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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
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How about dogs in panties?
That's kind of scary...
They have more designs, if these aren't your style....  
I actually would love to see the whole collection. 
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
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How about dogs in panties?
That's kind of scary...
They have more designs, if these aren't your style....
I actually would love to see the whole collection.
Ask and ye shall receive: http://bowwowwear.blogspot.com/
Thank you! Nothing that I can see for my boys though.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
The way I see the difference b/w small dogs and big dogs is: Small dogs can be kept in your arms or a carrier/purse so they cannot touch anything other than their owner. That's the main difference to me. Sorry, I know it seems like doggie discrimination....poor big doggies.
But as I stated in my other post, I don't and wouldn't take my dog into stores or anyplace he doesn't belong. But I also don't have a problem if someone else does it.
I understand the concept of some people seeing it as unsanitary and I can sort of agree with this.
But the allergy aspect I don't personally agree with b/c some people are highly allergic to a lot of things. If you are that allergic you really must take into consideration when you travel outside your home that you may run into some things you may not be expecting.
I know someone who is highly allergic to peanuts (supposedly even the smell). So she has to bring her epi pen on a plane even, b/c she knows they may be handing out peanuts on the place and the person next to her may be eating peanuts. No joke.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
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I think people on LI have a different view since many of us have backyards & walk our dogs in the yard or around our residential blocks. When I am in the city you cannot walk 2 steps without someone walking their dog(s), so it is common to see many people walking their dogs & running errands with them.
And maybe this is the crux of the issue. It's true most LI'ers do have yards where they can let their dogs roam free so maybe it is almost a foreign concept for a lot of us.
I agree that in the city it is very common to see people walking their dogs on the street but to me that's a necessity - their dogs need to go out for exercise and to relieve themselves but is it necessary to bring em into a D'agastino?
Good morning! Glad you are still here
I think that b/c it is more commonplace in NYC & the boroughs, people are not as affected by it, KWIM? I know it does not change the law or the health code, but the reality is many people will go sidewalk shopping with their dogs...it happens every day. I'd honestly rather see someone bring their dog inside where it is safe & watched than be tied to a post or something where is can cause harm or get stolen or something.
I just think the bottom line is on LI it is not as common, so it strikes more of a chord with those who are opposed to it. I will say I got some very nasty looks on the LIRR last time I took Pyxie to the city, but once on the subway it was like she was not even there. I followed the rules & had her in a bag & such, and made sure not to travel during rush hour so that the people going to work would not be disturbed *if* she barked (which she did not, she slept the whole time).
I think it has to be a 2-way street, honestly. Like if it is allowed than those who oppose it really should respect that it is allowed, but I hate that when those of us who follow the rules are lumped in with people who have a blatant disregard for them.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by Jennie0898
I noticed that some of you who are in favor of bringing your dogs to stores seem to feel there is a "HUGE" difference between bringing your 4lb. "doggie" into the store vs. a 70 or 80lb dog.
What's the difference? A dog is a dog big or small.
So why is it ok for you to bring your dog into a store but not for my big dog?
DOGS DON'T BELONG IN STORES, PERIOD OF THERE SIZE!! Except for Petco where they welcome them, they don't belong. Leave the dog in the car for 5 minutes, leave them home, etc. As an owner of a 50+ lb dog, I really love dogs, but agree they don't belong in public places, period
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by Goobster
I know someone who is highly allergic to peanuts (supposedly even the smell). So she has to bring her epi pen on a plane even, b/c she knows they may be handing out peanuts on the place and the person next to her may be eating peanuts. No joke.
A friend of mine is a flight attendant. They have to remove all of the nuts and biscotti from the plane if someone identifies themselves with an allergy AND they will make an announcement to let the other passengers know that they cannot eat or use any products on board that might trigger the allergy, HOWEVER the airline also informs the flyer who is allergic that they MUST bring any medications with them onboard and instruct an attendant how to get to it if there is a reaction while in flight.
Just a side note
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Goobster
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by Jennie0898
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I think people on LI have a different view since many of us have backyards & walk our dogs in the yard or around our residential blocks. When I am in the city you cannot walk 2 steps without someone walking their dog(s), so it is common to see many people walking their dogs & running errands with them.
And maybe this is the crux of the issue. It's true most LI'ers do have yards where they can let their dogs roam free so maybe it is almost a foreign concept for a lot of us.
I agree that in the city it is very common to see people walking their dogs on the street but to me that's a necessity - their dogs need to go out for exercise and to relieve themselves but is it necessary to bring em into a D'agastino?
