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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
The rate it takes to accummulate that kind of level is ALOT of alcohol in short period of time or ALOT MORE alcohol over a long period of time.
I don't know why, but I keep picturing her downing some hard liquor & smoking pot in the bathroom of the McDonalds or some kind of similar scenario.
We may never know these answers.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by carolinebn
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The little girls' mom must be dead inside. Imagine being married to your husband and HIS SISTER gets in a crash & kills ALL of your children. Then you find out she was drunk.
I think I would literally divorce him.
Why though???
I guess I could understand the friction it would cause a marriage but WHY is anyone to blame (right now, without knowing all the facts) besides the woman driving that car??
exactly - the friction. every time i looked at DH, I would see his sister. I think it would kill me. I wouldn't blame my husband, I would just need a change of scenery.
yeah  I can understand that...
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hazeleyes33
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by ml110
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Posted by hazeleyes33
Don't know what she said other than she didn't feel well and she couldn't see and then the daughter got on the phone.
What happened to the phone also? How did it end up on the ground?
I said that to someone yesterday - how strange that was. They said maybe it was in her lap and she got out of the car for something and it dropped. Although knowing what we know now, doesn't appear to be too hard to lose track of it in that state.
i almost think the BIL is lying about talking to her, maybe he was trying to cover up for her for some reason.
I think that the oldest daughter could see what was going on and was scared and used her aunts cell phone to call her dad. diane got mad at her for calling ( being impaired and all) and threw the phone out of the car. that probably why BIL called the police, too because he knew she was drunk/high, and not just sick.
Hmmm...very interesting...I could very well see this, her not calling him at all.
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hazeleyes33
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by greenfreak
The rate it takes to accummulate that kind of level is ALOT of alcohol in short period of time or ALOT MORE alcohol over a long period of time.
I don't know why, but I keep picturing her downing some hard liquor & smoking pot in the bathroom of the McDonalds or some kind of similar scenario.
We may never know these answers.
But what about the 5 yr. old who survived? Eventually they will be able to ask him, no?
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Who knows if she didn't put some liquor in her coffee cup or whatever. Bottom line this is so selfish and horrible.
I knew something sounded fishy when she called the brother and she never stopped. Did she even call him?
Was that a cover up?
I thought maybe the brother was trying to make it like she was sick but the truth was going to come out in the toxicology report.
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hazeleyes33
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by fabrichick
Who knows if she didn't put some liquor in her coffee cup or whatever. Bottom line this is so selfish and horrible.
I knew something sounded fishy when she called the brother and she never stopped. Did she even call him?
Was that a cover up?
I thought maybe the brother was trying to make it like she was sick but the truth was going to come out in the toxicology report.
I think you are both right with this. I bet SHE never called him. There are records though that someone called, right? I will have to look back at the story. The little girl might have called the father to tell him that the aunt was drunk and wasn't able to drive.
I think this has opened a WHOLE can of worms now for this family.
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That's SO sad..I recently went to my friend house and my friend looked high and she had a beer..Total not my thing. Never did drugs or dont drink.she was suppouseto drive me home.i did not want to get in her car or anyone that was their. SO I called my brother n came pick me up. i was scared. so i rather be safe then sorry..
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this whole story is just unreal and sickening, and obviously there is a lot of unknowns out there still, ie: what the husband and brother knew, when all this drinking took place,
i have not commented on this before because i always felt there was more to the story than what was being said,
i honestly was not that surprised to find out she was drunk
but i was totally disgusted by it, i can't believe she would be that drunk and drive with her children and her nieces,
i feel so bad for the brother and sil and for the families of the other 3 victims and for the boy that survived, and even for the husband, i don't know how much he knew and will not pass judgement on him as of yet but he has also suffered a great loss
i will say that i lived with someone who smoked a lot of pot yes i knew but what i didnt know what that he also had a cocaine problem, i really had no clue, i was naive about drugs so this is why i personally am holding off on any judgements of the husband right now
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by sweetie101
That's SO sad..I recently went to my friend house and my friend looked high and she had a beer..Total not my thing. Never did drugs or dont drink.she was suppouseto drive me home.i did not want to get in her car or anyone that was their. SO I called my brother n came pick me up. i was scared. so i rather be safe then sorry..
