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Redhead
You Live, You Learn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
WOW....
All i got to say is i agree with Juney...3 sides to every story...
And as far as the rapist analogy...sorry...no wearing the short skirt shouldn't get you raped...BUT there are certainly ways to NOT get raped. IMO just a bad analogy
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
quite a read isn't it? 
Message edited 6/30/2005 6:07:38 PM.
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:07 PM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
Posted by Janice
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
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all i am saying is that there is no need to throw religion in my face
so was not throwing it in your face but that was the reason why I am not out for #1.
and that's fine
by the way, i am catholic
all i am saying is that i am worried about my family's well-being
is that wrong??
Maybe it is a gender thing, because my dad(also catholic) and DH would share your same response.
perhaps, but my wife agrees 100% with me
I don't know then Don, I try and live my life by a different code. I might not be sucessful at it all the time, but I try.
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:07 PM |
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
and you're saying i'm not a good person for wanting to protect my family
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:09 PM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
and you're saying i'm not a good person for wanting to protect my family
what's this in my mouth? ohhh all the words you are putting in it!!!
 
Am I saying my dad or DH is not a good person? no. I just don't think that will ever be the solution. If a hate crime happened 2 minutes from my home I would be furious. You don't deserve that. I would hate it if my neighbor clubbed people in the head. I would want a crackdown. Protect your family, go ahead, more power to you. But to say a situation in cool that a guy is laying in a hospital as long as their is no unwanted activity brought into your families life to me is selfish. I agreed with you riots would be horrible, but to use the word cool that a kids head was bashed in and maybe this was not a possible hate crime because he was stealing a car is not what I would have said.
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:17 PM |
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dm24angel
Happiness
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
right near my friends house too..ITs very sad and scary!
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:21 PM |
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CowgirlChick97
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
WOAH.
First of all, today I tried to get to this website but I couldnt.
I live close to Don and here are my thoughts on it:
I agree with Mrs.Erod in that neither of the parties had either right being out at 3 am. If it was in any other neighborhood, I wouldn't have considered it a hate crime right away, but since it is in Howard Beach, it's a different story. Not knocking Howard Beach, but that's just the way it is there. I actually know the 2 kids involved, not personally, but they are friends of friends. They tried to act like tough guys from A bronx Tale and it didnt' work out.
There are different reports and rumors going around that the 2 groups actually had an altercation a few days before, but will we ever know the truth? Again, there's always 3 sides to the story.
I do think it is absolutely wrong what bat boy and his friends did, especially after he went back and got friends and a bat to beat this kid up. I do also think that it was wrong, of course, for these kids to plot to steal a car.
In the end, bat boy and his friends are wrong, and it is going to be portrayed as a hate crime, especially since it is in Howard Beach.
That is all your honor 
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:22 PM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Syliblond81106
WOAH.
First of all, today I tried to get to this website but I couldnt.
I live close to Don and here are my thoughts on it:
I agree with Mrs.Erod in that neither of the parties had either right being out at 3 am. If it was in any other neighborhood, I wouldn't have considered it a hate crime right away, but since it is in Howard Beach, it's a different story. Not knocking Howard Beach, but that's just the way it is there. I actually know the 2 kids involved, not personally, but they are friends of friends. They tried to act like tough guys from A bronx Tale and it didnt' work out.
There are different reports and rumors going around that the 2 groups actually had an altercation a few days before, but will we ever know the truth? Again, there's always 3 sides to the story.
I do think it is absolutely wrong what bat boy and his friends did, especially after he went back and got friends and a bat to beat this kid up. I do also think that it was wrong, of course, for these kids to plot to steal a car.
In the end, bat boy and his friends are wrong, and it is going to be portrayed as a hate crime, especially since it is in Howard Beach.
That is all your honor
very accurate summary of the day's events.
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:24 PM |
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CowgirlChick97
Nike. Just do it.
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Thank you
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:25 PM |
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Janice
Sweet Jessie Quinn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
okay I am heading home, thank you all for a quick moving, thought provoking day.
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| Posted 6/30/05 6:26 PM |
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JenniferEver
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
I don't know if the car theft story is true or not. Were the other 2 guys involved, or was it him too? Who cares? a) The guys who beat them didn't know they were stealing a car 2) If they did, then if they had time to switch cars and get firneds and a baseball bat, they had time to call the police. I know the 106 taks a long time to repond, but that doesn'tmmake it time for vigilante justice. I don't think what they were doing in the nighborhood is at all relevant. I think it was a racially motivated beating. I think the man who was beaten WAS innocent. Maybe he was about to steal a car, maybe not, but putting somsone in jail for grand theft auto and beating them brutally on the head and stealing their shoes are two different things! One is called the judicial system the other is battery. I don't think the fact that these kids may or may not have been planning to steal a car mitigates the hate crime in the least.
