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Preguntas
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Hmmm I don't know what I am.
I know I would never have an abortion. I knew that at 16 when I started having sex. For myself, personally, I was pro life.
I never think about this. So I guess that makes me pro choice. Because that's how it is now, and I don't feel with every fiber of my being that it needs to change.
I do think that referring to pro life as "making a choice FOR a woman" makes no sense. As little sense as the term "Pro Life".
It's not making a choice for a woman. It's taking the opportunity to chose away. That's different.
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by MarisaK
Posted by smdl
Posted by MarisaK
I have a question - for those who are Ok with a woman's right to choose ONLY in the case of Rape, Incest etc.........
Did it ever occur to anyone HOW LONG it would take for a woman to prove she was the victim of one of these crimes?
What would the law require of her?
HOW many women would become SO desperate to abort their pregnancies that they would consider ruining the life of an innocent man by claiming rape or incest?
Who draws the lines? Who makes the final decisions? By the time something like this played out in court the unwatned child could be 10 years old !! -
Just a thought ...........
Everybody's opinion is going to be different.
Mine: pro-choice
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- timeframe on how advanced in the pregnancy it can be done for a healthy child: after that, there are adoption option
- Consideration of mother's health and babies
- Some babies born have such disabilities that they will die and live in pain.
For all the example of pro-life, there are the examples of parents who have had to carry a child to term knowing the child would die and in pain once born. That is a torture for a parent! I hope you never have to talk to one of this parents. I met 2 of them. It would bring you to tears. They all wished they had known better and had a choice to terminate.
I understand everyone's opinion will be totally different.......but how did you answer my original question?
I don't think we should have a law against abortion then. That's my answer.
Hey... what is next? Do you make a law against men and vasectomy?
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MarisaK
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by smdl
Posted by MarisaK
Posted by smdl
Posted by MarisaK
I have a question - for those who are Ok with a woman's right to choose ONLY in the case of Rape, Incest etc.........
Did it ever occur to anyone HOW LONG it would take for a woman to prove she was the victim of one of these crimes?
What would the law require of her?
HOW many women would become SO desperate to abort their pregnancies that they would consider ruining the life of an innocent man by claiming rape or incest?
Who draws the lines? Who makes the final decisions? By the time something like this played out in court the unwatned child could be 10 years old !! -
Just a thought ...........
Everybody's opinion is going to be different.
Mine: pro-choice
BUT
- timeframe on how advanced in the pregnancy it can be done for a healthy child: after that, there are adoption option
- Consideration of mother's health and babies
- Some babies born have such disabilities that they will die and live in pain.
For all the example of pro-life, there are the examples of parents who have had to carry a child to term knowing the child would die and in pain once born. That is a torture for a parent! I hope you never have to talk to one of this parents. I met 2 of them. It would bring you to tears. They all wished they had known better and had a choice to terminate.
I understand everyone's opinion will be totally different.......but how did you answer my original question?
I don't think we should have a law against abortion then. That's my answer.
Hey... what is next? Do you make a law against men and vasectomy?
Sorry I missed that !!  
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Ophelia
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
WOW that's being a little ridiculous don't you think? Do you think i'm some kind of monster becasue I want to protect those children from the fate of an abortion? That I want these women to know that there are people to help them through this, that they are not alone? I don't just preach, I am out there helping. Giving these helpless women and their children a chance. We are doing what we can so that there is no reason why a women should feel she has to abort her child and go through that pain.
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at this point I think the ridiculous deserves the ridiculous.
you keep saying there are "no reasons" to have an abortion, but your own statistics show that these woman HAVE reasons that THEY believe in.
I think your efforts are great. continue doing what you are doing to help, b/c no one should feel alone out there.
BUT, STOP judging those that CHOOSE to do what THEY think is right. who disagree with the "solution" you offer...or dont find comfort or solace in them.
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PegaLega
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Absolutely a difference. I truly think that if someone feels its something that they need to do (abortion) then they should be able to make that choice for themselves-not my personal feelings on it making the choice for them.
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by shiv
WOW that's being a little ridiculous don't you think? Do you think i'm some kind of monster becasue I want to protect those children from the fate of an abortion? That I want these women to know that there are people to help them through this, that they are not alone? I don't just preach, I am out there helping. Giving these helpless women and their children a chance. We are doing what we can so that there is no reason why a women should feel she has to abort her child and go through that pain.
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at this point I think the ridiculous deserves the ridiculous.
you keep saying there are "no reasons" to have an abortion, but your own statistics show that these woman HAVE reasons that THEY believe in.
I think your efforts are great. continue doing what you are doing to help, b/c no one should feel alone out there.
