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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by BriBri2u
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People like you who know just go on and on about how great BFing is and that everyone SHOULD do it is one of the many reasons why I chose to NOT to do it.
You (pushy BFing advocates) are all so annoying with your preaching of benefits and guilt trip to people who are not comfortable with the idea.
I might have been more open to it once my DS was born, but I was constantly being asked if I was going to BF him and was preached so many times in the hospital about it being THE best choice, that making the decision to not was a very easy one.
Seriously...you decided not to breastfeed in part to "show" them who was boss? I understand the point you are trying to make, but to me this is one the most ridiculous statements I have read.
Can you READ???...I said ONE - ONE of the many reasons....try again...
Yes I can read, thank you very much. I was asking an honest question and even went as far as to say I understood the point you were making. The attitude you are hurling at me right now is not needed. I am not attacking you, I thought the statement you made was ridiculous because you then followed it up with basically saying because you were " preached so many times in the hospital about it being THE best choice, that making the decision to not was a very easy one". It was the reason why.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Mags1227
From the initiative website: Mothers who decide to formula feed and cannot afford formula will be referred to WIC (Women, Infants and Children), a food and nutrition program for low-income families.
so what happens to a mother who can't afford formula but has no milk supply? she leaves the hospital with nothing but WIC paperwork to fill out. she then has to wait to be approved (let's hope she is) before she's able to get formula for her baby. how long do you think that will take in the great bureaucracy that is NYC?
I don't understand? So we should give all mothers 1, 2, 3 months of formula in case their milk runs out while they wait for WIC? There has to also be some initiative on the MOTHER'S end too in this case. If i'm pg and I am not going to bf and I can't afford formula then I should be figuring something out well before I leave the hospital. It's not the nurses job to do that. I also believe that it is a part of the prenatal care...at least it is where I go.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by Mags1227
From the initiative website: Mothers who decide to formula feed and cannot afford formula will be referred to WIC (Women, Infants and Children), a food and nutrition program for low-income families.
so what happens to a mother who can't afford formula but has no milk supply? she leaves the hospital with nothing but WIC paperwork to fill out. she then has to wait to be approved (let's hope she is) before she's able to get formula for her baby. how long do you think that will take in the great bureaucracy that is NYC?
I don't understand? So we should give all mothers 1, 2, 3 months of formula in case their milk runs out while they wait for WIC? There has to also be some initiative on the MOTHER'S end too in this case. If i'm pg and I am not going to bf and I can't afford formula then I should be figuring something out well before I leave the hospital. It's not the nurses job to do that. I also believe that it is a part of the prenatal care...at least it is where I go.
sometimes those moms plan to BF and it doesn't work out so they are unprepared.
just saying let's not take away all options just to save money. there are other ways!
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Mags1227
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by Mags1227
From the initiative website: Mothers who decide to formula feed and cannot afford formula will be referred to WIC (Women, Infants and Children), a food and nutrition program for low-income families.
so what happens to a mother who can't afford formula but has no milk supply? she leaves the hospital with nothing but WIC paperwork to fill out. she then has to wait to be approved (let's hope she is) before she's able to get formula for her baby. how long do you think that will take in the great bureaucracy that is NYC?
I don't understand? So we should give all mothers 1, 2, 3 months of formula in case their milk runs out while they wait for WIC? There has to also be some initiative on the MOTHER'S end too in this case. If i'm pg and I am not going to bf and I can't afford formula then I should be figuring something out well before I leave the hospital. It's not the nurses job to do that. I also believe that it is a part of the prenatal care...at least it is where I go.
sometimes those moms plan to BF and it doesn't work out so they are unprepared.
just saying let's not take away all options just to save money. there are other ways!
I do understand what you're saying but then the answer is send all mothers home with how many months of formula? It just doesn't make sense. Pregnant women need to do the work as well. It's not up to everybody else to figure out how to feed your child...it's up to you. WIC also can be used for pregnant mothers as well so if they know about the program they can be on it during pregnancy also.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by BriBri2u
Posted by PeasandCarrots
People like you who know just go on and on about how great BFing is and that everyone SHOULD do it is one of the many reasons why I chose to NOT to do it.
You (pushy BFing advocates) are all so annoying with your preaching of benefits and guilt trip to people who are not comfortable with the idea.
