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Sassyz75
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Chicken pox vaccine spin off
I was wondering why everyone is so against the chicken pox vaccine?
I had chicken pox at 16 and i have a lot of scars on my face from it. I wish there was a vaccine around. Maybe it would have prevented it or maybe lessened the severity.
I am 35 and still so unhappy with my skin. I wish it were smooth but it isnt.
I know a lot of people think chicken pox is no big deal- maybe cause you had it when young so it wasnt severe or you dont remember having it at all.
I remember having it bad. It was awful. I wouldnt want anyone to go thru that or deal with the insecurities from scars.
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
im with you. i thought having a vaccine for it is a great idea. i vaccinated DS at 12 months.
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katiebug
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
I am completely against it to a certain extent. If DS does not naturally contract it by the time he is a teen I will get the vaccine.
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life. This is not the case for the vaccine. They have no idea how long it lasts, so there will be an epidemic of adult chicken pox in the next 10 to 15 years. When you get it as an adult it is much more severe.
For me, I would LOVE for DS to get it when he is a small child. I need to find myself a chicken pox party.
Also, every pediatrician I have spoken to about this vaccine hates it.
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| Posted 1/23/11 9:45 PM |
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Its a live vaccine, and it wears off, the disease is just annoying not deadly for children
I'm not against it, I'm more on the fence with it. For some reason or another, no on in my family has ever gotten it, even after being exposed. I don't know, but I wish some scientist would study us.
I've gotten the vaccine myself, and it doesn't stick. Whenever they test my antibodies I just don't make any of them for it. They tell me it just wears off, but I really think some weird thing with my genetics and this virus.
Its everyone on my mom's side, she's got 5 brothers and sisters, none of their kids in the U.S. ever got it. She grew up where chicken pox wasn't around.
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by katiebug
I am completely against it to a certain extent. If DS does not naturally contract it by the time he is a teen I will get the vaccine.
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life. This is not the case for the vaccine. They have no idea how long it lasts, so there will be an epidemic of adult chicken pox in the next 10 to 15 years. When you get it as an adult it is much more severe.
For me, I would LOVE for DS to get it when he is a small child. I need to find myself a chicken pox party.
Also, every pediatrician I have spoken to about this vaccine hates it.
How do you plan on enrolling him in school without it? It's required for NY schools....
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katiebug
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by OrganicMama
Posted by katiebug
I am completely against it to a certain extent. If DS does not naturally contract it by the time he is a teen I will get the vaccine.
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life. This is not the case for the vaccine. They have no idea how long it lasts, so there will be an epidemic of adult chicken pox in the next 10 to 15 years. When you get it as an adult it is much more severe.
For me, I would LOVE for DS to get it when he is a small child. I need to find myself a chicken pox party.
Also, every pediatrician I have spoken to about this vaccine hates it.
How do you plan on enrolling him in school without it? It's required for NY schools....
This is what I thought, but Christine said it wasn't on the list of vaccines for R. I need to look into it. And I need to find a kid with Chicken Pox for E to hug 
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
I was 8 or 9 when I got it
I had the vaccination. Didn't matter much.
Gave it my older brother too.
Wished I could have skipped it a little longer for my daughter.
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by katiebug
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life.
I had chicken pox in elementary school (I must have been in kindergarten or first grade) and was told that because I was so young when I had it that I could be at risk for shingles.
Can you share where you got your information because I'd love to read it...and I mean that seriously...not to go against what you are saying.
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katiebug
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by katiebug
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life.
I had chicken pox in elementary school (I must have been in kindergarten or first grade) and was told that because I was so young when I had it that I could be at risk for shingles.
Can you share where you got your information because I'd love to read it...and I mean that seriously...not to go against what you are saying.
I have never heard that if you get chicken pox young you are at more risk of contracting shingles. Anyone who has had Chicken pox is at risk of contracting Shingles, bit it usually happens to people with compromised immune systems. You cannot contract shingles from someone with shingles, but you can contract chickenpox from someone who has had shingles. I believe most of the time they have no idea why shingles springs up in people.
If it makes you feel any better, my older brother had chickenpox at the age of 2. No one ever mention shingles to him, and he has been around tons of people with chicken pox and has never had a problem 
I should have clarified you are immune to chickenpox, not to shingles.
If you still want links I can get them for you.
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labonnevie
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by katiebug
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by katiebug
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life.
I had chicken pox in elementary school (I must have been in kindergarten or first grade) and was told that because I was so young when I had it that I could be at risk for shingles.
Can you share where you got your information because I'd love to read it...and I mean that seriously...not to go against what you are saying.
