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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Syliblond81106
What do you have against Howard Beach and Cops?
LOL-I don't hate them..but the not giving tickets out and quadruple parking has GOT TO GO!!!!!! This causes a lot of accidents..
i agree, you know why that is right?
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CowgirlChick97
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Why ??? I would love to know this...
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:23 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
well the biggest offenders are those that park on 159th avenue where gino's is. one of my friends owns a business on that block
basically, they have a deal with the cops
you don't ticket our patrons, we give you free stuff
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:25 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
well the biggest offenders are those that park on 159th avenue where gino's is. one of my friends owns a business on that block
basically, they have a deal with the cops
you don't ticket our patrons, we give you free stuff
tsk tsk .....
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:25 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
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you don't need to tell me -- i hate that
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:26 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
We're all working on what information we do have. And I think the racially motivated story adds up and makes complete sense. If you've lived in the neighborhood long enough, you realize that a racist attitude represents a LOT more than 10% of the population. Even the people they interviewed in the secondary articles were so ridiculously racist. This one guy interviewed was trying not to seem racist and he said something like "I'm not racist. If a black man moved onto my block I wouldn't move away, I'd just tell him I better not catch him stealing the motors out of the cars on the block." Um HELLO. And they interviewed kids on the news saying "Yeah it's always been this way, they should have known better." It's complete denial to say that Howard Beach is NOT hotbed of racism. That isn't to say that everyone there is racist, but it's a place where racism has been able to be cushioned in this little bubble of all white people. A lot of people in my neighborhood were racist. When people of different colors started moving in, they all moved away (to howard beach) or they got over it/learned to deal. If you can say it wasn't a ahte crime, you can also say there was no car theft and then black kids were visiting their grandma who is one of the eight black residents of Howard Beach. We're all working off of the same information here. NEVER did the white boys say they beat the kid up because he was stealing a car, it was always a terrotorial thing, which was the same motivation in the 1986 case.
And I think seeing Al Sharpton around the neighborhood will be hilarious. I wish I didn't have to work today. Bring on the media circus. I love it! The only problem is that i just don't think anything will get through people's thick heads. In 1986 HB residents took up a collection for the white gang members. I don't think that much has changed.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:30 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
well the biggest offenders are those that park on 159th avenue where gino's is. one of my friends owns a business on that block
basically, they have a deal with the cops
you don't ticket our patrons, we give you free stuff
Please, it's such BS. And to have any kind of business there you have to pay off the mob. My mom's friend's business what shut down because they didn't like her competing with their store. It's really insane.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:31 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
We're all working on what information we do have. And I think the racially motivated story adds up and makes complete sense. If you've lived in the neighborhood long enough, you realize that a racist attitude represents a LOT more than 10% of the population. Even the people they interviewed in the secondary articles were so ridiculously racist. This one guy interviewed was trying not to seem racist and he said something like "I'm not racist. If a black man moved onto my block I wouldn't move away, I'd just tell him I better not catch him stealing the motors out of the cars on the block." Um HELLO. And they interviewed kids on the news saying "Yeah it's always been this way, they should have known better." It's complete denial to say that Howard Beach is NOT hotbed of racism. That isn't to say that everyone there is racist, but it's a place where racism has been able to be cushioned in this little bubble of all white people. A lot of people in my neighborhood were racist. When people of different colors started moving in, they all moved away (to howard beach) or they got over it/learned to deal. If you can say it wasn't a ahte crime, you can also say there was no car theft and then black kids were visiting their grandma who is one of the eight black residents of Howard Beach. We're all working off of the same information here. NEVER did the white boys say they beat the kid up because he was stealing a car, it was always a terrotorial thing, which was the same motivation in the 1986 case.
And I think seeing Al Sharpton around the neighborhood will be hilarious. I wish I didn't have to work today. Bring on the media circus. I love it! The only problem is that i just don't think anything will get through people's thick heads. In 1986 HB residents took up a collection for the white gang members. I don't think that much has changed.
i have lived in howard beach for 25 years, trust me, prejudice is a small part of the town
don't believe everything you read/hear
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:32 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
MARY...the victims were NOT innocent by any means...whether it was racist or not. They were there to do harm! AND THAT is conveniently getting ignored...
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:32 AM |
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CowgirlChick97
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
That is the worst block ever...ANyone who goes down XBay BLVD knows there's someone always double/triple/qud parking!!!!!
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:32 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
well the biggest offenders are those that park on 159th avenue where gino's is. one of my friends owns a business on that block
basically, they have a deal with the cops
you don't ticket our patrons, we give you free stuff
Please, it's such BS. And to have any kind of business there you have to pay off the mob. My mom's friend's business what shut down because they didn't like her competing with their store. It's really insane.
welcome to the real world mary...
sh!t happens EVERYWHERE
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:33 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Syliblond81106
That is the worst block ever...ANyone who goes down XBay BLVD knows there's someone always double/triple/qud parking!!!!!
i always take the side streets to avoid that
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:33 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
well the biggest offenders are those that park on 159th avenue where gino's is. one of my friends owns a business on that block
basically, they have a deal with the cops
you don't ticket our patrons, we give you free stuff
Please, it's such BS. And to have any kind of business there you have to pay off the mob. My mom's friend's business what shut down because they didn't like her competing with their store. It's really insane.
who said anything about the mob??
