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What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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mommy2devin
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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

'
Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
Chat Icon



Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



I get that, I honestly do. Everyone had their reasoning, BUT Windy makes these VERY generalized statements and I would bet the majority of those who made the decision to get a vaccine did NOT do it for the ability to not wear a mask. We all have our story, but I do not find her statements to be fact. She just spews misinformation.

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

THIS is what I am talking about 2 different types of people. I saw this on social media and I am sure there are many places that are packed like this every weekend.



Good example of why we are where we are again!



Funny but this has been going on since May, all over and no spikes.

Again 2 different sets of people. The ones who are going out and are fine and the ones masking up and getting sick, blaming them unvaccinated.



The level of stupidity in your posts continues to grow. It’s unbelievable. As you love to ask- where are the stats for this idiotic statement?



“ That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.”

This?

Posted 8/1/21 8:42 PM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by MrsWoods

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Posted by Diane

I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

'
Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
Chat Icon



Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.





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Posted 8/1/21 8:44 PM
 

mommy2devin
2 Boys, I need calgon!

Member since 10/07

1572 total posts

Name:
Shannon

Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

THIS is what I am talking about 2 different types of people. I saw this on social media and I am sure there are many places that are packed like this every weekend.



Good example of why we are where we are again!



Funny but this has been going on since May, all over and no spikes.

Again 2 different sets of people. The ones who are going out and are fine and the ones masking up and getting sick, blaming them unvaccinated.



The level of stupidity in your posts continues to grow. It’s unbelievable. As you love to ask- where are the stats for this idiotic statement?



“ That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.”

This?



What are you failing to point out here? What does this show? Your OPINION?

Posted 8/1/21 8:45 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by MrsWoods

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Diane

I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

'
Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
Chat Icon



Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



I get that, I honestly do. Everyone had their reasoning, BUT Windy makes these VERY generalized statements and I would bet the majority of those who made the decision to get a vaccine did NOT do it for the ability to not wear a mask. We all have our story, but I do not find her statements to be fact. She just spews misinformation.




This is just one person of many. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it is not true.

Posted 8/1/21 8:48 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

THIS is what I am talking about 2 different types of people. I saw this on social media and I am sure there are many places that are packed like this every weekend.



Good example of why we are where we are again!



Funny but this has been going on since May, all over and no spikes.

Again 2 different sets of people. The ones who are going out and are fine and the ones masking up and getting sick, blaming them unvaccinated.



The level of stupidity in your posts continues to grow. It’s unbelievable. As you love to ask- where are the stats for this idiotic statement?



“ That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.”

This?



What are you failing to point out here? What does this show? Your OPINION?



Show me where I used there and their incorrectly please. I honestly would like to know so I can fix. Thank you.

Posted 8/1/21 8:48 PM
 

mommy2devin
2 Boys, I need calgon!

Member since 10/07

1572 total posts

Name:
Shannon

Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

THIS is what I am talking about 2 different types of people. I saw this on social media and I am sure there are many places that are packed like this every weekend.



Good example of why we are where we are again!



Funny but this has been going on since May, all over and no spikes.

Again 2 different sets of people. The ones who are going out and are fine and the ones masking up and getting sick, blaming them unvaccinated.



The level of stupidity in your posts continues to grow. It’s unbelievable. As you love to ask- where are the stats for this idiotic statement?



“ That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.”

This?



What are you failing to point out here? What does this show? Your OPINION?



Show me where I used there and their incorrectly please. I honestly would like to know so I can fix. Thank you.



OMG I DID TWICE NOW. BUT, I'll show you again. IN the next post I'm going to quote the post where you made the same error you continue to make AGAIN. I'll post it AGAIN... what is wrong with you?

Posted 8/1/21 8:50 PM
 

mommy2devin
2 Boys, I need calgon!

Member since 10/07

1572 total posts

Name:
Shannon

Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

THIS is what I am talking about 2 different types of people. I saw this on social media and I am sure there are many places that are packed like this every weekend.



Good example of why we are where we are again!



Funny but this has been going on since May, all over and no spikes.

Again 2 different sets of people. The ones who are going out and are fine and the ones masking up and getting sick, blaming them unvaccinated.