I have never heard that if you get chicken pox young you are at more risk of contracting shingles. Anyone who has had Chicken pox is at risk of contracting Shingles, bit it usually happens to people with compromised immune systems. You cannot contract shingles from someone with shingles, but you can contract chickenpox from someone who has had shingles. I believe most of the time they have no idea why shingles springs up in people.
If it makes you feel any better, my older brother had chickenpox at the age of 2. No one ever mention shingles to him, and he has been around tons of people with chicken pox and has never had a problem
I should have clarified you are immune to chickenpox, not to shingles.
If you still want links I can get them for you.
I thought if you DIDN'T get chicken pox you were susceptile to shingles. None the less, this is the ONLY vaccine I plan on delaying, and only until I have to. But I plan on finding a chicken pox party with Katiebug and having DD hug E. 
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I am against this vaccine because I witnessed my friend's DS go into seizures as a result of it. It was the scariest thing. THANK GOD he is okay. The doctors advised her had it happened while everyone was asleep, the episode could have turned into a tragedy.
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katiebug
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by labonnevie
Posted by katiebug
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by katiebug
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life.
I had chicken pox in elementary school (I must have been in kindergarten or first grade) and was told that because I was so young when I had it that I could be at risk for shingles.
Can you share where you got your information because I'd love to read it...and I mean that seriously...not to go against what you are saying.
I have never heard that if you get chicken pox young you are at more risk of contracting shingles. Anyone who has had Chicken pox is at risk of contracting Shingles, bit it usually happens to people with compromised immune systems. You cannot contract shingles from someone with shingles, but you can contract chickenpox from someone who has had shingles. I believe most of the time they have no idea why shingles springs up in people.
If it makes you feel any better, my older brother had chickenpox at the age of 2. No one ever mention shingles to him, and he has been around tons of people with chicken pox and has never had a problem
I should have clarified you are immune to chickenpox, not to shingles.
If you still want links I can get them for you.
I thought if you DIDN'T get chicken pox you were susceptile to shingles. None the less, this is the ONLY vaccine I plan on delaying, and only until I have to. But I plan on finding a chicken pox party with Katiebug and having DD hug E.
Nope. If you have chickenpox you get shingles. shingles
Maybe we need to put an ad on craigslist for chicken pox party
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Wish I would've known there was a demand for a chicken pox party - DS had them in November when he was 11 months old. One of his daycare classmates got them from her cousin in England.
It was tough to see him covered in pox - but, he didn't itch that much. There were a few tough days though where he couldn't get comfy and we didn't sleep for a week.
As for the vaccine - when I told people DS had chicken pox, they said it was better off as opposed to the vaccine. I had heard from numerous people that there has been a rise of teenagers with shingles because they were vaccinated for chicken pox when they were young.
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by katiebug
I am completely against it to a certain extent. If DS does not naturally contract it by the time he is a teen I will get the vaccine.
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life. This is not the case for the vaccine. They have no idea how long it lasts, so there will be an epidemic of adult chicken pox in the next 10 to 15 years. When you get it as an adult it is much more severe.
ITA. I had it at 8. I was itchy and miserable for a few days, and then was fine. My mother caught it from me, but she was in her thirties, and was very ill for a long time.
If I give DD the shot, the immunity doesn't last. She could plausibly be protected as a child, and contract it as a young adult, when it's more serious.
I plan on hunting for a chicken pox party for DD.
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Diane
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by katiebug
I am completely against it to a certain extent. If DS does not naturally contract it by the time he is a teen I will get the vaccine.
I don't like the vaccine because it is a harmless childhood illness, and when contracted naturally you are protected for life. This is not the case for the vaccine. They have no idea how long it lasts, so there will be an epidemic of adult chicken pox in the next 10 to 15 years. When you get it as an adult it is much more severe.
For me, I would LOVE for DS to get it when he is a small child. I need to find myself a chicken pox party.
Also, every pediatrician I have spoken to about this vaccine hates it.
I agree.
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maymama
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
i will vaccinate against chicken pox. reason being, I had it at 6 months therefore, I can get it again. I do not want to risk exposing my son if I get it...
also, if he brings it home from school and I get it, it can be very serious for an adult.
maybe im being selfish  
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Kelly9904
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
While I like the more permenant solution of having chicken pox and then being immune.
Chicken pox is not a "harmless" childhood illness.
My brother was hospitalized due to what started as chicken pox, but because his immune system was down became much worse.
So DS was vaccinated.
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by Kelly9904
While I like the more permenant solution of having chicken pox and then being immune.
Chicken pox is not a "harmless" childhood illness.
