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JenniferEver
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by PaddysGirl
Posted by MandJZ
I actually agree with the majority here BUT, to play devil's advocate....
I get the assigned seat difference on a plane BUT what about the enclosed space/recirculated air thing? I totally understand that the world doesn't stop for someone with allergies but what about that person's right to use public transport without risking their own health?
Just thoughts that are coming up as I read responses. Thanks for all of the replies so far!
Maybe if it was that bad I would explain the situation to the person next to me and ask if they can not eat the snack until the next stop so I could switch cars. That' can't be more than a few minutes of "inconvenience" to the other person. No matter how hungry I was I woul dbe able to hold off so another person is safe.
I agree.
If I can solve the problem by moving, I would just move. If it's a real problem, I'd ask them to stop eating them but then move at the next stop so as to minimize that person's inconvenience.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
i would get up and move
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DumpsterBaby
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
I feel like this is such a simple answer. The person with the allergy should move.
If they ask the person with the nuts to put them away due to the allergy, the civilized thing would be to oblige.
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| Posted 1/8/13 12:49 PM |
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Cataverri
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
I say...get up and move, is not the mans fault she's allergic.
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| Posted 1/8/13 12:50 PM |
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Ltdentway99
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by CallaLily
To be honest, if it were me, I would get up and move.
Me too! i don't believe we can make demands on other people on subways. Plus, the person could be a nut.
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jennielee15
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by MandJZ
Does the situation change if it's an airplane? How do airplanes handle this, does anyone know?
I've been on JetBlue where they do not serve the nuts and they ask that noone consumes nuts during the flight. You just ahve to set them know when you board. No big deal. I have heard people complain about not getting their precious cashews, but hell if I was going to die I'd tell people to stop eating! The ventilation on plains isn't the best so it's more serious than a train!
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by Pray4Baby2010
hmm, if it was me with the nut allergy- I would move
but if I was the other person, I would definitely put them away if someone asked me
agree
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Kidsaplenty
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by evrythng4areason
Posted by MandJZ
Does the situation change if it's an airplane? How do airplanes handle this, does anyone know?
i would assume you would inform the airplane of this before hand, and perhaps they would have you switch seats with someone?
that being said, allergies stink, but you can't honestly expect everywhere in the world to be nut free or take your allergy into consideration..
i'd be annoyed if i had a pb sandwich on an airplane and i was told i couldn't eat it bc the person next to me had a nut allergy
They would inform everyone that it is a nut free flight and if snacks are served, they serve something else. They do accomodate you.
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Lillykat
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Sort of spin off but this question reminds me of a posr on another website I was reading researching for a trip.
Couple goes to habachi type restaurant...they are sat with a party of 6. Man in the party of 6 did tell the restaurant of his allergy. But he tells the couple sorry I have a severe shellfish allergy they will cook my food 1st but it is a severe allergy and I cannot be near any shellfish so you cannot order shellfish or I will have an attack. Couple felt uncomfortable ordering shellfish so ultimately they did not order what they truely wanted. While the restaurant knowing of the allergy maybe should have sat the group at their own table or better yet, a private room. They admitted that they felt they couldn't tell the man to jump off a briidge and order what they wanted, and they couldn't tell them they should move to their own table. The man told them he can't go the fish department of a grocery store without feeling like his throat was closing. Not sure if he told surrounding tables to not eat shellfish as well or not.
Couple didnt't ask to be moved. But later were upset that it happened. Wait was very long for the table...
I think I would quietly explain the situation to the restaurant and request a different table...but curios what others thought. People said they should be moved since it is their allergy and not the couple's problem. What do you think they should have done?
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Kidsaplenty
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by evrythng4areason
that being said, allergies stink, but you can't honestly expect everywhere in the world to be nut free or take your allergy into consideration..
i'd be annoyed if i had a pb sandwich on an airplane and i was told i couldn't eat it bc the person next to me had a nut allergy
ok, honestly, this is where people annoy me about it. It is a health issue, just like anything else. Would you be annoyed if you had to sit differently on a flight because a person with a wheelchair was seated next to you?
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BargainMama
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by evrythng4areason
Posted by MandJZ
Does the situation change if it's an airplane? How do airplanes handle this, does anyone know?
i'd be annoyed if i had a pb sandwich on an airplane and i was told i couldn't eat it bc the person next to me had a nut allergy
Really? That's actually sad.
I think it's just common courtesy in general to not pack peanut butter products to be eaten on an airplane, just because the allergy is so prevalent these days.