I might have been more open to it once my DS was born, but I was constantly being asked if I was going to BF him and was preached so many times in the hospital about it being THE best choice, that making the decision to not was a very easy one.
Seriously...you decided not to breastfeed in part to "show" them who was boss? I understand the point you are trying to make, but to me this is one the most ridiculous statements I have read.
Can you READ???...I said ONE - ONE of the many reasons....try again...
Yes I can read, thank you very much. I was asking an honest question and even went as far as to say I understood the point you were making. The attitude you are hurling at me right now is not needed. I am not attacking you, I thought the statement you made was ridiculous because you then followed it up with basically saying because you were " preached so many times in the hospital about it being THE best choice, that making the decision to not was a very easy one". It was the reason why.
It wasn't THE only reason why, but them shoving BFing in my fave sealed the deal.
There is nothing ridiculous about the reasons why I chose to not to it...to each their own. I know people who didn't do it based only the reason that they didn't want a baby sucking on their boobs - it doesn't make their choice ridiculous.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Grill
I am flabbergasted at the list of CONS that was posted. I don't know why I'm responding to them because they honestly don't even make a dent in a risk/benefit analysis of BFing vs. Formula. In fact, most of them are not even valid CONS in any medical/health/financial sense. But...I am feeling compelled to provide a response to each in hopes of helping new moms who may be on the brink of making their decisions.
Increases your risk for breast infection or mastitis.-- Very rare occurrence, mostly due to poor latch or pumping. Very easily treated and certainly not a reason to not BF.
Higher levels of jaundice are found in babies who are breastfed- AND the solution for "BFing jaundice", which is a different etiology from other causes of jaundice is to nurse more. So again, not a reason not to BF.
Baby may get dehydrated easier- ?? Source ??
Risk of cavities in infants who are breastfed for over a year – Please note, however, that the risk of cavities is still higher for formula-fed babies. ?? Source ?? With the proper latch, the milk never touches the teeth. The only concern is when the milk pools in the mouth, which can occur when baby falls asleep at the breast.
Risk of rickets (vitamin-D deficiency) – especially in darker skinned babies. This is not a CON of BFing. If the mother has acceptable vitamin D levels it's likely her milk will too. In our latitude most women are deficient and therefore their milk is. Women can take supplements or give their young supplements directly.
Not necessarily convenient – Although promotion for breastfeeding has made leaps and bounds over the years, there are few places in public that cater to the breastfeeding mother. Many mothers can end up feeling very frustrated over this severe oversight. ---Just silly. Feed your baby, wherever you are. Don't suffocate him under a blanket while he eats either. It's hard and takes courage, but you will feel liberated and your child will learn a valuable lesson about individuality and standing up for what you believe in.
Must always be available for feeding or provide pumped breast milk if absent – After a long pregnancy and grueling delivery, a new mother needs her rest to recover. Newborns must eat every two to three hours for the first weeks of life. The constant caring for her newborn can leave an already tired mother feeling even more fatigued. ---Yes, it's called MOTHERING.
First weeks of breastfeeding may be very painful ---Again, MOTHERING.
Certain medications can interrupt breastfeeding--Not a CON of BFing, but a possible event if a mother needs to go on meds...but still not related to BFing.
Your diet can have an effect on the baby---Yup...again, MOTHERING.
THANK YOU! I thought that list of "cons" was ridiculous. Like you said - that is part of being a mother!
I'm in the minority but I am all for it. No one is telling you that you can't FF, just educating you on the benefits of BF. I wish my hospital was more pro-BF - I wanted to EBF more than anything and the nurses were no help and basically forced formula on me. It took 3 lactation consultants and 6 weeks to undo the damage they did in the hospital when DD was having latch issues. I only wish we had someone there to advocate for breast. Why do you think it was ok that I received lectures about FF DD but it is not ok to try to educate woman on BF????
Like others have said, public health is a government issue, so why do they not have a right to initiate a program that is good for the city (in terms of health and cost)?
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Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
While on this subject briefly it baffles me how many programs there are for pregnant mothers out there you never hear about! There are a lot of them and I wish more people knew about them. I also wish people explained programs like WIC better and explained all the options to people. It's sad that there is help out there that many people never know about until to late.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by BriBri2u
It wasn't THE only reason why, but them shoving BFing in my fave sealed the deal.