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Ambersmom
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
My take is that probably one of the older children got hold of her cellphone and called her Father (who in turn called the cops) to tell him what was going on. The aunt got mad/defensive and threw the phone out of the car. That's probably why she was driving aggressively. Lord only knows what kind of fear those poor children experienced at the hands of this selfish b!tch prior to their deaths
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by ml110
Posted by greenfreak
Posted by hazeleyes33
Don't know what she said other than she didn't feel well and she couldn't see and then the daughter got on the phone.
What happened to the phone also? How did it end up on the ground?
I said that to someone yesterday - how strange that was. They said maybe it was in her lap and she got out of the car for something and it dropped. Although knowing what we know now, doesn't appear to be too hard to lose track of it in that state.
i almost think the BIL is lying about talking to her, maybe he was trying to cover up for her for some reason.
I think that the oldest daughter could see what was going on and was scared and used her aunts cell phone to call her dad. diane got mad at her for calling ( being impaired and all) and threw the phone out of the car. that probably why BIL called the police, too because he knew she was drunk/high, and not just sick.
Hmmm...very interesting...I could very well see this, her not calling him at all.
I think the BIL did talk to her, noticed she was drunk/high, told her to pull over. Schuler probably said no and he threatened to call the cops. She threw her phone out the window so they wouldnt be able to trace her location. The BIL headed up towards her, called the cops and instead of saying she was drunk he said she wasn't feeling well. I read in an article that the police confirmed the BIL did call 911 and asked them to patrol the area she was last at. I believe they patroled up to 40 miles of the parkway.
Alot of stuff does not add up!
ETA: A person who truly didn't feel well, couldn't see and had 5 kids in the car would of listened to the person who said to pull over and wait for them!
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hazeleyes33
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Sweets13
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by ml110
Posted by greenfreak
Posted by hazeleyes33
Don't know what she said other than she didn't feel well and she couldn't see and then the daughter got on the phone.
What happened to the phone also? How did it end up on the ground?
I said that to someone yesterday - how strange that was. They said maybe it was in her lap and she got out of the car for something and it dropped. Although knowing what we know now, doesn't appear to be too hard to lose track of it in that state.
i almost think the BIL is lying about talking to her, maybe he was trying to cover up for her for some reason.
I think that the oldest daughter could see what was going on and was scared and used her aunts cell phone to call her dad. diane got mad at her for calling ( being impaired and all) and threw the phone out of the car. that probably why BIL called the police, too because he knew she was drunk/high, and not just sick.
Hmmm...very interesting...I could very well see this, her not calling him at all.
I think the BIL did talk to her, noticed she was drunk/high, told her to pull over. Schuler probably said no and he threatened to call the cops. She threw her phone out the window so they wouldnt be able to trace her location. The BIL headed up towards her, called the cops and instead of saying she was drunk he said she wasn't feeling well. I read in an article that the police confirmed the BIL did call 911 and asked them to patrol the area she was last at. I believe they patroled up to 40 miles of the parkway.
Alot of stuff does not add up!
EXACTLY!!
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Ambersmom
My take is that probably one of the older children got hold of her cellphone and called her Father (who in turn called the cops) to tell him what was going on. The aunt got mad/defensive and threw the phone out of the car. That's probably why she was driving aggressively. Lord only knows what kind of fear those poor children experienced at the hands of this selfish b!tch prior to their deaths
I agree with this
she could have started drinking when she got up and she might not have appeared drunk until after Mcdonalds...just a thought
I can have 2 or 3 glasses of wine before I even feel drunk to show it in my actions
but my BAL is going to be over the legal limit
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
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No it doesn't add up this is what I get from it:
9:30 they leave together (they are normal, campsite lady spoke to her and husband says she is in good health) he follows her on the road
10-10:30 - Mcdonalds (at this point she was normal according to employees)
Husband doesn't stop and continues. (time is approx because it is atthe beginning of the trip)
10:30- approx 1 - She was seen driving erratic on 17 and 87. Cutting people off and flashing headlights, driving in the grass.
1:00 - She pulls off after the Tappan Zee, calls her brother, Emma speaks to him (on the phone about 10 mintues). She is supposed to stay there but she leaves and leaves her phone.
1:15 - No incoming calls recieved from her cell phone
1:35 - Accident
1:42 - Brother is driving to Tarrytown and calls police (probably because she has answered her phone in 30 mintues).
- When contacted her husband was already home, trip takes approx 3 hours.
