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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by ladybug8
Posted by jilliibabii
I grew up in a bar- it's definitely an Irish thing. We actually held our Irish step dancing classes for the parade in the bar on Sundays afternoons.
lol-I was going to mention this! In Ireland it was a different vibe-it would be normal to see kids in a bar (even a bar bar with no restaurant).
my experience as well.
which is why I'd love to move to Dublin.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Yep, it's definitely commonplace in Irish culture. I sat at the bar all the time as a wee little one.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by TreAnt427
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Not my chair, not my problem.
LIKE. 
TG someone got it!!!!!!!
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| Posted 1/26/11 11:20 AM |
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
I see no issue with it and as a parent would expect they may hear some colorful things. If it got too crazy, I'd move across the room.. I don't get why people are so uptight.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
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Posted by BJandDan
I can understand your discomfort. It's a bar. You weren't there with kids. I don't blame you. I don't want to have to watch my words when I'm in an adult environment which a bar is.
It wouldn't bother me (especially since they are probably just waiting for a table) other than the fact of watching what I say within ear shot of a child. I can have a bad mouth 
See, as a parent, I figure if I choose to sit my kid in an adult environment, he is going to hear what he is going to hear - you shouldn't have to censor yourself. He's probably heard worse around certain family members visiting my house.
I don't think it's a big deal if they are just waiting for a table. They aren't taking up the seats pounding shirley temples all night long.
I actually saw this recently and thought it was very cute - the restaurant bar was not crowded at all and the kids were so excited to sit at the bar with mom and dad.
I know what you are saying. But I would still have the guilt factor. However, I love kids, and I'm the crazy lady that is always smiling and making faces at the babies and such.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
I don't know-at Olive Garden or other family type restaurants? I don't see the big deal at all. They have drinks, so I don't see an issue.
At a really nice restaurant-as long as they are behaved, no problem-though I'm only shelling out that kind of money on date night so you won't see my kids there.
At a club? That's weird.
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| Posted 1/26/11 11:56 AM |
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Doesn't bother me if the kids are behaving. If I'm sitting at a bar I'm usually there to relax.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Didn't your parents ever let you sit at the bar?
It's like a special occasion fun thing.
I'm all for it.
It's a restaurant bar... not a bar-bar.
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| Posted 1/26/11 12:15 PM |
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
I don't think anything in the moment... I'm usually paying attention to the people I'm with moreso than others around me.
However - giving it thought now - I disagree that we should include children in as many adult-oriented activities as we can. I think that's where entitlement comes from. I'm from the mindset "know your place".
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
as long as I had a seat I wouldnt' care.
I brought my one year old to miller ale house to watch the game with DH and we were at the bar. If soemone needed a seat at the bar.. I would hold John b/c he shouldn't take up a seat but we have a great time. No problem at all with it....there's no smoking anymore so why not.....
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by Jenn627
I'm from the mindset "know your place".
see to me this phrase means to respect elders and behave.
not sit over there in the vestibule by the door b/c adults can't handle being around you.
I don't take it literally I guess.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Jenn627
I'm from the mindset "know your place".
see to me this phrase means to respect elders and behave.
not sit over there in the vestibule by the door b/c adults can't handle being around you.
I don't take it literally I guess.
 
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| Posted 1/26/11 12:32 PM |
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by ~Colleen~
Posted by bluemoon
[...] but I think it was absolutely wonderful of the parents to bring the children to the bar and get them a drink and make them feel included and from what I read, they were not causing a rucus.
I feel parents should include their children more adult oriented activities.. its just good for all of us in the long run.
ITA, especially with the part in bold.
I agree too as it makes them more social people and not so sheltered that they do not know how to act in public and are shocked and frightened at the least little thing that happens. Plus it was a restaurant, and all of us including the OP I am sure, has had to wait for a table once or twice. What should the parents have done left the restaurant because of a wait time? It has been freezing outside. Plus the children were well behaved so I see no reason they couldn't be there for a little while. By the way my children are now men and have been in that same situation and have grown to be wonderful, good citizens. One has even served in Iraq. So being at the bar for a short term will not make or break how they will turn out later in life. JMO
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by Jenn627
I don't think anything in the moment... I'm usually paying attention to the people I'm with moreso than others around me.
However - giving it thought now - I disagree that we should include children in as many adult-oriented activities as we can. I think that's where entitlement comes from. I'm from the mindset "know your place".
entitlement to what? learning how to behave in various settings? being exposed to settings other than gymboree or the library? I'm not sure I understand what you mean - especially the "know your place" mindset. It's not like they walked to the restaurant themselves, their parents brought them there...therefore that was their place.
I guess it's akin to the "seen but not heard" mindset and it makes me cringe, honestly.
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| Posted 1/26/11 1:13 PM |
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by AngnShaun
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If it's a busy night and I'm a patron who walks in and wants to sit at the bar, I'd have a problem with it, not because they're kids, but because they're just sitting there not really drinking and taking up a seat.
If it's like an afternoon lunch kinda thing, when things are slower, then I wouldn't care at all.
im not saying your opinion is wrong... but is it really a huge problem to stand... idk what restaurant this was but i doubt their wait was more than a half hour...
im sure people would have a problem being at the bar with a 3 & 5 year old running around... at least in the seat they arent bothering anyone...
Also, they actually DID get drinks, just not alcoholic drinks. I don't drink, so does that mean I shouldn't be able to sit at a bar? What if I'm pregnant?
