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NervousNell
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Ok, creeper.

Message edited 5/26/2020 7:31:21 PM.

Posted 5/26/20 7:31 PM
 
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Naturalmama
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?

Posted 5/26/20 7:43 PM
 

NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..

Member since 11/09

54921 total posts

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..being a mommy and being a wife!

Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .

Posted 5/26/20 7:45 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.

Posted 5/26/20 8:38 PM
 

NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..

Member since 11/09

54921 total posts

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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.




Life is so short. I can't imagine wanting to stay like this for longer. I'm not living. I'm existing. Every day is the same.
Imagine dying tomorrow and these were your last weeks and months?
And the ironic part is where she said to "get a life"
That's EXACTLY what we are trying to do.

Message edited 5/26/2020 8:47:49 PM.

Posted 5/26/20 8:45 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.




Life is so short. I can't imagine wanting to stay like this for longer. I'm not living. I'm existing. Every day is the same.
Imagine dying tomorrow and these were your last weeks and months?



I agree. This situation sucks, anyone trying to pretend otherwise is so full of it.

Posted 5/26/20 8:47 PM
 

seaside
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Life's going to suck a whole lot more once a bunch of people who refuse to get a covid vaccine and balk at wearing a mask insist on enjoying life and having normal experiences while a pandemic rages.

I wish, so much, that the virus would just disappear. I had a great life before this. But, assuming it doesn't just disappear, life is projected to suck at a whole new level that we haven't even seen yet.

And it will result in us all being ordered back inside for a LOT longer.

Posted 5/26/20 9:42 PM
 

Naturalmama
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Getting back to Normal

If the pandemic were still raging, Cuomo would not be reopening the state. He is the most cautious governor in the US. It was raging in March, it was raging in April. In our state, it is under control. There is no way Cuomo would be reopening if this thing were still spiraling out of control. I happily wear a mask, but I refuse to put a vaccine in my child that was rushed though in less than a year. Those scientists people love so much- several have said the first vaccine that comes out WILL NOT be the best one. They said no vaccine that is produced in less than a year will be as effective as a vaccine that takes years to be produced.
Want to judge people for not wearing a mask? Fair enough. But don't judge people for not putting a rushed vaccine into their bodies. Not everyone needs to get a vaccine to achieve herd immunity.
Sometimes I think people WANT there to be a catastrophic second wave. So they can tell us all "I told you so. If only you had stayed in your houses for 25 more years." Why is it ok for Asia & Europe to reopen, but people flip when the US wants to do the same- and NY of all places is doing it responsibly.

Message edited 5/26/2020 9:55:28 PM.

Posted 5/26/20 9:52 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by seaside

Life's going to suck a whole lot more once a bunch of people who refuse to get a covid vaccine and balk at wearing a mask insist on enjoying life and having normal experiences while a pandemic rages.

I wish, so much, that the virus would just disappear. I had a great life before this. But, assuming it doesn't just disappear, life is projected to suck at a whole new level that we haven't even seen yet.

And it will result in us all being ordered back inside for a LOT longer.



I disagree. There is no reason to believe it'll get monumentally worse or that we'll shut down again. The virus isn't going anywhere, most people won't take a rushed through unproven vaccine BUT despite that, life will have to go on. Things will get better, they already are little by little.

Posted 5/26/20 9:56 PM
 

Sash
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.




Life is so short. I can't imagine wanting to stay like this for longer. I'm not living. I'm existing. Every day is the same.
Imagine dying tomorrow and these were your last weeks and months?
And the ironic part is where she said to "get a life"
That's EXACTLY what we are trying to do.



Yes, life is too short. My aunt, who isn’t in the best of health, just had triple bypass surgery on her heart. She went in for her asthma and breathing, found out she needed surgery.

It’s heartbreaking to think if she didn’t go to the hospital to check on her breathing, she would’ve been dead. Without any of her family seeing her for the past two almost three months now.

Life is fukn short people! Idc what your stance is, know that is the truth!

Posted 5/26/20 10:37 PM
 

ChilisWife
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by seaside

Life's going to suck a whole lot more once a bunch of people who refuse to get a covid vaccine and balk at wearing a mask insist on enjoying life and having normal experiences while a pandemic rages.