What doesn't add up is how the heck her blood level got to .19?
Was she REALLY drunk before Mcdonalds and no one noticed?
How many drinks does it take for that level?
EXACTLY what I was saying. HOW do you get THAT drunk in such little time AND be driving with 5 kids?
SO I found a police calculator for BAC (blood alcohol concentration)
I entered her as a weight of 140 lbs.
If she drank for 3 hours to get a a BAC of 0.19 she would have to drink 10 beers (or the equivalent).
"0.20 BAC: Feeling dazed/confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand/walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people have nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened."
I do not think a person who has this much alcohol in their body would go unnoticed.
That is ALOT of alcohol it drink in such LITTLE time. I don't believe it. The pot could still be in her system from awhile so you can't go by that.
Yeah I think she was plastered from the night before.
The rate it takes to accummulate that kind of level is ALOT of alcohol in short period of time or ALOT MORE alcohol over a long period of time. If she wasn't drinking in the car, then her BAC was greater then .19 at 9:30 a.m (it drops by .01 every 40 minutes) so it may have been more like .25 at that time. How can that go unnoticed? Someone is lying...
ABSOLUTELY someone is lying. If she was drinking the night before didn't someone see that? Even just her dh?
I think everyone is making an awful lot of assumptions and judgements based on not knowing all the facts..
This is a horrible tragedy, made even worse by knowing that she didn't have an accident caused by medical problems, but by willfully doing something irresponsible.
It's so easy for all of us to ask why certain actions were or weren't taken by everyone involved (the campground, her husband, the mcdonalds workers, her brother etc), and i'm sure the media is only fueling the fire by putting out little snippets of conflicting info. But right now, no one has the complete story.
I think it a little morbid for us all to be discussion what 'probably' happened. None of us know.
Let the police do their job and figure this out, and let the families grieve in peace.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Otherme
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by twiceasnice
No it doesn't add up this is what I get from it:
9:30 they leave together (they are normal, campsite lady spoke to her and husband says she is in good health) he follows her on the road
10-10:30 - Mcdonalds (at this point she was normal according to employees)
Husband doesn't stop and continues. (time is approx because it is atthe beginning of the trip)
10:30- approx 1 - She was seen driving erratic on 17 and 87. Cutting people off and flashing headlights, driving in the grass.
1:00 - She pulls off after the Tappan Zee, calls her brother, Emma speaks to him (on the phone about 10 mintues). She is supposed to stay there but she leaves and leaves her phone.
1:15 - No incoming calls recieved from her cell phone
1:35 - Accident
1:42 - Brother is driving to Tarrytown and calls police (probably because she has answered her phone in 30 mintues).
- When contacted her husband was already home, trip takes approx 3 hours.
What doesn't add up is how the heck her blood level got to .19?
Was she REALLY drunk before Mcdonalds and no one noticed?
How many drinks does it take for that level?
EXACTLY what I was saying. HOW do you get THAT drunk in such little time AND be driving with 5 kids?
SO I found a police calculator for BAC (blood alcohol concentration)
I entered her as a weight of 140 lbs.
If she drank for 3 hours to get a a BAC of 0.19 she would have to drink 10 beers (or the equivalent).
"0.20 BAC: Feeling dazed/confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand/walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people have nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened."
I do not think a person who has this much alcohol in their body would go unnoticed.
That is ALOT of alcohol it drink in such LITTLE time. I don't believe it. The pot could still be in her system from awhile so you can't go by that.
Yeah I think she was plastered from the night before.
The rate it takes to accummulate that kind of level is ALOT of alcohol in short period of time or ALOT MORE alcohol over a long period of time. If she wasn't drinking in the car, then her BAC was greater then .19 at 9:30 a.m (it drops by .01 every 40 minutes) so it may have been more like .25 at that time. How can that go unnoticed? Someone is lying...
ABSOLUTELY someone is lying. If she was drinking the night before didn't someone see that? Even just her dh?
I think everyone is making an awful lot of assumptions and judgements based on not knowing all the facts..
This is a horrible tragedy, made even worse by knowing that she didn't have an accident caused by medical problems, but by willfully doing something irresponsible.
It's so easy for all of us to ask why certain actions were or weren't taken by everyone involved (the campground, her husband, the mcdonalds workers, her brother etc), and i'm sure the media is only fueling the fire by putting out little snippets of conflicting info. But right now, no one has the complete story.
