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Naturalmama
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Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
I don't want to quote as it is getting long, but wanted to respond to the above poster. I do not find anything suspicious about Michigan flipping to Biden overnight. The race in MI was always very tight, it was very easy for it to go back and forth. Biden always had the lead in Wisconsin, and Trump still has the lead in GA, NC, and PA.
I admit I am not super brushed up on my politics, but why would ballots being dropped off be seen as strange? So many people voted early and absentee.
I guess I just see people take any kind of info and run with it before fact checking. Like the false claim being spread that Wisconsin had more votes than registered voters. That is false.
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by Naturalmama
I don't want to quote as it is getting long, but wanted to respond to the above poster. I do not find anything suspicious about Michigan flipping to Biden overnight. The race in MI was always very tight, it was very easy for it to go back and forth. Biden always had the lead in Wisconsin, and Trump still has the lead in GA, NC, and PA.
I admit I am not super brushed up on my politics, but why would ballots being dropped off be seen as strange? So many people voted early and absentee.
I guess I just see people take any kind of info and run with it before fact checking. Like the false claim being spread that Wisconsin had more votes than registered voters. That is false.
Sorry but I find it suspicious but by following what has been going on for the last 4 years, not surprised at all.
Trump is suing WI so yes, something is off with WI also.
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GoldenRod
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
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138,000 dumped ONLY Biden votes in the middle of the night doesn't make you think twice?
No. The actual facts said that there WASN'T a dump. It WASN'T "only Biden votes". There's basically nothing accurate about that conspiracy theory.
What source told you that? Funny how when we all went to bed (some later as it was 3am when this happened as my kid went to bed right before then) Trump was ahead. Who is dropping off ballots in the middle of the night? I can see people working through the night counting them but they just appeared?
What VALID source told you that 138,000 ballots were dumped off? NUMEROUS sites confirmed that there was no such "dumping". It was a typo that was corrected, and Biden actually lost votes. The only source you posted is an extreme right-wing conspiracy theory site with no actual facts.
There were NO ballots dropped off in the middle of the night. NO ballots "just appeared".
It's just more extreme right-wing conspiracy theory trying to delegitimize our Democracy and instill distrust in our voting system. It's anti-American, and very dangerous.
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Diane
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
It makes me very nervous what will happen. All of you complain you want businesses to open up, but if Biden gets in, he will never let them open, he didnt even want schools to open. He will make you hide in your basements and be fearful. More people will be out of work, and let the welfare train begin, and taxes are going to go up. I hope I am wrong. Only time will tell.
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| Posted 11/5/20 7:32 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Naturalmama
I don't want to quote as it is getting long, but wanted to respond to the above poster. I do not find anything suspicious about Michigan flipping to Biden overnight. The race in MI was always very tight, it was very easy for it to go back and forth. Biden always had the lead in Wisconsin, and Trump still has the lead in GA, NC, and PA.
I admit I am not super brushed up on my politics, but why would ballots being dropped off be seen as strange? So many people voted early and absentee.
I guess I just see people take any kind of info and run with it before fact checking. Like the false claim being spread that Wisconsin had more votes than registered voters. That is false.
Sorry but I find it suspicious but by following what has been going on for the last 4 years, not surprised at all.
Trump is suing WI so yes, something is off with WI also.
Trump is also suing everyone that he raped and molested over the years, so just because he's suing doesn't mean something is off.
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| Posted 11/5/20 7:33 PM |
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Katareen
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Naturalmama
I don't want to quote as it is getting long, but wanted to respond to the above poster. I do not find anything suspicious about Michigan flipping to Biden overnight. The race in MI was always very tight, it was very easy for it to go back and forth. Biden always had the lead in Wisconsin, and Trump still has the lead in GA, NC, and PA.
I admit I am not super brushed up on my politics, but why would ballots being dropped off be seen as strange? So many people voted early and absentee.
I guess I just see people take any kind of info and run with it before fact checking. Like the false claim being spread that Wisconsin had more votes than registered voters. That is false.
Sorry but I find it suspicious but by following what has been going on for the last 4 years, not surprised at all.
Trump is suing WI so yes, something is off with WI also.
Yes he thinks it’s “off” because he lost. If he won New York would he contest that also?? Bc that would be suspicious.
He also tried to sue Pennsylvania in August and they shut him down. It won’t get anywhere.
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| Posted 11/5/20 7:41 PM |
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Katareen
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Naturalmama
I don't want to quote as it is getting long, but wanted to respond to the above poster. I do not find anything suspicious about Michigan flipping to Biden overnight. The race in MI was always very tight, it was very easy for it to go back and forth. Biden always had the lead in Wisconsin, and Trump still has the lead in GA, NC, and PA.
I admit I am not super brushed up on my politics, but why would ballots being dropped off be seen as strange? So many people voted early and absentee.