My brother was hospitalized due to what started as chicken pox, but because his immune system was down became much worse.
So DS was vaccinated.
I have to say that the above is correct I had a friend in elementary school who had severe complications from CP so you might want to ask some of the MDs or NPs on the boards what their experience has been but there are some people who have severe complications.
BTW having it does not guarantee immunity. I had it at age 5. I had a total of 5 spots. For many years - (they didn't test me until I was thinking of getting pregnant and asked to be tested) my PCP and OB told me there was a very large chance that I would not have immunity.
What you choose is your choice - but I am 99.9% sure I saw on NYS's website that it was required for K-12 and I thought for nursery school - but that I'm not sure about.
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katiebug
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by Lillykat
Posted by Kelly9904
While I like the more permenant solution of having chicken pox and then being immune.
Chicken pox is not a "harmless" childhood illness.
My brother was hospitalized due to what started as chicken pox, but because his immune system was down became much worse.
So DS was vaccinated.
I have to say that the above is correct I had a friend in elementary school who had severe complications from CP so you might want to ask some of the MDs or NPs on the boards what their experience has been but there are some people who have severe complications.
BTW having it does not guarantee immunity. I had it at age 5. I had a total of 5 spots. For many years - (they didn't test me until I was thinking of getting pregnant and asked to be tested) my PCP and OB told me there was a very large chance that I would not have immunity.
What you choose is your choice - but I am 99.9% sure I saw on NYS's website that it was required for K-12 and I thought for nursery school - but that I'm not sure about.
You can have complications from a cold. It happens, but for the most part 95% of the time you are immune and it is a harmless childhood disease.
I too had very few spots, so it has crossed my mind that I could contract it again.
I thought it was required but a mother told me it wasn't. I will check it out when DS is of age if he does not contract it by then.
ETS: I found this on a site about chickenpox:
A mild case of chickenpox produces immunity to varicella as does a moderate or severe case. A child with a reliable history of chickenpox does not need to receive varicella vaccine. However, if there is any doubt that the mild illness really was chickenpox, it is best to vaccinate the child. There is no harm in vaccinating a child who is already immune.
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I totally agree with you. At first I questioned the chicken pox shot, but gave it to my DC. Then recently my friend posted the following on facebook:
"might be provocative now, but highly recommends all of you parents out there who haven't immunized your kids against chicken pox to do it! Today, on New years eve, we had our third - and hopefully the last - doctor's visit because of complications from a chicken pox infection a month ago..."
Now I am glad I vaccinated my DC. I had a mild case of chicken pox so maybe that is why I questioned it. But others are not so lucky.
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
its like the flu, you suffer through it and walk away with your body beating it. Now in cases where you could have a weaken immunity then of course I completely understand getting it.
i do not believe in getting/taking any medicines unless its absolutely necessary. I don't even get anti-biotics when sick - i let it clear itself out and if i am not better in 7 days then i will get medical treatment. I found since doing this I get sick a hell of lot less often. When we have children the same thing will happen unless the child is in pain/feverish for more then a day where i feel there is a danger. My parents took me the dr with every sniffle and for years my immunity was shot and when i finally got very sick with an infection nothing was working on me. if i keep taking "shots" "anti-biotic" and/or anything else dr's want to give me I would be probably dead thanks to a massive infection that i received from oddly enough a injection site!
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Lillykat
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by katiebug
You can have complications from a cold. It happens, but for the most part 95% of the time you are immune and it is a harmless childhood disease.
I too had very few spots, so it has crossed my mind that I could contract it again.
I thought it was required but a mother told me it wasn't. I will check it out when DS is of age if he does not contract it by then.
ETS: I found this on a site about chickenpox:
A mild case of chickenpox produces immunity to varicella as does a moderate or severe case. A child with a reliable history of chickenpox does not need to receive varicella vaccine. However, if there is any doubt that the mild illness really was chickenpox, it is best to vaccinate the child. There is no harm in vaccinating a child who is already immune.
I can tell you that having a light dose can mean you are still not immune. Apparently I have no idea on the numbers (sorry not an MD) but I can tell you that I have 2 friends who had light cases and after titers were found to not be immune.
As far as comparing to a cold I'm not a doctor or a nurse - so maybe they can chime in but I don't think it isn't quite the same - most people who have complications for a common cold do so b.c they didn't take care of themselves (i.e. had a cough that turned into a bacterial infection and they put off going to the doctor so they ended up with pneumonia.) - whereas the people who have complications from CP are often healthy in other ways (whenever you have immunosuppred people anything they get will be worse I'm speaking about the average healthy person). I can say that the child I knew was very healthy with no pre-existing conditions who had severe issues.