There is nothing ridiculous about the reasons why I chose to not to it...to each their own. I know people who didn't do it based only the reason that they didn't want a baby sucking on their boobs - it doesn't make their choice ridiculous.
I just don't understand I guess. Can I ask a serious question.....when you say shoving it in your face what are you talking about? How did they do that? I am NOT being snarky I am genuinely curious and would like to know.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by BriBri2u
It wasn't THE only reason why, but them shoving BFing in my fave sealed the deal.
There is nothing ridiculous about the reasons why I chose to not to it...to each their own. I know people who didn't do it based only the reason that they didn't want a baby sucking on their boobs - it doesn't make their choice ridiculous.
I just don't understand I guess. Can I ask a serious question.....when you say shoving it in your face what are you talking about? How did they do that? I am NOT being snarky I am genuinely curious and would like to know.
No matter how many times I said I was NOT BFing - every nurse that was working each shift was asking me "Are we going to try to BF? It is the BEST thing you can do for your child...blah blah blah"
The first 5 times I could deal with it - after 15 times of being asked about BFing and why I should at least try it, and why I would have a much closer bond with my child if I did choose this route. I was asked which BFing class I wanted to attend and that I should just take it in case I changed my mind...I had enough.
I finally had to tell one of the nurses to write it down somewhere so all the nurses could see that I was FFing and to not ask about BFing or trying it.
Again, its not for you to understand my reasons.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by BriBri2u
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by BriBri2u
It wasn't THE only reason why, but them shoving BFing in my fave sealed the deal.
There is nothing ridiculous about the reasons why I chose to not to it...to each their own. I know people who didn't do it based only the reason that they didn't want a baby sucking on their boobs - it doesn't make their choice ridiculous.
I just don't understand I guess. Can I ask a serious question.....when you say shoving it in your face what are you talking about? How did they do that? I am NOT being snarky I am genuinely curious and would like to know.
No matter how many times I said I was NOT BFing - every nurse that was working each shift was asking me "Are we going to try to BF? It is the BEST thing you can do for your child...blah blah blah"
The first 5 times I could deal with it - after 15 times of being asked about BFing and why I should at least try it, and why I would have a much closer bond with my child if I did choose this route. I was asked which BFing class I wanted to attend and that I should just take it in case I changed my mind...I had enough.
I finally had to tell one of the nurses to write it down somewhere so all the nurses could see that I was FFing and to not ask about BFing or trying it.
Again, its not for you to understand my reasons.
I get it's not for me to understand your reason, geez can you back off just a tad!
I was asking because i am very pro breastfeeding, but the last thing I would want to do is make someone so uncomfortable that they decided not to because in part of me and or what I was saying.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by jambalady
Posted by PeasandCarrots
"What do we tell our staff to do when mothers (families) request infant formula?
While breastfeeding is healthier for both mothers and babies, staff must respect a mother’s
infant feeding choice. Educating mothers and families about breastfeeding and providing
encouragement and support, both prenatally and after birth, is the best way to ensure
breastfeeding success in your hospital.
While in the hospital your staff can:
• Assess if breastfeeding is going well and encourage the mother to keep trying.
• Provide education and support to mothers who are experiencing difficulties.
• If the mother still insists on receiving formula, document it in the chart along with the
reason and distribute only the amount of formula needed for the feeding.
• Train staff in breastfeeding support (CLC, IBCLC) who can be available to assist new
mothers at all times regardless of day, night or weekends. "
Lactch on NYC Q&A
This is the actual page and it never says they will be talked to at every feeding, just that only what is needed will be given in terms of formula. What's wrong with that?
Taken straight from your link:
Should hospital providers document supplemental feeding in the medical chart?
Yes, it is recommended that all feedings – breast milk and supplemental feedings – should be documented by nursing and physician staff. When a breastfed infant is given formula, [b]both nurses and physicians should document the medical indication for supplementation,[b] including the content, volume and method used.
It is the responsibility of the health professional to provide information, document parental decisions, and support the mother after she has made this decision.4 When the decision to supplement is not medically indicated, efforts to educate the mother should be documented as well by the nursing and/or medical staff. (Academy of Breastfeeding Medicine Protocol #3)
I don't know about you, but when I was in the hospital I recorded everything myself. There was no need to ASK a nurse to record anything for me.