Good morning! Glad you are still here
I think that b/c it is more commonplace in NYC & the boroughs, people are not as affected by it, KWIM? I know it does not change the law or the health code, but the reality is many people will go sidewalk shopping with their dogs...it happens every day. I'd honestly rather see someone bring their dog inside where it is safe & watched than be tied to a post or something where is can cause harm or get stolen or something.
I just think the bottom line is on LI it is not as common, so it strikes more of a chord with those who are opposed to it. I will say I got some very nasty looks on the LIRR last time I took Pyxie to the city, but once on the subway it was like she was not even there. I followed the rules & had her in a bag & such, and made sure not to travel during rush hour so that the people going to work would not be disturbed *if* she barked (which she did not, she slept the whole time).
I think it has to be a 2-way street, honestly. Like if it is allowed than those who oppose it really should respect that it is allowed, but I hate that when those of us who follow the rules are lumped in with people who have a blatant disregard for them.
I totally agree with this post.
Dh and I went to a dashchund festival in NYC at Washington Square park a few years back. There were hundreds of them, and we saw many on the trains on our way there. I saw nothing wrong with it, as the owners don't have cars and use public transportation, so they have no other way to get their dogs there (or to the vet, etc).
I do agree, there is more of a tolerance for this in NYC.
And I do agree, that I would rather see someone take their pet into the store than leave him in a car, but that's just me. I understand that not everyone would feel this way.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by Goobster
I know someone who is highly allergic to peanuts (supposedly even the smell). So she has to bring her epi pen on a plane even, b/c she knows they may be handing out peanuts on the place and the person next to her may be eating peanuts. No joke.
A friend of mine is a flight attendant. They have to remove all of the nuts and biscotti from the plane if someone identifies themselves with an allergy AND they will make an announcement to let the other passengers know that they cannot eat or use any products on board that might trigger the allergy, HOWEVER the airline also informs the flyer who is allergic that they MUST bring any medications with them onboard and instruct an attendant how to get to it if there is a reaction while in flight.
Just a side note
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if a dog/cat was "rightfully" on board and someone on board had an allergy to a dog/cat?
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Small dogs are cooler than big dogs.
Carry on
It's amazing what fires people up on these boards! Who would ever think the dog debate would get so heated? 
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by Goobster
Posted by MsMBV
Posted by Goobster
I know someone who is highly allergic to peanuts (supposedly even the smell). So she has to bring her epi pen on a plane even, b/c she knows they may be handing out peanuts on the place and the person next to her may be eating peanuts. No joke.
A friend of mine is a flight attendant. They have to remove all of the nuts and biscotti from the plane if someone identifies themselves with an allergy AND they will make an announcement to let the other passengers know that they cannot eat or use any products on board that might trigger the allergy, HOWEVER the airline also informs the flyer who is allergic that they MUST bring any medications with them onboard and instruct an attendant how to get to it if there is a reaction while in flight.
Just a side note
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if a dog/cat was "rightfully" on board and someone on board had an allergy to a dog/cat?
I posted that earlier
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by MsMBV
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Posted by Goobster
I know someone who is highly allergic to peanuts (supposedly even the smell). So she has to bring her epi pen on a plane even, b/c she knows they may be handing out peanuts on the place and the person next to her may be eating peanuts. No joke.
A friend of mine is a flight attendant. They have to remove all of the nuts and biscotti from the plane if someone identifies themselves with an allergy AND they will make an announcement to let the other passengers know that they cannot eat or use any products on board that might trigger the allergy, HOWEVER the airline also informs the flyer who is allergic that they MUST bring any medications with them onboard and instruct an attendant how to get to it if there is a reaction while in flight.
Just a side note
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if a dog/cat was "rightfully" on board and someone on board had an allergy to a dog/cat?
I posted that earlier
I tried to find it. All I saw was that they need to be kept in the carrier, under the seat. But if all peanuts must be removed from a plane in hte case of a severe allergy, are there any rules regarding severe pet allergies and dogs/cats on planes? If you did post this, can you link me? I am very curious.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by Goobster
Posted by MsMBV
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Posted by MsMBV
Posted by Goobster
I know someone who is highly allergic to peanuts (supposedly even the smell). So she has to bring her epi pen on a plane even, b/c she knows they may be handing out peanuts on the place and the person next to her may be eating peanuts. No joke.
