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nrthshgrl
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
I can't even believe this is an option. I'm stilll getting over the "doesn't feel like letting her dog out" statement. Part of having a dog is housebreaking the dog. Ew. Ew. Ew. Don't worry about chocolate on the couch because the dog pees on it all of the time??
Yes I would tell her it smelled. And since I have a very poor sense of smell, I'd say "If I can smell it, it is strong. You need to do something."
I don't know how any of this is even remotely acceptable.
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GioiaMia
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by Jenn627
I would totally tell my friends if their homes stunk. I wouldn't beat around the bush either.
In defense of your friend:
I'm sure it just "tinkles" on the couch. I'm bet the dog doesn't flat out do it's business there.
I don't think she's irresponsible either. I can SO see letting the dog pee in the unfinished basement. Once you go to re-do it - you clean it and Zinnser prime that floor and you're good to go. I am not fazed by people's cleaning habits though... I've seen it all. I've had many an animal in my lifetime and once they get to that age, sometimes they go wherever. A diaper can only do so much (there's that sneaky tail, needing a little hole in the diaper, whoops, there goes some doods). And you don't want to put the dog or cat down b/c the vet says they're not in any pain, and they still eat and drink OK.... So - it's really not that bad. At least not to me. It's not like the dog is peeing on the kitchen table.
I like Ophelia's suggestion. It sounds like a perfect way to say it without being judgemental.
Just because someone has an unfinished basement - doesnt mean they are just about to get around to finishing it LOL
we are never going to finish my basement - and to me, it is part of the house and we clean it once a week like the rest of the house except we use bleach to make it EXTRA clean. . .
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by melbalalala
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WAIT, did I just read that correctly??? She said the dog pees on her COUCH all the time?!?!?!??????? Ok, I have a dog and love dogs, but letting them pee on the basement floor is  and peeing on the couch?!?
it's a little dog (a jack russell terrier, I think?) and is easily excitable and has accidents all the time.
I'm not defending the dog, because I'm definitely not it's biggest fan 
I've never really had a dog so I have NO idea what normal dog behavior/accidents are like.
My dog is half jack russell and half another type of terrier (but she's 40 lbs). I can understand if it's difficult for her to take the dogs out constantly, etc. But that's what wee wee pads were made for. We trained our dog for that specific reason - we live in an apartment building, my DH and I work weird hours sometimes, and it was hard for us to put her on a specific pee/poop schedule. So when we can't take her out, she knows where to go.
I have family members that have let their dogs pee on their home's floor. Guess what, no matter how much you clean, the smell doesn't go away. They would have to use a special cleanser like Nature's Miracle to get the smell out. For an accident, which ok, that can happen, then you really have to clean with something like Nature's Miracle or else you're not getting the smell out AND the dog will still smell where he/she peed and will keep peeing there. So it serves two purposes.
I don't think it's normal behavior to let the dog pee inside the home all the time. But that's just me. I would really let her know about the smell (honestly, maybe she doesn't smell it!) and then suggest she clean her basement floor with an appropriate cleanser that will take the smell out completely (so the dog doesn't smell it anymore and thinks its ok to go there) and also to wee wee pad train the dog. It might take some time, but it would be more sanitary and her home would smell better.
PS: Someone else in my family has a "nervous pee-er" dog - she just kinda tinkles when she gets nervous. There's really nothing they can do about that except clean it up, so I understand. BUT that dog is not allowed on any furniture.
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| Posted 6/8/09 3:02 PM |
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Kara
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by nrthshgrl
I don't know how any of this is even remotely acceptable.
My sentiment exactlly.
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Jenn627
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by Kara
Posted by nrthshgrl
I don't know how any of this is even remotely acceptable.
My sentiment exactlly.
Acceptable to whom? The OP? Society?
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| Posted 6/8/09 3:14 PM |
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
since she has openly admitted (w/o shame) that they occasionally allow the dog to pee in the house, than i would most certainly be brutally honest.
this behavior is not only unsanitary it is totally irresponsible. an accident is one thing but to be accepting of and encouraging this behavior is inexcusable.
 
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| Posted 6/8/09 3:20 PM |
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by melbalalala
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eta: i hope i dont offend, bc you didnt ask this but learning of her little "time saver" i would NEVER be eating in that house - sorry. if that is acceptable who knows what else is?
 You definitely didn't offend me, that's for sure. I didn't even think of it that way... which is odd because I'm a huge germ freak.