You are so right... those who go out and live their life are fine and those who choose to mask up are the ones getting sick... you don't even make sense.



Are their stats to prove that masked people are not getting sick? Only the unmasked and unvaccinated (which is not true as they have already determined that)?




RIGHT HERE

Posted 8/1/21 8:51 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

THIS is what I am talking about 2 different types of people. I saw this on social media and I am sure there are many places that are packed like this every weekend.



Good example of why we are where we are again!



Funny but this has been going on since May, all over and no spikes.

Again 2 different sets of people. The ones who are going out and are fine and the ones masking up and getting sick, blaming them unvaccinated.



You are so right... those who go out and live their life are fine and those who choose to mask up are the ones getting sick... you don't even make sense.



Are their stats to prove that masked people are not getting sick? Only the unmasked and unvaccinated (which is not true as they have already determined that)?




RIGHT HERE



Ahh thank you. I kept missing that :)

Posted 8/1/21 8:54 PM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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Posted by MrsWoods

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Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by RainyDay

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Posted by chilltocam

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Posted by chilltocam

Posted by NervousNell

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Posted by chilltocam

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Posted by Diane

I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

'
Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
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Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



I get that, I honestly do. Everyone had their reasoning, BUT Windy makes these VERY generalized statements and I would bet the majority of those who made the decision to get a vaccine did NOT do it for the ability to not wear a mask. We all have our story, but I do not find her statements to be fact. She just spews misinformation.




This is just one person of many. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it is not true.



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I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

'
Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
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Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



I get that, I honestly do. Everyone had their reasoning, BUT Windy makes these VERY generalized statements and I would bet the majority of those who made the decision to get a vaccine did NOT do it for the ability to not wear a mask. We all have our story, but I do not find her statements to be fact. She just spews misinformation.




This is just one person of many. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it is not true.



OMG, are you this dense? NOWHERE did I say that NOBODY got the vaccine b/c they wanted to not wear a mask. What I said if you had the ability to read and comprehend, is that wasn't the MAIN reason for MANY who chose to get a vaccine. NOT wearing a mask was certainly a perk for many, BUT NOT THE REASON they chose to get a vaccine. Do you really not understand the difference? IT WASN'T THE DECIDING FACTOR IN THEIR DECISION. It was a perk. BIG difference? Does that mean that NOBODY got the vaccine SIMPLY to not wear a mask? NO. Never said that.

ALSO NOTE the correct use of THEIR if you need an example.

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Posted by Diane

I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

'
Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
Chat Icon



Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



I get that, I honestly do. Everyone had their reasoning, BUT Windy makes these VERY generalized statements and I would bet the majority of those who made the decision to get a vaccine did NOT do it for the ability to not wear a mask. We all have our story, but I do not find her statements to be fact. She just spews misinformation.




This is just one person of many. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it is not true.



OMG, are you this dense? NOWHERE did I say that NOBODY got the vaccine b/c they wanted to not wear a mask. What I said if you had the ability to read and comprehend, is that wasn't the MAIN reason for MANY who chose to get a vaccine. NOT wearing a mask was certainly a perk for many, BUT NOT THE REASON they chose to get a vaccine. Do you really not understand the difference? IT WASN'T THE DECIDING FACTOR IN THEIR DECISION. It was a perk. BIG difference? Does that mean that NOBODY got the vaccine SIMPLY to not wear a mask? NO. Never said that.

ALSO NOTE the correct use of THEIR if you need an example.



Sounds like you are having difficult day. I will let you go as you seem very upset. Whoever upset you today should be the one you are taking your aggression out on.

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Posted by Diane

I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

'
Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
Chat Icon



Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



I get that, I honestly do. Everyone had their reasoning, BUT Windy makes these VERY generalized statements and I would bet the majority of those who made the decision to get a vaccine did NOT do it for the ability to not wear a mask. We all have our story, but I do not find her statements to be fact. She just spews misinformation.




This is just one person of many. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it is not true.