A friend of mine is a flight attendant. They have to remove all of the nuts and biscotti from the plane if someone identifies themselves with an allergy AND they will make an announcement to let the other passengers know that they cannot eat or use any products on board that might trigger the allergy, HOWEVER the airline also informs the flyer who is allergic that they MUST bring any medications with them onboard and instruct an attendant how to get to it if there is a reaction while in flight.
Just a side note
Hmm, I wonder what would happen if a dog/cat was "rightfully" on board and someone on board had an allergy to a dog/cat?
I posted that earlier
I tried to find it. All I saw was that they need to be kept in the carrier, under the seat. But if all peanuts must be removed from a plane in hte case of a severe allergy, are there any rules regarding severe pet allergies and dogs/cats on planes? If you did post this, can you link me? I am very curious.
In the case of a severe allergy(or even with just a complaint), the passenger with the allergy is reseated to a different part of the cabin. IF the passenger lets it known ahead of time with the airline, the airline will not allow people with pets to book on that particular flight.
Contrary to popular belief, the air in most planes is NOT recycled. Fresh air is continuouly pulled into the cabin.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by Goobster
I tried to find it. All I saw was that they need to be kept in the carrier, under the seat. But if all peanuts must be removed from a plane in hte case of a severe allergy, are there any rules regarding severe pet allergies and dogs/cats on planes? If you did post this, can you link me? I am very curious.
In that case the person with allergies has to identify themselves, just like your friend with the peanut allergy. In that case the person is alerted that there is a dog in the cabin and usually they will reschedule someone's flight if the person determines that their allergy is too severe to treat or pre-treat with meds, and is dangerous for them to be in the same plane.
But since it is allowed the person with the allergy has the burden of finding out if there is a danger on board.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by MsMBV
But since it is allowed the person with the allergy has the burden of finding out if there is a danger on board.
Some airlines do not allow pets to fly, so I would imagine if you have allergies that severe, you know this and choose to fly those airlines that do not allow it. All the airlines I fly have specific numbers per flight limits. Jetblue is 4 pets per flight. I think Continental is 3.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by MsMBV
In that case the person with allergies has to identify themselves, just like your friend with the peanut allergy. In that case the person is alerted that there is a dog in the cabin and usually they will reschedule someone's flight if the person determines that their allergy is too severe to treat or pre-treat with meds, and is dangerous for them to be in the same plane.
But since it is allowed the person with the allergy has the burden of finding out if there is a danger on board.
I have to speak about this one. I am allergic to cats. I had my first bad experience on a trip back from Myrtle Beach last year. The next row they had a women with a cat in a carrier. In my over 20 years of flying I have never had a problem but this time my eyes were itching and watery. It was very uncomfortable for me. Why should I have to be inconvienced and change my flight because she had a cat. Why shouldn't they make her change her flight if there is a person with allergies on the flight?
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Southwest does not allow pets- BUT by law service animals are absolutely allowed.
In cases of pet allergies on those flights, the person with the allergy was given the option of sitting somewhere else or rebooking.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
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In that case the person with allergies has to identify themselves, just like your friend with the peanut allergy. In that case the person is alerted that there is a dog in the cabin and usually they will reschedule someone's flight if the person determines that their allergy is too severe to treat or pre-treat with meds, and is dangerous for them to be in the same plane.
But since it is allowed the person with the allergy has the burden of finding out if there is a danger on board.
I have to speak about this one. I am allergic to cats. I had my first bad experience on a trip back from Myrtle Beach last year. The next row they had a women with a cat in a carrier. In my over 20 years of flying I have never had a problem but this time my eyes were itching and watery. It was very uncomfortable for me. Why should I have to be inconvienced and change my flight because she had a cat. Why shouldn't they make her change her flight if there is a person with allergies on the flight?
MsMBV you know you're my girl.
 I might reward you with a drunk story later
It is simple math price wise & seat/logistics-wise. If you are a single person then they will reschedule your flight, rather than the person who paid for their seat & the fee for the pet.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by seank80
Why shouldn't they make her change her flight if there is a person with allergies on the flight?
Sorry, I fly with my cat often (I am on the breed committee and go to many cat shows). Why do I have to change MY flight? You are the one with the problem. i am not trying to be inconsiderate, but I booked my flight and my cat's ticket that I pay $150 for on an airline well in advance that allows pet to fly. If you have allergies and it’s an issue you should inquire when you book if there are pets allowed and if so are there currently any booked.
If you don’t agree with an airline’s pet policy fly a different airline, just like you wouldn’t go into Petco knowing they allow cats in there if you suffer such severe allergies.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
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Posted by seank80
Why shouldn't they make her change her flight if there is a person with allergies on the flight?
