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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by maybemommy10
Serious question, for those who believe he was mental sane. What do you think caused him to do this?
I feel like a broken record. NO ONE thinks he was sane - there is NO doubt about his being incredibly sick and twisted. The only question for most of us in this thread is whether, aside from the alleged aspergers, his mother KNEW that there was something amiss or violent before the fact.
Also, the story about being committed by his mother was denied as false by the pastor whose son gave the interview.
I kind of disagree with your first statement. Yea he was twisted and sick but sick in what context? mentally, or sane but his actions were sick?
I am not a doctor so I dont know the classifications. But I generally believe there are evil people in this world. That know what they are doing, are capable of making good judgements or decisions in their life but are evil by nature. They choose to do sadistic and evil things. I dont believe all killers are mentally ill or insane or have some medical diagnosis.
I just think some ppl are insane, some are insane and can do evil things and some are just pure evil.
As far as this POS, I dont know what his deal was.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by maymama
i don't get why everyone is saying "mentally ill" and "mentally unstable?"
Did I miss something? Was there a confirmed diagnosis?
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by maybemommy10
Posted by maymama
i don't get why everyone is saying "mentally ill" and "mentally unstable?"
Did I miss something? Was there a confirmed diagnosis?
I think the consensus is because what he did , he is mentally ill. I dont necessarily agree.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by Sash
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Posted by maybemommy10
Serious question, for those who believe he was mental sane. What do you think caused him to do this?
I feel like a broken record. NO ONE thinks he was sane - there is NO doubt about his being incredibly sick and twisted. The only question for most of us in this thread is whether, aside from the alleged aspergers, his mother KNEW that there was something amiss or violent before the fact.
Also, the story about being committed by his mother was denied as false by the pastor whose son gave the interview.
I kind of disagree with your first statement. Yea he was twisted and sick but sick in context?
I am not a doctor so I dont know the classifications. But I generally believe there are evil people in this world. That know what they are doing, are capable of making good judgements or decisions in their life but are evil by nature. They choose to do sadistice and evil things. I dont believe all killers are mentally ill or insane or have some medical diagnosis.
I just think some ppl are insane, some are insane and can do evil things and some are just pure evil.
As far as this POS, I dont know what his deal was.
Sick and twisted as in it was a sick act. Just using the expression not making any diagnosis.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by PeasandCarrots
"Such a sick kid" based on what? What ACTUAL proof or evidence do we have. .
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by Jugglemom
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Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by maybemommy10
Serious question, for those who believe he was mental sane. What do you think caused him to do this?
I feel like a broken record. NO ONE thinks he was sane - there is NO doubt about his being incredibly sick and twisted. The only question for most of us in this thread is whether, aside from the alleged aspergers, his mother KNEW that there was something amiss or violent before the fact.
Also, the story about being committed by his mother was denied as false by the pastor whose son gave the interview.
I kind of disagree with your first statement. Yea he was twisted and sick but sick in context?
I am not a doctor so I dont know the classifications. But I generally believe there are evil people in this world. That know what they are doing, are capable of making good judgements or decisions in their life but are evil by nature. They choose to do sadistice and evil things. I dont believe all killers are mentally ill or insane or have some medical diagnosis.
I just think some ppl are insane, some are insane and can do evil things and some are just pure evil.
As far as this POS, I dont know what his deal was.
Sick and twisted as in it was a sick act. Just using the expression not making any diagnosis.
i didnt think you were making a diagnosis. And thats also why i asked what you meant by sick.
The rest of my reply was a general response to this thread that "I" believe a person can just be pure evil w/o being insane.
ETA: thats also why I edited my original quote to elaborate. I realized you responded before my update.
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imagin916
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Yes I do blame the mother. Having guns or any type of weapons in the house with a mentally unstable person living there is extremely irresponsible. Period.
There is already a law that prevents mentally unstable people from getting a permit, but there should be a law made that if you have someone with a diagnosed mental illness OR someone with a history of violence or a criminal record that it is illegal to have guns where they reside, even if the owner is sane and has a clean record.