BUT, STOP judging those that CHOOSE to do what THEY think is right. who disagree with the "solution" you offer...or dont find comfort or solace in them.
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by shiv
... We are doing what we can so that there is no reason why a women should feel she has to abort her child and go through that pain.
you keep saying there are "no reasons" to have an abortion, but your own statistics show that these woman HAVE reasons that THEY believe in.
I think your efforts are great. continue doing what you are doing to help, b/c no one should feel alone out there.
I agree...I commend you (Shiv) if you really are out there trying to support people that decide to continue with their pregnancy but with all due respect people do not suffer through an abortion for no reason...there is always a reason. You just might not agree with it.
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Well...would anyone actually identify herself as "pro-abortion"? I think there's the difference/answer.
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by seaside
Well...would anyone actually identify herself as "pro-abortion"? I think there's the difference/answer.
I can't say I would be shocked to hear that someone does identify themselves as "pro-abortion". Nothing in this world surpises me anymore. Heck, there ARE women in this world who see nothing wrong with using it as a method of birth control.
I would certainly consider those women to be "pro-abortion".
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Jennie-
Fair enough. That's a good point.
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Beth1210
I don't think anyone is Pro-Abortion
I personally would never have one- but I want the choice to be able to have one if I needed to have one
Exactly!!! Pro Choice is NOT Pro Abortion.
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KvsGrl
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
I am ABSOLUTELY Pro-Choice! Being pro-choice allows those who are against abortion to carry their pregnancy to term and allows those who find themselves in need of an abortion, irregardless of the reason, to terminate the pregnancy. Providing for legal abortions allows them to occur in safe, sterile environments. I will never understand why those who regard themselves as Pro-Life feel it is necessary to take away a LEGAL right from others.
I do not believe that Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion are the same AT ALL.
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shiv
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Ophelia
at this point I think the ridiculous deserves the ridiculous.
you keep saying there are "no reasons" to have an abortion, but your own statistics show that these woman HAVE reasons that THEY believe in.
I think your efforts are great. continue doing what you are doing to help, b/c no one should feel alone out there.
BUT, STOP judging those that CHOOSE to do what THEY think is right. who disagree with the "solution" you offer...or dont find comfort or solace in them.
I never said they don't have reasons, I say with the help of better sex eductaion, the community, and social change, there should be little reason to need to have an abortion. People just accept that its ok for these women to choose to have an abortion, whether its because they are a teenager or because they didn't want to be pregnant on vacation (extreme, but it happens and I know first hand). I will always think it's wrong because I believe that child deserves a chance to live.
Don't be upset with me becuase I voice my belief. what's the point of a one-sided debate? I'm obviously in the minority here, but I still think its important for me to speak up.
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
I never said they don't have reasons, I say with the help of better sex eductaion, the community, and social change, there should be little reason to need to have an abortion.
Are you serious?? I guess in a perfect world there is little reason for anyone to have an abortion but in the real world there are reasons and I don't mean rape or incest.
I'm talking about the 15 year old who is "talked into" having sex with her boyfriend b/c she thinks everyone else is doing it and can't deal with the peer pressure.
I'm talking about the couple practicing safe sex and the condom breaks.
There are situations that do come up with a pregnancy is not planned.
And not everyone wants to go full term just to give their child up for adoption. There are people in this world who couldn't live with knowing they have a child in this world.
Posted by shiv
People just accept that its ok for these women to choose to have an abortion, whether its because they are a teenager or because they didn't want to be pregnant on vacation (extreme, but it happens and I know first hand). I will always think it's wrong because I believe that child deserves a chance to live.
It's 100% A-OK for YOU to feel abortion is wrong. But don't take away EVERY woman's right to choose b/c YOU are MORALLY OPPOSED to it.
Being pro-choice just means you support the notion that women have the RIGHT to CHOOSE what they can do to THEIR bodies.
Posted by shiv
Don't be upset with me becuase I voice my belief. what's the point of a one-sided debate? I'm obviously in the minority here, but I still think its important for me to speak up.
And FTR, I'm not upset at your opinion, you can believe whatever you want; but I will disagree with it.
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ReiRei13
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Shelly
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Yes!!! 100% a difference.
I, at this point in my life, would never choose to have an abortion myself (when I was younger I may have thought differently).
BUT I don't think I have the right to decide what anyone else does with their bodies.
Therefore- I am pro-choice.
I could have written this exactly! Well said.
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ReiRei13
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
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ReiRei13
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
My question is, what do you with all the rest. Should they just be allowed to abort whenever they want to because you continually support and vote for pro-choice? Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
NO I don't think there should be any regulation! Quite frankly its none of our business what the reasons that one might choose to have an abortion!! Its her body, her life, her choice!!!!!!!!