So, now, every time I want to feed my baby, a NURSE has to be called, formula requested, and recorded. It seems like there will not be a supply for me to feed on demand. I am being regulated how and how much I can feed my baby if I choose to use formula.
And it will be noted in my chart that I refused and "efforts were made to educate me?" like a mark on your permanent record?
It's just too much.
you are reading this the wrong way.
this is specifically trying to prevent BREASTFED babies from being supplemented with formula in the nursery, which happens A LOT and as a bf'ing mother it can also be VERY stressful.
the documenting is to that they can accurately chart how often they feed and most likely correlate that to weight gain and to see if it's "medically necessary" to feed a nursing child formula, which usually means they are losing too much weight or some other health issue.
this whole thing is just really really twisted.
any news source is going to add lots of adjectives and descriptions to their rreporting for exactly this reasons...how many hits do each of these links generate for their sponsors and stuff? lol
we don't need to do this. we are WOMEN. we are MOTHERS for christs sake. we need to respect each other.
and actually, if I remember correctly the nurses asked me every time i had him with me if I nursed. it had to be documented. so I don't think this is anything all that special or odd.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
I swear I feel like threads like this is why we can NEVER win.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
As a mother who wanted to BF, I had the opposite reaction in the hospital.
I had made clear communications about BFing BEFORE I even gave birth. Told the nurses in L&D. Told the nurses after DS was born and while being stitched up. And guess what... they looked at me like I had 5 heads when I INSISTED on BFing my son while in recovery. They kept asking if I was up to it. Yes, I was shaking as most women do when they get a c-section. I kept saying, no formula, no water, no pacifier. I made them write it down in RED MARKER on his bassinet.
LUCKILY DS latched right on. Because I delivered on a Friday and did not get a LC nurse until SUNDAY. AND the "Training" in the nursery until that Monday.
I had a quick training the day after DS was born by one of the nurse. Mind you I was given DS every 3 hours that previous night and on my own to "figure it out".
So if Bloomberg REALLY want this BFing to be successful.... hospitals really are going to have to step it up too.
But like I said, once that kid is out of us.... I find the system to FAIL US as women. Whether as BFing or FFing mothers.
The kid is born.... here it is... enjoy and GOOD LUCK!!
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Ophelia
I swear I feel like threads like this is why we can NEVER win.
I agree with you on this..if we fight each other, we can't fight for what we think is right
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Ophelia
I swear I feel like threads like this is why we can NEVER win.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by dlj97
Why do you think it was ok that I received lectures about FF DD but it is not ok to try to educate woman on BF????
Honestly, I don't think anybody said that at all. I think most people agree that either way is wrong and women should be able to just decide for themselves without a lecture in favor of FF OR BF.
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Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
wow, I can't believe how many people had negitive experiences in the hospitals (FF or BF). My nurses were great both times. I was asked one time when I cam in which I was doing and they also asked again what I wanted to do overnight. I bf but let them give them bottles overnight. And I was never made to feel pressured or anything else. Ugh, what a horrible feeling after just giving birth! I think if they really want to put more education on breastfeeding it should be before the baby is born and not right after a women goes thru 30 hours of labor and/or major surgery!
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
or maybe he will only let stores sell 1 oz bottles to limit their intake since we may be over feeding our kids.
He is ridiculous.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Tammy503
I haven't posted on this board in years and may regret jumping into this topic but just wanted to point out that this is not a Bloomberg initiative. That Post article is purposedly misleading and inflammatory. It is a part of the Baby Friendly Initiative of the World Health Organization and UNICEF to promote breastfeeding worldwide. It's been in existence over 20 years but not promoted here in New York. It is not a law or regulation. Its a means to make sure that patients are educated about breastfeeding and given the proper support to be successful. Patients are not lectured if they choose formula and certainly do not get a talk on the benefits of breastmilk every time they request formula. They do have to ask for it. It will not be automatically given because it has been proven in multiple studies that having formula readily available increases the likelihood that women who planned to breastfeed will not do so. I don't want to argue about the benefits of breastfeeding. The benefits are well established and noted by every relevant major medical organization. Breastfeeding may not be possible, feasible or desirable for many women but the science is what it is.
For what its worth I am a physician who works at a NYC hospital that is going through this process right now.
Thanks for this info Dr. Tammy!