I agree that it is very difficult nowadays to get someone treated and nearly impossible to get them commited, no matter how bad they are, unless they are in jail.
I have seen some seriously disturbed people, some of them children as young as 6 years old.
The kids that young who are seriously disturbed, like the ones that killed family pets and threatened parents/other kids or actually assaulted them, are beyond help IMO. They just have some sort of imbalance in the brain that no medication or therapy are going to fix. These kids are not abused, and in every case they have one parent with a history of severe mental illness. I have no doubt that these kids will grow up to murder. I would bet anything on it. In these cases, these kids should be placed as an inpatient and only released if they actually do make progress, which would be years, if ever. The same for adults.
That being said, the overwhelming majority of severely disturbed people I have seen are a danger to themself more than anyone else.
Finally, there are the very few, I can count on one hand how many I've seen in 10 years as a nurse, that I swear, mental illness is not their problem, I think they are possessed by the devil. It's really hard to explain. They are not hallucinating, they are fully able to answer all questions, make total sense, but when you look into their eyes, there is no soul there. They will kill without even a blink of an eye. They are calm. Cooperative even, most of the time. It sends chills to my bones.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
She PULLED him out of school to home school him, his own father and brother haven't spoken to him in years.....I think they knew.
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CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
ultimately I blame him...... because he committed the action
BUT, anyone who has guns in their house should have them locked up, with the key to unlock them hidden somewhere where no one else knows..... so yeah, I place some blame on her, not for being the mother, but for not properly storing such a dangerous item that anyone could have gone into her house taken and committed the shooting.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
I cannot wrap my head around people thinking this was a sane individual.
Certainly I cannot make a diagnosis as I am not a doctor nor do I know him but I think it is safe to say that anyone who kills 20 children and multiple adults including their mother is not a mentally sane person.
People do not wake up grab assault weapons and carry out execution style murders unless there is something mentally wrong with them or they are in combat.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by DiamondGirl
I cannot wrap my head around people thinking this was a sane individual.
Certainly I cannot make a diagnosis as I am not a doctor nor do I know him but I think it is safe to say that anyone who kills 20 children and multiple adults including their mother is not a mentally sane person.
People do not wake up grab assault weapons and carry out execution style murders unless there is something mentally wrong with them or they are in combat.
ITA. diagnosed illness or not. Its just not normal.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by 2BadSoSad
She PULLED him out of school to home school him, his own father and brother haven't spoken to him in years.....I think they knew.
I think this if true, is a VERY good indication, among others that he had some serious issues that were KNOWN.
I could be wrong, or totally opposite on this, but I feel like a child with an ASD is the LAST child you want to pull from school unless there is a GOOD reason. First off, school is the place he's going to get all of the services (unless they couldn't get sedrvices for him and that's why she felt she had to pull him), secondly, the right school will teach life skills and socialization which is really what a child with aspergers can and must learn. They need to learn how to relate to others and learn body language, etc etc. I think it would have to be one of 2 things to pull him 1 - He was getting o services at school and they were just ignoring him and he wasn't getting a good education or 2 - he had other serious issues. I think evenif I were a homeschool proponent, I'd have to think long and hard about pulling a kid with aspergers from school.
This is all bald speculation
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by Jugglemom
Posted by maybemommy10
Serious question, for those who believe he was mental sane. What do you think caused him to do this?
I feel like a broken record. NO ONE thinks he was sane - there is NO doubt about his being incredibly sick and twisted. The only question for most of us in this thread is whether, aside from the alleged aspergers, his mother KNEW that there was something amiss or violent before the fact.
Also, the story about being committed by his mother was denied as false by the pastor whose son gave the interview.
Thats why I am really done commenting. They cant actually comprehend that some us of are saying is:
The only question for most of us in this thread is whether, aside from the alleged aspergers, his mother KNEW that there was something amiss or violent before the fact.
Posters keep saying "He WAS..." and "The mother KNEW.." and "The mother suspected..."