I think it a little morbid for us all to be discussion what 'probably' happened. None of us know.
Let the police do their job and figure this out, and let the families grieve in peace.
There is a new conference at 4pm on Channel 12. There might be more info then.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Otherme
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by twiceasnice
No it doesn't add up this is what I get from it:
9:30 they leave together (they are normal, campsite lady spoke to her and husband says she is in good health) he follows her on the road
10-10:30 - Mcdonalds (at this point she was normal according to employees)
Husband doesn't stop and continues. (time is approx because it is atthe beginning of the trip)
10:30- approx 1 - She was seen driving erratic on 17 and 87. Cutting people off and flashing headlights, driving in the grass.
1:00 - She pulls off after the Tappan Zee, calls her brother, Emma speaks to him (on the phone about 10 mintues). She is supposed to stay there but she leaves and leaves her phone.
1:15 - No incoming calls recieved from her cell phone
1:35 - Accident
1:42 - Brother is driving to Tarrytown and calls police (probably because she has answered her phone in 30 mintues).
- When contacted her husband was already home, trip takes approx 3 hours.
What doesn't add up is how the heck her blood level got to .19?
Was she REALLY drunk before Mcdonalds and no one noticed?
How many drinks does it take for that level?
EXACTLY what I was saying. HOW do you get THAT drunk in such little time AND be driving with 5 kids?
SO I found a police calculator for BAC (blood alcohol concentration)
I entered her as a weight of 140 lbs.
If she drank for 3 hours to get a a BAC of 0.19 she would have to drink 10 beers (or the equivalent).
"0.20 BAC: Feeling dazed/confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand/walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people have nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened."
I do not think a person who has this much alcohol in their body would go unnoticed.
That is ALOT of alcohol it drink in such LITTLE time. I don't believe it. The pot could still be in her system from awhile so you can't go by that.
Yeah I think she was plastered from the night before.
The rate it takes to accummulate that kind of level is ALOT of alcohol in short period of time or ALOT MORE alcohol over a long period of time. If she wasn't drinking in the car, then her BAC was greater then .19 at 9:30 a.m (it drops by .01 every 40 minutes) so it may have been more like .25 at that time. How can that go unnoticed? Someone is lying...
ABSOLUTELY someone is lying. If she was drinking the night before didn't someone see that? Even just her dh?
I think everyone is making an awful lot of assumptions and judgements based on not knowing all the facts..
This is a horrible tragedy, made even worse by knowing that she didn't have an accident caused by medical problems, but by willfully doing something irresponsible.
It's so easy for all of us to ask why certain actions were or weren't taken by everyone involved (the campground, her husband, the mcdonalds workers, her brother etc), and i'm sure the media is only fueling the fire by putting out little snippets of conflicting info. But right now, no one has the complete story.
I think it a little morbid for us all to be discussion what 'probably' happened. None of us know.
Let the police do their job and figure this out, and let the families grieve in peace.
Of course everyone is going to speculate about what happened. The facts that came to light today puts a total spin on how people initially reacted to this tragedy. No longer is this woman a victim that everyone felt compassion for. She's a murderer and unfortunately her family has been covering for her (which in my opinion was so unnecessary since the truth would be disclosed at some point anyway).
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by HeathKernandez
Just because this story broke out, we stop praying for the husband and the brother and that poor little boy? Shame on us!
absolutely not, my heart breaks even moreso for them now
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i am SICK SICK SICK over this
i have been so upset by this since it happened and now to know that she CAUSED it!!
TERRIBLE
i feel so horrible for those poor families, the parents of the girls and let's not forget the 3 men in the SUV who were also killed
JUST AWFUL!!!!!
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
something about this whole story doesnt add up....I wonder if someone slipped something into her drink at Mcdonalds?
I just cant understand how someone could get that drunk in a few hours.....
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
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Everyone that saw her said she was driving like a lunatic. If her DH was driving in his car near her, how come he didn't see this?
Something doesn't make sense
See, that is where the conflicting reports lie.
Originally (until today actually) they said that she and he left the campsite together but she went one way- to head home- and he went another to continue on a fishing trip elsewhere upstate.
Now I am hearing that he was following her, or was ahead of her...
Not sure which is accurate
I agree - there are definitely conflicting accounts about her husband. Once they clarify that, we would know a bit more info.