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Hmmm if it was empty then sure I don't see a problem....its super cute.
But if it was packed and people are pushing their way to the bar area, and spilling things, being drunk ,and loud...I wouldn't have a kid anywhere near that so I'd probably just wait somewhere else.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by BJandDan
I can understand your discomfort. It's a bar. You weren't there with kids. I don't blame you. I don't want to have to watch my words when I'm in an adult environment which a bar is.
There are rules and laws about them sitting there, but it changes since it is part restaurant. I don't know exactly what they are.
Exactly. I wouldn't have my kids near BJ with her mouth.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by MrsS6510
My parents always let me sit with them at a bar while we were waiting for the rest of our party to arrive. Same thing - I would sit there with my shirley temple 
same here. I dont see it as a big deal.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by ~Colleen~
entitlement to what? learning how to behave in various settings? being exposed to settings other than gymboree or the library? I'm not sure I understand what you mean - especially the "know your place" mindset. It's not like they walked to the restaurant themselves, their parents brought them there...therefore that was their place.
I guess it's akin to the "seen but not heard" mindset and it makes me cringe, honestly.
Entitlement meaning that they should be privy to adult activity/gossip/etc.
I think that kids should be treated as kids - not mini-adults.
I DON'T care if I see a kid at the bar b/c I'm usually to involved with my own business.
After giving it some thought though - I don't think that kids should be treated like mini-adults. Because they're not.
Like I said - I don't give it a second thought when I'm in public b/c unless they're acting like banshees - I generally mind my business. This thread caused me to think about it.
So do I think it's appropriate? No. Do I care? No.
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| Posted 1/26/11 1:58 PM |
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Maybe I missed it, but did the OP say which resturaunt they were at? Now I am curious.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
I don't a child yet, so I can say this while I'm still counted under the CF umbrella..
This past weekend, DH and I went for sushi at semi nice place, and we noticed a little girl, no more than 7 eating sushi with chopsticks!! I'm sure she learned from her parents going to restaurants. She handled it so, well and I was so impressed. How many 7 year olds will actually eat sushi without making a face? I don't know any.. not one! So maybe this whole idea of "knowing your place" in society is kind of backfiring on us.
Many of us CFers have this sense of entitlement of having a child free zone when they go out.. and I only see that here.. everywhere else in the world, children are welcomed into the fold, and as a result are more mature because of it. I understand that we must treat a child like a child, but part of growing up is to learn how to act and behave in social settings, and how else to do that but to actually put them right into it.
JMO.. 
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by bluemoon
I don't a child yet, so I can say this while I'm still counted under the CF umbrella..
This past weekend, DH and I went for sushi at semi nice place, and we noticed a little girl, no more than 7 eating sushi with chopsticks!! I'm sure she learned from her parents going to restaurants. She handled it so, well and I was so impressed. How many 7 year olds will actually eat sushi without making a face? I don't know any.. not one! So maybe this whole idea of "knowing your place" in society is kind of backfiring on us.
Many of us CFers have this sense of entitlement of having a child free zone when they go out.. and I only see that here.. everywhere else in the world, children are welcomed into the fold, and as a result are more mature because of it. I understand that we must treat a child like a child, but part of growing up is to learn how to act and behave in social settings, and how else to do that but to actually put them right into it.
JMO..
i act like a 7 year old when faced with eating sushi... i actually had to spit a piece out because i almost puked...
and i couldnt agree more with your 2nd paragraph
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As long as they weren't doing Irish Car Bombs, I wouldn't think twice. Kids get antsy waiting. That is a really good idea. Trust me, I would rather they sit nicely at the bar drinking their Shirley Temples than running around screaming and crawling under the tables.
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by bluemoon
I don't a child yet, so I can say this while I'm still counted under the CF umbrella..
This past weekend, DH and I went for sushi at semi nice place, and we noticed a little girl, no more than 7 eating sushi with chopsticks!! I'm sure she learned from her parents going to restaurants. She handled it so, well and I was so impressed. How many 7 year olds will actually eat sushi without making a face? I don't know any.. not one! So maybe this whole idea of "knowing your place" in society is kind of backfiring on us.
Many of us CFers have this sense of entitlement of having a child free zone when they go out.. and I only see that here.. everywhere else in the world, children are welcomed into the fold, and as a result are more mature because of it. I understand that we must treat a child like a child, but part of growing up is to learn how to act and behave in social settings, and how else to do that but to actually put them right into it.
JMO..
Very true. My nieces were raised from the beginning going to nice restaurants. They eat everything and they act so nicely at restaurants. Once my DD is old enough to understand we will do the same.
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Linda1003
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Re: Young children sitting at the bar.....
Posted by bluemoon
I don't a child yet, so I can say this while I'm still counted under the CF umbrella..
This past weekend, DH and I went for sushi at semi nice place, and we noticed a little girl, no more than 7 eating sushi with chopsticks!! I'm sure she learned from her parents going to restaurants. She handled it so, well and I was so impressed. How many 7 year olds will actually eat sushi without making a face? I don't know any.. not one! So maybe this whole idea of "knowing your place" in society is kind of backfiring on us.
Many of us CFers have this sense of entitlement of having a child free zone when they go out.. and I only see that here.. everywhere else in the world, children are welcomed into the fold, and as a result are more mature because of it. I understand that we must treat a child like a child, but part of growing up is to learn how to act and behave in social settings, and how else to do that but to actually put them right into it.
JMO..
LOve your 2nd paragraph.. sooo true!!
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