All we are trying to say is there is no evidence that before this happened, the mom knew anything.
No evidence at all. So I can't blame the mother since we all have no idea what she knew, thought or suspected.
All his "symptoms" can be attributed to Asbergers. Loner, recluce. Does not play well with others. Home schooled. He might have been TORTURED at school for not being "normal", so she spared him the evil that children are and decided to home school him.
Very logical explination for home schooling.
I will leave with the last thought from Junglemom, once again that sums up what we are TRYING to say.
Geez! NO ONE is excusing him. He was CLEARLY a sick fcuk!
All that anyone is saying is the we are reserving our judgment on the MOTHER he shot until FACTS come out regarding what she ACTUALLY KNEW before these heinous crimes. That is it.
I don't feel the severity of this any less than anyone else and have sobbed uncontrollably for days. I am just trying to be rational before I curse anyone other than the murderer to hell.
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KarenK122
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CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
I really wish that everyone (a broad everyone - media included) would stop saying that the killer had a ASD. That is not a fact and is putting a bad light on those that have a ASD. There are many reasons and diagnoses that he could have had that would have given him services at school and beyond.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by KarenK122
I really wish that everyone (a broad everyone - media included) would stop saying that the killer had a ASD. That is not a fact and is putting a bad light on those that have a ASD. There are many reasons and diagnoses that he could have had that would have given him services at school and beyond.
Yesterday, my hairdresser said "Did you see him, the way he looks in those pictures with his head down? He looks crazy." This made me so angry because I have a child on the spectrum and so many of ASD kids hold their head down. I know this is just ignorance, but knowing that people feel this way and think its OK to say these things makes me so sad.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by Pumpkin1
Posted by KarenK122
I really wish that everyone (a broad everyone - media included) would stop saying that the killer had a ASD. That is not a fact and is putting a bad light on those that have a ASD. There are many reasons and diagnoses that he could have had that would have given him services at school and beyond.
Yesterday, my hairdresser said "Did you see him, the way he looks in those pictures with his head down? He looks crazy." This made me so angry because I have a child on the spectrum and so many of ASD kids hold their head down. I know this is just ignorance, but knowing that people feel this way and think its OK to say these things makes me so sad.
FWIW I made a comment on his photo saying he looked crazy. I'm no expert but I really don't think ASD or Autism is what he had. IDK maybe because I have a little cousin with ASD and a neighbor who is Autistic and the last thing I would consider them is dangerous. I was under the general impression that adults with ASD or Autism tend to be mild mannered and generally do not harm. In a sense they never loose their innocence so in my mind they are not capable of planning and doing something so evil. Maybe I'm living in la la land.
I really think this kid was psychotic.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by KarenK122
I really wish that everyone (a broad everyone - media included) would stop saying that the killer had a ASD. That is not a fact and is putting a bad light on those that have a ASD. There are many reasons and diagnoses that he could have had that would have given him services at school and beyond.
I thought that was the only confirmed thing we know about him?
I don't want anyone to think that it CAUSED hi to kill people because that's ridiculous, but I thought that was a fact.
I brought it up in light of him being pulled from school because I would think that a child in need of services is the LAST child you'd pull from school unless there are OTHER issues
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
As soon as I learned the guns were hers I found myself blaming her as well. I read that she was getting ready to have him committed involuntary he found out and felt betrayed. I also read she left him alone for three days came home that Thursday night. Why on earth would you leave him alone in that condition with guns in the house. I do find myself blaming the father as well. I just feel like he supplied money but wasn't really there for his son who needed to be looked at. There were two parents that should have been on top of him. It's a horrible tragedy all around.
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As soon as I learned the guns were hers I found myself blaming her as well. I read that she was getting ready to have him committed involuntary he found out and felt betrayed. I also read she left him alone for three days came home that Thursday night. Why on earth would you leave him alone in that condition with guns in the house. I do find myself blaming the father as well. I just feel like he supplied money but wasn't really there for his son who needed to be looked at. There were two parents that should have been on top of him. It's a horrible tragedy all around.
