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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by anonttcer
I have a question- didn't the autopsy test for diabetes? Weren't her blood sugar levels tested? Anyone know the results of that?
Yes. According to the ME's report she didn't have diabetes, a tooth absess or any other medical condition.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by anonttcer
I have a question- didn't the autopsy test for diabetes? Weren't her blood sugar levels tested? Anyone know the results of that?
Yes. According to the ME's report she didn't have diabetes, a tooth absess or any other medical condition.
So what the heck is all this talk about her being diabetic?
Please. They should give it a rest...
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:24 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by anonttcer
So what the heck is all this talk about her being diabetic?
Please. They should give it a rest...
Her husband is basically disputing the findings (or lack thereof in this case) of the ME's report.
ETA: I sort of feel bad for this guy (the husband) b/c there's some serious denial going on.
To go to the length of having his wife's body exhumed to perform an entirely new autopsy to prove the first one was wrong (which I don't believe was wrong) is pretty extreme.
IMO I don't think they're going to find anything to the contrary of the original report.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
After the press conference the attorney said that she may have drank the alcohol to bring her blood sugar up - to self-medicate!! I feel like smacking him. As an attorney, you should never speak unless you know what you are speaking about. I actually feel bad for Daniel Schuler - someone gave him really bad advice hiring Dominic Barbara. What a tool!
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:27 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by anonttcer
So what the heck is all this talk about her being diabetic?
Please. They should give it a rest...
Her husband is basically disputing the findings (or lack thereof in this case) of the ME's report.
Yeah, sure. The ME was wrong.
They make huge mistakes like this all the time. She really had NO alcohol in her system, no pot either. He found that by mistake. But he MISSED her diabetes, her tooth abscess, the flesh eating bacteria on her leg, and the stroke she suffered that cuased her to drink, smoke and drive.
Right.
These azzhats should shut their mouths...they are only making their case worse!
They should all just
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:28 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by mrsej
After the press conference the attorney said that she may have drank the alcohol to bring her blood sugar up - to self-medicate!! I feel like smacking him. As an attorney, you should never speak unless you know what you are speaking about. I actually feel bad for Daniel Schuler - someone gave him really bad advice hiring Dominic Barbara. What a tool!
Yeah she didn't have a candy bar or an OJ handy so she downed an entire bottle of vodka... that should help bring the blood sugar up!
What a freakin' D-bag this lawyer is!
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:30 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by anonttcer
I have a question- didn't the autopsy test for diabetes? Weren't her blood sugar levels tested? Anyone know the results of that?
I know they originally tested her eyeballs b/c of fluid or something they found in there and thought it was sugar..and it turned out to be alcohol.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
I definitely think she and her DH had a fight of some sort.
I'm wondering if she didn't normally drink vodka. I don't know how different alcohols effect you guys personally, but I know for myself, I have a different reaction with vodka. It takes a while for it to hit me and then it hits me like a wall, whereas with wine, I feel it immediately (usually by the 2nd sip). Maybe she didn't get a quick buzz so she kept downing more vodka and then all of a sudden she's over the edge.
*I'm not making excuses, I just keep trying to figure out why or how someone could do this.  *
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:38 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by anonttcer
Posted by mrsej
After the press conference the attorney said that she may have drank the alcohol to bring her blood sugar up - to self-medicate!! I feel like smacking him. As an attorney, you should never speak unless you know what you are speaking about. I actually feel bad for Daniel Schuler - someone gave him really bad advice hiring Dominic Barbara. What a tool!
Yeah she didn't have a candy bar or an OJ handy so she downed an entire bottle of vodka... that should help bring the blood sugar up!
What a freakin' D-bag this lawyer is!
That lawyer is a real winner considering he originally said that Daniel Schuler lost his NEPHEWS and then said nieces  He should really get his facts straight!
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:40 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by nicrae
Posted by anonttcer
Posted by mrsej
After the press conference the attorney said that she may have drank the alcohol to bring her blood sugar up - to self-medicate!! I feel like smacking him. As an attorney, you should never speak unless you know what you are speaking about. I actually feel bad for Daniel Schuler - someone gave him really bad advice hiring Dominic Barbara. What a tool!
Yeah she didn't have a candy bar or an OJ handy so she downed an entire bottle of vodka... that should help bring the blood sugar up!
What a freakin' D-bag this lawyer is!
That lawyer is a real winner considering he originally said that Daniel Schuler lost his NEPHEWS and then said nieces He should really get his facts straight!
OMG!!!
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Had she survived the crash that killed so many and the BAC came back just as it did---NO ONE would be coming up with these health, medical, BS excuses for her.
She would be in jail.
It's not diabetes, or stroke, or pregnancy, or because it was Sunday that led to what happened.
She drank and drove.
She put the bottle knowingly to her mouth and drank, not sips, gulps.
She smoked weed with children in the car--not on a Friday night in her home. In her car. On a Sunday morning, with a bottle of vodka next to her.