I wish, so much, that the virus would just disappear. I had a great life before this. But, assuming it doesn't just disappear, life is projected to suck at a whole new level that we haven't even seen yet.

And it will result in us all being ordered back inside for a LOT longer.



I think the first vaccine will be useless and only serve to ease people’s minds, but not provide immunity. The “experts” already told us that Covid antibodies do not make you immune. I am hoping more for an effective treatment.

As for masks, other than N95 masks, I do not think that healthy people wearing masks is doing much of anything. But, I DO and WILL wear one in stores so that I dont get attacked by people.

And no matter how bad life gets, and it is pretty bad right now, nobody is ever going to stay in their homes for a longer period. They didn’t even do it this first time.

Posted 5/26/20 11:29 PM
 

Sash
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



It’s not about need versus wants anymore. Non essential stores are open in NJ and will start in NYC. People aren’t only allowed to go out if they need something. Regardless of whether you personally like it or disagree, they are starting to reopen stuff.

By all means live by that motto and stay inside, but don’t judge other people. They are going to help the economy and help those who need a job and are starving. People are starving and months / weeks away from being homeless.

Message edited 5/26/2020 11:53:38 PM.

Posted 5/26/20 11:50 PM
 

RainyDay
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Getting back to Normal

Some people NEED to work and they aren't and right now the NEED to work outweighs the NEED for everyone to stay home.

Posted 5/27/20 7:19 AM
 

NervousNell
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by RainyDay

Some people NEED to work and they aren't and right now the NEED to work outweighs the NEED for everyone to stay home.



Exactly. The amount of privledge is actually astounding.
I wonder if the tunes would be different if these hide from the world for another year people were not able to buy their instacart or Amazon fresh groceries that they so painstaking wipe down or if they couldn't afford to pay their mortgage on the house that they are so perfectly "sheltering " in while watching Netflix for months and having Zoom happy hours with the other Karens.

Message edited 5/27/2020 7:41:04 AM.

Posted 5/27/20 7:39 AM
 

chilltocam
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Getting back to Normal

What I find really disheartening, with so many posts on here and on FB, is that it seems like everyone has to be completely on one side or the other. There is no middle ground.

There are thousands of compelling reasons to open everything up, get back to work and school. They are real, valid reasons, far beyond "I miss going out to dinner."

But, there are just as many reasons to be concerned for what will happen when we do reopen. Although I am somewhat conflicted with what the right thing to do is, I probably fall more on the side of caution, keeping things shut down for longer, in the hopes that the increase in cases when we do reopen (because there will be an increase) will not be quite so bad.

But that does not mean I am floating around in a pool of privilege, nor am I a "Karen". I am concerned for what will happen to our way of life for a much longer period of time, if we don't do this right. And to me, going slower, keeping things closed for a bit longer if that means a better recovery (for our economy especially), in the long run, is the right choice. I get that there is real suffering out there. So, to do whatever I can, I have been volunteering at food banks and other places that have needed help. I am not burying my head in the sand.

No one knows what the right answer is. This is uncharted territory and I think "the powers that be" are working hard to strike the right balance - without knowing what will come with each new move that is made. This virus is too new for anyone to have all the answers. But a little kindness, caring and compassion for all mindsets would really go a long way

Message edited 5/27/2020 8:28:24 AM.

Posted 5/27/20 8:25 AM
 

NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..

Member since 11/09

54921 total posts

Name:
..being a mommy and being a wife!

Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by chilltocam

What I find really disheartening, with so many posts on here and on FB, is that it seems like everyone has to be completely on one side or the other. There is no middle ground.

There are thousands of compelling reasons to open everything up, get back to work and school. They are real, valid reasons, far beyond "I miss going out to dinner."

But, there are just as many reasons to be concerned for what will happen when we do reopen. Although I am somewhat conflicted with what the right thing to do is, I probably fall more on the side of caution, keeping things shut down for longer, in the hopes that the increase in cases when we do reopen (because there will be an increase) will not be quite so bad.

But that does not mean I am floating around in a pool of privilege, nor am I a "Karen". I am concerned for what will happen to our way of life for a much longer period of time, if we don't do this right. And to me, going slower, keeping things closed for a bit longer if that means a better recovery (for our economy especially), in the long run, is the right choice. I get that there is real suffering out there. So, to do whatever I can, I have been volunteering at food banks and other places that have needed help. I am not burying my head in the sand.

