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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Bring on the media circus. Clubbing people in a racial motivated rage needs to be stopped.
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
and i'm telling you, having lived there for 25 years, you're view is misconstrued, it's not as bad as it is led to believe
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:45 AM |
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Elbee
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
I was 4, and I actually do remember it. I didn't understand it at the time, but I remember all of the panic and fear. And the circumstances of the events have not been forgotten. And if they had been, now they're all over the papers once again.
you remember the panic and fear, yet you welcome the media circus and Al Sharpton marching down Crossbay to insite even more tension 
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:45 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Janice
Bring on the media circus. Clubbing people in a racial motivated rage needs to be stopped.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:46 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Redhead
Posted by marymoon
It's absolutely not. That's why i'm saying, I live in the next town, i know how it is. it's just in OZP we don't have a 95% white neighborhood, so things are definitely a lot different. People can act territorial (and they do) but there's really not much they can do, it's already a really diverse neighborhood. Howard Beach is unique in that it's basically all white.
In the end...the black kids that where there PERPETUATED RACISM!
yeah, sadly enough they did. I think it would be a lot better of case for tolerance had the kids not been there to steal a car, but they were, thus perpetuating everyone thinking the only reason for black kids to be in HB is to steal a car. It's really, really sad. I wish good could come of this, but it won't.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:46 AM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
Posted by Janice
Bring on the media circus. Clubbing people in a racial motivated rage needs to be stopped.
it doesn't need to be stopped?
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:47 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
it does, but not by marching and adding to the tension
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:47 AM |
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Redhead
You Live, You Learn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Janice
Bring on the media circus. Clubbing people in a racial motivated rage needs to be stopped.
So does the stealing of cars and buglaries
maybe if their azzes weren't there doing THAT then none of this would have happened!
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:48 AM |
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june262004
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Im sorry but AL SHARPTON Doesn't help anything. He makes things worse! And I know African American people who will tell you that!
But I must admit when he was running for the presidency he actually made sense!
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:50 AM |
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Elbee
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
I have an idea - why don't we march in the neighborhood where these boys are from and bring to light the person who tried to pay them $6,000 to steal a car ... maybe the media attention will stop future burgularies?????
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:50 AM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Janice
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
so then maybe a car owner crusade will start and a march on protecting our automoblies. Do it that is fine.
But to me a man's skull is more important than a car.
Do you think they deserved what they got?
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:50 AM |
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Redhead
You Live, You Learn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Elbee
I have an idea - why don't we march in the neighborhood where these boys are from and bring to light the person who tried to pay them $6,000 to steal a car ... maybe the media attention will stop future burgularies?????
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:51 AM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
and i'm telling you, having lived there for 25 years, you're view is misconstrued, it's not as bad as it is led to believe
Ok. My experiences of living in the area have been different. but I'm not saying that everyone is racist or even half. I just think it's more generally accepted in HB to be racist or be openly racist, and since it's all white neighborhood, nothing is going to change that. I mean it will, things are changing graduatlly, but there's no external force, etc. A lot of people, speaking form my experience on my block which was 100% white when i was a kid, and is about 50% white now, as more and more non-whites moved in, a lot of white people sold their houses and moved to HB or LI. The people who didn't sell their houses, but still didn't like any "outsiders" on the block have for the most part gotten to know our new neighbors and realized, hey they're not bad people, and maybe gotten over soem of their racism. That progression hasn't happenning HB. There's racism everywhere, and I don't think it's that OZP people and HB people are different, I just think OZP people were forced tog et over it or move out. They didn't have a choice. In HB, it's all white. People cna hang on to their racism easily with no black, hispnic, asian, etc neighbors.
This is just my observation
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:51 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Janice
so then maybe a car owner crusade will start and a march on protecting our automoblies. Do it that is fine.
But to me a man's skull is more important than a car.
Do you think they deserved what they got?
IMO he put himself there....
If he wasn't doing something he should have been...his skull would be intact!
ETA...do i think he deserved to get his skull beaten...no...BUT...if he was in or near my car...my DH would come out with a bat!
Message edited 7/1/2005 9:53:41 AM.
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Elbee
I have an idea - why don't we march in the neighborhood where these boys are from and bring to light the person who tried to pay them $6,000 to steal a car ... maybe the media attention will stop future burgularies?????
sounds like a great idea, it is a free country, go for it.