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EricaAlt
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by evrythng4areason
Posted by MandJZ
Does the situation change if it's an airplane? How do airplanes handle this, does anyone know?
i would assume you would inform the airplane of this before hand, and perhaps they would have you switch seats with someone?
that being said, allergies stink, but you can't honestly expect everywhere in the world to be nut free or take your allergy into consideration..
i'd be annoyed if i had a pb sandwich on an airplane and i was told i couldn't eat it bc the person next to me had a nut allergy
I actuLly was on a plane that they announced they are not serving any nuts bc a passenger on the plane is allergic. Didn't think anything of it. Not a big nut fan anyway so wouldn't of picked the, from the snack tray.
In the train situation I'd get up and move since its my allergy, but I would say something to the guy so doesn't look rude that I suddenly stood up like the guy smelled or something. Make him feel insecure. Just a little... "sorry, I have to move bc I have a nut allergy." If he said he'd put it away I'd thank him and if not bc he was hungry then I'd find another spot on the train.
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Paramount
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
On the subway?
You move. If I had an allergy I move.
You have NO idea if the person sitting next to you is an as$hole.
Its easier to move.
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HoneymoonBaby
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How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
I would just get up and move.
When I was pregnant with horrible morning sickness, it seemed that every person would decide to eat their filet o fish next to me or clip their nails in front of me. Both equally vomit inducing.
I moved.
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Eireann
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by Lillykat
Sort of spin off but this question reminds me of a posr on another website I was reading researching for a trip.
Couple goes to habachi type restaurant...they are sat with a party of 6. Man in the party of 6 did tell the restaurant of his allergy. But he tells the couple sorry I have a severe shellfish allergy they will cook my food 1st but it is a severe allergy and I cannot be near any shellfish so you cannot order shellfish or I will have an attack. Couple felt uncomfortable ordering shellfish so ultimately they did not order what they truely wanted. While the restaurant knowing of the allergy maybe should have sat the group at their own table or better yet, a private room. They admitted that they felt they couldn't tell the man to jump off a briidge and order what they wanted, and they couldn't tell them they should move to their own table. The man told them he can't go the fish department of a grocery store without feeling like his throat was closing. Not sure if he told surrounding tables to not eat shellfish as well or not.
Couple didnt't ask to be moved. But later were upset that it happened. Wait was very long for the table...
I think I would quietly explain the situation to the restaurant and request a different table...but curios what others thought. People said they should be moved since it is their allergy and not the couple's problem. What do you think they should have done?
I am not an allergy sufferer--although my son was just diagnosed with a severe peanut allergy along with a variety of other milder food allergies--so maybe I'm being unfair but... I think this guy was an idiot to go to a place where they cook communal food and expect others to change their orders. That would be like my son going into a Thai place as an adult and ask everyone with him not to order peanut based foods! Time for a little personal responsibility!!
As for the original question...I would get up and move, but I'd feel bad potentially insulting my seatmate, so I'd feel compelled to explain my situation--"It's not you, it's me..." 
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ChilisWife
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
The hibachi host should have told the couple the deal before seating them to give them the option.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
If I had the nut allergy, I would just move my seat. On crowded trains, that may be a hassle, but I'd rather do that than ask them.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by ChilisWife
The hibachi host should have told the couple the deal before seating them to give them the option.
ITA. I support places like schools doing all they can to accommodate children with allergies, because children HAVE to go to school and thus should be entitled to a safe allergen-free environment. However, if you have that severe of a shellfish allergy, and you STILL choose to go to a restaurant where people sit communally and food that includes shellfish is all cooked on the same surface.... the rest of the diners should not have to change their orders to accommodate you. Eating hibachi is not a civil right.
If I were severely allergic to bee stings, I wouldn't go on the tour where you learn how honey is made, kwim?
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HoneyBadger
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by Pray4Baby2010
hmm, if it was me with the nut allergy- I would move
but if I was the other person, I would definitely put them away if someone asked me
This.
I probably wouldn't want to cause a confrontation with the person next to me so I'd probably just get another seat.
However, I agree, if someone asked me to put them away because of a severe allergy I totally would.
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jambalady
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by computergirl
Posted by ChilisWife
The hibachi host should have told the couple the deal before seating them to give them the option.
ITA. I support places like schools doing all they can to accommodate children with allergies, because children HAVE to go to school and thus should be entitled to a safe allergen-free environment. However, if you have that severe of a shellfish allergy, and you STILL choose to go to a restaurant where people sit communally and food that includes shellfish is all cooked on the same surface.... the rest of the diners should not have to change their orders to accommodate you. Eating hibachi is not a civil right.
If I were severely allergic to bee stings, I wouldn't go on the tour where you learn how honey is made, kwim?
ITA.
I am severely allergic to cashews and pistachios. Many indian restaurants use either a cashew or pistachio paste in some of their recipes.
Indian food used to be one of my favorite foods before I discovered my allergy.