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by Aries14
wow, I can't believe how many people had negitive experiences in the hospitals (FF or BF). My nurses were great both times. I was asked one time when I cam in which I was doing and they also asked again what I wanted to do overnight. I bf but let them give them bottles overnight. And I was never made to feel pressured or anything else. Ugh, what a horrible feeling after just giving birth! I think if they really want to put more education on breastfeeding it should be before the baby is born and not right after a women goes thru 30 hours of labor and/or major surgery!
I too was surprised how many people had a hard time. I gave birth in Winthrop both times. First time, I really wanted to BF, they really spent tons of time with me helping to make it happen. Second time, I didn't even want to try BFing. I only had to state it maybe twice during my whole 4 day stay there. No pressure either way.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Well, first, if you actually look up this initiative, it really is not Bloomberg's doing at all. It is the NYC health dept. Second, it is a voluntary program. Third, it is meant to educate breastfeeding mothers. It has been shown that when many breastfeeding mothers leave the hospital with the formula "gift packs" they feel like they are getting those because their supply is not good enough. These steps will be taken only for mothers who say they wish to breastfeed, not those who say they want to formula feed. When I had my twins, formula was pushed on me, they basically made me feel like my breastmilk wasn't enough. I didn't know any better and supplemented even though I really didn't want to - because they made me feel like I would be starving my baby if I didn't. When I had my third I was a lot more educated about BFing and refused formula, although it was at a different hospital and they were MUCH more supportive.
I am actually for this initiative which is to SUPPORT breastfeeding moms, not to lecture or demean formula feeding moms. It is still the mother's choice how she wants to feed her baby, but breastfeeding moms will not have formula pushed on them. The will receive support for the decision they have made.
The source the OP found this is obviously biased. I would not really trust any media when it comes to a hot-button issue like this - they will always spin it in one way or another.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
Posted by dbleplay17
or maybe he will only let stores sell 1 oz bottles to limit their intake since we may be over feeding our kids.
He is ridiculous.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
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Posted by Tammy503
I haven't posted on this board in years and may regret jumping into this topic but just wanted to point out that this is not a Bloomberg initiative. That Post article is purposedly misleading and inflammatory. It is a part of the Baby Friendly Initiative of the World Health Organization and UNICEF to promote breastfeeding worldwide. It's been in existence over 20 years but not promoted here in New York. It is not a law or regulation. Its a means to make sure that patients are educated about breastfeeding and given the proper support to be successful. Patients are not lectured if they choose formula and certainly do not get a talk on the benefits of breastmilk every time they request formula. They do have to ask for it. It will not be automatically given because it has been proven in multiple studies that having formula readily available increases the likelihood that women who planned to breastfeed will not do so. I don't want to argue about the benefits of breastfeeding. The benefits are well established and noted by every relevant major medical organization. Breastfeeding may not be possible, feasible or desirable for many women but the science is what it is.
For what its worth I am a physician who works at a NYC hospital that is going through this process right now.
Thanks for this info Dr. Tammy!
having boobies readily available doesnt increase the likelihood of BF?
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
oh boobs. can't live with em, can't live without em.
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Re: Not sure if it's been posted already...did you hear about Bloomberg's latest initiative?
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Posted by Grill
I do however agree that formula should NOT ever be offered at hospitals unless a mother/baby can not nurse for a medical reason.
So i should be forced to BF even if it makes me incredibly uncomfortable to have a human being sucking my on nipples?
Your statement really pisssed me off!
Not only that...but Grill actually said in one of her posts that like Heroin, the govt must protect babies from "THEIR PARENTS" regarding using formula....
Grill even suggested using ANOTHER mother's milk. Now I know this went on back in the day....I understand and know about the wet nurse thing. But for me. IMO, for me...I think that's INSANITY to be so obsessed with breastfeeding that in THIS day and age someone who COULD use formula would choose another mother's milk. For me personally, I could and would never make that choice. I dont care if the BM or mom was tested for diseases or drugs. You just never know, why take that chance.
IN MY definition of mothering for MY CHILD, MY first and foremost duty is to protect my child. Using a stranger's milk for my child (as if there wasn't another substitute, which is FORMULA) is a chance I would find insane to take.
So take it all with a grain of salt, what she says.
eta - this is not in reference to parents who have sick children whom they believe BM will help. This is my opinion based on my own healthy child that formula was just fine for.
Message edited 7/30/2012 4:52:59 PM.
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