OMG, are you this dense? NOWHERE did I say that NOBODY got the vaccine b/c they wanted to not wear a mask. What I said if you had the ability to read and comprehend, is that wasn't the MAIN reason for MANY who chose to get a vaccine. NOT wearing a mask was certainly a perk for many, BUT NOT THE REASON they chose to get a vaccine. Do you really not understand the difference? IT WASN'T THE DECIDING FACTOR IN THEIR DECISION. It was a perk. BIG difference? Does that mean that NOBODY got the vaccine SIMPLY to not wear a mask? NO. Never said that.

ALSO NOTE the correct use of THEIR if you need an example.



Sounds like you are having difficult day. I will let you go as you seem very upset. Whoever upset you today should be the one you are taking your aggression out on.



Condescending as always. Stop pretending that you know more about people on here than they know about themselves. So completely beyond obnoxious. You are seriously troubled

Posted 8/1/21 10:38 PM
 

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Posted by Diane

I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

'
Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
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Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



I get that, I honestly do. Everyone had their reasoning, BUT Windy makes these VERY generalized statements and I would bet the majority of those who made the decision to get a vaccine did NOT do it for the ability to not wear a mask. We all have our story, but I do not find her statements to be fact. She just spews misinformation.




This is just one person of many. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it is not true.



OMG, are you this dense? NOWHERE did I say that NOBODY got the vaccine b/c they wanted to not wear a mask. What I said if you had the ability to read and comprehend, is that wasn't the MAIN reason for MANY who chose to get a vaccine. NOT wearing a mask was certainly a perk for many, BUT NOT THE REASON they chose to get a vaccine. Do you really not understand the difference? IT WASN'T THE DECIDING FACTOR IN THEIR DECISION. It was a perk. BIG difference? Does that mean that NOBODY got the vaccine SIMPLY to not wear a mask? NO. Never said that.

ALSO NOTE the correct use of THEIR if you need an example.



Sounds like you are having difficult day. I will let you go as you seem very upset. Whoever upset you today should be the one you are taking your aggression out on.



Condescending as always. Stop pretending that you know more about people on here than they know about themselves. So completely beyond obnoxious. You are seriously troubled



Right? I had a fantastic weekend.. LOL. Hiked with the family and dog, had some drinks with my husband and enjoyed our first baseball free weekend with my family. Kids and husband are now gone for a few days at the lake and I'm going to enjoy some alone time. No difficult day here.... LOL.

Posted 8/1/21 10:41 PM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by MrsWoods
Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



The only reason I got my children vaccinated was so they did not have to wear masks either. They would not have gotten it otherwise.

Posted 8/2/21 1:15 AM
 

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I feel like we especially now with possible mask wearing again even for the vaccinated people.
I am really upset, because I was just going to book our trip to Mexico in Feb., but I dont think it is a good idea, especially when my kids are not vaccinated ( I am more concerned about my one son and the vaccine, because he is on medication for ADHD and concerned about side effects).



Book it. Stop allowing all this fear to control everything.
If people would just stop listening to the fear mongering media and go and live and actually see what is going on around them, they would see if it blown out of proportion.



Really? This is your advice? Are you going to pay for the trip or the lost $$ if they can't go? So, the media is reporting cases are rising and the Delta variant is highly transmissible. Is that not true information? (and if you say it's not, please provide proof). How is keeping the public informed of what is actually happening "fear mongering"? There is a whole big world outside of the LI bubble and numbers are much higher in a lot of those other places. Booking a vacation and just
living as if everything is 100% fine is not going to make the reality of what is happening change. Seriously one of the most ridiculous answers ever.



The vacation is in February, not tomorrow.

People are actually going on vacations everyday and have been fine. I wouldn’t stop my plans for something 7 months away.



I'd still book and maybe just get trip insurance in case you have to cancel for whatever reason.
That's always a good idea anyway, because anything can come up and who wants to lose all that money.