I think there is a LOT more to this story
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by Lisa
something about this whole story doesnt add up....I wonder if someone slipped something into her drink at Mcdonalds?
I just cant understand how someone could get that drunk in a few hours.....
I thought this as well...
But..
How much of something could be slipped into a drink to make it that high???
I wonder if they can test dad to see if he was doing drugs the night prior with mom.
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I thought (hoped) this story couldn't get worse then it already was This is so unforgivable. All those children, all those families.
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by twiceasnice
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by twiceasnice
No it doesn't add up this is what I get from it:
9:30 they leave together (they are normal, campsite lady spoke to her and husband says she is in good health) he follows her on the road
10-10:30 - Mcdonalds (at this point she was normal according to employees)
Husband doesn't stop and continues. (time is approx because it is atthe beginning of the trip)
10:30- approx 1 - She was seen driving erratic on 17 and 87. Cutting people off and flashing headlights, driving in the grass.
1:00 - She pulls off after the Tappan Zee, calls her brother, Emma speaks to him (on the phone about 10 mintues). She is supposed to stay there but she leaves and leaves her phone.
1:15 - No incoming calls recieved from her cell phone
1:35 - Accident
1:42 - Brother is driving to Tarrytown and calls police (probably because she has answered her phone in 30 mintues).
- When contacted her husband was already home, trip takes approx 3 hours.
What doesn't add up is how the heck her blood level got to .19?
Was she REALLY drunk before Mcdonalds and no one noticed?
How many drinks does it take for that level?
EXACTLY what I was saying. HOW do you get THAT drunk in such little time AND be driving with 5 kids?
SO I found a police calculator for BAC (blood alcohol concentration)
I entered her as a weight of 140 lbs.
If she drank for 3 hours to get a a BAC of 0.19 she would have to drink 10 beers (or the equivalent).
"0.20 BAC: Feeling dazed/confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand/walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people have nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened."
I do not think a person who has this much alcohol in their body would go unnoticed.
That is ALOT of alcohol it drink in such LITTLE time. I don't believe it. The pot could still be in her system from awhile so you can't go by that.
The equivalent of a beer is an ounce of alcohol - a big cup or two of something could bring her to a .19 BAC.
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Posted by carolinebn
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Posted by carolinebn
The little girls' mom must be dead inside. Imagine being married to your husband and HIS SISTER gets in a crash & kills ALL of your children. Then you find out she was drunk.
I think I would literally divorce him.
Why though???
I guess I could understand the friction it would cause a marriage but WHY is anyone to blame (right now, without knowing all the facts) besides the woman driving that car??
exactly - the friction. every time i looked at DH, I would see his sister. I think it would kill me. I wouldn't blame my husband, I would just need a change of scenery.
ITA - look at spouses who lose a child under situations where noone is to blame - they have a high divorce rate b/c of the stress. This stress in this marriage b/c of the situation is going to be very high. No matter how strong their marriage is, this is going to be a extremely stressful time. I agree with the PP who said that she would vomit if she realized she held a combined funeral with the person who killed her children.
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skew
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
qutoing from the parenting thread
Posted by BigB
I think what people are fogetting about is the family that are left behind. That husband has to live with the guilt that his wife killed thier nieces and nephews. A son will never know his mother and his final images are those of fear and death.
A brother who will never hold his children again. A mother who will never braid her daughter's hair.
We sit here and pass judgement on people we don't know and on a story that we don't know all of the pieces to.
I pray that we never have to feel the pain that these 3 families are feeling right now.
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IMO, the missing puzzle peices are irrelvant. the horrifying reality is that innocent lives were tragically lost as a result of this POS's actions.
my thoughts and prayers are and will continue to be with the 7 innocent victims, their family and friends.
Message edited 8/4/2009 4:25:03 PM.
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NS1976
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Re: Cross post - Toxicology reports for the Taconic Crash in
Not to be rude in any way at all but imo, the missing pieces are EXTREMELY relevant to everything. Think of the 3 men..their families. I am sure they want answers to the missing puzzle. I am sure people want to know if that father knew there was something up..if he saw her drink, if he smoked weed with her before they left or the night before..because then he should be somewhat held accountable as well. I think the missing pieces would tell us TONS. And I think it human nature to question..thats only my way of thinking though.
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