At one point, I got a little chocolate on her gorgeous couch and she said "don't worry about it, the dog pees on the couch all the time".
It FLOORS me because she is all about keeping up appearances and has a beauitfully decorated home.. yet that doesn't seem crazy to her.
I worry she'll blame me to the fact that I'm not a "dog person". (I don't dislike dogs, I just don't want to own one)
her dogs pee on the couch and she is ok with that
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| Posted 6/8/09 3:24 PM |
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by Jenn627
Posted by Kara
Posted by nrthshgrl
I don't know how any of this is even remotely acceptable.
My sentiment exactlly.
Acceptable to whom? The OP? Society?
barb is stating that this behavior (dog allowed to pee in house and on furnishing) is not acceptable behavior of a pet and home owner and that the offenders should not be accepting of this behavior.
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by Jenn627
Posted by Kara
Posted by nrthshgrl
I don't know how any of this is even remotely acceptable.
My sentiment exactlly.
Acceptable to whom? The OP? Society?
i vote for society, and myself, as a normal human being
to the OP - yes, i would tell her. and best friend or not, i would find myself looking for an excuse not to visit her home.
it's one thing if the dog has accidents. small dogs need to go out more often and shoud be trained to use we we pads if they can't go out - but most dogs have the occasional accident.
but for the dog to pee on the couch all the time? and for her to LET the dog pee in the basement because she can't or won't let the dog out? gross!
is she trying to train the dog?
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| Posted 6/8/09 3:25 PM |
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melbalalala
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
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Posted by melbalalala
it's a little dog (a jack russell terrier, I think?) and is easily excitable and has accidents all the time.
I'm not defending the dog, because I'm definitely not it's biggest fan
I've never really had a dog so I have NO idea what normal dog behavior/accidents are like.
That is different than just letting it pee because you don't want to let it out... Is she letting it pee in the basement because she doesn't feel like letting her outside or is she having accidents down there because she's excited?
Honestly, I'm not sure. Could be a little bit of both. She knows I'm not a huge fan of her dog, so we really don't talk about it much.
But really the issue at hand here is whether or not to tell her her house smells like pee. Hoping to stick to that topic.
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headoverheels
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by melbalalala
But really the issue at hand here is whether or not to tell her her house smells like pee. Hoping to stick to that topic.
i understand you feeling that way... but i truly feel like that question cannot be limited to smell. at this point, it's a hygiene issue.
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
I would tell her. Yeah, it might be embarrassing, but not so much because you guys are close. What if someone who she didn't know very well came over and noticed the smell? It's better for her to avoid that type of embarrassment, even if it's a hard thing to tell her.
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Kara
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by Jenn627
Posted by Kara
Posted by nrthshgrl
I don't know how any of this is even remotely acceptable.
My sentiment exactlly.
Acceptable to whom? The OP? Society?
I can't see how it is acceptable to ANYONE that a dog has to pee inside the house, with no wee wee pad, because the owner "doesn't feel like" letting the dog outside. I don't gather from this post that this is an older dog that cannot hold its bladder - I gather exactly what was said -- Sometimes they "don't feel like letter her out" so they just let her urinate on the basement floor. I'm still not sure why the fact that the basement is unfinished has anything to do with it. It's still indoors and still part of the house. It's not an appropriate place for a dog to be urinating on a regular basis.
I also have no idea why it would be acceptable to anyone to have a house that smells like dog urine just because you don't feel like letting your dog out all the time. If you don't feel like providing wee wee pads or letting your dog out (or hiring someone to let your dog out) often enough, you should probably re-think having a dog... I get that accidents happen - I am far from a prissy girly girl. I'm a hands-on animal owner who has no problem getting dirty, but I certainly draw the line at letting my healthy pets urinate on my floor because I don't feel like letting them out. When I "don't feel" like doing what needs to be done for my pets, I do it anyway or arrange to have it done because that is the commitment I made to the animals when I got them. THAT is what being a responsible pet owner is all about.
I take pride in my home and pride in my pets and their care. Am I perfect? Nope. Is my house always spotless? No, far from it. Do I have time to clean all the time, pick up all the time, etc.? No, I don't. But I keep it in good repair, I keep it reasonably neat and clean (even though it's "lived in" for sure), and I wouldn't dream of choosing to let it smell like dog urine. If there is a time I cannot give my animals the attention they need, then I arrange for someone to take care of them while I am unable.