It's a good thing we are parents of the year and would never allow this to happen. It's a good thing that all of us that have kids that are "Off", or "reclusive" or "look crazy" have taken the appropriate actions by being there for them, getting the help they need because they look crazy, and keep nothing in the house. I mean a knife could kill someone, a ribbon could kill someone. It's a good thing we have padded houses. It's also good that our drinking buddies and friends of friends will tell the police we were "concerned" if this happens someday, or the person babysitting our kids now will rememebr them so vividly that they can tell the media how "off" they were. Man it's so good WE are so procative in just knowing something is wrong isn't it. Oh and for those of us divorced thank goodness our ex spouse isn't just sending money but being there 24/7 to raise them with us. We are all so lucky.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by adeline27
As soon as I learned the guns were hers I found myself blaming her as well. I read that she was getting ready to have him committed involuntary he found out and felt betrayed. I also read she left him alone for three days came home that Thursday night. Why on earth would you leave him alone in that condition with guns in the house. I do find myself blaming the father as well. I just feel like he supplied money but wasn't really there for his son who needed to be looked at. There were two parents that should have been on top of him. It's a horrible tragedy all around.
It's a good thing we are parents of the year and would never allow this to happen. It's a good thing that all of us that have kids that are "Off", or "reclusive" or "look crazy" have taken the appropriate actions by being there for them, getting the help they need because they look crazy, and keep nothing in the house. I mean a knife could kill someone, a ribbon could kill someone. It's a good thing we have padded houses. It's also good that our drinking buddies and friends of friends will tell the police we were "concerned" if this happens someday, or the person babysitting our kids now will rememebr them so vividly that they can tell the media how "off" they were. Man it's so good WE are so procative in just knowing something is wrong isn't it. Oh and for those of us divorced thank goodness our ex spouse isn't just sending money but being there 24/7 to raise them with us. We are all so lucky.
No one is saying they are perfect parents however, I can say with 100% GUARANTEE that if my child had issues that I was aware of, which she was, especially "if" she knew she would be committing him, I would not have kept a gun, let alone an ASSAULT rifle in my house especially without having it locked up. She had a responsibility to society to have those weapons locked away and she was careless with them. For the same reason any responsible gun owner who has children, locks them up in fear that the child can harm themselves or someone else. Regardless of if she thought her son was an ***** crazed murderer, I blame her just as much as him because she ultimately left the guns available to him and brought him to shooting ranges. She was irresponsible plain and simple and because of her and her sons actions, innocent people, and children lost their lives.
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Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by adeline27
As soon as I learned the guns were hers I found myself blaming her as well. I read that she was getting ready to have him committed involuntary he found out and felt betrayed. I also read she left him alone for three days came home that Thursday night. Why on earth would you leave him alone in that condition with guns in the house. I do find myself blaming the father as well. I just feel like he supplied money but wasn't really there for his son who needed to be looked at. There were two parents that should have been on top of him. It's a horrible tragedy all around.
It's a good thing we are parents of the year and would never allow this to happen. It's a good thing that all of us that have kids that are "Off", or "reclusive" or "look crazy" have taken the appropriate actions by being there for them, getting the help they need because they look crazy, and keep nothing in the house. I mean a knife could kill someone, a ribbon could kill someone. It's a good thing we have padded houses. It's also good that our drinking buddies and friends of friends will tell the police we were "concerned" if this happens someday, or the person babysitting our kids now will rememebr them so vividly that they can tell the media how "off" they were. Man it's so good WE are so procative in just knowing something is wrong isn't it. Oh and for those of us divorced thank goodness our ex spouse isn't just sending money but being there 24/7 to raise them with us. We are all so lucky.
I've never heard of anyone killing someone with a ribbon. Honestly, never.
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by adeline27
As soon as I learned the guns were hers I found myself blaming her as well. I read that she was getting ready to have him committed involuntary he found out and felt betrayed. I also read she left him alone for three days came home that Thursday night. Why on earth would you leave him alone in that condition with guns in the house. I do find myself blaming the father as well. I just feel like he supplied money but wasn't really there for his son who needed to be looked at. There were two parents that should have been on top of him. It's a horrible tragedy all around.