Sorry, I fly with my cat often (I am on the breed committee and go to many cat shows). Why do I have to change MY flight? You are the one with the problem. i am not trying to be inconsiderate, but I booked my flight and my cat's ticket that I pay $150 for on an airline well in advance that allows pet to fly. If you have allergies and it’s an issue you should inquire when you book if there are pets allowed and if so are there currently any booked.
If you don’t agree with an airline’s pet policy fly a different airline, just like you wouldn’t go into Petco knowing they allow cats in there if you suffer such severe allergies.
I am doing exactly that this time when I go down to visit. I am sorry but I just don't agree with you on this. Petco is a different scenario. If I have a problem I can simply walk out the door and leave. I unfortunately can't do this on a flight that is thousands of feet in the sky. Also the air system I assume is a bit different with the recirculation in a small cabin. Like I had previously said I had never had a problem flying before until a cat was in the next row. My wife was with me and I guarantee that we paid more for her ticket than the person paid to get their cat on the flight. I now know that it is probably a good idea to ask the airline their policy before I book but with no reaction before it was impossible before my last flight. I had no idea that pets were allowed inside the cabin. Sorry that my "problem" would affect your traveling.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
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Posted by seank80
Why shouldn't they make her change her flight if there is a person with allergies on the flight?
Sorry, I fly with my cat often (I am on the breed committee and go to many cat shows). Why do I have to change MY flight? You are the one with the problem. i am not trying to be inconsiderate, but I booked my flight and my cat's ticket that I pay $150 for on an airline well in advance that allows pet to fly. If you have allergies and it’s an issue you should inquire when you book if there are pets allowed and if so are there currently any booked.
If you don’t agree with an airline’s pet policy fly a different airline, just like you wouldn’t go into Petco knowing they allow cats in there if you suffer such severe allergies.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
My aunt flew to Florida with her shih tzu and for some ridiculous reason she took him out of the carrier while the plane was in the air and the stewardess came over to her and was yelling at her to put the dog away or they would get the captain and contact the police who would arrest her when the plane landed! 
I was like why would you take him out of the carrier?? She was like I felt bad for him  Its a 3 hour flight, I know he has been in the car for trips longer than that, he will survive.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
sean, I am not so sure that your seat cost more than carrying-on a pet. From someone who has BTDT it can be the same or more expensive, depending on the airline & the time of booking. But it is neither here nor there. (When) Pets are allowed and unfortunatley for you that puts the burden on you to find out if you will need to make arrangements, whether they be meds or changing your seat/flight.
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by seank80
I now know that it is probably a good idea to ask the airline their policy before I book but with no reaction before it was impossible before my last flight. I had no idea that pets were allowed inside the cabin. Sorry that my "problem" would affect your traveling.
Exactly, now that you know, you can be better equipped. All I am trying to say is my cat IS ALLOWED on the plane and I followed the rules, so why should I have to be removed from the plane? I have places I need to be, and I should not have to change my flight because of your condition (sorry if problem was the wrong word to use). It's just like the example another posted had about perfume, I am allergic to it, but it's allowed so what am I gonna do, ya know? I take a Claritin, bring my inhaler and deal. Now that you know, just don't book with airlines that allow animals to fly. I am not bringing my cat somewhere he’s not allowed, he’s allowed and I paid in advance for him to be there.
My comment about the $150 was not to imply you didn't pay more, it was more an annoyance at the fact that I have to pay an extra $150 but he's treated as one of my carry-ons, so what exactly am I paying $150 for?? They don't serve him any peanuts or anything!
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Posted by MsMBV
sean, I am not so sure that your seat cost more than carrying-on a pet. From someone who has BTDT it can be the same or more expensive, depending on the airline & the time of booking. But it is neither here nor there. (When) Pets are allowed and unfortunatley for you that puts the burden on you to find out if you will need to make arrangements, whether they be meds or changing your seat/flight.
Lets play out a scenario. Person doesn't know they have a pet allergy. In mid air they have some type of attack due to a pet in the cabin, which causes the plane to have to do an emerygency landing. Who would be to blame in that case?
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Re: Spinoff to Dogs in Stores
Personally, I think it's the airline's fault.
Sean learned to ask the airline before he flies from now on.
But, a pet on a plane isn't something you see every day. If it's an airline policy to allow them - fine. But, they should do a better job in advertising that fact, so that people with allergies know what they're getting into.
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