No excuses
No reasoning
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:55 PM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by jxnoscar
Had she survived the crash that killed some many and the BAC came back just as it did---NO ONE would be coming up with these health, medical, BS excuses for her.
She would be in jail.
It's not diabetes, or stroke, or pregnancy, or because it was Sunday that led to what happened.
She drank and drove.
She put the bottle knowingly to her mouth and drank, not sips, gulps.
She smoked weed with children in the car--not on a friday night in her home. In the car. On a sunday morning, with a bottle of vodka next to her.
No excuses
No reasoning
I completely agree.
There is absolutely NO excuse for what she did.
Period, end of story.
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:56 PM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by nicrae
That lawyer is a real winner considering he originally said that Daniel Schuler lost his NEPHEWS and then said nieces He should really get his facts straight!
That's horrible!  
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| Posted 8/6/09 3:57 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by jxnoscar
Had she survived the crash that killed so many and the BAC came back just as it did---NO ONE would be coming up with these health, medical, BS excuses for her.
She would be in jail.
It's not diabetes, or stroke, or pregnancy, or because it was Sunday that led to what happened.
She drank and drove.
She put the bottle knowingly to her mouth and drank, not sips, gulps.
She smoked weed with children in the car--not on a Friday night in her home. In her car. On a Sunday morning, with a bottle of vodka next to her.
No excuses
No reasoning
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| Posted 8/6/09 4:05 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by justme4u
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The little girls' mom must be dead inside. Imagine being married to your husband and HIS SISTER gets in a crash & kills ALL of your children. Then you find out she was drunk.
I think I would literally divorce him.
why would you divorce him? It isn't his fault at all.. can you imagine what he is going through too? If i loved my husband and God Forbid it was his sister that did this to our family, i would HATE his sister but not take it out on my DH.. we would go through this together, not place blame on eachother.
It would be a desired reaction to divorce, but knowing me, every time I looked at my husband, all I would see is his sister. And I'd still have to do holidays with his family, who, I might also blame. I don't think I could do it. I think I would leave & start my life all over again.
My husband's sister has done some crappy things to me and I find myself bringing it up in disagreements sometimes. But she didn't kill my kids.
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| Posted 8/6/09 4:05 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by carolinebn
Posted by justme4u
Posted by carolinebn
The little girls' mom must be dead inside. Imagine being married to your husband and HIS SISTER gets in a crash & kills ALL of your children. Then you find out she was drunk.
I think I would literally divorce him.
why would you divorce him? It isn't his fault at all.. can you imagine what he is going through too? If i loved my husband and God Forbid it was his sister that did this to our family, i would HATE his sister but not take it out on my DH.. we would go through this together, not place blame on eachother.
It would be a desired reaction to divorce, but knowing me, every time I looked at my husband, all I would see is his sister. And I'd still have to do holidays with his family, who, I might also blame. I don't think I could do it. I think I would leave & start my life all over again.
My husband's sister has done some crappy things to me and I find myself bringing it up in disagreements sometimes. But she didn't kill my kids.
Add the fact that he is defending his sister would bring me over the edge.
This is turning into a side show, the poor kids, I can't even being to imagine what the last hour of their life was like, the fear they must have had. And the boy that lived, he will surely be messed up for life because of others irresponsibility.
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| Posted 8/6/09 4:24 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Michelle
Add the fact that he is defending his sister would bring me over the edge.
I agree, I would have a VERY difficult time (if I were this SIL) reconciling what had happened to my kids and who was to blame.
Posted by Michelle
This is turning into a side show, the poor kids, I can't even being to imagine what the last hour of their life was like, the fear they must have had. And the boy that lived, he will surely be messed up for life because of others irresponsibility.
If he's lucky, he'll have no recollection of the entire ordeal.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Chatham-Chick
I definitely think she and her DH had a fight of some sort.
I've totally come to this conclusion as well. She left the campsite after having a fight or something with him and then was like Eff Him and just took it too far... Again, not making excuses..
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by anonttcer
Posted by mrsej
After the press conference the attorney said that she may have drank the alcohol to bring her blood sugar up - to self-medicate!! I feel like smacking him. As an attorney, you should never speak unless you know what you are speaking about. I actually feel bad for Daniel Schuler - someone gave him really bad advice hiring Dominic Barbara. What a tool!
Yeah she didn't have a candy bar or an OJ handy so she downed an entire bottle of vodka... that should help bring the blood sugar up!
What a freakin' D-bag this lawyer is!
Didn't they stop at McDonalds? There's enough sugar in a McFlurry or the Sweet Tea to give you an instant cavity...c'mon!!
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| Posted 8/6/09 4:54 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
i have 2 comments:
1. greenfreak, to answer your question, the ACT of smoking marijuana is not illegal. to posess, buy, or sell marijuana is. and of course if you are smoking it and a cop sees you witha joint in your hand, that's possession. however if it's just in your systems (and there were no aggravating factors, like driving, which of course is not true in this case) then the attorney is technically correct that it's not illegal.