I guess I just see people take any kind of info and run with it before fact checking. Like the false claim being spread that Wisconsin had more votes than registered voters. That is false.
Sorry but I find it suspicious but by following what has been going on for the last 4 years, not surprised at all.
Trump is suing WI so yes, something is off with WI also.
Trump is also suing everyone that he raped and molested over the years, so just because he's suing doesn't mean something is off.
Oh something is definitely off...
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| Posted 11/5/20 7:42 PM |
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by valentinesbaby48
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138,000 dumped ONLY Biden votes in the middle of the night doesn't make you think twice?
No. The actual facts said that there WASN'T a dump. It WASN'T "only Biden votes". There's basically nothing accurate about that conspiracy theory.
What source told you that? Funny how when we all went to bed (some later as it was 3am when this happened as my kid went to bed right before then) Trump was ahead. Who is dropping off ballots in the middle of the night? I can see people working through the night counting them but they just appeared?
What VALID source told you that 138,000 ballots were dumped off? NUMEROUS sites confirmed that there was no such "dumping". It was a typo that was corrected, and Biden actually lost votes. The only source you posted is an extreme right-wing conspiracy theory site with no actual facts.
There were NO ballots dropped off in the middle of the night. NO ballots "just appeared".
It's just more extreme right-wing conspiracy theory trying to delegitimize our Democracy and instill distrust in our voting system. It's anti-American, and very dangerous.
Which VALID source did you read that?
Dumping, burning, changing votes, deceased ballots, all out there.
Observers are not allowed to be by tables, binoculars being taken away. Observers ARE allowed in many states. Why can't people observe then? Again, you don't find that odd and shady?
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| Posted 11/5/20 7:44 PM |
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by Diane
It makes me very nervous what will happen. All of you complain you want businesses to open up, but if Biden gets in, he will never let them open, he didnt even want schools to open. He will make you hide in your basements and be fearful. More people will be out of work, and let the welfare train begin, and taxes are going to go up. I hope I am wrong. Only time will tell.
THANK.YOU.
Also Biden voters did NOT vote for Biden, they voted for Harris. If that does not make you nervous then I don't know what would ever make you nervous.
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by Naturalmama
I don't want to quote as it is getting long, but wanted to respond to the above poster. I do not find anything suspicious about Michigan flipping to Biden overnight. The race in MI was always very tight, it was very easy for it to go back and forth. Biden always had the lead in Wisconsin, and Trump still has the lead in GA, NC, and PA.
I admit I am not super brushed up on my politics, but why would ballots being dropped off be seen as strange? So many people voted early and absentee.
I guess I just see people take any kind of info and run with it before fact checking. Like the false claim being spread that Wisconsin had more votes than registered voters. That is false.
Sorry but I find it suspicious but by following what has been going on for the last 4 years, not surprised at all.
Trump is suing WI so yes, something is off with WI also.
Trump is also suing everyone that he raped and molested over the years, so just because he's suing doesn't mean something is off.
Take a look at this IG
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHMVknWjaxy/
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| Posted 11/5/20 7:48 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
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138,000 dumped ONLY Biden votes in the middle of the night doesn't make you think twice?
No. The actual facts said that there WASN'T a dump. It WASN'T "only Biden votes". There's basically nothing accurate about that conspiracy theory.
What source told you that? Funny how when we all went to bed (some later as it was 3am when this happened as my kid went to bed right before then) Trump was ahead. Who is dropping off ballots in the middle of the night? I can see people working through the night counting them but they just appeared?
What VALID source told you that 138,000 ballots were dumped off? NUMEROUS sites confirmed that there was no such "dumping". It was a typo that was corrected, and Biden actually lost votes. The only source you posted is an extreme right-wing conspiracy theory site with no actual facts.
There were NO ballots dropped off in the middle of the night. NO ballots "just appeared".
It's just more extreme right-wing conspiracy theory trying to delegitimize our Democracy and instill distrust in our voting system. It's anti-American, and very dangerous.
Which VALID source did you read that?
Dumping, burning, changing votes, deceased ballots, all out there.
Observers are not allowed to be by tables, binoculars being taken away. Observers ARE allowed in many states. Why can't people observe then? Again, you don't find that odd and shady?
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/michigan-election-ballots-mail-absentee-hour-count-update/6161367002/
https://www.thatsnonsense.com/did-joe-biden-receive-100-of-a-mail-in-ballot-dump-in-michigan-fact-check/
I can give hundreds more. Your ONLY source was a tweet that was since deleted.....
Isn't that odd and shady?....
The ballot burning thing is also debunked....
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/business/ballot-burning-fake-video/index.html
Again, a GOP conspiracy theory.... isn't that odd and shady...
Weird pattern here. All of the "odd and shady" stuff "going on" is extreme right-wing anti-American anti-Democracy conspiracy theories that are easily debunked....