At least Al Sharpton is doing something. He is a very wise man. I don't agree with everything he does, but I do believe he is a strong humanitarian
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:52 AM |
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june262004
But I love the Snow!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
THEY ARE 20 YEAR OLD BOYS THEY DO STUPID THINGS!!!!! The black Boys could have been WHITE and The White boys could have been clubbing white boy and the MEDIA wouldn't have even heard about it! Do you know how often that happens?
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Janice
Posted by Elbee
I have an idea - why don't we march in the neighborhood where these boys are from and bring to light the person who tried to pay them $6,000 to steal a car ... maybe the media attention will stop future burgularies?????
sounds like a great idea, it is a free country, go for it.
At least Al Sharpton is doing something. He is a very wise man. I don't agree with everything he does, but I do believe he is a strong humanitarian
why don't you go march with him then
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:53 AM |
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JenniferEver
The Disney Lady
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
I don't think Al Sharpton is going to cause a problem. I think he's going to do his thing and leave. I don't anticipate the same kind of riots we had in 1986. I think people saw all that commotion and don't want to repeat it. I could be completely wrong. I presonally just think Al Sharpton is hilarious.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:54 AM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
and i'm telling you, having lived there for 25 years, you're view is misconstrued, it's not as bad as it is led to believe
Ok. My experiences of living in the area have been different. but I'm not saying that everyone is racist or even half. I just think it's more generally accepted in HB to be racist or be openly racist, and since it's all white neighborhood, nothing is going to change that. I mean it will, things are changing graduatlly, but there's no external force, etc. A lot of people, speaking form my experience on my block which was 100% white when i was a kid, and is about 50% white now, as more and more non-whites moved in, a lot of white people sold their houses and moved to HB or LI. The people who didn't sell their houses, but still didn't like any "outsiders" on the block have for the most part gotten to know our new neighbors and realized, hey they're not bad people, and maybe gotten over soem of their racism. That progression hasn't happenning HB. There's racism everywhere, and I don't think it's that OZP people and HB people are different, I just think OZP people were forced tog et over it or move out. They didn't have a choice. In HB, it's all white. People cna hang on to their racism easily with no black, hispnic, asian, etc neighbors.
This is just my observation
ok, i can go along with that
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:55 AM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by june262004
THEY ARE 20 YEAR OLD BOYS THEY DO STUPID THINGS!!!!! The black Boys could have been WHITE and The White boys could have been clubbing white boy and the MEDIA wouldn't have even heard about it! Do you know how often that happens?
It is being made public due to the fact that it is a hate crime. This day in age, hate crimes should be a thing of the past.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:56 AM |
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Elbee
Zanzibar
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Janice
At least Al Sharpton is doing something. He is a very wise man. I don't agree with everything he does, but I do believe he is a strong humanitarian
I'm sorry, did you say Al Sharpton is a very wise man???
I've met him on a few occassions and he's anything but wise or out for the good of the people. Al Sharpton is out for #1 and how to get ahead for himself by using people!
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:56 AM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Janice
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
Posted by Janice
Posted by Elbee
I have an idea - why don't we march in the neighborhood where these boys are from and bring to light the person who tried to pay them $6,000 to steal a car ... maybe the media attention will stop future burgularies?????
sounds like a great idea, it is a free country, go for it.
At least Al Sharpton is doing something. He is a very wise man. I don't agree with everything he does, but I do believe he is a strong humanitarian
why don't you go march with him then
at work today doing the 9 to 5 thing, but I was in the '97 plunger march.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:57 AM |
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JenniferEver
The Disney Lady
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
I'd march with him..except that i don't know what he's amrching against? racism? howard beach? If it's just a march to show and promote tolerance then I'm all over that. But I don't really know if this merits a march just yet. So far the community, while not exactly denouncing the actions completely, is NOT supporting the white boys, so I don't really see what the march is for. Maybe for people to show that not all HB people are racist, and that racially motivated crimes will not be tolerated? That would be good.
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CowgirlChick97
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
LOL.
Honestly, I think that AL marching is a bad idea. While it is good to stand up for what you believe in and all of that, this causes only more further chaos....
Just leave it at that...
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:57 AM |
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Redhead
You Live, You Learn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
couldn't have said it any better
Message edited 7/1/2005 10:00:17 AM.
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| Posted 7/1/05 9:59 AM |
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