2. seaside - i have my own opinions about smoking marijuana, but how is smoking when you have kids any different than drinking?
i mean, if you hire a babysitter and decide to smoke marijuana, or decide to drink wine and get drunk, i don't see the difference (besides, obviously, the fact that one is illegal and the other isn't, but i don't think that is what you were referring to).
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by nicrae
That lawyer is a real winner considering he originally said that Daniel Schuler lost his NEPHEWS and then said nieces He should really get his facts straight!
That's horrible!
what do you expect from Dominic Barbera? 
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| Posted 8/6/09 7:16 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Chatham-Chick
I'm wondering if she didn't normally drink vodka. I don't know how different alcohols effect you guys personally, but I know for myself, I have a different reaction with vodka. It takes a while for it to hit me and then it hits me like a wall, whereas with wine, I feel it immediately (usually by the 2nd sip). Maybe she didn't get a quick buzz so she kept downing more vodka and then all of a sudden she's over the edge.
*I'm not making excuses, I just keep trying to figure out why or how someone could do this. *
Good point...
This whole news conference reeks of an elaborate coverup.
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| Posted 8/6/09 7:29 PM |
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by headoverheels
i have 2 comments:
1. greenfreak, to answer your question, the ACT of smoking marijuana is not illegal. to posess, buy, or sell marijuana is. and of course if you are smoking it and a cop sees you witha joint in your hand, that's possession. however if it's just in your systems (and there were no aggravating factors, like driving, which of course is not true in this case) then the attorney is technically correct that it's not illegal.
2. seaside - i have my own opinions about smoking marijuana, but how is smoking when you have kids any different than drinking?
i mean, if you hire a babysitter and decide to smoke marijuana, or decide to drink wine and get drunk, i don't see the difference (besides, obviously, the fact that one is illegal and the other isn't, but i don't think that is what you were referring to).
It's a fair question; here's my opinion, which is, obviously, JMO.
1. Smoking pot means you're possessing pot, as was mentioned, which means that you're breaking the law either with your kids, or at least while you're a parent. This not only sets a bad example, but it means you could get arrested, unlike drinking.
2. Pot, unlike alcohol, from what I understand, can get in the air and affect those who are not using it, unlike alcohol.
3. I don't think it's ok to become affected by alcohol while with one's kids. (not a difference, but I did want to mention this) &
4. My understanding is that people do pot to alter themselves, at least to some extent, whereas you can, legally, have a sip of alcohol in front of your kids and not wind up altered.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by seaside
Posted by headoverheels
2. seaside - i have my own opinions about smoking marijuana, but how is smoking when you have kids any different than drinking?
i mean, if you hire a babysitter and decide to smoke marijuana, or decide to drink wine and get drunk, i don't see the difference (besides, obviously, the fact that one is illegal and the other isn't, but i don't think that is what you were referring to).
It's a fair question; here's my opinion, which is, obviously, JMO.
1. Smoking pot means you're possessing pot, as was mentioned, which means that you're breaking the law either with your kids, or at least while you're a parent. This not only sets a bad example, but it means you could get arrested, unlike drinking.
2. Pot, unlike alcohol, from what I understand, can get in the air and affect those who are not using it, unlike alcohol.
3. I don't think it's ok to become affected by alcohol while with one's kids. (not a difference, but I did want to mention this) &
4. My understanding is that people do pot to alter themselves, at least to some extent, whereas you can, legally, have a sip of alcohol in front of your kids and not wind up altered.
1. good point.
2. excellent point.
3. i personally don't agree with this - i would not get wasted, but if i am at a party with my kids, and either DH or i decides to be the DD, that means one of us will not drink at ALL, and someone is always responsible.
4. very true. i am not a pot smoker but i would assume that you can't smoke and not get high - whereas you CAN drink and not get buzzed/drunk.
thanks for clarifying! 
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by JessInCA
Posted by Chatham-Chick
I'm wondering if she didn't normally drink vodka. I don't know how different alcohols effect you guys personally, but I know for myself, I have a different reaction with vodka. It takes a while for it to hit me and then it hits me like a wall, whereas with wine, I feel it immediately (usually by the 2nd sip). Maybe she didn't get a quick buzz so she kept downing more vodka and then all of a sudden she's over the edge.
*I'm not making excuses, I just keep trying to figure out why or how someone could do this. *
Good point...
This whole news conference reeks of an elaborate coverup.
The attorney is a distraction.
What's next? Did the McDonald's employees put grain alcohol that she couldn't taste in her soda ? Did her stash of pot make its way into the minivan's ventilation system?
I also wonder why, in her one phone call of distress, she called her brother -- two hours away -- and not her husband, who depending on the version of the story, was either fishing or was in his truck on a nearby road.
My last conspiracy theory is that her brother suspected she was drunk but didn't use the word "drunk" in his call to the state troopers. If so, could he be considered an accomplice?
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