I now avoid Indian food because of cross contamination.
It sucks, but it is my issue, therefore, my responsibility. No matter how remote the possibility or if I tell them in advance.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by Eireann
Posted by Lillykat
*edited for space*
Couple goes to habachi type restaurant...they are sat with a party of 6. Man in the party of 6 did tell the restaurant of his allergy. But he tells the couple sorry I have a severe shellfish allergy they will cook my food 1st but it is a severe allergy and I cannot be near any shellfish so you cannot order shellfish or I will have an attack.
*edited for space*
I think this guy was an idiot to go to a place where they cook communal food and expect others to change their orders. That would be like my son going into a Thai place as an adult and ask everyone with him not to order peanut based foods! Time for a little personal responsibility!!
I agree with you. He is an idiot for expecting others to change their meal choice accommodate him.
Honestly, I also fault the couple. I would have notified the waitress that they need to move the guy or us. If I'm out to dinner at a place & opting for seafood, I think he's out of line to tell me I can't order it. Choosing something without nuts is different than eliminating an entire section of the menu. If he has a severe allergy, he should only go to places that don't serve seafood.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by PearlJamChick
Posted by JennZ
Person with allergy should move. On a plane, I dont even remember the last time I saw a bag of nuts being handed out.
Delta hands them out...the bags are about the size of an iPod shuffle, it's pathetic!
But they definitely still hand them out; had one on a flight just a couple weeks back.
So does Southwest.
as for the OP's scenario change...
In a plane your movement is much more restricted, some flights have assigned seats, some don't (southwest doesn't) but nonetheless, you're in a tight space that uses recycled air so I would say in that case I'd have let the airlines know about my allergy when I booked said flight and they would have then not served peanuts.
As another poster said, small inconvenience for me, but a huge life saver for the person allergic to the peanuts. I can live without my nano sized pack of peanuts.
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Lillykat
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
I am not an allergy sufferer--although my son was just diagnosed with a severe peanut allergy along with a variety of other milder food allergies--so maybe I'm being unfair but... I think this guy was an idiot to go to a place where they cook communal food and expect others to change their orders. That would be like my son going into a Thai place as an adult and ask everyone with him not to order peanut based foods! Time for a little personal responsibility!!
As for the original question...I would get up and move, but I'd feel bad potentially insulting my seatmate, so I'd feel compelled to explain my situation--"It's not you, it's me..."
 I wasn't going to state the obvious I purposefully don't go to those places with DD bc she has a shellfish allergy. I think they told the couple the DIL booked it and they were guests (this was at disney)...guess maybe the DIL didn't like him much to take him there knowing about his allergy. But I thought it was interesting they not only cooked his meal 1st but AT the table rather than in back. Those tables are pourous and the allergens do get into them surprised he let them cook on it rather than in the back.
I think it is hard to have any serious allergy. It must be very scary. I know it seems like peanut this or that restricting and accommodating those allergies but there are so many other allergies that are life threatening but not the same consideration. I know one girl who couldn't go to starbucks with feeling her throat close up say that people understand nut allergies can be life threatening but not believe or understand that milk has the same effect on her that someone with a severe nut allergy has. I can only imagine having a life threatening allergy to something aside from a top 8.
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Lillykat
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by ChilisWife
The hibachi host should have told the couple the deal before seating them to give them the option.
They think he told the restaurant he was allergic but I don't think (it seemed from the comments) the restaurant knew he told the couple they couldn't order shellfish.
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Re: How do YOU think this situation should be handled?
Posted by nrthshgrl
Posted by Eireann
Posted by Lillykat
*edited for space*
Couple goes to habachi type restaurant...they are sat with a party of 6. Man in the party of 6 did tell the restaurant of his allergy. But he tells the couple sorry I have a severe shellfish allergy they will cook my food 1st but it is a severe allergy and I cannot be near any shellfish so you cannot order shellfish or I will have an attack.
*edited for space*
I think this guy was an idiot to go to a place where they cook communal food and expect others to change their orders. That would be like my son going into a Thai place as an adult and ask everyone with him not to order peanut based foods! Time for a little personal responsibility!!
I agree with you. He is an idiot for expecting others to change their meal choice accommodate him.
Honestly, I also fault the couple. I would have notified the waitress that they need to move the guy or us. If I'm out to dinner at a place & opting for seafood, I think he's out of line to tell me I can't order it. Choosing something without nuts is different than eliminating an entire section of the menu. If he has a severe allergy, he should only go to places that don't serve seafood.
This.
Though I believe the dude with the allergy is way more to blame than anyone else.
How presumptuous is it to go to a restaurant where a mainstay is seafood when you have a severe seafood allergy and think it's totally ok to ask complete strangers to not order said food??
Wow.
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