And I live 5 minutes from Lindenwood. this is where I live, and my family in danger. I just think having a car stolen is a lt differnet than being beaten for the color of your skin. And in any case it's not either or. I feel they're unrelated.
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| Posted 6/30/05 7:50 PM |
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Redhead
You Live, You Learn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
I don't know if the car theft story is true or not. Were the other 2 guys involved, or was it him too? Who cares? a) The guys who beat them didn't know they were stealing a car 2) If they did, then if they had time to switch cars and get firneds and a baseball bat, they had time to call the police. I know the 106 taks a long time to repond, but that doesn'tmmake it time for vigilante justice. I don't think what they were doing in the nighborhood is at all relevant. I think it was a racially motivated beating. I think the man who was beaten WAS innocent. Maybe he was about to steal a car, maybe not, but putting somsone in jail for grand theft auto and beating them brutally on the head and stealing their shoes are two different things! One is called the judicial system the other is battery. I don't think the fact that these kids may or may not have been planning to steal a car mitigates the hate crime in the least.
And I live 5 minutes from Lindenwood. this is where I live, and my family in danger. I just think having a car stolen is a lt differnet than being beaten for the color of your skin. And in any case it's not either or. I feel they're unrelated.
sorry but i do think that them being inthe neighborhood at the time they were...and that they were there to steal a car...certainly is relevant.
Does that deserve a beating...HELL NO. And i do agree the COPS SHOULD have been called...who the hell are they to take the law into their own hands!
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| Posted 6/30/05 7:59 PM |
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HarleyGirlFLA
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
oh dear 
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Crazeddiva
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
I just think it is very sad that we have to live in a world like this with so much other stuff going on in this world we really don't need this. The actions of this BOYS made it worse for all of us. Unreal really.
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| Posted 6/30/05 9:07 PM |
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CowgirlChick97
Nike. Just do it.
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by Redhead
Posted by marymoon
I don't know if the car theft story is true or not. Were the other 2 guys involved, or was it him too? Who cares? a) The guys who beat them didn't know they were stealing a car 2) If they did, then if they had time to switch cars and get firneds and a baseball bat, they had time to call the police. I know the 106 taks a long time to repond, but that doesn'tmmake it time for vigilante justice. I don't think what they were doing in the nighborhood is at all relevant. I think it was a racially motivated beating. I think the man who was beaten WAS innocent. Maybe he was about to steal a car, maybe not, but putting somsone in jail for grand theft auto and beating them brutally on the head and stealing their shoes are two different things! One is called the judicial system the other is battery. I don't think the fact that these kids may or may not have been planning to steal a car mitigates the hate crime in the least.
And I live 5 minutes from Lindenwood. this is where I live, and my family in danger. I just think having a car stolen is a lt differnet than being beaten for the color of your skin. And in any case it's not either or. I feel they're unrelated.
sorry but i do think that them being inthe neighborhood at the time they were...and that they were there to steal a car...certainly is relevant.
Does that deserve a beating...HELL NO. And i do agree the COPS SHOULD have been called...who the hell are they to take the law into their own hands!
Jen (Both Jens)
Agreed, those kids should have called the cops if they assumed they were "suspicious" looking. Maybe the cops were too busy giving out tickets to people who double park on XBAY Boulevard.....
OH WAIT I FORGOT. THEY DONT GIVE OUT TICKETS TO ANYONE IN HOWARD BEACH
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| Posted 6/30/05 9:55 PM |
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JenniferEver
The Disney Lady
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
The guy would have gotten beaten up whether he was there to murder someone or to bring chicken soup to a sick friend, so the car theft is irrelevent. The white guys didn't know anything about it, and had it been 3 other white guys walking around Lindenwood, stealing a car or not they would not have gotten a beatdown over it. I don't think the car theft is relvent because the white kids didn't know it at the time, if they had they STILL did the wrong thing, so I don't see how it pertains at all.
And even if someone could possibly think it justified at all, please, if it comes to letting somsone potentially steal my car and bashing their head in, by all means let them take my car. And you all know I LOVE my car.
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| Posted 6/30/05 11:47 PM |
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june262004
But I love the Snow!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
WOW someone hates howard beach 
I read in Newsday tonight that Bat Boy was on probation for stabing someone last year. Obviosly a bad kid to being with. It also said they were working on the car when the alarm went off a light in the Kitchen went on and a lady stepped out onto her porch.
Again both parties are wrong.
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| Posted 6/30/05 11:52 PM |
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june262004
But I love the Snow!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
The guy would have gotten beaten up whether he was there to murder someone or to bring chicken soup to a sick friend, so the car theft is irrelevent. The white guys didn't know anything about it, and had it been 3 other white guys walking around Lindenwood, stealing a car or not they would not have gotten a beatdown over it. I don't think the car theft is relvent because the white kids didn't know it at the time, if they had they STILL did the wrong thing, so I don't see how it pertains at all.