No one knows what the right answer is. This is uncharted territory and I think "the powers that be" are working hard to strike the right balance - without knowing what will come with each new move that is made. This virus is too new for anyone to have all the answers. But a little kindness, caring and compassion for all mindsets would really go a long way



You are right. People like you are not the ones I refer to when I speak of privilege.
Middle ground is middle ground.
Saying going to a store or going back to work is a want instead of a need is what reeks of privilege
Saying we have to stay in with the economy crashing around us until a magical vaccine comes out is unreasonable too.
It's the people who see no middle ground I was referring to.
And yes, kindness goes a long way. I would never say these things to anyone unless I was attacked for feeling the opposite way. Which this nasty poster has done for years now.
Telling someone to "get a life" when they are suffering doesn't sound like kindness to me.

Message edited 5/27/2020 8:37:04 AM.

Posted 5/27/20 8:36 AM
 

chilltocam
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by chilltocam

What I find really disheartening, with so many posts on here and on FB, is that it seems like everyone has to be completely on one side or the other. There is no middle ground.

There are thousands of compelling reasons to open everything up, get back to work and school. They are real, valid reasons, far beyond "I miss going out to dinner."

But, there are just as many reasons to be concerned for what will happen when we do reopen. Although I am somewhat conflicted with what the right thing to do is, I probably fall more on the side of caution, keeping things shut down for longer, in the hopes that the increase in cases when we do reopen (because there will be an increase) will not be quite so bad.

But that does not mean I am floating around in a pool of privilege, nor am I a "Karen". I am concerned for what will happen to our way of life for a much longer period of time, if we don't do this right. And to me, going slower, keeping things closed for a bit longer if that means a better recovery (for our economy especially), in the long run, is the right choice. I get that there is real suffering out there. So, to do whatever I can, I have been volunteering at food banks and other places that have needed help. I am not burying my head in the sand.

No one knows what the right answer is. This is uncharted territory and I think "the powers that be" are working hard to strike the right balance - without knowing what will come with each new move that is made. This virus is too new for anyone to have all the answers. But a little kindness, caring and compassion for all mindsets would really go a long way



And yes, kindness goes a long way. I would never say these things to anyone unless I was attacked for feeling the opposite way. Which this nasty poster has done for years now.
Telling someone to "get a life" when they are suffering doesn't sound like kindness to me.




I definitely wasn't directing my comments at you - I'm sorry if you took it that way. There has just been so much divisiveness and anger in so many posts, it's really sad. Yes, the kindness and understanding has to come from all "sides." Name calling and anger directed at the way someone feels is never going to be productive. We might not all agree with how to get "through" this, but we really do all want the same thing in the end.

Posted 5/27/20 8:49 AM
 

AlwaysCurious
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by Diane

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Not the stores in my area Chat Icon and I rarely see anyone without a mask even when they’re outside. Chat Icon




same here, except for my neighbors this past weekend.
It is none of my business, I am not going to be the mask or social distancing police.



This! I couldn’t care less what ppl are doing. They have their own reasons and it’s none of my business. Did u see the video of how a woman got kicked out of Shop Rite (I believe that was the supermarket) by the other customers for not wearing a mask? Disgusting!



From what I heard, the woman who was being yelled at had actually been told she should be wearing a mask by an older woman, who she then spit on. I don't know if I believe it, BUT, if you look at her cart - it's full. She had been shopping for at least a little while. She somehow managed to make it throughout the store without a mask up until that point? Did she spit on someone? Maybe not, but I believe she must have done something to incite such a reaction.

Posted 5/27/20 9:50 AM
 

seaside
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Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by chilltocam

What I find really disheartening, with so many posts on here and on FB, is that it seems like everyone has to be completely on one side or the other. There is no middle ground.

There are thousands of compelling reasons to open everything up, get back to work and school. They are real, valid reasons, far beyond "I miss going out to dinner."

But, there are just as many reasons to be concerned for what will happen when we do reopen. Although I am somewhat conflicted with what the right thing to do is, I probably fall more on the side of caution, keeping things shut down for longer, in the hopes that the increase in cases when we do reopen (because there will be an increase) will not be quite so bad.