Most travel insurance will not cover cancellations because of COVID

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Most resorts I've looked at have free or very lax cancellation policies due to Covid.
The airlines gave us full credit as well when we had to cancel due to Covid last year.
But there's always a negative, debbie downer answer, I know.
You're right, we shouldn't book anything ever again.
No more joy!!!
Just all delta variant, all the time!
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Yeah, I said never book a vacation again. Chat Icon How many people on here b1tched and moaned about getting airline credit and not a full refund last year? A LOT! If I was thinking about planning a vacation for Feb., at this point, I might be a little concerned that it could get canceled. The person who posted the question has a valid concern. To respond the way WW did was ridiculous and completely tone deaf and insensitive to the poster's issues and concerns. I never said don't book. What I did say was that the response of "go out and live your life because it's all just fear mongering and if you ignore it, it will all go away" was completely ridiculous



Anything is up in the air but many are traveling now and cruises have started so I wouldn't say just cancel all things planned right now.



Why do you keep mentioning people taking vacations NOW? What significance does that have with her trip in Feb.? If I was her, I would def be afraid that I would have to cancel because things could get worse.



Things could get better too. Seems everyone wants things to get worse and think she should just cancel because we will never be fully pre-Covid. So many are living pre-Covid right now and not sitting around waiting for the government to tell us how to live.



Yes exactly, pre covid RIGHT NOW. No one has any idea what will happen next month or in Feb. I walked into shoprite today and thought I missed the mask mandate sign because so many people were wearing mask again. I would say more mask wearers than non mask wearers. They even put up signs reminding shopper to not touch produce that they do not plan to buy.. So you can continue to live in your little bubble thinking we are moving back to lre-covid days when all signs are pointing opposite.



Again there are 2 groups of people. The ones that fall under the fear and the ones who are living as normal as they can.




You know absolutely nothing about people. To condescendingly say people who are concerned about the FACT things are getting worse are living in fear is disgusting. Get over yourself and maybe try offering the respect for other’s choices that you think you deserve for your choices.



Just stop. I am speaking of the ones who have been going out in large crowds and the ones who have decided to mask up again, even though they are vaccinated as they are scared.

There is a divide and if you haven’t seen it, then you haven’t been out all over the place.




If there is any such divide it’s because of people like you who focus on those who choose to do things differently than you and label them as living in fear. They’re doing what is right for them. Stop judging people who have a different comfort level than you do. You have no idea what someone else is living and no one owes you an explanation for choosing to wear a mask. Your obsession with that obviously continues for whatever reason. Live and let live. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Then you won’t see things as being “divided”.




You are crazy not to see what the media and government is doing to divide people. Telling them that unvaccinated people are making vaccinated people sick which there is no stats to prove that. Making people scared who are vaccinated to mask up again while it makes no sense as this is the reason they got the vaccine.

I do let people live as I am living my life, with no fear and doing everything the same I have been doing for months.

It sounds like you do as you are told without even questioning things, odd for someone who has been a lawyer for so long.



I would say most of us who got a vaccine didn’t do it to never wear a mask again. I don’t care about wearing a mask. My kids don’t care. I got the vaccine so I could put my mind at ease that IF we got sick we could stay out of hospitals and live. That was my choice. To do for me and those I love and care about and maybe help those I don’t know as well. But to say we got vaccines to stop wearing a mask is trivial. Stop generalizing already.




That is great, that is YOU. I think most did it not to wear a mask as when the mask mandate was lifting people were rejoicing and going on and on how ONLY the vaccinated people could take off their masks.



Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



I get that, I honestly do. Everyone had their reasoning, BUT Windy makes these VERY generalized statements and I would bet the majority of those who made the decision to get a vaccine did NOT do it for the ability to not wear a mask. We all have our story, but I do not find her statements to be fact. She just spews misinformation.




This is just one person of many. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean it is not true.



OMG, are you this dense? NOWHERE did I say that NOBODY got the vaccine b/c they wanted to not wear a mask. What I said if you had the ability to read and comprehend, is that wasn't the MAIN reason for MANY who chose to get a vaccine. NOT wearing a mask was certainly a perk for many, BUT NOT THE REASON they chose to get a vaccine. Do you really not understand the difference? IT WASN'T THE DECIDING FACTOR IN THEIR DECISION. It was a perk. BIG difference? Does that mean that NOBODY got the vaccine SIMPLY to not wear a mask? NO. Never said that.

ALSO NOTE the correct use of THEIR if you need an example.



Sounds like you are having difficult day. I will let you go as you seem very upset. Whoever upset you today should be the one you are taking your aggression out on.