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| Posted 11/5/20 7:53 PM |
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
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138,000 dumped ONLY Biden votes in the middle of the night doesn't make you think twice?
No. The actual facts said that there WASN'T a dump. It WASN'T "only Biden votes". There's basically nothing accurate about that conspiracy theory.
What source told you that? Funny how when we all went to bed (some later as it was 3am when this happened as my kid went to bed right before then) Trump was ahead. Who is dropping off ballots in the middle of the night? I can see people working through the night counting them but they just appeared?
What VALID source told you that 138,000 ballots were dumped off? NUMEROUS sites confirmed that there was no such "dumping". It was a typo that was corrected, and Biden actually lost votes. The only source you posted is an extreme right-wing conspiracy theory site with no actual facts.
There were NO ballots dropped off in the middle of the night. NO ballots "just appeared".
It's just more extreme right-wing conspiracy theory trying to delegitimize our Democracy and instill distrust in our voting system. It's anti-American, and very dangerous.
Which VALID source did you read that?
Dumping, burning, changing votes, deceased ballots, all out there.
Observers are not allowed to be by tables, binoculars being taken away. Observers ARE allowed in many states. Why can't people observe then? Again, you don't find that odd and shady?
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/michigan-election-ballots-mail-absentee-hour-count-update/6161367002/
https://www.thatsnonsense.com/did-joe-biden-receive-100-of-a-mail-in-ballot-dump-in-michigan-fact-check/
I can give hundreds more. Your ONLY source was a tweet that was since deleted.....
Isn't that odd and shady?....
The ballot burning thing is also debunked....
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/business/ballot-burning-fake-video/index.html
Again, a GOP conspiracy theory.... isn't that odd and shady...
Weird pattern here. All of the "odd and shady" stuff "going on" is extreme right-wing anti-American anti-Democracy conspiracy theories that are easily debunked....
These are biased sites.
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Red Wave in Suffolk County also for Trump and other candidates that were running. Guess all those "idiots" parading actually went out to vote.
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| Posted 11/5/20 8:09 PM |
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MrsT809
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Red Wave in Suffolk County also for Trump and other candidates that were running. Guess all those "idiots" parading actually went out to vote.
Have they counted the absentee ballots yet?
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| Posted 11/5/20 8:23 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
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138,000 dumped ONLY Biden votes in the middle of the night doesn't make you think twice?
No. The actual facts said that there WASN'T a dump. It WASN'T "only Biden votes". There's basically nothing accurate about that conspiracy theory.
What source told you that? Funny how when we all went to bed (some later as it was 3am when this happened as my kid went to bed right before then) Trump was ahead. Who is dropping off ballots in the middle of the night? I can see people working through the night counting them but they just appeared?
What VALID source told you that 138,000 ballots were dumped off? NUMEROUS sites confirmed that there was no such "dumping". It was a typo that was corrected, and Biden actually lost votes. The only source you posted is an extreme right-wing conspiracy theory site with no actual facts.
There were NO ballots dropped off in the middle of the night. NO ballots "just appeared".
It's just more extreme right-wing conspiracy theory trying to delegitimize our Democracy and instill distrust in our voting system. It's anti-American, and very dangerous.
Which VALID source did you read that?
Dumping, burning, changing votes, deceased ballots, all out there.
Observers are not allowed to be by tables, binoculars being taken away. Observers ARE allowed in many states. Why can't people observe then? Again, you don't find that odd and shady?
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/michigan-election-ballots-mail-absentee-hour-count-update/6161367002/
https://www.thatsnonsense.com/did-joe-biden-receive-100-of-a-mail-in-ballot-dump-in-michigan-fact-check/
I can give hundreds more. Your ONLY source was a tweet that was since deleted.....
Isn't that odd and shady?....
The ballot burning thing is also debunked....
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/04/business/ballot-burning-fake-video/index.html
Again, a GOP conspiracy theory.... isn't that odd and shady...
Weird pattern here. All of the "odd and shady" stuff "going on" is extreme right-wing anti-American anti-Democracy conspiracy theories that are easily debunked....
These are biased sites.
And you posted an IG account. What’s your point? Why are you even back under a new name? Now that’s shady!
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| Posted 11/5/20 8:23 PM |
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seaside
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by seaside
Failure and inferiority only know how to rage, bully, and attack. It's sad.
If your ideas and tactics were deemed subpar and failed to carry the day, just bluster, bully, and attack. No grace. No class.
I had a good feeling about this week.
The "protestors" are not violent and the only violence overnight was a group in NYC that are against Trump.
They are doing nothing wrong and if you can protest over everything and anything and it is fine, what is wrong with doing this?
Trying to bust into a government process where you're not authorized to be is not ok. And I guess I was also talking about the viciousness that comes out around all of the science denial, heartless policies, etc. That we have all seen online for the past few weeks. All of the bullying comes from a place of defecit and weakness.