But that does not mean I am floating around in a pool of privilege, nor am I a "Karen". I am concerned for what will happen to our way of life for a much longer period of time, if we don't do this right. And to me, going slower, keeping things closed for a bit longer if that means a better recovery (for our economy especially), in the long run, is the right choice. I get that there is real suffering out there. So, to do whatever I can, I have been volunteering at food banks and other places that have needed help. I am not burying my head in the sand.

No one knows what the right answer is. This is uncharted territory and I think "the powers that be" are working hard to strike the right balance - without knowing what will come with each new move that is made. This virus is too new for anyone to have all the answers. But a little kindness, caring and compassion for all mindsets would really go a long way



Couldn't agree more with all of this. I don't understand the rage and name-calling that has errupted. I also, like you, don't understand the "sides" thing. For me, there are no "sides." I miss my family's beautiful old life so much, and while we are trying to make things as good as possible until things return to normal, I want to see that happen asap. For me, that means listening to the leading scientists, doctors, and policy experts. When they order us in, I stay in. When they develop metrics, I want them followed because I know how bad things will be if we don't. When they advise requiring masks, I am astonished at people who flout the rules and heartlessly put others at risk. No sides. Just facts. I don't like these facts any more than anyone else. I appreciate front line and essential workers as much or more than just about anyone, and I understand that when people violate rules and recommendations, they harm those who must be out as much as they harm themselves.
This virus needs to just magically disappear, but until it does, I won't engage in any rationalization or foot-stamping. We are living through history, and I don't want to emerge from this on the wrong side of this.
Good to see like minded people out there.

Posted 5/27/20 10:46 AM
 

mrsrainbow
LIF Adult

Member since 1/17

1465 total posts

Name:

Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.




Life is so short. I can't imagine wanting to stay like this for longer. I'm not living. I'm existing. Every day is the same.
Imagine dying tomorrow and these were your last weeks and months?
And the ironic part is where she said to "get a life"
That's EXACTLY what we are trying to do.



Stop pretending to be a martyr. You're not.

Your complete lack of nuance and ability to have adult conversations about adult situation is pathetic. I'm not a creeper, I have no idea who you are. The only thing you put online is that you are unable to adapt. You are unable to cope. Clearly the long island bubble that you all live in affords you the privilege to be so completely unaware of how you present yourself. You cannot function because you can't go to Walmart? You can't adapt to not having the world revolve around you? You can't forge a new way of thinking during this time? Plenty of people are. Plenty of people are finding new ways to adapt and get the things they need. Life is not about malls and going shopping - you CAN order online, but you simply don't WANT to because your mental health is so at stake that you need to go to Walmart and Target? That's not your mental health. That's someone who is so fragile in their ability to function and cope with a changing landscape.

ETA: If these were my last months and days, I'd be super proud of what I've done and accomplished and the life I'm living. I'm really sorry you don't feel that way. I've found amazing ways to live a fulfilling and happy existence and give my kids great memories and experiences as best I can given this chaos. This won't last forever. It already isn't lasting forever. I'm sorry you're so shortsighted is all.

Message edited 5/27/2020 3:02:24 PM.

Posted 5/27/20 2:56 PM
 

NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..

Member since 11/09

54921 total posts

Name:
..being a mommy and being a wife!

Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.




Life is so short. I can't imagine wanting to stay like this for longer. I'm not living. I'm existing. Every day is the same.
Imagine dying tomorrow and these were your last weeks and months?
And the ironic part is where she said to "get a life"
That's EXACTLY what we are trying to do.



Stop pretending to be a martyr. You're not.

Your complete lack of nuance and ability to have adult conversations about adult situation is pathetic. I'm not a creeper, I have no idea who you are. The only thing you put online is that you are unable to adapt. You are unable to cope. Clearly the long island bubble that you all live in affords you the privilege to be so completely unaware of how you present yourself. You cannot function because you can't go to Walmart? You can't adapt to not having the world revolve around you? You can't forge a new way of thinking during this time? Plenty of people are. Plenty of people are finding new ways to adapt and get the things they need. Life is not about malls and going shopping - you CAN order online, but you simply don't WANT to because your mental health is so at stake that you need to go to Walmart and Target? That's not your mental health. That's someone who is so fragile in their ability to function and cope with a changing landscape.