Condescending as always. Stop pretending that you know more about people on here than they know about themselves. So completely beyond obnoxious. You are seriously troubled



Right? I had a fantastic weekend.. LOL. Hiked with the family and dog, had some drinks with my husband and enjoyed our first baseball free weekend with my family. Kids and husband are now gone for a few days at the lake and I'm going to enjoy some alone time. No difficult day here.... LOL.



Displaced anger.

Posted 8/2/21 6:50 AM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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Posted by MrsWoods
Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



The only reason I got my children vaccinated was so they did not have to wear masks either. They would not have gotten it otherwise.



That can’t be true as I just spew misinformation here it seems. SMH

Posted 8/2/21 6:54 AM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by KarenK122

Posted by MrsWoods
Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



The only reason I got my children vaccinated was so they did not have to wear masks either. They would not have gotten it otherwise.



That can’t be true as I just spew misinformation here it seems. SMH




KarenK is ONE, you said MOST as of its fact. If it's fact then provide the support and numbers to support your claim.

Posted 8/2/21 7:59 AM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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Posted by windyweather21

Posted by KarenK122

Posted by MrsWoods
Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



The only reason I got my children vaccinated was so they did not have to wear masks either. They would not have gotten it otherwise.



That can’t be true as I just spew misinformation here it seems. SMH




KarenK is ONE, you said MOST as of its fact. If it's fact then provide the support and numbers to support your claim.




You just posted TWO people and say ONE lol.

Posted 8/2/21 8:02 AM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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Posted by KarenK122

Posted by MrsWoods
Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



The only reason I got my children vaccinated was so they did not have to wear masks either. They would not have gotten it otherwise.



That can’t be true as I just spew misinformation here it seems. SMH




KarenK is ONE, you said MOST as of its fact. If it's fact then provide the support and numbers to support your claim.




You just posted TWO people and say ONE lol.



Where's your proof? Where are the STATS as you like to say, to support your claim of MOST??? Why don't you ever answer the question at the heart of the matter? Deflection at it's best.

Posted 8/2/21 9:35 AM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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Posted by KarenK122

Posted by MrsWoods
Speaking for my DH. Only reason he got the vaccine when he did was because he is a singer in a band and he did not want to put on any restrictions. Ex. Masks, distancing, or not being able to play some no vaccinated places. Other then that he would have never got it and doesn't plan to mask up either unless forced via mandate.



The only reason I got my children vaccinated was so they did not have to wear masks either. They would not have gotten it otherwise.



That can’t be true as I just spew misinformation here it seems. SMH




KarenK is ONE, you said MOST as of its fact. If it's fact then provide the support and numbers to support your claim.




You just posted TWO people and say ONE lol.



My DH and I got vaccinated to be able to live life more normally... We knew COVID wasn't going away and we still had a chance to get it (and didn't think we'd get that sick if we did get it).

Posted 8/2/21 9:36 AM
 

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What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

Just asked this question yesterday at a bbq. And the majority agreed ,including my own 81 year old mother, they got vaccinated to avoid restrictions and go on with life. No other reason

Posted 8/2/21 2:41 PM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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I seriously can't handle much more of this. The kids have to wear masks again at school next year...



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Yes. Very upsetting. Was hoping we were heading in the right direction



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Posted 8/2/21 2:48 PM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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Just asked this question yesterday at a bbq. And the majority agreed ,including my own 81 year old mother, they got vaccinated to avoid restrictions and go on with life. No other reason



Some of my family members who got vaccinated did it for the same exact reasons.

Posted 8/2/21 2:55 PM
 

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Re: What’s the latest with covid? Are we really going backwards?

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Posted by Mrs213

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Posted by Mrs213

I seriously can't handle much more of this. The kids have to wear masks again at school next year...



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Yes. Very upsetting. Was hoping we were heading in the right direction



I’m sorry to hear that. I can’t even imagine the struggles that some parents and children are going through. Chat Icon



I have a feeling it will be required again across the board. Back in June I felt there was a chance they would be back maskless but now with the news around the Delta variant - I am sure Cuomo will mandate masks again.

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