It's a good thing we are parents of the year and would never allow this to happen. It's a good thing that all of us that have kids that are "Off", or "reclusive" or "look crazy" have taken the appropriate actions by being there for them, getting the help they need because they look crazy, and keep nothing in the house. I mean a knife could kill someone, a ribbon could kill someone. It's a good thing we have padded houses. It's also good that our drinking buddies and friends of friends will tell the police we were "concerned" if this happens someday, or the person babysitting our kids now will rememebr them so vividly that they can tell the media how "off" they were. Man it's so good WE are so procative in just knowing something is wrong isn't it. Oh and for those of us divorced thank goodness our ex spouse isn't just sending money but being there 24/7 to raise them with us. We are all so lucky.
Are you seriously comparing a knife and ribbon to having unsecured, multiple, high-powered guns?
I don't see anyone on this thread claiming to be the perfect parent, and regardless whether your child is "off" or not, is it not common sense that you keep guns secured??
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by adeline27
As soon as I learned the guns were hers I found myself blaming her as well. I read that she was getting ready to have him committed involuntary he found out and felt betrayed. I also read she left him alone for three days came home that Thursday night. Why on earth would you leave him alone in that condition with guns in the house. I do find myself blaming the father as well. I just feel like he supplied money but wasn't really there for his son who needed to be looked at. There were two parents that should have been on top of him. It's a horrible tragedy all around.
It's a good thing we are parents of the year and would never allow this to happen. It's a good thing that all of us that have kids that are "Off", or "reclusive" or "look crazy" have taken the appropriate actions by being there for them, getting the help they need because they look crazy, and keep nothing in the house. I mean a knife could kill someone, a ribbon could kill someone. It's a good thing we have padded houses. It's also good that our drinking buddies and friends of friends will tell the police we were "concerned" if this happens someday, or the person babysitting our kids now will rememebr them so vividly that they can tell the media how "off" they were. Man it's so good WE are so procative in just knowing something is wrong isn't it. Oh and for those of us divorced thank goodness our ex spouse isn't just sending money but being there 24/7 to raise them with us. We are all so lucky.
I honestly don't get why you're so agitated. The fact is, when bad people do bad things people want to understand why. The FIRST logical place people look for answers is one's home life. People want to understand what kind of person does this. How does someone become a monster like this. What drives a person to do this. Hence, people look to the parents, the home life, the school life, etc. etc. etc. Everyone is just looking for answers. WHY would someone do this to innocent children and teachers??!!
Nobody thinks they are "perfect parents" or "parents of the year" but this horrible event begs the question WHY OH WHY would ANYONE have an arsenal in their house like this woman did???!!! If she even thought for ONE SECOND her kid was "off" or had issues (which clearly she did since she yanked him from school) why would you EVER have guns in your home??? WHY???? That is being a VERY NEGLIGENT parent and she does bear some of the blame.
I don't think it's wrong of anyone to look to the parents of this child and wonder where they went wrong. Did maybe her HER choices and HER lifestyle somehow contribute to this. The woman didn't DESERVE to be shot dead but to think that perhaps there wasn't something she could've done or that there wasn't something she could've picked up on as a mother LIVING with her son is a bit ignorant. It doesn't take a "perfect parent" to detect when something might be wrong with their child. I just find it SO incredibly hard to believe that this boy did NOT show one single solitary sign of there being something wrong. C'mon, really??? Really????? I don't buy it, sorry..........I just don't.
Someone, somewhere, in some capacity failed this boy. He's ultimately to blame of course as he acted on his own accord but something HAD to have happened with this boy along the line to bring him to this. Logical thinking, well adjusted, people just don't lose their $hit out of nowhere one day and take out 26 innocent people.
People are just looking for answers, that's all. It's human nature to look to the parents first. How can you not?