ETA: If these were my last months and days, I'd be super proud of what I've done and accomplished and the life I'm living. I'm really sorry you don't feel that way. I've found amazing ways to live a fulfilling and happy existence and give my kids great memories and experiences as best I can given this chaos. This won't last forever. It already isn't lasting forever. I'm sorry you're so shortsighted is all.




I haven't even read your full response because quite hoenstly you sicken me.
I'm not the only person who finds you an asshole. Read the posts on here.
Going forward please don't respond to or address my posts.
Just scroll on, loser.
This will just be my standard reply to you:
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Message edited 5/27/2020 3:09:58 PM.

Posted 5/27/20 3:08 PM
 

mrsrainbow
LIF Adult

Member since 1/17

1465 total posts

Name:

Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.




Life is so short. I can't imagine wanting to stay like this for longer. I'm not living. I'm existing. Every day is the same.
Imagine dying tomorrow and these were your last weeks and months?
And the ironic part is where she said to "get a life"
That's EXACTLY what we are trying to do.



Stop pretending to be a martyr. You're not.

Your complete lack of nuance and ability to have adult conversations about adult situation is pathetic. I'm not a creeper, I have no idea who you are. The only thing you put online is that you are unable to adapt. You are unable to cope. Clearly the long island bubble that you all live in affords you the privilege to be so completely unaware of how you present yourself. You cannot function because you can't go to Walmart? You can't adapt to not having the world revolve around you? You can't forge a new way of thinking during this time? Plenty of people are. Plenty of people are finding new ways to adapt and get the things they need. Life is not about malls and going shopping - you CAN order online, but you simply don't WANT to because your mental health is so at stake that you need to go to Walmart and Target? That's not your mental health. That's someone who is so fragile in their ability to function and cope with a changing landscape.

ETA: If these were my last months and days, I'd be super proud of what I've done and accomplished and the life I'm living. I'm really sorry you don't feel that way. I've found amazing ways to live a fulfilling and happy existence and give my kids great memories and experiences as best I can given this chaos. This won't last forever. It already isn't lasting forever. I'm sorry you're so shortsighted is all.




I haven't even read your full response because quite hoenstly you sicken me.
I'm not the only person who finds you an asshole. Read the posts on here.
Going forward please don't respond to or address my posts.
Just scroll on, loser.
This will just be my standard reply to you:
IMAGE



The fact that you use a "mean girls" meme is literally case in point with you Chat Icon

at this point who cares if you respond? you literally have zero brain cells.

Message edited 5/27/2020 3:50:38 PM.

Posted 5/27/20 3:49 PM
 

Hofstra26
Love to Bake!

Member since 7/06

27915 total posts

Name:

Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.




Life is so short. I can't imagine wanting to stay like this for longer. I'm not living. I'm existing. Every day is the same.
Imagine dying tomorrow and these were your last weeks and months?
And the ironic part is where she said to "get a life"
That's EXACTLY what we are trying to do.



Stop pretending to be a martyr. You're not.

Your complete lack of nuance and ability to have adult conversations about adult situation is pathetic. I'm not a creeper, I have no idea who you are. The only thing you put online is that you are unable to adapt. You are unable to cope. Clearly the long island bubble that you all live in affords you the privilege to be so completely unaware of how you present yourself. You cannot function because you can't go to Walmart? You can't adapt to not having the world revolve around you? You can't forge a new way of thinking during this time? Plenty of people are. Plenty of people are finding new ways to adapt and get the things they need. Life is not about malls and going shopping - you CAN order online, but you simply don't WANT to because your mental health is so at stake that you need to go to Walmart and Target? That's not your mental health. That's someone who is so fragile in their ability to function and cope with a changing landscape.

ETA: If these were my last months and days, I'd be super proud of what I've done and accomplished and the life I'm living. I'm really sorry you don't feel that way. I've found amazing ways to live a fulfilling and happy existence and give my kids great memories and experiences as best I can given this chaos. This won't last forever. It already isn't lasting forever. I'm sorry you're so shortsighted is all.




I haven't even read your full response because quite hoenstly you sicken me.
I'm not the only person who finds you an asshole. Read the posts on here.
Going forward please don't respond to or address my posts.
Just scroll on, loser.
This will just be my standard reply to you:
IMAGE



The fact that you use a "mean girls" meme is literally case in point with you Chat Icon

at this point who cares if you respond? you literally have zero brain cells.