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shiv
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Jennie0898
Are you serious?? I guess in a perfect world there is little reason for anyone to have an abortion but in the real world there are reasons and I don't mean rape or incest.
I'm talking about the 15 year old who is "talked into" having sex with her boyfriend b/c she thinks everyone else is doing it and can't deal with the peer pressure.
I'm talking about the couple practicing safe sex and the condom breaks.
There are situations that do come up with a pregnancy is not planned.
And not everyone wants to go full term just to give their child up for adoption. There are people in this world who couldn't live with knowing they have a child in this world.
Yes I'm very serious
better sex education
be responsible for your actions- if there's a possibility you can get prego and you can't handle it, you shouldn't be having sex.
I don't believe any of those resons should warrant an abortion because none of them consider the life of the child.
Posted by Jennie0898
It's 100% A-OK for YOU to feel abortion is wrong. But don't take away EVERY woman's right to choose b/c YOU are MORALLY OPPOSED to it.
Being pro-choice just means you support the notion that women have the RIGHT to CHOOSE what they can do to THEIR bodies.
Morals are one thing, I believe in the life of the unborn child and will continue to fight for that life. I would like for people to see that abortion is more than getting rid of a problem, it's ending a life.
Posted by Jennie0898
And FTR, I'm not upset at your opinion, you can believe whatever you want; but I will disagree with it.
wasn't talking to you
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by stephanief
ABSOLUTELY....I would personally not have an abortion but I respect and SUPPORT a woman's right to make that choice for herself....I do not think some people "get that" about pro-choicers
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LittleBlueBug
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Jennie0898
I think there is.
I personally could be against getting an abortion for MYSELF, however, that does not mean I would want to take away another woman's right to choose what's best for her.
What are your thoughts?
These are exactly my thoughts. I also believe if it's a matter of life or death the government should not have a voice in it all.
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smdl
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Posted by Ophelia
at this point I think the ridiculous deserves the ridiculous.
you keep saying there are "no reasons" to have an abortion, but your own statistics show that these woman HAVE reasons that THEY believe in.
I think your efforts are great. continue doing what you are doing to help, b/c no one should feel alone out there.
BUT, STOP judging those that CHOOSE to do what THEY think is right. who disagree with the "solution" you offer...or dont find comfort or solace in them.
I never said they don't have reasons, I say with the help of better sex eductaion, the community, and social change, there should be little reason to need to have an abortion. People just accept that its ok for these women to choose to have an abortion, whether its because they are a teenager or because they didn't want to be pregnant on vacation (extreme, but it happens and I know first hand). I will always think it's wrong because I believe that child deserves a chance to live.
Don't be upset with me becuase I voice my belief. what's the point of a one-sided debate? I'm obviously in the minority here, but I still think its important for me to speak up.
We are not just talking about unplanned pregnancy. There are other reasons for abortion than just teen pregnancy.
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Ophelia
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Don't be upset with me becuase I voice my belief. what's the point of a one-sided debate? I'm obviously in the minority here, but I still think its important for me to speak up.
I am not upset with you because of your beliefs.  you are more than entitled to them.
i also agree with you that education and other measures can be advocated to lessen the occurance or "need" for abortion procedures to take place.
but abortions will continue to take place regardless of the law and regardless of the outreach programs out there.
Banning abortions won't solve any problem, it will only add to them.
perhaps with continued education, abortions will reduce themselves that way, but as long as a woman makes her decision, I cannot condone a LAW by any (hu)MAN taking a RIGHT away.
I hope you understand and again, you are more than entitled to you beliefs. I don't think anything of you because of them.
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dandr10199
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv.
Don't be upset with me becuase I voice my belief. what's the point of a one-sided debate? I'm obviously in the minority here, but I still think its important for me to speak up.
You are NOT alone. 
I have learned form this board before NOT to voice my opinion about this issue b/c while everyone will say that WANT to hear your opinion, they really do not. I feel that they believe they want to hear it b/c it is the PC thing to do, but in reality they don't. They believe what they believe about abortion. You can't change it. I have learned the hard way, trust me.
I am pro-life. If I became preggo again, there is a 75% chance that I could get a blood clot in my heart and die or my heart could just stop. I AM the .0001% that people talk about "what if the life of the mother was at risk??" and I am still pro-life. I have a IUD and I chart...not 100%, but close enough that I will not get preggo.
It is b/c of abortions that for me & DH to adopt I have to pay 20K to a girl who can change her mind at ANY time within the first 6 months after the baby is born, I have to fly clear across that earth to a third world country and THEY would not even let me adopt b/c I have one bio child an a heart condition or I have to be a foster parent to a child who's parent can "show up" at any time to take them back. It is not easy to adopt if you have a medical condition and have one bio child. YOU all have NO IDEA what this is like to see teens or others get preggo w/o a problem and just "get rid of it" with out a second thought...WHEN YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN OR IT WILL KILL YOU.
