a new mother needs her rest to recover. Newborns must eat every two to three hours for the first weeks of life. The constant caring for her newborn can leave an already tired mother feeling even more fatigued. ---Yes, it's called MOTHERING.
First weeks of breastfeeding may be very painful ---Again, MOTHERING.
Certain medications can interrupt breastfeeding--Not a CON of BFing, but a possible event if a mother needs to go on meds...but still not related to BFing.
Your diet can have an effect on the baby---Yup...again, MOTHERING.
I really love how you have an opinion on everything and everyone but you neglected to say anything about the first "con" which was that the dad loses out on his bonding time.
Was that because you had no argument to "prove" why she was wrong or in your know-it-all opinon does the dad not really play a role in "mothering"?
My mom FF all her children and we are all pretty awesome. I would be willing to bet that she could teach you a thing or two about "mothering".
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MrsKR88
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I never get involved with this stuff, but I felt the need to respond to this post. Honestly, no one is taking away anyone's right to choose. It seems like the media is really hyping this up and twisting things around to make it into another "times" article on breastfeeding. I think the article uses a poor choice of words by saying that women will get a "talking" to each time they ask for formula. For one, I can't see them doing this every time and secondly, it is not like you are going to be scolded. All that is being done is giving a person the opportunity to make an informed decision. Some people might not know the many benefits of breastfeeding, or might be intimidated by it, etc. If breastfeeding isn't for you then that is completely fine. You have every right to tell the hospital staff that and they will have to accept your decision. It just seems like this whole thing is being blown out of proportion.
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ThreeforTea
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Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Let's add this to the drama thread
Seriously, whether you BF or FF you did what you felt was right FOR YOU AND YOUR KID and that's all that matters. Who cares what anyone thinks!
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JennyPenny
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Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I am super uncomfortable with the idea of breastfeeding my babies. I have zero issue with other women doing it whatsoever, but it's just not or me. I had my second DD the end of March and they were very stingy with the mini formula bottles, where I had to ask for more because they left DD with me all day long and would only give me one or two bottles. I was often by myself in the hospital and had to go searching for a nurse the day after a c-section because I had non and no one was available at the touch of a call button. Meanwhile, my baby was screaming to eat and I was in pain, completely flustered and extremely emotional. I couldn't wait to get out of the hospital.
I have no problem being 'educated' on BFing, but to go through that was just cruel.
ETA: When you are first admitted, you're asked if you plan to BF. If you say 'yes' or 'I'm not sure', then they should offer guidance and support for it. If you say 'no', they should make sure you're making an educated decision, maybe give a pamphlet citing the benefits, re-ask and then leave it at that. I don't think BFing OR FFing should be pushed down someone's throat.
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justbeachy
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by justbeachy
I have serious anxiety about this. Anyone have suggestions for how I can successfully navigate this one? I'm already petrified of becoming a mom for the first time. I feel like I'm going to cry at the hospital if they try to 'educate' me.
Do NOT have anxiety about this!
Please don't.
It is your body. It is your baby.
It is your choice.
You tell them you are formula feeding and that's it.
If they try to tell you otherwise you say, no thank you I am formula feeding.
If they refuse to give you formula, have DH bring some up to you.
Own your decision. Be tough.
Be rude and nasty if you have to be.
But please don't stress of this- you will have enough to worry about. It's a joyous time- don't let anyone ruin that for you.
Stand up for yourself!
Thank you! I need to work on having a thick skin!
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Grill
I do however agree that formula should NOT ever be offered at hospitals unless a mother/baby can not nurse for a medical reason.
I disagree. The hospital is supposed to provide food for its patients - which include infants whether it is breastmilk or formula. If a mother chooses to breastfeed or not is their decision UNLESS it is medically necessary for the baby to be on formula, then the decision lies with the pediatrician.
I'm not saying the hospital should have to give free formula to its moms when they walk out. But they need to ensure their patients are well-nourished.
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Paramount
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by kf615
Posted by Grill
Your diet can have an effect on the baby---Yup...again, MOTHERING.
I really love how you have an opinion on everything and everyone but you neglected to say anything about the first "con" which was that the dad loses out on his bonding time.
Was that because you had no argument to "prove" why she was wrong or in your know-it-all opinon does the dad not really play a role in "mothering"?
My mom FF all her children and we are all pretty awesome. I would be willing to bet that she could teach you a thing or two about "mothering".
I cant fill in Grill's whole post because she actually doesn't get the actual argument.
This aint about who is a better mother. SHE wants it to be.
Its about Bloomberg trying to TELL us what WE should do.
Breastfeed? Go for it?
Bottle? Go for it.
What I don't understand, truly, is how one mother can say "You don't do this, so you are not mothering". That's just crazy talk. Why cant she say sunmmin like "I Breastfeed because I feel its better., you do what YOU think is right".
I agree with Opehlia. I feel bad for Gill and her kids.
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