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mrsej
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
I am sure the missing pieces are important to the Bastardi/Longo family. How is it irrelevant to them?
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twiceasnice
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
I don't think that anyone has forgotten that. I think that is why people are upset and trying to find answers.
When everyone thought it was a true accident it was ok to show support and be sad and try to figure out how the accident happen. Now that it is ruled a homicide it people are passing judgment.
I think people are shocked, saddened and angry to find out that this was no accident. All along everyone felt sorry and hugged their own loved ones seeing how quickly one wrong turn could change your life. Now we all feel duped because that wrong turn she took LONG before she got on the road.
If ANYONE had an idea that she was high or drunk...with 5 children in her car I hope they are held accountable.
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| Posted 8/4/09 4:41 PM |
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skinny
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Do u think it's possible that she got wasted the night before and still had it in her system? It's definitely possible to wake up and still be drunk from the night before.
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Sweets13
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
anyone watch the news conference? interesting facts were confirmed. Her blood alcohol level was equivalent to 10 drinks, from the most recent hours.
ETA: same with her smoking marijuana..in the most recent hours.
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mrsej
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Sweets13
anyone watch the news conference? interesting facts were confirmed. Her blood alcohol level was equivalent to 10 drinks, in the most recent hours.
Here is the POst article - a vodka bottle was found in her vehiclehttp://www.nypost.com/seven/08042009/news/regionalnews/wrong_way_driver_was_drunk_and_high_182966.htm
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skew
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by mrsej
I am sure the missing pieces are important to the Bastardi/Longo family. How is it irrelevant to them?
although i agree that the answers are relevant in re:to closure but irrevelant in re: to the fact that NO amount of answers will EVER change the harsh reality that 7 lives were tragically lost.
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carolinebn
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
this keeps getting worse & worse....
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| Posted 8/4/09 4:52 PM |
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twiceasnice
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Thats what I was able to calculate. The article says she had 6 oz in her stomach not yet digested!!!!
State police also said Schuler smoked marijuana 15 minutes to an hour before the crash, meaning she was drunk and using drugs while with the kids.
So this drinking started in the a.m.!
Posted by twiceasnice
SO I found a police calculator for BAC (blood alcohol concentration)
I entered her as a weight of 140 lbs.
If she drank for 3 hours to get a a BAC of 0.19 she would have to drink 10 beers (or the equivalent).
"0.20 BAC: Feeling dazed/confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand/walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people have nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened."
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mrsej
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by skew
Posted by mrsej
I am sure the missing pieces are important to the Bastardi/Longo family. How is it irrelevant to them?
although i agree that the answers are relevant in re:to closure but irrevelant in re: to the fact that NO amount of answers will EVER change the harsh reality that 7 lives were tragically lost.
kwim?
I get what you are saying, but a member of the Bastardi family was just quoted as saying that they were at peace knowing it was just an accident, but now with these facts, they want answers. It was not an act of God, but murder. They want to know what happened. I totally agree that it is not going to change the loss of life, but the families are entitled and deserve to know what happened. If that was my family member that was killed, I would want to know how this happened. It is like telling the family member of someone who was shot - "listen, the facts aren't important, they are not going to bring your loved one back" - that would not sit well with anyone, nor should it.
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Stacey1403
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by mrsej
Posted by skew
I am sure the missing pieces are important to the Bastardi/Longo family. How is it irrelevant to them?
although i agree that the answers are relevant in re:to closure but irrevelant in re: to the fact that NO amount of answers will EVER change the harsh reality that 7 lives were tragically lost.
kwim?
I get what you are saying, but a member of the Bastardi family was just quoted as saying that they were at peace knowing it was just an accident, but now with these facts, they want answers. It was not an act of God, but murder. They want to know what happened. I totally agree that it is not going to change the loss of life, but the families are entitled and deserve to know what happened. If that was my family member that was killed, I would want to know how this happened. It is like telling the family member of someone who was shot - "listen, the facts aren't important, they are not going to bring your loved one back" - that would not sit well with anyone, nor should it.
Especially if other adults knowingly let her get into a car with 5 children for a long drive while she was intoxicated and high!!
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MrsSteflily
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
The post article made me sick to my stomach.
Smoking and drinking while taking care of / in the presence of 5 children is ....I can't even think of a word harsh enough.
 Those poor kids. Those poor men. The families left behind.
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anonttcer
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by MrsSteflily
The post article made me sick to my stomach.
Smoking and drinking while taking care of / in the presence of 5 children is ....I can't even think of a word harsh enough.
Those poor kids. Those poor men. The families left behind.
YEP! The article said she smoked 15 min to an hour before the crash- so she was smoking in the car- while driving- and with children in the car no less.
I wouldn't even smoke a CIGARETTE in a car with children.
What kind of a person was this?
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
I am the only one who first thought depression and suicide?
Especially now that a bottle was found in the car and she had called her brother before hand? And the smoking and drinking was recent -- like in the car as she was driving her family.
I don't know , like many of you said many missing pieces. The poor families, including the lone surivor that young boy.
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Janice
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
monster.
I have a couple of alcoholics in my family.
Based on that and the fact that while camping this summer, I witnessed two alcohol fueled fights on different camp sites...I totally think both the husband and wife were drinking. That seems to be the thing that goes on at night while camping.
With that said, my alcoholic family members while on vacation together will start drinking when the kids go to sleep straight through till the sun appears in the AM.