So yes, I stand by my statement that I can't imagine how anyone finds this behavior acceptable.
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| Posted 6/8/09 3:29 PM |
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JessInCA
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
I would find a way to tell her. If it were my house that smelled, I would want to know. And I would hope that by telling her, she'd start letting the dog out, because I can't even begin to understand how one would willingly LET their dog pee in ANY part of the house.
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by melbalalala
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Posted by melbalalala
it's a little dog (a jack russell terrier, I think?) and is easily excitable and has accidents all the time.
I'm not defending the dog, because I'm definitely not it's biggest fan
I've never really had a dog so I have NO idea what normal dog behavior/accidents are like.
That is different than just letting it pee because you don't want to let it out... Is she letting it pee in the basement because she doesn't feel like letting her outside or is she having accidents down there because she's excited?
Honestly, I'm not sure. Could be a little bit of both. She knows I'm not a huge fan of her dog, so we really don't talk about it much.
But really the issue at hand here is whether or not to tell her her house smells like pee. Hoping to stick to that topic.
Yes, you should. If she openly lets the dog pee in basement on purpose, then I doubt she'll be offended or even surprised to learn that her house smells like dog urine...
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melbalalala
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
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But really the issue at hand here is whether or not to tell her her house smells like pee. Hoping to stick to that topic.
i understand you feeling that way... but i truly feel like that question cannot be limited to smell. at this point, it's a hygiene issue.
ok. I agree, dog pee is definitely unhygenic. And it's gross.
I think the overwhelming majority of people have said to tell her, so I will.
Thanks everyone.
Now ya'll can debate this topic as much as you want for the rest of the day. Glad I could provide something intelligent for people to discuss. 
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| Posted 6/8/09 3:32 PM |
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
My friends will tell you I'm pretty blunt. I'm not sure I would tell a friend that, but I would want a friend to tell me.
We had to housetrain our dog when we brought him home and he did have a few accidents - less than 5 - in the house, on the carpet. We immediately treated with Resolve and (to my knowledge) you would never know. That's on the main floor.
I don't know how the smell of urine in an unfinished basement would be that strong that you could smell it in the main living area though. There might be a bigger issue, maybe the dog is submissive peeing more than she's letting on. I've known people with dogs that had a submissive peeing problem and it was corrected, by the way. No reason to deal with it, if it can be resolved. 
FTR, I have an unfinished basement and wouldn't dream of allowing my dog to relieve himself there, for any reason.
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Honestly, I think you'd be telling her something she already knows. And chances are, you telling her won't change her having her dog pee in the house (eww.).
You can't tell her how to live and how to take care of her home, but you can certainly choose not to go over there and being that she's your BFF, tell her that her house reeks and that you'll meet her out or at your house.
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
eww if she knew and still does it thats gross. maybe mention it to her again and play dumb like she couldnt possibly know that it stunk that bad. I have a cat and I would want to know if you could tell as soon as you walked in!
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Posted by melbalalala
At one point, I got a little chocolate on her gorgeous couch and she said "don't worry about it, the dog pees on the couch all the time".
I wouldn't be able to tell her about the pee smell in her house because after this, I wouldn't visit her again. This is absolutely disgusting. To be so nonchalant about it?!?
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Jenn627
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
missed the part about not feeling like letting the dog out...  I am reading too fast.
I see you decided to tell her - good luck!!!
eta: I was wondering why everyone was getting so worked up - I could feel the disgust through my screen...
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
I would kill my friend if she didn't tell me. I would want to know if my house smelled especially if it smelled like dog pee.
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| Posted 6/8/09 4:38 PM |
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
I told one of my best friends. When I walked in her house smelled like her dog. Its a horrible smell.
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
Well if she lets her dog pee on the couch and in the basement, I really doubt she cares if her house smells like a urinal. Gross. I have been to smelly, dirty houses, and I've never went back. I think you either have to get a clothes pin for your nose or just stay away 
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Re: Would you tell a really good friend that her house smelled bad?
i would absolutely tell her considering she TOLD you that she LETS the dog pee in the house...
i wouldn't feel embarrassed to say anything because she already said something to you.
I know you know this, but.... this is so gross. why would someone let their dog pee IN their house on a regular basis? IMO, and I am not a pet lover, but if you can't take care of an animal's basic needs, then don't get a pet...
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