Actually what I'm curious to hear about are some real life experiences from people who see these things regularly (nurses in the hospital, peds etc).
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
if you have had CP, you are susceptible to shingles AT ANY AGE.
CP is a virus. It is with you once you have had it. Shingles is that virus, expressed in a different way.
Two of my siblings have had CP and have also had shingles.
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katiebug
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by Lillykat
Posted by katiebug
You can have complications from a cold. It happens, but for the most part 95% of the time you are immune and it is a harmless childhood disease.
I too had very few spots, so it has crossed my mind that I could contract it again.
I thought it was required but a mother told me it wasn't. I will check it out when DS is of age if he does not contract it by then.
ETS: I found this on a site about chickenpox:
A mild case of chickenpox produces immunity to varicella as does a moderate or severe case. A child with a reliable history of chickenpox does not need to receive varicella vaccine. However, if there is any doubt that the mild illness really was chickenpox, it is best to vaccinate the child. There is no harm in vaccinating a child who is already immune.
I can tell you that having a light dose can mean you are still not immune. Apparently I have no idea on the numbers (sorry not an MD) but I can tell you that I have 2 friends who had light cases and after titers were found to not be immune.
As far as comparing to a cold I'm not a doctor or a nurse - so maybe they can chime in but I don't think it isn't quite the same - most people who have complications for a common cold do so b.c they didn't take care of themselves (i.e. had a cough that turned into a bacterial infection and they put off going to the doctor so they ended up with pneumonia.) - whereas the people who have complications from CP are often healthy in other ways (whenever you have immunosuppred people anything they get will be worse I'm speaking about the average healthy person). I can say that the child I knew was very healthy with no pre-existing conditions who had severe issues.
Actually what I'm curious to hear about are some real life experiences from people who see these things regularly (nurses in the hospital, peds etc).
I honestly thought the same as you with mild cases. I have a doctor appointment this week and I am going ask about it. But maybe your friends didn't actually have chickenpox? I am really curious about this.
And as for my cold vs cp, I was simply pointing out that you can have complications from anything. And I would much prefer my child having chickenpox when the chance of having complications is much less, then when they are teenagers for adults. That is WHY I want them to get chickenpox for better immunization then the vaccination offers.
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Sassyz75
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Re: Chicken pox vaccine spin off
Posted by katiebug
Posted by Lillykat
Posted by katiebug
You can have complications from a cold. It happens, but for the most part 95% of the time you are immune and it is a harmless childhood disease.
I too had very few spots, so it has crossed my mind that I could contract it again.
I thought it was required but a mother told me it wasn't. I will check it out when DS is of age if he does not contract it by then.
ETS: I found this on a site about chickenpox:
A mild case of chickenpox produces immunity to varicella as does a moderate or severe case. A child with a reliable history of chickenpox does not need to receive varicella vaccine. However, if there is any doubt that the mild illness really was chickenpox, it is best to vaccinate the child. There is no harm in vaccinating a child who is already immune.
I can tell you that having a light dose can mean you are still not immune. Apparently I have no idea on the numbers (sorry not an MD) but I can tell you that I have 2 friends who had light cases and after titers were found to not be immune.
As far as comparing to a cold I'm not a doctor or a nurse - so maybe they can chime in but I don't think it isn't quite the same - most people who have complications for a common cold do so b.c they didn't take care of themselves (i.e. had a cough that turned into a bacterial infection and they put off going to the doctor so they ended up with pneumonia.) - whereas the people who have complications from CP are often healthy in other ways (whenever you have immunosuppred people anything they get will be worse I'm speaking about the average healthy person). I can say that the child I knew was very healthy with no pre-existing conditions who had severe issues.
Actually what I'm curious to hear about are some real life experiences from people who see these things regularly (nurses in the hospital, peds etc).
I honestly thought the same as you with mild cases. I have a doctor appointment this week and I am going ask about it. But maybe your friends didn't actually have chickenpox? I am really curious about this.
And as for my cold vs cp, I was simply pointing out that you can have complications from anything. And I would much prefer my child having chickenpox when the chance of having complications is much less, then when they are teenagers for adults. That is WHY I want them to get chickenpox for better immunization then the vaccination offers.
I got chicken pox at 16.. i never had a light case... I was next to my cousin at 5 when she had chicken pox- I was in school w/ people that had it- I never, ever got it- not until 16.... and it was terrible..
so just b/c you don't vaccinate- that doesn't mean your child is going to get chicken pox at a young age and get a mild case.
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