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Janice
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Re: could be controversial

Posted by kelleherkm

Do you guys remember years ago when welfare used to give you more $$ for each kid? I think people were having more kids just to get more $. At least they stopped that.




I don't know if people would have kids just to increase their checks. I believe that is a cycle of having nothing. And having kids and babies are the only joy and gift that these people get. I think it is something for them to look forward to in a life that seems so bleek.

I in no way understand this concept, just a thought on why people on welfare keep having babies.

Posted 6/9/05 3:00 PM
 
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Redhead
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Re: could be controversial

i just know myself...
I just cannot bring a child into this world knowing that i am struggling to keep myself above board.
I couldn't bear to not be able to give my child certain things that I feel they should have.
If i am having a hard time taking care of myself...how can i take care of a baby?

Posted 6/9/05 3:03 PM
 

Redhead
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Re: could be controversial

ETA....i feel even stronger about this after seeing a TRUE LIFE episode on MTV...
FRIGHTENING how poor people can get!

Posted 6/9/05 3:04 PM
 

Janice
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Posted by Redhead

i just know myself...
I just cannot bring a child into this world knowing that i am struggling to keep myself above board.
I couldn't bear to not be able to give my child certain things that I feel they should have.
If i am having a hard time taking care of myself...how can i take care of a baby?



I don't know how people do it. I guess I am too much of a worrier. I could use some of their carefree feelings on baby making because I can tell I am going to be one of those where there is never a right time.

Posted 6/9/05 3:05 PM
 

Janice
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Posted by Redhead

ETA....i feel even stronger about this after seeing a TRUE LIFE episode on MTV...
FRIGHTENING how poor people can get!



that show was sooooooo good. I felt so bad for that kid who was being tutored to be able to enlist.

Posted 6/9/05 3:06 PM
 

Redhead
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Re: could be controversial

Posted by Janice

Posted by Redhead

i just know myself...
I just cannot bring a child into this world knowing that i am struggling to keep myself above board.
I couldn't bear to not be able to give my child certain things that I feel they should have.
If i am having a hard time taking care of myself...how can i take care of a baby?



I don't know how people do it. I guess I am too much of a worrier. I could use some of their carefree feelings on baby making because I can tell I am going to be one of those where there is never a right time.



I am the same way...too much of a worrier...

Posted 6/9/05 3:06 PM
 

Redhead
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Posted by Janice

Posted by Redhead

ETA....i feel even stronger about this after seeing a TRUE LIFE episode on MTV...
FRIGHTENING how poor people can get!



that show was sooooooo good. I felt so bad for that kid who was being tutored to be able to enlist.


YES! and the living conditions...

it frightens me that that actually happens...
and how people think...that it COULDN"T happen.

Posted 6/9/05 3:07 PM
 

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Re: could be controversial

Posted by Redhead

ETA....i feel even stronger about this after seeing a TRUE LIFE episode on MTV...
FRIGHTENING how poor people can get!



OMG I saw that too Chat Icon
those poor people, especially the family that got evicted and the kids wanted to join the Army. I felt so bad for them.

The poor white girl who kept losing her money yet still had $$$ for pot - I dunno that was kind of lame...she shouldnt be buying pot if she is broke!!

The other couple - the black guy and spanish girl who had to move out too - I mean how broke were they really? She has a car and a cell phone!!

Put the 1st family, OMG I wanted to write them a check then and there!

Posted 6/9/05 3:08 PM
 

Jax430
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Re: could be controversial

Posted by Redhead

i just know myself...
I just cannot bring a child into this world knowing that i am struggling to keep myself above board.
I couldn't bear to not be able to give my child certain things that I feel they should have.
If i am having a hard time taking care of myself...how can i take care of a baby?



I completely agree with you. I would love to TTC right now. I really want to be a mother, but there is no way we can afford a child right now, and I would feel guilty if we tried to have one.