I am the overreacter, the one who has a kid in a bubble. It is known when we visit family that my children will never have sleepovers at select fam members homes. They will never get in a car with them. They will never be left alone with them.
I know many people in my family go with the flow, turn the other cheek. I would think that if you send your 3 kids on a camping trip with family, you know everything about them and have 100% trust in them. It doesn't sound like that could have happened here.
What those poor kids went through in that car before the crash is a nightmare.
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LSP2005
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
I have to say things just do not add up. There are way to many missing facts, but if her husband or brother or SIL knew what she was doing, they are JUST as guilty as she was and I hope that the family members of the woman who murdered the 3 men are taken for everything they are worth and then charged as accessories by the DA.
May the children and three men rest in peace.
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LSP2005
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by sirk1020
I am the only one who first thought depression and suicide?
Especially now that a bottle was found in the car and she had called her brother before hand? And the smoking and drinking was recent -- like in the car as she was driving her family.
I don't know , like many of you said many missing pieces. The poor families, including the lone surivor that young boy.
No, I thought of this too. I also want to know if anyone took out life insurance policies on her/the kids.
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dm24angel
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
I think the families and the victims ARE what everyone is thinking of and thats why everyone is so upset and angry and mad....BECAUSE of the losses, because of the families left behind. ALL which could have been avoided.
I cannot believe anyone can try to make an excuse here for her, at all...It amazes me.
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Jackie24
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
 I don't know what
to say about this. I hope these people find closure and peace in their lives.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by sirk1020
I am the only one who first thought depression and suicide?
That's what I keep thinking based on the amount of alcohol that wasn't digested/metabolized. It just sounds like she was drinking out of anger and with intentions. Even her erratic driving behavior sounds like she was angry.
If she had a drinking problem, especially to this extent, how would it go unnoticed??? And why would family members allows their kids to be in the same car with her if they knew she had a problem. BUT she clearly used marijuana since it's not something you can just pick up at any store, which also makes me wonder how much her husband knew. Usually when someone uses, their SO uses too. I find it hard to believe that she was leading a double life where she smokes pot and drank and her husband knew nothing about it.
I'm also wondering if the family isn't cooperating based on the press conference. When the lead investigator (I think that's what his title was who gave the press conference) was asked about the family cooperating, he paused for a bit and then stated that they have spoken with them, but because of the circumstances it's been difficult to speak with them at length and that they do intend to speak with family & friends further. If they were cooperating, I think he would have stated that and then proceeded to say that they need to speak at further length.
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Janice
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
people can be such enablers. I have witnessed it first hand.
allowing unspeakable situations to take place in order not to hurt anyone's feelings.
she might have been depressed and suicidal...but only a monster would bring innocent people down with her.
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heathergirl
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Janice
people can be such enablers. I have witnessed it first hand.
allowing unspeakable situations to take place in order not to hurt anyone's feelings.
she might have been depressed and suicidal...but only a monster would bring innocent people down with her.
Very true. And as horrific as this situation is, her mind could not have been stable...not saying that gets her off the hook by any means, but she was impaired mentally in some way that either fueled her to drink and smoke pot or perhaps her mental state was exacerbated by such.
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skew
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by dm24angel
I think the families and the victims ARE what everyone is thinking of and thats why everyone is so upset and angry and mad....BECAUSE of the losses, because of the families left behind. ALL which could have been avoided.
I cannot believe anyone can try to make an excuse here for her, at all...It amazes me.
who here is trying to make excuses for her?
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MrsRJP
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Wow what was going through her mind. Geez and with kids in the car no less. I wonder if her husband and brother knew and were covering. I highly doubt the she pulled over in the first place and wouldn't you know if soemone was drinking on the other end of the phone but the way they talk. Makes you go .
Those poor lil children and those 2 gentlemen did not have a chance at all because of this monster. I was going to go to the fundraiser but after this I don't think so. I want to make sure no one else in the family was involved.
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dm24angel
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by skew
Posted by dm24angel
I think the families and the victims ARE what everyone is thinking of and thats why everyone is so upset and angry and mad....BECAUSE of the losses, because of the families left behind. ALL which could have been avoided.
I cannot believe anyone can try to make an excuse here for her, at all...It amazes me.
who here is trying to make excuses for her?
It came out wrong...I meant that I keep hearing stories, well maybe she had a problem, maybe she was mental, she was an alcoholic, she had additional medications in her, all sorts of what if's and I just dont care. She killed innocent people and I don't care WHY she did it, just that she did and am just so sickened by this.
I didnt mean to imply on this specific thread.
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skew
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by skew
Posted by dm24angel
I think the families and the victims ARE what everyone is thinking of and thats why everyone is so upset and angry and mad....BECAUSE of the losses, because of the families left behind. ALL which could have been avoided.
I cannot believe anyone can try to make an excuse here for her, at all...It amazes me.
who here is trying to make excuses for her?
It came out wrong...I meant that I keep hearing stories, well maybe she had a problem, maybe she was mental, she was an alcoholic, she had additional medications in her, all sorts of what if's and I just dont care. She killed innocent people and I don't care WHY she did it, just that she did and am just so sickened by this.
I didnt mean to imply on this specific thread.
that's the point that i was trying to make as well. at the end of the day NONE of her how and why details matter. the point is this POS was drunk and high and killed 7 innocent people.
if others were in fact aware of her state then justice WILL be served but again NO AMOUNT of details is going to allow any of the loved ones a more restful sleep.
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