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:34 AM |
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june262004
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
We're all working on what information we do have. And I think the racially motivated story adds up and makes complete sense. If you've lived in the neighborhood long enough, you realize that a racist attitude represents a LOT more than 10% of the population. Even the people they interviewed in the secondary articles were so ridiculously racist. This one guy interviewed was trying not to seem racist and he said something like "I'm not racist. If a black man moved onto my block I wouldn't move away, I'd just tell him I better not catch him stealing the motors out of the cars on the block." Um HELLO. And they interviewed kids on the news saying "Yeah it's always been this way, they should have known better." It's complete denial to say that Howard Beach is NOT hotbed of racism. That isn't to say that everyone there is racist, but it's a place where racism has been able to be cushioned in this little bubble of all white people. A lot of people in my neighborhood were racist. When people of different colors started moving in, they all moved away (to howard beach) or they got over it/learned to deal. If you can say it wasn't a ahte crime, you can also say there was no car theft and then black kids were visiting their grandma who is one of the eight black residents of Howard Beach. We're all working off of the same information here. NEVER did the white boys say they beat the kid up because he was stealing a car, it was always a terrotorial thing, which was the same motivation in the 1986 case.
And I think seeing Al Sharpton around the neighborhood will be hilarious. I wish I didn't have to work today. Bring on the media circus. I love it! The only problem is that i just don't think anything will get through people's thick heads. In 1986 HB residents took up a collection for the white gang members. I don't think that much has changed.
How old were you in 1986 that you can remember all that like 3?
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:35 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
i was like 10
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:35 AM |
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CowgirlChick97
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Me too....it's totally annoying!!!
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:35 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
and marymoon, one other thing, you make it sound like ozone park is the land of tolerance
i seem to remember 3 cases in the last 10 years where, by the movie theaters, white kids were getting beat up and killed by black kids for their jackets
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:39 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
It's absolutely not. That's why i'm saying, I live in the next town, i know how it is. it's just in OZP we don't have a 95% white neighborhood, so things are definitely a lot different. People can act territorial (and they do) but there's really not much they can do, it's already a really diverse neighborhood. Howard Beach is unique in that it's basically all white.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:41 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
Posted by marymoon
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
well the biggest offenders are those that park on 159th avenue where gino's is. one of my friends owns a business on that block
basically, they have a deal with the cops
you don't ticket our patrons, we give you free stuff
Please, it's such BS. And to have any kind of business there you have to pay off the mob. My mom's friend's business what shut down because they didn't like her competing with their store. It's really insane.
I was just adding a comment
who said anything about the mob??
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:41 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
It's absolutely not. That's why i'm saying, I live in the next town, i know how it is. it's just in OZP we don't have a 95% white neighborhood, so things are definitely a lot different. People can act territorial (and they do) but there's really not much they can do, it's already a really diverse neighborhood. Howard Beach is unique in that it's basically all white.
bottom line, racism exists everywhere, to target HB as the hotbed where it all revolves is silly IMO
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:42 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
I was 4, and I actually do remember it. I didn't understand it at the time, but I remember all of the panic and fear. And the circumstances of the events have not been forgotten. And if they had been, now they're all over the papers once again.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:43 AM |
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june262004
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
i was like 10
I was like 5 or 6 (depending when it happened)
I don't remember it, I remember reading about it a few years ago. And I remember seeing the movie.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:43 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
It's absolutely not. That's why i'm saying, I live in the next town, i know how it is. it's just in OZP we don't have a 95% white neighborhood, so things are definitely a lot different. People can act territorial (and they do) but there's really not much they can do, it's already a really diverse neighborhood. Howard Beach is unique in that it's basically all white.
In the end...the black kids that where there PERPETUATED RACISM!
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:43 AM |
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june262004
But I love the Snow!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
I was 4, and I actually do remember it. I didn't understand it at the time, but I remember all of the panic and fear. And the circumstances of the events have not been forgotten. And if they had been, now they're all over the papers once again.
But I thought you were like 21?
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:44 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
Posted by marymoon
It's absolutely not. That's why i'm saying, I live in the next town, i know how it is. it's just in OZP we don't have a 95% white neighborhood, so things are definitely a lot different. People can act territorial (and they do) but there's really not much they can do, it's already a really diverse neighborhood. Howard Beach is unique in that it's basically all white.
bottom line, racism exists everywhere, to target HB as the hotbed where it all revolves is silly IMO
I didn't say it all revolves in HB. I just think on the whole, if you could take a survey, Howard Beach is a more racist area than most other areas of NYC. I mean, talk to people for 5 minutes and you'll realize that. That isn't to say there aren't other areas that are just as bad or worse, but Howard Beach is a very racist area. it just is.
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