Posted 6/9/05 3:08 PM
 

Lichi
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Posted by Janice
IMO it isn't anybody's business what an adult's finances are. I would rather a child be loved by poor parents then neglected by wealthy ones. Being poor is a s u c k y way to go thru life, but people survive it.



well said.

Posted 6/9/05 3:09 PM
 

MrsJ
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I know that we can afford children now. We have our house and we have our cars and a boat. We want kids. I dont think we'll ever have enough $ in the bank but we will be OK.

Plus I told DH that at the first sign of struggling financially we are selling the boat and selling the house and getting out of NY because I refuse to raise my kids living pay check to paycheck. That is enough to wreck a marriage and it's not how I want to live or have my kids live.

Posted 6/9/05 3:10 PM
 

Lichi
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Re: could be controversial

I also feel that there's always a reason not to have a baby... it's up to the couple to decide for or against those reasons.

Message edited 6/9/2005 3:12:24 PM.

Posted 6/9/05 3:11 PM
 

Janice
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Posted by kelleherkm

That is enough to wreck a marriage and it's not how I want to live or have my kids live.



that is exactly how I feel. We could swing living in NY, but to be paycheck to paycheck and that extra stess, no way

Posted 6/9/05 3:12 PM
 

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IMO and i know it cuz i experienced it first hand

money means nothing
if youy have a stable family and love to give, that's all that matters

Posted 6/9/05 3:12 PM
 

Lichi
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Re: could be controversial

Posted by CaptainCharisma424
money means nothing
if youy have a stable family and love to give, that's all that matters



I agree.

Posted 6/9/05 3:13 PM
 

Ambersmom
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Re: could be controversial

Posted by kelleherkm

Posted by unbelievable

do you think it is Peoples (man & woman) right to have a child if they want regardless if they are finacially stable, insurance etc.



Is it their right? Yes
Do I think it's right? that's a while 'nother story



I agree.

Posted 6/9/05 3:14 PM
 

QuoteTheRaven424
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i mean, we were't poor but we were far from rich and my upbringing was awesome

i have wealthy relatives and their lives are in shambles

Posted 6/9/05 3:14 PM
 

unknown1
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Re: could be controversial

see this is my view if i am not finacially stable how am i to care properly for a child does my child get by on only love ?? I don't see how it is my right to reproduce jus t because I can .... I love children but i don't have them based on the fact that I can

Posted 6/9/05 3:17 PM
 

unknown1
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Re: could be controversial

ok i see everyones point i just think that is is carless and that is why our welfare system is out of control.

Posted 6/9/05 3:18 PM
 

june262004
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Re: could be controversial

Posted by CaptainCharisma424

i mean, we were't poor but we were far from rich and my upbringing was awesome

i have wealthy relatives and their lives are in shambles



I COULD HAVE JUST WROTE THE SAME THING!

Posted 6/9/05 3:25 PM
 

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Personally, I couldn't do it. It's one thing not to provide your kids with extras like designer clothes and sports team stuff, but quite another not to be able to feed them and house them.

Posted 6/9/05 3:26 PM
 

june262004
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But sometimes you have enough money and then something terrible happens you get hurt and can't work then what?

Posted 6/9/05 3:26 PM
 

QuoteTheRaven424
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Posted by june262004

Posted by CaptainCharisma424

i mean, we were't poor but we were far from rich and my upbringing was awesome

i have wealthy relatives and their lives are in shambles



I COULD HAVE JUST WROTE THE SAME THING!



then why didn't ya? Chat Icon

E-C-DUB

Posted 6/9/05 3:27 PM
 

Tany
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Re: could be controversial

sometimes things happen, I know personally we werent ready financially but Alia was very welcomed and we are maintaining. It's not easy, but it can be done. We are making both efforts to make a better life for all of us.

Posted 6/9/05 3:27 PM
 

unknown1
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Re: could be controversial

Posted by june262004

But sometimes you have enough money and then something terrible happens you get hurt and can't work then what?



That is a different story I mean willingly knowing you are not financially stable nor have the resources

Posted 6/9/05 3:28 PM
 
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