And even if someone could possibly think it justified at all, please, if it comes to letting somsone potentially steal my car and bashing their head in, by all means let them take my car. And you all know I LOVE my car.
Oh so you were there then?
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| Posted 6/30/05 11:53 PM |
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june262004
But I love the Snow!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
And even if someone could possibly think it justified at all, please, if it comes to letting somsone potentially steal my car and bashing their head in, by all means let them take my car. And you all know I LOVE my car.
And just one more thing you aren't a 20 year old boy.
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Posted by marymoon
And even if someone could possibly think it justified at all, please, if it comes to letting somsone potentially steal my car and bashing their head in, by all means let them take my car. And you all know I LOVE my car.
Not commenting on this particuliar story because who knows what really happened...but
I have had my car stolen from in front of my house twice. If I am unlucky enough to experience this again in my lifetime, I wld certainly prefer to pummel the thief.
Sorry if that upsets anyone.
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JenniferEver
The Disney Lady
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by -DonnaMarie-
Posted by marymoon
And even if someone could possibly think it justified at all, please, if it comes to letting somsone potentially steal my car and bashing their head in, by all means let them take my car. And you all know I LOVE my car.
Not commenting on this particuliar story because who knows what really happened...but
I have had my car stolen from in front of my house twice. If I am unlucky enough to experience this again in my lifetime, I wld certainly prefer to pummel the thief.
Sorry if that upsets anyone.
We've had several cars stolen too. I just don't believe anyone deserves to be brually beaten. That's why we have a justice system in place. And this guy didn't get beaten for planning to steala car he got beaten up for being black
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june262004
But I love the Snow!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
Posted by -DonnaMarie-
Posted by marymoon
And even if someone could possibly think it justified at all, please, if it comes to letting somsone potentially steal my car and bashing their head in, by all means let them take my car. And you all know I LOVE my car.
Not commenting on this particuliar story because who knows what really happened...but
I have had my car stolen from in front of my house twice. If I am unlucky enough to experience this again in my lifetime, I wld certainly prefer to pummel the thief.
Sorry if that upsets anyone.
We've had several cars stolen too. I just don't believe anyone deserves to be brually beaten. That's why we have a justice system in place. And this guy didn't get beaten for planning to steala car he got beaten up for being black
Or maybe for holding a screwdriver to someone trying to steal a necklace!
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| Posted 7/1/05 12:23 AM |
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Redhead
You Live, You Learn
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
The guy would have gotten beaten up whether he was there to murder someone or to bring chicken soup to a sick friend, so the car theft is irrelevent. The white guys didn't know anything about it, and had it been 3 other white guys walking around Lindenwood, stealing a car or not they would not have gotten a beatdown over it. I don't think the car theft is relvent because the white kids didn't know it at the time, if they had they STILL did the wrong thing, so I don't see how it pertains at all.
And even if someone could possibly think it justified at all, please, if it comes to letting somsone potentially steal my car and bashing their head in, by all means let them take my car. And you all know I LOVE my car.
I don't know about you BUT ANYONE walking around my car at 3 am...white, black, purple certainly WOULD be met by my bat holding DH.
AND i am sorry but ANYONE would think that someone walking around in the streets at that hour IS UP TO NO GOOD. INCLUDING YOU MARYMOON. Bringing soup to a sick friend...GIVE ME A BREAK. 
And i know i am out there but if ANYONE was going to steal my car....they deserve a beating. I work my azz off for the money i get to buy the things i have. AND if ANYONE (black, white, purple) tried to take that away from me...OH JEEZ i would go ape-sh!t. Who the hell is ANYONE to take something that belongs to ME. So they can go sell it or break it down to get money! SORRY....that is no human being to me and worthless imo
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Elbee
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
Posted by marymoon
We've had several cars stolen too. I just don't believe anyone deserves to be brually beaten. That's why we have a justice system in place. And this guy didn't get beaten for planning to steala car he got beaten up for being black
Honestly Marymoon, no one knows the REAL story here ... you are happy to BELIEVE what the media and the azzhole Bloomburg is telling you (ummm, election year anyone???) ... you have no idea of what transpired between the two groups days before the incident and you have no idea what happend the night-of. There could have been back and forth between the group and the start of a fight, there could have been attempted robbery ... Just because it's Howard Beach it's being portrayed as 1986 again. I'd rather have ALL my facts before jumping on the Al Sharpton Bandwagon, especially when the victim(s) admitted they were up to no good.
How do you know the victim didn't start badmouthing the first guy and the guy left and got his friends? How do you know the story you are even hearing is true?
Again, to all the people defending the victim of the beating ... I am not saying it's not true .. but NONE of us know the WHOLE story and instead of making this out to be 1986, wait for the facts of the case to come to light.
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QuoteTheRaven424
22 Months?!!!!
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Re: Well, we made the front page again
i heard in passing that sharpton's group is gonna do a march in howard beach
great -- just what we need 
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