So yeah, I am that "pro-lifer that preaches" b/c if more women understood what a GIFT adoption is, it is my hope more would do it.
UGH. I promised myself I would not "go here" and I did.  Forget it. What I have to say about this does not matter anyway. People are going to do whatever they please anyway.
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by dandr10199
I have learned form this board before NOT to voice my opinion about this issue b/c while everyone will say that WANT to hear your opinion, they really do not. I feel that they believe they want to hear it b/c it is the PC thing to do, but in reality they don't. They believe what they believe about abortion. You can't change it. I have learned the hard way, trust me.
THIS comment is UNCALLED FOR. No one on this thread has attacked ANYONE for their opinion. If you feel having your stance on abortion questioned and disagreed with is the same as being ATTACKED well, I'm sorry, but I WHOLE HEARTEDLY disagree. You most CERTAINLY can have your opinion, but I DON'T have to agree or like it. Further more, I have every right to voice MY opinion too.
To say that people don't want to hear her opinion even though we say we do, is completely DISRESPECTFUL and frankly I find it VERY offensive.
You have NO right to say that. Up until YOUR inflamitory post, I've remained VERY civil as has EVERYONE else BESIDES YOU.
This thread managed to be CIVIL all day, PLEASE keep it that way.
Posted by dandr10199
I am pro-life. If I became preggo again, there is a 75% chance that I could get a blood clot in my heart and die or my heart could just stop. I AM the .0001% that people talk about "what if the life of the mother was at risk??" and I am still pro-life. I have a IUD and I chart...not 100%, but close enough that I will not get preggo.
It's absolutely wonderful that you're pro-life and you should feel BLESSED that you have the RIGHT to make that CHOICE to be pro-life. But why shouldn't people have the SAME RIGHT to CHOSE to be pro-choice?
The government tried to step in with a "moral" law once before. It's called prohibition. That didn't work out well either. To me, this is a similar situation.
Posted by dandr10199
It is b/c of abortions that for me & DH to adopt I have to pay 20K to a girl who can change her mind at ANY time within the first 6 months after the baby is born, I have to fly clear across that earth to a third world country and THEY would not even let me adopt b/c I have one bio child an a heart condition or I have to be a foster parent to a child who's parent can "show up" at any time to take them back. It is not easy to adopt if you have a medical condition and have one bio child. YOU all have NO IDEA what this is like to see teens or others get preggo w/o a problem and just "get rid of it" with out a second thought...WHEN YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY MORE CHILDREN OR IT WILL KILL YOU.
First of all, what does having an abortion have to do with adoption laws?? Please elaborate.
Secondly, do you THINK for ONE SECOND that the TEENAGER you mentioned who has an abortion made that decision LIGHTLY??? Did you ever consider that that very teenager is a SCARED KID who doesn't know WHAT to do but knows her family will DISOWN her if they find out she's pregnant? Should she DISTROY her ENTIRE life?? I'm sorry, but I don't think so.
I understand it must be ENORMOUSLY frustrating to see young girls getting pregnant and here you are wanting to have ANOTHER child and cannot and WANT to adopt a child and cannot. But consider what the woman who has NO children (and wants one) feels like. Count your blessings that you HAVE at least one child.
Posted by dandr10199
So yeah, I am that "pro-lifer that preaches" b/c if more women understood what a GIFT adoption is, it is my hope more would do it.
Be whatever kind of pro-lifer you want to be, but as a WOMAN how can you think it's OK for the GOVERNMENT to tell US what we CAN and CANNOT do to our bodies?
It's completely FINE to be AGAINST abortion, but why be against giving WOMEN the RIGHT to CHOOSE?
Posted by dandr10199
UGH. I promised myself I would not "go here" and I did. Forget it. What I have to say about this does not matter anyway. People are going to do whatever they please anyway.
Please don't go there. There is no reason to have any kind of pity party for voicing your opinion. Just know that you are NOT going to convice everyone here to change their minds and agree with you.
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donegal419
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
i think that people saying they're not for abortion for themselves, but let other people have that choice is such a cop out....
it's like saying, i wouldnt' steal from someone, but it's okay if other people steal (or insert any crime in there).
it doesn't make sense.
By all of the people that are morally opposed to abortion but are pro-choice for others are really pro-abortion at the end of the day.
i could go on and on about the ills abortion causes, but that's a whole other topic... but essentially, i feel people that are anti-abortion for themselves, but for it for everyone else just excaserbate those issues.
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