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Red Wave in Suffolk County also for Trump and other candidates that were running. Guess all those "idiots" parading actually went out to vote.
Have they counted the absentee ballots yet?
Since I don't work for the county, I have no clue but I am going by what is online and News12 this morning, which is a pretty liberal station that called it a red wave.
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by seaside
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by seaside
Failure and inferiority only know how to rage, bully, and attack. It's sad.
If your ideas and tactics were deemed subpar and failed to carry the day, just bluster, bully, and attack. No grace. No class.
I had a good feeling about this week.
The "protestors" are not violent and the only violence overnight was a group in NYC that are against Trump.
They are doing nothing wrong and if you can protest over everything and anything and it is fine, what is wrong with doing this?
Trying to bust into a government process where you're not authorized to be is not ok. And I guess I was also talking about the viciousness that comes out around all of the science denial, heartless policies, etc. That we have all seen online for the past few weeks. All of the bullying comes from a place of defecit and weakness.
Many places you are fully authorized to be in there. All protests that were on the news, all different channels, showed the ones that were violent, were ones against Trump.
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KarenK122
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Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
I think the whole vote counting process is shady. I do not understand why in a Federal Election that all the States do not have the same rules. It would make sense and avoid a lot of confusion if they did. I understand for local elections each state may vary but they should not be in a Presidential election. While, even though I am a Republican, I did vote Biden but I still think that there is a lot of issues that do not seem right with the counting. In PA, they were blocking Republican poll watchers from the count. That is not right. The votes are very close in many states and should be recounted since there is such an increase in mail in votes and like mentioned before, typos and inputting errors do occur. Either side, if losing would be requesting a recount. Yes, the GOP may be grasping at straws requesting investigations or recounts but the Democratic Party would be doing the same exact thing if the roles were reversed. If anyone things they would no is fooling themselves.
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It's truly sad how misinformed some people are. How an instagram bot or twitter troll can convince them of something easily but true journalists and a trustworthy institution with checks and balances and bipartisan support isn't legit to them... It's so scary. The past four years really opened up my eyes!
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by KarenK122
I think the whole vote counting process is shady. I do not understand why in a Federal Election that all the States do not have the same rules. It would make sense and avoid a lot of confusion if they did. I understand for local elections each state may vary but they should not be in a Presidential election. While, even though I am a Republican, I did vote Biden but I still think that there is a lot of issues that do not seem right with the counting. In PA, they were blocking Republican poll watchers from the count. That is not right. The votes are very close in many states and should be recounted since there is such an increase in mail in votes and like mentioned before, typos and inputting errors do occur. Either side, if losing would be requesting a recount. Yes, the GOP may be grasping at straws requesting investigations or recounts but the Democratic Party would be doing the same exact thing if the roles were reversed. If anyone things they would no is fooling themselves.
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Katareen
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Red Wave in Suffolk County also for Trump and other candidates that were running. Guess all those "idiots" parading actually went out to vote.
I also went out to vote but didn’t spend every Saturday driving around Long Island beeping my horn like a lunatic with a trump cardboard cut out sticking through my sunroof.
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itsbabytime
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
I want to preface this by saying - I’m not a political person and rarely follow the news etc. However, this election is really not sitting well with me and making me so uncomfortable about the democratic process. There is something very shady and unsettling about a candidate winning an entire state solely because of absentee mail in ballots. I go to sleep and the news outlets report Trump has a state and then you wake up and because of one million envelopes, Biden now does. I’m not saying it’s definitely not legit but it certainly doesn’t feel right. Maybe going forward they can find a better way to do this.
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
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Posted by valentinesbaby48
Red Wave in Suffolk County also for Trump and other candidates that were running. Guess all those "idiots" parading actually went out to vote.
I also went out to vote but didn’t spend every Saturday driving around Long Island beeping my horn like a lunatic with a trump cardboard cut out sticking through my sunroof.
You could have sat in a parking lot and beeped your horn like a lunatic for Biden too
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Re: Who's nervous for tomorrow's outcome?
Posted by itsbabytime
I want to preface this by saying - I’m not a political person and rarely follow the news etc. However, this election is really not sitting well with me and making me so uncomfortable about the democratic process. There is something very shady and unsettling about a candidate winning an entire state solely because of absentee mail in ballots. I go to sleep and the news outlets report Trump has a state and then you wake up and because of one million envelopes, Biden now does. I’m not saying it’s definitely not legit but it certainly doesn’t feel right. Maybe going forward they can find a better way to do this.
My entire point of my posts that I have been shot down (probably because it is me and not anyone else on here).
This is 2020 and there is no reason with the amount of technology and intelligent people in this country why we can't have voting as a smooth process.
If you don't see a problem with all of this happening, you are hiding your head and being very naïve IMO.
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