ETA - And I'm sorry but if you suspected ANYTHING to be wrong with your kid, even for ONE SECOND, the LAST thing you do is keep in your home is guns. You just don't. WHY take the risk????!!! And love of god, the woman didn't just have a handgun. Automatic weapons??? Really??!! WHY??!!!
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by adeline27
As soon as I learned the guns were hers I found myself blaming her as well. I read that she was getting ready to have him committed involuntary he found out and felt betrayed. I also read she left him alone for three days came home that Thursday night. Why on earth would you leave him alone in that condition with guns in the house. I do find myself blaming the father as well. I just feel like he supplied money but wasn't really there for his son who needed to be looked at. There were two parents that should have been on top of him. It's a horrible tragedy all around.
It's a good thing we are parents of the year and would never allow this to happen. It's a good thing that all of us that have kids that are "Off", or "reclusive" or "look crazy" have taken the appropriate actions by being there for them, getting the help they need because they look crazy, and keep nothing in the house. I mean a knife could kill someone, a ribbon could kill someone. It's a good thing we have padded houses. It's also good that our drinking buddies and friends of friends will tell the police we were "concerned" if this happens someday, or the person babysitting our kids now will rememebr them so vividly that they can tell the media how "off" they were. Man it's so good WE are so procative in just knowing something is wrong isn't it. Oh and for those of us divorced thank goodness our ex spouse isn't just sending money but being there 24/7 to raise them with us. We are all so lucky.
If your child needs help then yes as a parent it is your responsibility to ensure they receive it. Now this young man was 20, he was an adult, so perhaps you might feel getting him that help was out of his mothers control but he should not have access to guns, period.
Why would this woman have guns like this in her house in the first place never mind where her son, who the consensus is had "issues" whatever that might be, can access? It is fuckingg insane and anything to the contrary is insane also.
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| Posted 12/20/12 6:28 PM |
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maybemommy10
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Re: CT shooting..god I'm not looking to start drama..but
Posted by PeasandCarrots
Posted by adeline27
As soon as I learned the guns were hers I found myself blaming her as well. I read that she was getting ready to have him committed involuntary he found out and felt betrayed. I also read she left him alone for three days came home that Thursday night. Why on earth would you leave him alone in that condition with guns in the house. I do find myself blaming the father as well. I just feel like he supplied money but wasn't really there for his son who needed to be looked at. There were two parents that should have been on top of him. It's a horrible tragedy all around.
It's a good thing we are parents of the year and would never allow this to happen. It's a good thing that all of us that have kids that are "Off", or "reclusive" or "look crazy" have taken the appropriate actions by being there for them, getting the help they need because they look crazy, and keep nothing in the house. I mean a knife could kill someone, a ribbon could kill someone. It's a good thing we have padded houses. It's also good that our drinking buddies and friends of friends will tell the police we were "concerned" if this happens someday, or the person babysitting our kids now will rememebr them so vividly that they can tell the media how "off" they were. Man it's so good WE are so procative in just knowing something is wrong isn't it. Oh and for those of us divorced thank goodness our ex spouse isn't just sending money but being there 24/7 to raise them with us. We are all so lucky.
I don't think i am a perfect parent because I dont have AK47s in my house, i dont think i deserve a monument for not taking them to a gun range, and a certaintly do not expect a medal for taking care of my childs physical and mental needs. I don't think im even that special bc i KNOW what my child watches, who they spend time, where they will go to school and I wouldn't leave them in a room for hours playing video games, or surfing the net without supervision. and im not LUCKY bc my DH takes care of us financially. I find it sad that some mothers think these are some grandiose gestures. I am a mother. I try my best every day to be involved at every level.
You don't need a padded home to keep your kids safe. but it MAY be a goof idea to not leave a kid like that alone in a home full of guns ! and no one is killing anyone with a ribbon. You need to stop reaching, now you just sound SILLY.
Was not sure why you are so defensive, but i think i have a pretty good idea now that i read your last post.
As for all the PC %hit, give me a break the kid looked like a freak weirdo, and anyone who says they dont see that is LYING. people really need to GET REAL.
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