This from the b!tch who posts nothing but insults and is dismissive of everyone's opinion.

Nell has the right idea. Too bad LIF doesn't have a block feature.

Message edited 5/28/2020 7:29:01 AM.

Posted 5/27/20 4:03 PM
 

NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..

Member since 11/09

54921 total posts

Name:
..being a mommy and being a wife!

Re: Getting back to Normal

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Naturalmama

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by BargainMama

Yeah, well there are only two stores open around here to buy clothing Etc. Target and Walmart. Kids are growing, people need things other than food. So those two stores are going to be insanely crowded. Not everyone has weeks to wait for their stuff to order online.



Hence why they should open up other stores like now.
To take the burden off the 2 stores that ARE open and hence less crowds.
Ridiculous nonsense that makes zero sense



Or....shop online and lessen the burden on the people working in the stores



Yes we can do that and then why not just shut all the stores down permanently?. Who cares about people's jobs.
I know this is hard to believe but there actually are people who want to get back to work. Who want to reopen their small business so they can survive.
Crazy, I know.



What is with you and your dramatics?

If people NEED - as in, it's an absolute need versus a WANT - by all means.

I think society needs a lesson in needs versus wants.

Leave the stores open for the people who need it, find other places and things to do to "get back to normal," and get a life.



Why the need to be so nasty? Are we suppose to live the rest of our days only doing what we NEED to do? Never get enjoyment out of anything, ever again?



Because she likes to take any opportunity to go at me. Me personally. I have no idea who this person is but It's something personal with her. Creepy actually .



She's a constant sh!t stirrer and ALWAYS obnoxious. Just ignore her, she's not worth your energy.

I agree with the above, life isn't just about NEEDS. Life is about wants too and that is OK. Life is about enjoying everything that life has to offer from having a great meal out to taking a vacation to even getting a manicure. It's about engaging with others and being social. We're all allowed to want to enjoy our lives again.




Life is so short. I can't imagine wanting to stay like this for longer. I'm not living. I'm existing. Every day is the same.
Imagine dying tomorrow and these were your last weeks and months?
And the ironic part is where she said to "get a life"
That's EXACTLY what we are trying to do.



Stop pretending to be a martyr. You're not.

Your complete lack of nuance and ability to have adult conversations about adult situation is pathetic. I'm not a creeper, I have no idea who you are. The only thing you put online is that you are unable to adapt. You are unable to cope. Clearly the long island bubble that you all live in affords you the privilege to be so completely unaware of how you present yourself. You cannot function because you can't go to Walmart? You can't adapt to not having the world revolve around you? You can't forge a new way of thinking during this time? Plenty of people are. Plenty of people are finding new ways to adapt and get the things they need. Life is not about malls and going shopping - you CAN order online, but you simply don't WANT to because your mental health is so at stake that you need to go to Walmart and Target? That's not your mental health. That's someone who is so fragile in their ability to function and cope with a changing landscape.

ETA: If these were my last months and days, I'd be super proud of what I've done and accomplished and the life I'm living. I'm really sorry you don't feel that way. I've found amazing ways to live a fulfilling and happy existence and give my kids great memories and experiences as best I can given this chaos. This won't last forever. It already isn't lasting forever. I'm sorry you're so shortsighted is all.




I haven't even read your full response because quite hoenstly you sicken me.
I'm not the only person who finds you an asshole. Read the posts on here.
Going forward please don't respond to or address my posts.
Just scroll on, loser.
This will just be my standard reply to you:
IMAGE



The fact that you use a "mean girls" meme is literally case in point with you Chat Icon

at this point who cares if you respond? you literally have zero brain cells.



I knew it would piss you off. Hopefully you'll go away.
I'm sorry- I mean adapt to this brave new world in your basement hiding from the rona....




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Posted 5/27/20 4:20 PM
 

Sash
Peace

Member since 6/08

10312 total posts

Name:
fka LIW Smara

Re: Getting back to Normal

I don’t want to quote because of length, but, now I have the Mariah Carey “Obsessed” song in my head. I keep singing the chorus - “Why you so obsessed with me”.Chat Icon

Posted 5/27/20 4:31 PM
 
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